polite suggestions thread for the FREEFORM 1990s ALBUMS POLL

loujag laid out the rules here: ALL-NEW FREEFORM (SORTA) 1990s ALBUMS POLL: THE BANNS

basically you can vote for anything that didn't place in the original poll: THE 1990s POLL RESULTS - THE ALBUMS

he's not doing nominations, but I thought it'd be helpful to have a thread to just list good albums to suggest and remind people out that came out in the 1990s, were awesome, and missed the previous poll, whether you're definitely going to vote for them or just want to gauge support for them or whatever. I'm gonna get the ball rolling with some classic hip hop LPs:

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt*
Mobb Deep - The Infamous*
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
UGK - Ridin' Dirty*
2Pac - All Eyez On Me*
Big Punisher - Capital Punishment*
Camp Lo - Uptown Saturday Night*
Common - Resurrection*
The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate

* no albums by this artist were in the first poll, so anything else by them is up for grabs too (I highly suggest everyone do this when they post too)

really? another thread about a poll?

i'm unemployed, let me waste my time as i see fit

new subliminal ETOV SCAIDRAC answers

some well-regarded rock albums that I think/hope have a fighting chance of placing in this poll:

The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I*
Soundgarden – Superunknown*
Morphine - Cure For Pain*
They Might Be Giants - Flood*
The Boo Radleys - Giant Steps*
Hole - Live Through This*
Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record*
Sonic Youth - Dirty*
Elliott Smith - Either/Or*
Brendan Benson - One Mississippi*

Godspeed You Black Emperor! - f#a#° *
Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Slow Riot For Zero Kanada*
Jim O'Rourke - Bad Timing*
Jim O'Rourke - Eureka*
Neil Young - Dead Man*
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Sleeps With Angels*
Neil Young - Ragged Glory*
Nirvana - Unplugged In New York
Pavement - Wowee Zowee
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Mix*
Slint - Spiderland*
Soundgarden - Badmotofinger*
Stereolab - Dots And Loops
The Flaming Lips - Zaireeka
The Olivia Tremor Control: Dusk at Cubist Castle*
Tom Waits - Mule Variations*
Tom Waits: Bone Machine*
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die*

No Neil on the original?

jesus lizard - goat*

Pulp - His N Hers
Pulp - This Is Hardcore

I don't hate Different Class like lj does, but i'm definitely down with trying to get either of these up there in this poll

Unrepresented on original poll and ought to be represented imo:

Fugazi
Ghostface
Bone Thugs
Photek
Burzum
The Auteurs
Drexciya
Burger/Ink
Pale Saints
Flying Saucer Attack
Basehead
Ice Cube

A lot, basically.

The original poll is pretty dire. I would like to lobby for Uncle Tupelo and the Geto Boys.

oh hi I just mentally crossed Burger/Ink off my giant imaginary shortlist because I thought it would not get votes but if it would then that is cool and hopefully I can find space to get it one myself
also forgot about Drexciya, man so much stuff
not sure there is any way I can vote without either hacking mine down to the very most obvious things or voting for 199 albums and doing none of them any favours but maybe a pretty epic 90s mix cd or three will come out of this

(xpost because ILX wouldn't load)

People, if you have a couple spare points to throw at Around the Fur by Deftones, please do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbjqruCITIU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiaLpUnoFVs

Check out:
Naked City - Grand Guignol
Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual
Oval - 94diskont/systemisch
Boredoms - Super Roots 7/Pop Tatari
Autechre - LP5/EP7
Stereolab - MAQ/cobra
XTC - Nonsuch/Apple Venus
DJ Db - A History of our World (vol 1)
FNM/Mr. Bungle
all Mouse on Mars
Ruins and Koenji? Cardiacs?

Jock Jams volume 2!

reminding me of Super Roots 7 AND XTC's wholly underrated 90's output = shit this ballot isn't gonna be easy :/

And Mr Bungle!

