The which-mix problem… how will dance music compile it’s history?

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Thinking about the Shamen question, there was only one mix of ‘Pro-gen’ (Move any Mountains) that was any good. I knew it from clubs but I had to buy the 12" three times before I found the right one. This is true of so many dance records that I wonder how anyone approaching this period from scratch now, or even worse in 10 years time, is ever going to make an sense of it. It’s going to make Northern Soul seem as easy to comprehend as Glam Rock. I have a huge collection of 12" from that period but I haven’t bought any of the recent compilations. This is the first pop period that I knew well sort of from the inside and it’s interesting to see it’s history being written,

So.. hmm I suppose the question is, are the right mixes being picked?

Guy, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm not even sure the right records are being picked, never mind mixes.

ie. its very difficult to get hold of jonny l's hurt you so or eq's total xstacy. even on reissue. but these were not obscure records, they were played out at huge raves all through 92, were on every tape, massive anthems. but, reynoldsians aside, have been written out of history.

see also sonz of a loop da loop era, who went top 40. countless very popular records, but removed from history

gareth, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Simon Reynolds book - Energy Flash - is a good accountt of dance music history.

In ten years time - Simon can write Energy Flash part 2.

DJ Martian, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I once wistfully hoped that in the future the happy hardcore mixes of Imbruglia's 'Torn' and Spices 'Wannabe' WOULD GET PLAYED INSTEAD of the original - the official history of dance may wipe out certain acts but no doubt they'll figure in revivals to sell mo' records and column inches. I love the fact that you can't keep tabs on everything thats happening - and the patchy books on dance and hiphop released so far thrill me in that respect alone. I am listening to RAVE ANTHEMS at the mo - and that isn't definitive but neither was 'RetroTechnoDetroitDefinitive' as I remember.

Do you call that an ounce ?, Friday, 27 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't really think pop’s musical history is written in books (apologies to Reynolds fans, or Jon Savage, David Toop or Charlie Gillett fans for that matter). It is the re-release, the compilation album and the greatest hits packages that keep the history alive. That’s why I think dance is going to be a difficult genre – there were so many mixes.

I suspect that we’ll get the history told via Oakenfold and Rampling (which won’t be bad but very particular in its vision).

Guy, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah yes: T-Power's 'Mutant Jazz' or Ed Rush & co's 'The Mutant? Which one counts as classic? ;) Well, look at the liberating possibilities, everyone making up their own personal histories. However admirable Reynolds effort in its scope, there have been so many good/essential dance-records/remixes in the past years that they sort of overflow even the widest cast genealogy. You'll always find one "but what about DJ Pillhead's classic rmx of 'Eeeee said the Mouse'" argument. Not to mention all those brilliant records you've heard in a club and you can remember quite distinctly but never found on record.

Omar, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I haven't read the histories or bought the house compilations because I feel I know my version of the story. However in a broader sense this history, like all histories, won’t be made-up by everyone. It will be mediated. The process is inevitable and the only way to keep a particular view alive (my view for example) is to intervene pretty actively in the debate.

I suppose the sort of questions that interest me are whether the picture is getting over-simplified - has Fun Fun, Taffy & the whole Italian disco house 1987 phenomenon been remembered and if so do historians know which were the key mixes at the time (and does that matter)?

I do wonder how on earth I would approach the period if I was sixteen. Would it just be too complicated to bother with? Who would I trust? I feel that way about Northern soul – I simply don’t know where to begin with it, so I never have really, beyond the odd compilation. Dub has always been similarly complex and though I have at times got quite heavily submerged, I do feel at the mercy of the compilers (as does Reynolds if his best of 2000 is to be believed).

Guy, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But Guy everybody knows it's about Ben Liebrand's 10 minute scratch mix of Fun Fun's 'Happy Station'!

Omar, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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