POLLVEMENT QUARANTINE THE POLL: SUMMER POLL (POLL VERSION)

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Gold Soundz 13
Summer Babe (Winter Version) 9
Grounded 8
Range Life 6
Trigger Cut / Wounded-Kite At :17 5
Shady Lane / J vs. S 5
Date w/ IKEA 4
Here 4
Box Elder 4
In The Mouth A Desert 4
Debris Slide 4
Unfair 3
Frontwards 3
Shoot The Singer (1 Sick Verse) 3
Stereo 3
Fight This Generation 2
Two States 2
Spit On A Stranger 1
Cut Your Hair 1
Mellow Jazz Docent 1
Heaven Is A Truck 0
Embassy Row 0
Unseen Power Of The Picket Fence 0


sofatruck, Monday, 25 January 2010 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

hats off to Whiney for the unsearchable title.

sofatruck, Monday, 25 January 2010 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

Every time I sit around I find I'm shocked.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 January 2010 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

"Grounded" by a lot.

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Monday, 25 January 2010 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

Frontwards or Shoot the Singer anyone? All the early ones are good. The rest is too played out and reminds me of Stinky Steve Solo.

Hinklepicker, Monday, 25 January 2010 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

Gold Soundz.

kshighway (ksh), Monday, 25 January 2010 23:11 (sixteen years ago)

impossible. either "here", "box elder", "summer babe", "frontwards" or "range life"

k3vin k., Monday, 25 January 2010 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

Summer Babe

kornrulez6969, Monday, 25 January 2010 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

In the mouth (of) a desert

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 25 January 2010 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

this was a song to be played at a mythic awards ceremony. the singer/emcee asks people to come on up and accept their prizes, but it becomes apparent that there is no reason to award anyone . The ceremony becomes a sort of self-examination, but the audience is too weak to raise their voices until a snake charmer takes the stage and gets a pathetic rage going. People mumble along, but no one gets very excited, so "the song" ignores the audience and goes where it wants until a puma escapes from a cage and mauls the singer/emcee. The song ends wtihout fanfare.

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 January 2010 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

Unfair!

Euler, Monday, 25 January 2010 23:22 (sixteen years ago)

voted two states

69, Monday, 25 January 2010 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

How to choose between Grounded and Shoot the Singer?

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Monday, 25 January 2010 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

Another vote for Grounded.

dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 00:43 (sixteen years ago)

ditto

iago g., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 00:52 (sixteen years ago)

Vote on this ends up being pretty random for me, a dozen I love pretty much equally.

Mark, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:10 (sixteen years ago)

Box Elder. Could have been many others though.

sofatruck, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

this band sucks

awesome bapes from aflickr (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

I'M LEARNING TO TROLL

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

tube steaks! we want tube steaks

dmr, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:17 (sixteen years ago)

voted for debris slide

dmr, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:17 (sixteen years ago)

had to get the fuck out of this town

and i did!

tube socks and a box of krispy kreme (los blue jeans), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 04:20 (sixteen years ago)

Easy, "Box Elder". I mean, "Two States". Wait, "Cut Your Hair". No, its definitely "Box Elder". Unless its "Gold Soundz". Nope, "Box Elder". Yeah, fucking "Box Elder".

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 04:22 (sixteen years ago)

How is there no "Major Leagues" on this??

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 04:57 (sixteen years ago)

there's v little terror twilight at all, if you noticed. idk there's still the possibility that'll be reissued so

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:32 (sixteen years ago)

box elder

iatee, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:50 (sixteen years ago)

How is there no We Dance or Fillmore Jive?

26 Mixes Focaccia (Stevie D), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:52 (sixteen years ago)

yeah we dance not being there is prob my biggest gripe

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:53 (sixteen years ago)

frontwards.

Joint Custody (ian), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 06:38 (sixteen years ago)

"Mouth of a Desert", "Here" a close second.

All this reunion talk has made me pull out my Pavement records that I haven't listened to in years. Its like Im 17 again. I still think 'Slanted' is my favorite. Maybe cos it was my first.