Ritual de lo Habitual didn't place?! Well that makes my task a little easier at least.

space jam ost

album ruled my childhood

things I would like to see and believe might actually get some other votes: Polvo*, Stars of the Lid*, Gas*, Unwound*, Don Caballero*, Sun City Girls*

the following bands were all represented in the last one but not with my favourite of their 90s work: Pavement, Stereolab, Autechre, the Orb, Guided by Voices, Magnetic Fields (lol corniest indie list) - but this poll is so hard to vote for that I may have to rule any bands in the last one out just to get a list together

maybe surmounter will vote so I can give some points to Belly* - a weird pick for Best Album votes maybe but that was the first album I was completely obsessed with and I still put it on pretty regularly

4 Gang Starr albums in the 90s, all eligible.

albums i adore that i'm probably gonna feel all conflicted about whether or not to vote for since i can't imagine they'll get much support from anyone else:

The Geraldine Fibbers - Lost Somewhere Between The Earth And My Home*
Superchunk - Here's Where The Strings Come In*
Skeleton Key - Fantastic Spikes Through Balloons*
Sparklehorse - Good Morning Spider*
Two Dollar Guitar - Burned And Buried*
Mike Watt - Contemplating The Engine Room*
Sloan - One Chord To Another*
The Posies - Frosting On The Beater*
Firewater - The Ponzi Scheme*
Trans Am - Surrender To The Night*

That Sparklehorse album better than Vivadixie... then? I kinda dig about half of that record, especially "Someday I Will Treat You Good" and "Hammering The Cramps"

love both those records but have more of an attachment to GMS

Man this will be tough, some of these are v personal selections, mostly things I heard and fell in love with during the early 00s

DJ Harvey - Late Night Sessions
Van Pelt - Stealing From Our Favorite Thieves
Native Nod - Today Puberty, Tomorrow The World
Prince - The Black Album
Don Caballero - What Burns Never Returns
Arvo Pärt - Fratres / Summa
Rachel's - The Sea And The Bells
Autechre - Incunabula
Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
Gas - Königsforst
Botch - We Are The Romans
Slint - Spiderland
John Zorn - The Circle Maker
Arthur Russell - Another Thought
Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II
Beck - Midnite Vultures
Boards Of Canada Music Has The Right To Children
LFO - Frequencies
Nightmares On Wax - Smokers Delight
Amon Tobin - Permutation / Bricolage
Cinematic Orchestra - Motion
Funki Porcini - Hed Phone Sex
Mr. Scruff - Keep It Unreal
Sonny Sharrock - Ask The Ages
Medeski, Martin & Wood - It's a Jungle in Here
Souls Of Mischief - 93 'til Infinity
Schneider TM - Moist
Mouse On Mars - Iaora Tahiti
Jim O'Rourke - Eureka
Beck - Midnite Vultures

Quickly going through a Smart Playlist, some things I might consider voting for:

New Bomb Turks - !!Destroy-Oh-Boy!!*
Jeru the Damaja - The Wrath of the Math*
MF Doom - Operation Doomsday
The Mountain Goats - Sweden*
PJ Harvey - Rid of Me
Redman - Dare Iz a Darkside*
En Vogue - Funky Divas*
UGK - Too Hard to Swallow
Warren G - Regulate...G Funk Era*

And Carl Craig's output:

Carl Craig - More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art
Innerzone Orchestra - Programmed
Paperclip People - The Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich

Alexander von Schlippenbach - Elf Bagatellen
Ali Farka Touré - Niafunké
Arvo Pärt - Te Deum
Chöying Drolma & Steve Tibbetts - Cho
Gas - Königsforst
Kinski - Be Gentle With the Warm Turtle
Lali Puna - Tridecoder
Ground Zero - Revolutionary Pekinese Opera Ver.1.28
Iva Bittová & Vladimír Václavek - Bílé Inferno
Lou Harrison - Gamelan Music
Mano Negra - Casa Babylon
The Magnetic Fields - The Charm of the Highway Strip
Morton Feldman - Rothko Chapel
Palace Music - Viva Last Blues
Pole - 1
Stereolab - Dots and Loops
Slowdive - Souvlaki
Sigur Ros - Ágætis byrjun
Sun City Girls - Dante's Disneyland Inferno
William Parker - The Peach Orchard

good call on carl craig

(xxxp) I might vote for vivadixieetc, and could possibly vote for a Trans Am album but not sure which (Surrender or Futureworld most likely)
but no promises yet as I've got a whole lot of whittling to do if I want to give anything more than 4 points

(xxp) that Boards of Canada made the original btw Crackle Box but I can't see any of the others

oh god every new post is bringing up an artist i'd forgotten about and would like to vote for, may have to stop reading

btw if y'all get stuck b/c of too many options just try and limit yourself to the first 8 or 9 that REALLY leap into your head - it's what I'm gonna do in all probability

Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun

Fuck. Completely missed this one, keep forgetting it was released in 1999. Definitely one of my favorite records of the 90s.

