60s Rolling Stones vs. 70s Rolling Stones: A Poll

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sorry. I'll stop there.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

70s. sorry Brian

just so much garbage in their 60s output - shitty covers, thin production, quantity over quality, etc.

I wish I could pick 1967-73 or so.

even though I think Aftermath & Beggars Banquet are total masterpieces, it's gotta be the 70s

shakes, you could be speaking of the '70s too, tbqh

Sticky Fingers
Exile on Main St.
Goats Head Soup
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll
Black and Blue
Some Girls

vs.

The Rolling Stones
12 X 5
The Rolling Stones No. 2
The Rolling Stones, Now!
Out of Our Heads
December's Children (And Everybody's)
Aftermath
Between the Buttons
Their Satanic Majesties Request
Beggars Banquet
Let It Bleed

= I don't think so omar, they put out almost twice as many albums in the 6 yrs they were active in the 60s, as opposed to the 6 albums they put out over 10 years in the 70s. And while they were always shameless trend-chasers, it seems like they got BETTER at being trend chasers in the 70s - whereas in the 60s some of the hats they tried on (American r&b, psychedelia) didn't fit so well. And there's just more filler in the 60s material, stuff they didn't need to do by the time they were "the biggest rock n roll band in the world" or whatever.

i was thinking more along the lines of "shitty covers, thin production" more than the quantity. but i'm all about the '60s stones for the valleys being a little less egregious than the ones in the '70s (though the '70s has my favorite album of theirs...)

only shitty cover I can think of in the 70s stuff is "You Got to Move" off Sticky Fingers...? Are there others I'm forgetting?

"Stop Breaking Down" on Exile is fairly awesome

shitty?!?!

I have to admit to loving (or at least enjoying to some degree) all of their 70s covers.

ain't too proud to beg, just my imagination, cherry oh baby, stop breaking down, you got ot move... am i forgetting anything?

lol totally forgot Just My Imagination was a cover

(and of course it is awesome)

you all are nuts--does the phrase "suckin in the seventies" ring a bell?

ehh you got to move and stop breaking down are both pretty low-down and dope imo, the rest i don't like

ehh you got to move and stop breaking down are both pretty low-down and dope imo, the rest i don't like

― A™ machine (sic) (omar little),

I concur--those are primo stones, as good as any jagger/richards that's for sure (this poll has me in a snit)

songs from the 60's I love (I love a lot from the 70's too):

Not Fade Away
I Just Want To make Love To You
Little By Little
Carol
Tell Me
Can I Get A Witness
Around and Around
Time Is On My Side
It's All Over Now
Everybody Needs Somebody To Love
What A Shame
Pain In My Heart
Heart of Stone
Mona (I Need You Baby)
Little Red Rooster
Surprise, Surprise
Mercy, Mercy
The Last Time
That's How Strong My Love Is
Good Times
I'm All Right
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Play With Fire
She Said Yeah
Your Better Move On
Get Off of My Cloud
Paint It Black
Stupid Girl
Under My Thumb
19th Nervous Breakdown
Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby...
Ruby Tuesday
Let's Spend The Night Together
Mother's Little Helper
She's A Rainbow
Sing This All Together (See What Happens)
Sympathy For The Devil
No Expectations
Jigsaw Puzzle
Street Fighting Man
Prodigal Son
Stray Cat Blues
Gimmie Shelter
Love In Vain
Country Honk
Live With Me
Let It Bleed
Midnight Rambler
You Got The Silver
Monkey Man
You Can't Always Get What You Want

So pretty much everything except "Gimme Shelter"?

I love "Gimme Shelter"

70s for sure. In the 60s, even at their nastiest there was still a feeling that they wanted to be liked. By Sticky Fingers it felt like they wanted to be hated and/or feared.

70s for sure. In the 60s, even at their nastiest there was still a feeling that they wanted to be liked. By Sticky Fingers it felt like they wanted to be hated and/or feared.

― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:44 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

what on earth are you talking about? during the sixties they were feared and reviled by the older generation (at least in america) and they were truly menacing and progressively more creepy as altamont hit. in the 1970s they were a corporation (this is simplified but essentially true) and their badassness was essentially cartoonish. want to try again?

I fear paranoid drug-fueld corporations a lot more than I fear sexed up young English dudes. want to try again?

The true battleground is between 1970-1976 and 1978-1986.