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 07:36 (sixteen years ago)

it has a nice ring when you laugh
at the low life opinions..

no stop breathin, at&t, give it a day?

i like the song 'unfair' a lot, but whenever i see the title the first thing i think of is this song instead (2:35)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppYMKMuDp58

that's what i call taxation without representation.. and that's NOT FAIR

kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 08:45 (sixteen years ago)

where is zurich is stained? silence kit? elevate me later?

voted trigger cut

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 09:52 (sixteen years ago)

went with shoot the singer cause its got all the classic elements of a great pavement song: heavy subliminal fuzz bass, charmingly askew clean guitar melodies plucked and interlaced with bend-y guitar distortion, affecting lyrics that make you believe some real feeling is being paid respect event though they don't make sense, ba-ba-da-da-dat-da-da/duh-duh-duh-dah..., and distinct and propulsive gary young drums. all of this yet still isn't really another pavement song like it.

blud, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 15:13 (sixteen years ago)

shoot the singer duh

ciderpress, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:25 (sixteen years ago)

I'll probably be the only vote for this but "Date With Ikea" solely for nostalgic purposes. It may be "Frontwards" though. This is hard.

jennaversicolor, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:07 (sixteen years ago)

i could vote for any of these ...

Gold Soundz
Frontwards
Here
Grounded
Summer Babe (Winter Version)
Range Life
Shoot The Singer (1 Sick Verse)

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 7 March 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

poll on to me tightly as if i knew the poll

Garden of "Eden" (get bent), Sunday, 7 March 2010 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

could vote for up to 10 of these so am going with the one that first really illuminated for me the greatness of Pavement and that is "Trigger Cut." It is one notch more complicated than the (still great!) "Box Elder," "Summer Babe," "Debris Slide" and thus paves the way for everything that follows.

Like "absolutely no scrubs" I voted "Trigger Cut" but might have voted "Silence Kit" were it on here.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 7 March 2010 01:07 (fifteen years ago)

this band sucks

― awesome bapes from aflickr (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 25, 2010 9:03 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ feeling this

voted for "Stereo" because, as I said on another thread recently, that song and "Cut Yr Hair" made me think maybe I liked Pavement as a band and it took me buying all 5 albums to realize that no, I really don't, just a few songs

some dude, Sunday, 7 March 2010 01:39 (fifteen years ago)

Probably Debris Slide, and I'm still not sure that they really needed to exist post-Perfect Sound Forever...

dlp9001, Sunday, 7 March 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

How is there no "Major Leagues" on this??

Seriously. Protest vote for Major Leagues here.

President Keyes, Sunday, 7 March 2010 02:05 (fifteen years ago)

why is "Heaven is a Truck" on here

abanana, Sunday, 7 March 2010 02:28 (fifteen years ago)

^^ needed to be asked

ksh, Sunday, 7 March 2010 02:30 (fifteen years ago)

love pavement, hate pavement threads

Garden of "Eden" (get bent), Sunday, 7 March 2010 02:33 (fifteen years ago)

why is "Heaven is a Truck" on here

Because it's way better than "Gold Soundz" and "Range Life."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 7 March 2010 02:41 (fifteen years ago)

all three are pretty weak tracks. crooked rain is not a great record imo.

Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 7 March 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)

RONGITY RONG RONG--just listened to it today and only skipped Newark Wilder

Mr. Que, Sunday, 7 March 2010 03:31 (fifteen years ago)

went with SHOOT THE SINGER

Mr. Que, Sunday, 7 March 2010 03:34 (fifteen years ago)

Specifically "J vs S" but it relies on "Shady Lane" to trample its swathe

Guess What?? I am not a Robert (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 March 2010 03:37 (fifteen years ago)

first album is all SM except for Two States--pretty sure SS wrote that one

Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe Spiral is upset about this part?

This compilation exists mainly to get an entry-level Pavement product on the market to coincide with their reunion tour

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 8 March 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

it's totally a coincidence that this comp is being released right now, I'm sure.

tylerw, Monday, 8 March 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

Perpetua:

I’m very proud of this piece, but apparently Spiral Stairs hates it/me. I suspect that maybe this has more to do with my negative review of his most recent solo album, which would be pretty understandable.

There's a bit more.

called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

we can only hope and pray this bitter feud will end without bloodshed.

tylerw, Monday, 8 March 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3361137728_ae23b810e6_b.jpg

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/2082439104_2ac12e6c53_b.jpg

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/58/186370762_2e5890a323_b.jpg

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/224923175_087ed18339_o.jpg

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/76/186464248_f0d12bb8fd_o.jpg

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/424204257_46fa8ef349_b.jpg

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

do you have a specific beef with this guy? he seems fairly harmless to me.

tylerw, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

that's how he gets you

aarrissi-a-roni, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

you know what this comp needs?

I'm
on a Raft
Can't turn back

Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

can someone scarf one of those pics please

how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

I always assume bands write collectively (Pavement, New Order, to name two) until solo albums prove me wrong.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

i remember assuming Spiral was the lead guitarist in the band until I saw them play live ...

tylerw, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

he's the andrew ridgeley of pavement

aarrissi-a-roni, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

i was always a little more charitable and assigned him John Oats status, but you're probably right.

king willie style (will), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

but Joan Oates wrote songs and sang!