I like your list Crackle, many records I like in there.

Ha! That was in the 00-04 poll, though! And I'm sure it'll get quite a lot of love (unless y'all choose SR7 instead)

I'm modifying my ballot once again... I knew I shouldn't have sent it so early :P

just saying that motherfuckers better vote for ATLiens

that is all

Guided By Voices--Alien Lanes!

the boards of canada one placed in the first poll

Pulp's His n Hers did too.

Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One.

son volt - trace
saint etienne - good humour
catherine wheel - chrome
the the - dusk
gravediggaz - the pick the sickle and the shovel
ice cube - the predator
royal trux - twin infinitives, cats and dogs, sweet sixteen, thank you, singles live unreleased, accelerator, veterans of disorder
the make-up - destination love, sound verite, in mass mind, save yourself
girls against boys - venus luxure no. 1, house of gvsb
passengers - original soundtracks 1
my favorite - love at absolute zero
low - i could live in hope, long division, the curtain hits the cast, secret name
bohren & der club of gore - gore motel, midnight radio
jeru the damaja - the sun rises in the east

will be voting for a catherine wheel album, but not chrome, although 'broken head' was lodged in my brain recently in all its smashing-pumpkins-but-way-better glory. also the the's dusk is an album i will rep for any day.

don't know about album but the passengers track 'your blue room' would receive voting consideration - easily U2's best song imo

a-m

Erykah Badu - Baduizm
Black Sheep - A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
the Basic Channel CD
The Breeders - Last Splash
Arnold Dreyblatt - Animal Magnetism
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
Ghost - Snuffbox Immanence
Hole - Celebrity Skin
Le Tigre
Madonna - Erotica
Magnetic Fields - Charm of the Highway Strip
Mercury Rev - Boces
Moby - Play
Monolake - Hongkong and Interstate

all * except magnetic fields

Mercury Rev - Boces

important suggestion

albums i adore that i'm probably gonna feel all conflicted about whether or not to vote for since i can't imagine they'll get much support from anyone else:

The Geraldine Fibbers - Lost Somewhere Between The Earth And My Home*
Superchunk - Here's Where The Strings Come In*
Skeleton Key - Fantastic Spikes Through Balloons*
Sparklehorse - Good Morning Spider*
Two Dollar Guitar - Burned And Buried*
Mike Watt - Contemplating The Engine Room*
Sloan - One Chord To Another*
The Posies - Frosting On The Beater*
Firewater - The Ponzi Scheme*
Trans Am - Surrender To The Night*

― dora the explaro (some dude), Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:47 PM (3 hours ago)

i can guarantee that i am voting for 2 of these prob 3!

i will not say which in order to maintain suspense or something

that Fibbers rec is one of the 90's best

Pale Ribbons - The Comfort of Madness
Pete Namlook - Air 1
Piano Magic - Bliss Out Vol. 13: A Trick of the Sea
Rhythm & Sound - Showcase
Sonny Sharrock - Ask the Ages
Spoon - A Series of Sneaks
Super Furry Animals - Guerrilla
Robert Wyatt - Shleep

also POLE 1 POLE 1 POLE 1

Ice Cube- Death Certificate 200 points

lol u hate koreans

Everyone should vote for boring shit albums.

i gave a bunch of points to Biosphere - Substrata

i hope i'm not the only one...

I might vote for that, though I rate Patashnik a bit higher.

AALIYAH's ONE IN A MILLION

I'll probably also vote for A Thousand Leaves and the first Godspeed album...

Any takers for:
dEUS - Worst Case Scenario
dEUS - In a Bar, Under the Sea
Moondog Jr. - Everyday I Wear a Greasy Black Feather in My Hat
Stereolab - Peng!
Faust - You Know Us
Tocotronic - Digital Ist Besser
Matthew Shipp Trio - The Multiplication Table
DJ Shadow & Cut Chemist - Brainfreeze
Mogwai - Young Team
Palace Music - Lost Blues And Other Songs
The Dead C - Repent
Tom Zé - Fabrication Defect : Com Defeito De Fabricação

Technotronic - Pump Up The Jam: The Album
Spacemen 3 - Recurring
Spacemen 3 - Dreamweapon
Sinead O'Connor - I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got
Ride - Nowhere
Ride - Going Blank Again
LFO - Frequencies
LFO - Advance
Curve - Doppelganger
Curve - Public Fruit
Madonna - Erotica
Aphex Twin - ...I Care Because You Do
Spiritualized - Pure Phase
Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies
Bjork - Debut
Seefeel - Quique
Global Communication - 76:14
Woob - Woob 1194
Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill
Radiohead - The Bends
Leftfield - Leftism
Fugees - The Score
Cibo Matto - Viva! La Woman
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come
Madonna - Ray of Light

Will someone pretty please compile a nomination chart?

