articles cite Vampire Weekend's 'Contra' as the 12th independent album to earn a US number one on da billboard charts since soundscan started keeping track sometime around 1991..the only other two i saw mention of were Pearl Jam's 'Backspacer' and Paula Abdul's 'Spellbound' (on Virgin)
so what were the other nine ?
― tramp steamer, Monday, 25 January 2010 01:40 (sixteen years ago)
uh..Virgin?
― tza nicholas ii (The Reverend), Monday, 25 January 2010 01:42 (sixteen years ago)
prettty sure that's not an indie
Contra, the band's second album, sold close to 124,000 copies in its first week to debut at #1, besting runner-up Susan Boyle's I Dreamed a Dream by nearly 50,000 albums. Released on XL Recordings, Contra is the first independent album to debut at #1 since Pearl Jam's Backspacer bowed at the top of the charts back in September (that album was released on the band's own Monkeywrench label but sold exclusively through mega-retailer Target, independent stores and online). Contra is also the highest indie-rock debut since both the Shins and the Arcade Fire released albums — Wincing the Night Away and Neon Bible — that opened at #2 back in 2007. It's the first #1 album in XL's 20-year history, not to mention the label's highest debut since Thom Yorke's The Eraser bowed at #2 in 2006.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 January 2010 01:50 (sixteen years ago)
The first three Britney Spears records probably are being counted. Jive was technically an independently run label at the time.
― scottpl, Monday, 25 January 2010 01:52 (sixteen years ago)
Radiohead's In Rainbows..ATO is probably technically an indie too.
― scottpl, Monday, 25 January 2010 01:58 (sixteen years ago)
virgin was an indie when it released spellbound..it was bought by emi or someshit the following year..
― tramp steamer, Monday, 25 January 2010 02:43 (sixteen years ago)
How far back do you have to go for Columbia to be an indie.
― Mark, Monday, 25 January 2010 03:15 (sixteen years ago)
Virgin had been distributed by Atlantic, Columbia or WEA in the States since the late '70s though, right? So, probably depends how you define "indie."
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 January 2010 03:20 (sixteen years ago)
Jive's apparently also been distibuted by majors (Arista, then RCA, then Sony) since the '80s, fwiw.
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 January 2010 03:34 (sixteen years ago)
during the nsync/justin/britney years jive/zomba only had 20% minority stake by BMG... scottpl is on the right track with "technically" indie.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 January 2010 05:49 (sixteen years ago)
All those Nickelback albums were on Roadrunner
― awesome bapes from aflickr (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 January 2010 05:50 (sixteen years ago)
Major labels generally own their own distribution, thats a good way to tell the difference.
― Evan, Monday, 25 January 2010 05:53 (sixteen years ago)
And all those Creed albums were Wind-Up
― awesome bapes from aflickr (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 January 2010 05:55 (sixteen years ago)
Slipknot was Roadrunner too
― awesome bapes from aflickr (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 January 2010 05:56 (sixteen years ago)
sorry the real answer is so boring
― awesome bapes from aflickr (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 January 2010 05:57 (sixteen years ago)
still not really sure what the real answer is.. if there is one...wading through wikipedia turns up around 15 records since 1991:
paula abdul on pre-emi virginnickelback had two on roadrunner before it was bought by warner in 2006(slipknot didn't make #1 til 2008)creed had two albums on wind-up (still independent? but distributed by sony)jive gets seven to #1 with britney/n sync/backstreet boys before bmg buys in 2002pearl jam and radiohead round it out with their two self-released albums
maybe the two creed records are discounted ? and in rainbows is not technically on any label ? but licensed to (probably major) labels for physical release..i dont know
― tramp steamer, Monday, 25 January 2010 20:01 (sixteen years ago)
well here is another take
Indie Chart ToppersBy Jake BrownJanuary 25, 2010
Last week, when Vampire Weekend's sophomore effort was the top selling album in America, Billboard announced that Contra was "only the 12th independently distributed album to top the Billboard 200 chart since SoundScan began powering the list in May of 1991." Curious what the other eleven were? Here they are:
1991 - N.W.A. - "EFIL4ZAGGIN" (Ruthless/Priority)1992 - Ice Cube - "The Predator" (Priority)1994 - "The Lion King" (Walt Disney) 1995 - "Friday" soundtrack (Priority) 1995 - "Pocahontas" (Walt Disney) 1995 - Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - "E. 1999 Eternal" (Priority)1995 - Tha Dogg Pound - "Dogg Food" (Death Row/Priority)1997 - Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - "The Art of War" (Priority) 2007 - Eagles - "Long Road Out of Eden" (self released/Wal-Mart)2008 - Radiohead - "In Rainbows" (TBD/ATO/RED)2009 - Pearl Jam - "Backspacer" (self released/Target)2010 - Vampire Weekend - "Contra" (XL/ADA)
Not a lot of what you'd really think of as "indie," is there? That's because Billboard defines an independent album based on the title's distribution:
If an album is sold by an indie distributor (or, one of the major label's indie distribution arms), it is classified as an independent title and can chart on our Top Independent Albums tally. Classification is not based on a label's ownership, or if an act is signed to an independent label.In the mid-90s Priority Records was sold to EMI and Walt Disney Records switched to Universal Music Group Distribution, which led to a ten-year absence of indie releases at the top of the album chart until the Eagles came along and changed everything!
― tramp steamer, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:52 (sixteen years ago)
can we just say this was the first non-disney whiteboy band that wasn't on a major, and had never been on a major, to debut at #1
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:58 (sixteen years ago)
what a tragedy for independence
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 03:00 (sixteen years ago)