POLLVEMENT QUARANTINE THE POLL: SUMMER POLL (POLL VERSION)

hats off to Whiney for the unsearchable title.

Every time I sit around I find I'm shocked.

"Grounded" by a lot.

Frontwards or Shoot the Singer anyone? All the early ones are good. The rest is too played out and reminds me of Stinky Steve Solo.

Gold Soundz.

impossible. either "here", "box elder", "summer babe", "frontwards" or "range life"

Summer Babe

In the mouth (of) a desert

this was a song to be played at a mythic awards ceremony. the singer/emcee asks people to come on up and accept their prizes, but it becomes apparent that there is no reason to award anyone . The ceremony becomes a sort of self-examination, but the audience is too weak to raise their voices until a snake charmer takes the stage and gets a pathetic rage going. People mumble along, but no one gets very excited, so "the song" ignores the audience and goes where it wants until a puma escapes from a cage and mauls the singer/emcee. The song ends wtihout fanfare.

Unfair!

voted two states

How to choose between Grounded and Shoot the Singer?

Another vote for Grounded.

ditto

Vote on this ends up being pretty random for me, a dozen I love pretty much equally.

Box Elder. Could have been many others though.

this band sucks

I'M LEARNING TO TROLL

tube steaks! we want tube steaks

voted for debris slide

had to get the fuck out of this town

and i did!

Easy, "Box Elder". I mean, "Two States". Wait, "Cut Your Hair". No, its definitely "Box Elder". Unless its "Gold Soundz". Nope, "Box Elder". Yeah, fucking "Box Elder".

How is there no "Major Leagues" on this??

there's v little terror twilight at all, if you noticed. idk there's still the possibility that'll be reissued so

box elder

How is there no We Dance or Fillmore Jive?

yeah we dance not being there is prob my biggest gripe

frontwards.

"Mouth of a Desert", "Here" a close second.

All this reunion talk has made me pull out my Pavement records that I haven't listened to in years. Its like Im 17 again. I still think 'Slanted' is my favorite. Maybe cos it was my first.

it has a nice ring when you laugh
at the low life opinions..

no stop breathin, at&t, give it a day?

i like the song 'unfair' a lot, but whenever i see the title the first thing i think of is this song instead (2:35)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppYMKMuDp58

that's what i call taxation without representation.. and that's NOT FAIR

where is zurich is stained? silence kit? elevate me later?

voted trigger cut

went with shoot the singer cause its got all the classic elements of a great pavement song: heavy subliminal fuzz bass, charmingly askew clean guitar melodies plucked and interlaced with bend-y guitar distortion, affecting lyrics that make you believe some real feeling is being paid respect event though they don't make sense, ba-ba-da-da-dat-da-da/duh-duh-duh-dah..., and distinct and propulsive gary young drums. all of this yet still isn't really another pavement song like it.

shoot the singer duh

I'll probably be the only vote for this but "Date With Ikea" solely for nostalgic purposes. It may be "Frontwards" though. This is hard.

i could vote for any of these ...

Gold Soundz
Frontwards
Here
Grounded
Summer Babe (Winter Version)
Range Life
Shoot The Singer (1 Sick Verse)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

poll on to me tightly as if i knew the poll

could vote for up to 10 of these so am going with the one that first really illuminated for me the greatness of Pavement and that is "Trigger Cut." It is one notch more complicated than the (still great!) "Box Elder," "Summer Babe," "Debris Slide" and thus paves the way for everything that follows.

Like "absolutely no scrubs" I voted "Trigger Cut" but might have voted "Silence Kit" were it on here.

this band sucks

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^^ feeling this

voted for "Stereo" because, as I said on another thread recently, that song and "Cut Yr Hair" made me think maybe I liked Pavement as a band and it took me buying all 5 albums to realize that no, I really don't, just a few songs

Probably Debris Slide, and I'm still not sure that they really needed to exist post-Perfect Sound Forever...

How is there no "Major Leagues" on this??

Seriously. Protest vote for Major Leagues here.

why is "Heaven is a Truck" on here

^^ needed to be asked

love pavement, hate pavement threads

why is "Heaven is a Truck" on here

Because it's way better than "Gold Soundz" and "Range Life."

all three are pretty weak tracks. crooked rain is not a great record imo.

RONGITY RONG RONG--just listened to it today and only skipped Newark Wilder

went with SHOOT THE SINGER

Specifically "J vs S" but it relies on "Shady Lane" to trample its swathe

first album is all SM except for Two States--pretty sure SS wrote that one

Maybe Spiral is upset about this part?