'60s by a friggin' mile

I wonder if this is a singles ppl vs. albums ppl divide in some ways - I am an albums dude and while I will rep hard for Beggars Banquet & Let It Bleed (not as big on Satanic Majesty's as most of the ppl I know are), the 70s make for better Stones albums imo. Especially Exile of course, and also Some Girls, both of which as albums tower over even the best of the sixties albums

1965:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AkA-7mmjiI

man I'll take the SNL performance of "Shattered" over that any freaking day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPKbCRkMlUM

I fear paranoid drug-fueled corporations a lot more than I fear sexed up young English dudes. want to try again?

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday

They weren't perceived as vaguely comic rock aristos from 1973-80 compared to the previous decade? Why don't YOU and your oh-so-clever screen name fuck off. They peaked musically through EOMS (duh), and the corp made great product after that but if you are talking about the image they projected in the two decades, they weren't more "badass" in the 1970s (which is what unperson's point seemed to be). But you must have really trembled at the fascist implications of their lear jet-arena back in the day...

iago g take a xanax or something, it's a fucking music discussion board & you're the dude who came w/the shitty "want to try again?" crap first & now you don't like how it tastes

I'm sure unperson thanks you

To live on this thread you must be tufftufftufftufftufftuffvtufftufftufftufftufftuff!

let me know when the meds kick in so we can get back to talking about the stones instead of boring hostile posturing iago 'k

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I somehow left this little number off my list. 1968:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MISflttoPxo

Went for 60s overall, but it was kind of hard because I consider 70s Rolling Stones generally quite OK, whereas 60s Rolling Stones was first not particularly good in 1963-65, then very good in 66-67, and then about as good as in the 70s in 1968-69.

I only like 70s stones

Should have bumped this thread earlier, boy. No answers for a week. 70s Stones for me. I have a weakness for the rock giants of the 70s. Just seems like an amazing time to be ruling the world in a rock band, having fun without the politics of the 60s, with which the Stones always had an uneasy relationship anyway. They were a good band for a more cynical and decadent time. Plus they did pretty well with disco.

And I agree with John re albums vs. singles; that's how it breaks down for me. I'm pretty cool with the two Hot Rocks sets as far as everything before Beggars. No way a 70s best-of would work.

60s

In my case it's not just albums vs. singles, it's also a more general thing which is that I'll take music recorded between 1970-75 over music recorded between 1964-69 pretty much every single time.

tough poll! I love pretty much everything these guys did in both time periods (and thereafter too). Arguments about toughness or badassedness don't convince me. Actually my recent favorite Stones period is what I called the "twee" period on this poll last summer, when they were far from tough in any conventional masculine sense. But their ability to roleplay served them well, because they wrote such good songs in that period that, if they'd just sold them to other bands (as they did on Immediate), then we wouldn't have "Sittin' On A Fence" or "Backstreet Girl".

I voted 60s because otherwise the best of the 60s albums and the best of the 70s albums are a toss for me, but the "twee" element of their sound really fascinates me and it's not something they ever really recovered after 1967 or so.

60s

can anyone recommend a good/definitive bio of the band? seems odd but I've never really read much about them

stephen davis's Old Gods Almost Dead was pretty great... also, though it only focuses on their '72 US tour, robert greenfield's STP is also fab.

it's not a full career bio but i can't imagine any book about the stones could capture the band better than:

http://www.amazon.com/True-Adventures-Rolling-Stones/dp/1556524005

the true adventures of the rolling stones by stanley booth.

it's only really the 69 tour that ended at altamont but it's maybe top 5 rock books ever IMO, at least ones that i've read

nah I think I want a full career retrospective, something written post-70s at the very earliest

I wish I could pick 1967-73 or so. - OTM. 70s in a walk, tho, still.

I've not heard all the albums from either period but my heart says '70s for this one. The '60s stuff is great - I mean you're talking about nearly everything from the London Years Singles Collection for starters - but the idea of the Stones in the '70s is so much more appealing. I think I just generally like those times in an artist's career where they've more or less definied themselves, most likely reached an artistic peak of some sort and you get that "What next?" period for a while.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

buncha philistines

Quite close though.

I just wanted to say I am really sorry unperson and Lee Dorrian...I was having a tough time that week and I don't know what happened, I am really embarrassed at lashing out like that.

this is a really hard question, mainly because i'm not massively familiar with either for some reason.

When's the Stones 90s vs. 00s poll? What's that like 2 studio albums vs. 1? Does this mean they should now put out one album every two decades? So new album in 2011?

The Stones made their best albums in the 70s, but their most iconic tunes and style was pretty much fully developed before the end of 69. I love Exile on Main Street, but I have to give it to the 60s.

Satisfaction
Paint It, Black
Let's Spend the Night Together
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Street Fighting Man
Honky Tonk Women
Gimme Shelter
Sympathy for the Devil
No Expectations