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

good songs, that is

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

Joan lol

Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i was probably being too charitable. though i love at least 3 SS songs as much as any of SM's!

king willie style (will), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

& his 1st solo disc was a 6/10 imo. doubt I'd rate the last SM/Jicks I bought any higher than that.

king willie style (will), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

I think of SS as more like the Bob Stinson to SM's Paul Westerberg. Westerberg (like SM) had the obvious songwriting talent, but Stinson (like SM) added an ineffable secret sauce to the group work that caused it to outshine the later solo work of the main songwriter.

o. nate, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

Date w/ IKEA 4

fuk ally'all imo

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

I don't wanna taste Spiral Stairs' secret sauce.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

I think I mixed up by SS and SM in there, but anyway.

o. nate, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

hahah! i was ssurprised at that, too (wasn't me btw) and i love at least 3 SS songs as much as any of SM's is probably a bit of an overstatement.

xxpost

king willie style (will), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno, i just never really felt like Spiral was much of a musical presence on Pavement albums on things other than his own songs. Not like he had a really recognizable rhythm guitar style, or sang backup vocals or anything. Not saying that he didn't have an influence on the band's sound, just that it's not readily apparent.

tylerw, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

he's the bez of pavement

aarrissi-a-roni, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

yeah you can tell a Bob Stinson solo the moment it starts.

Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

if SS soloed in the woods, would anyone care?

Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.fonts.com/NR/rdonlyres/1EB673FF-E2F1-441C-9EDC-7522AC65D4DB/0/Perpetua.gif

am0n, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

coolin' by sound and winner of the... are pretty good spiral songs. also, who's that fat guy?

SHORTS? seriously? fuck off. (ojo), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

gary young

Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

xpss spiral stairs certainly did something to keep sm from doing his prog guitar shtick, so yeah i'd say that's a pretty stupid statement to anyone who's even remotely been in a band

sonderangerbot, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

I saw Pavement in 1991-1997 *gulp* at least two dozen times (maybe more?) and my most frequent memory of SS was him asking the sound guy to turn down his guitar at nearly every show (which wasn't very audible to begin with).

dude seems mellow, stable, chill compared to most of the other guys. think he handled all the biz side of the band which was probably pretty helpful. also pretty sure he talked everyone into doing lollapalooza which set them up financially for realsies.

that said if you're big on their pre-matador career his playing is ALL over those singles/EPs... once slanted was visualized was where he got marginalized imo. his best song is the b-side "coolin by sound" (XPOST!)

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

Spiral Stairs' guitar is as proficient and colorless as Westerburg's immediately post-Tim.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not saying SS was a great or distinctive guitarist, just that somehow having him in the band brought out something different in SM maybe as a songwriter/performer. Could be due to shared history or knowledge of the other's tastes and wanting to do something they'd think was cool. I don't know. It could be just that SM was younger then and in a more interesting phase of his development as a musician.

o. nate, Monday, 8 March 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 8,810 for spiral stairs secret sauce. (0.14 seconds)

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

if people frequenly attribute 'all' of a band's songwriting to the frontman even when the bulk of their publishing credits indicate otherwise, isn't it fair to say that the band probably knows better than the listener what the actual distribution of labor was?

Krusty Burgerizer (some dude), Monday, 8 March 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Really, the U2-REM-New Order approach is the most democratic and, in the best sense, confusing.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

i just assumed the ones SM sang were his, that he wrote all by his lonesome and SS, same thing. after Slanted and Enchanted they didn't seem like the kind of band that collaborated for whatever reason.

Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

didn't they all love in different states by the time crooked rain, crooked rain came together?

SHORTS? seriously? fuck off. (ojo), Monday, 8 March 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

they were sailors, with a woman and greyhound in every port.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

yeah they were scattered around the US and did the album in NYC

Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

didn't they all love in different states by the time crooked rain, crooked rain came together?

― SHORTS? seriously? fuck off. (ojo), Monday, March 8, 2010 12:32 PM (2 minutes ago)

they never lived in the same state fwiw.

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 March 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

For those interested in what a more Spiral-centric S+E would sound like, I dare you to make it all the way through out-take "Nothing Ever Happens", which was thankfully edited down to an instrumental 17 seconds of Malkmus Oberheim squiggle and tacked on to the end of Trigger Cut as "Wounded Kite".

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:32 (fifteen years ago)

That album cover is awesome. Bumping the 'actual good album covers' thread immediatly.

Moka, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 05:17 (fifteen years ago)


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