This compilation exists mainly to get an entry-level Pavement product on the market to coincide with their reunion tour

it's totally a coincidence that this comp is being released right now, I'm sure.

Perpetua:

I’m very proud of this piece, but apparently Spiral Stairs hates it/me. I suspect that maybe this has more to do with my negative review of his most recent solo album, which would be pretty understandable.

There's a bit more.

we can only hope and pray this bitter feud will end without bloodshed.

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do you have a specific beef with this guy? he seems fairly harmless to me.

that's how he gets you

you know what this comp needs?

I'm
on a Raft
Can't turn back

can someone scarf one of those pics please

I always assume bands write collectively (Pavement, New Order, to name two) until solo albums prove me wrong.

i remember assuming Spiral was the lead guitarist in the band until I saw them play live ...

he's the andrew ridgeley of pavement

i was always a little more charitable and assigned him John Oats status, but you're probably right.

but Joan Oates wrote songs and sang!

good songs, that is

Joan lol

yeah, i was probably being too charitable. though i love at least 3 SS songs as much as any of SM's!

& his 1st solo disc was a 6/10 imo. doubt I'd rate the last SM/Jicks I bought any higher than that.

I think of SS as more like the Bob Stinson to SM's Paul Westerberg. Westerberg (like SM) had the obvious songwriting talent, but Stinson (like SM) added an ineffable secret sauce to the group work that caused it to outshine the later solo work of the main songwriter.

Date w/ IKEA 4

fuk ally'all imo

I don't wanna taste Spiral Stairs' secret sauce.

I think I mixed up by SS and SM in there, but anyway.

hahah! i was ssurprised at that, too (wasn't me btw) and i love at least 3 SS songs as much as any of SM's is probably a bit of an overstatement.

xxpost

i dunno, i just never really felt like Spiral was much of a musical presence on Pavement albums on things other than his own songs. Not like he had a really recognizable rhythm guitar style, or sang backup vocals or anything. Not saying that he didn't have an influence on the band's sound, just that it's not readily apparent.

he's the bez of pavement

yeah you can tell a Bob Stinson solo the moment it starts.

if SS soloed in the woods, would anyone care?

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coolin' by sound and winner of the... are pretty good spiral songs. also, who's that fat guy?

gary young

xpss spiral stairs certainly did something to keep sm from doing his prog guitar shtick, so yeah i'd say that's a pretty stupid statement to anyone who's even remotely been in a band

I saw Pavement in 1991-1997 *gulp* at least two dozen times (maybe more?) and my most frequent memory of SS was him asking the sound guy to turn down his guitar at nearly every show (which wasn't very audible to begin with).

dude seems mellow, stable, chill compared to most of the other guys. think he handled all the biz side of the band which was probably pretty helpful. also pretty sure he talked everyone into doing lollapalooza which set them up financially for realsies.

that said if you're big on their pre-matador career his playing is ALL over those singles/EPs... once slanted was visualized was where he got marginalized imo. his best song is the b-side "coolin by sound" (XPOST!)

Spiral Stairs' guitar is as proficient and colorless as Westerburg's immediately post-Tim.

I'm not saying SS was a great or distinctive guitarist, just that somehow having him in the band brought out something different in SM maybe as a songwriter/performer. Could be due to shared history or knowledge of the other's tastes and wanting to do something they'd think was cool. I don't know. It could be just that SM was younger then and in a more interesting phase of his development as a musician.

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if people frequenly attribute 'all' of a band's songwriting to the frontman even when the bulk of their publishing credits indicate otherwise, isn't it fair to say that the band probably knows better than the listener what the actual distribution of labor was?

Really, the U2-REM-New Order approach is the most democratic and, in the best sense, confusing.

i just assumed the ones SM sang were his, that he wrote all by his lonesome and SS, same thing. after Slanted and Enchanted they didn't seem like the kind of band that collaborated for whatever reason.

didn't they all love in different states by the time crooked rain, crooked rain came together?

they were sailors, with a woman and greyhound in every port.

yeah they were scattered around the US and did the album in NYC

didn't they all love in different states by the time crooked rain, crooked rain came together?

― SHORTS? seriously? fuck off. (ojo), Monday, March 8, 2010 12:32 PM (2 minutes ago)

they never lived in the same state fwiw.

For those interested in what a more Spiral-centric S+E would sound like, I dare you to make it all the way through out-take "Nothing Ever Happens", which was thankfully edited down to an instrumental 17 seconds of Malkmus Oberheim squiggle and tacked on to the end of Trigger Cut as "Wounded Kite".

That album cover is awesome. Bumping the 'actual good album covers' thread immediatly.