Do you mean a "polite suggestions" chart? This poll is being done without nominations: you can vote for an album even if it's never been mentioned on ILM.

Looking forward to the top 10,000 countdown in due course

Shiina Ringo - Muzai Moratorium

LJ, I'll go in with you on 13.

awesome

guys

anyone for some Hood?

my suggestions in the first post on this thread were all pretty hood

otm but sometimes drizzly yorkshire post-rock plinking is hood too

I will vote for Hood if you promise me that Crowded House, Dodgy and Alanis Morissette are discounted. In fact, if you discount almost every album nominated here. No wonder you guys all think the '90s sucked.

I will vote for Hood's Crowded Houses and Forlorn Morisettes

loooooooooooooool

nobody has thusfar voted for dodgy but geir has not yet cast his ballot

no comment on other two

I know that it probably doesn't really have a chance of placing, but I'd be remiss in not mentioning

Nomeansno - Live & Cuddly

one of the best live punk albums ever.

Lush - Spooky

Mr. Bungle - California

Nirvana – Incesticide
Mudhoney – Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge
Built to Spill – Keep It Like a Secret
Les Savy Fav – The Cat and The Cobra
Jellyfish – Spilt Milk

know that it probably doesn't really have a chance of placing, but I'd be remiss in not mentioning

Nomeansno - Live & Cuddly

one of the best live punk albums ever.

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, March 12, 2010 1:11 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

By the way, there is still time in the month of March to track down and fall in love with this album.

It's this one (in case you go out looking for it).

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/78/Nomeansno_Live_and_Cuddly.jpg

Some more that I don't think have been mentioned:

Ween - God Ween Satan: The Oneness
Sonic Youth - Goo
Overwhelming Colorfast - Overwhelming Colorfast
The Orb - U.F.Orb
Stereolab - Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements
Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - Strangers From the Universe
Otomo Yoshihide & Carl Stone - Amino Argot: Monogatarai
Katatonia - Brave Murder Day

Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonycologist
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonycologist
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonycologist
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonycologist
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonycologist
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonycologist
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonycologist

Just vote vote vote.

I was too lazy to put too much work into this. I just copied and pasted this thread and whittled it down. Just lettin' y'all know how IMPORTANT your words are here.

That's fair enough. The rest of you, get on with it!

So as far as I can tell I can vote for all these, right?

Sun City Girls- 330,003 Crossdressers From The Rig Veda
Gastr Del Sol- Mirror Repair
Boredoms- Super Roots 7
Flaming Lips- Hit To Death In The Future Head
Current 93- All The Pretty Little Horses
Built To Spill- There's Nothing Wrong With Love
Dog Faced Hermans- Hum Of Life
The Fall- Levitate
Robyn Hitchcock- Moss Elixir
Jerry Goldsmith- Total Recall OST

you can, and you SHOULD!!

These are important to me, but it looks like the only overlap with anyone else's taste is in the Lamb debut.

Rain Tree Crow - Rain Tree Crow
Steven Jesse Bernstein - Prison
Insides - Euphoria
Autechre - Amber
Slowdive - Souvlaki
Golden Palominos - Dead Inside
African Head Charge - Songs of Praise
His Name is Alive - Home is in Your Head
Bel Canto - Shimmering Warm & Bright
Coil - Love's Secred Domain
Various Artists - Artificial Intelligence
Various Artists - History of Our World Part I
Laika - Silver Apples of the Moon
Hallucinogen - Twisted
Robert Rich & B. Lustmord - Stalker
Lamb - Lamb
Various Artists - Torque
Bola - Soup
Rhythm & Sound - Showcase
All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavors - Turning into Small
Les Rhythms Digitales - Darkdancer
Dettinger - Intershop

should easily be able to compile a top 1000 at this rate

Love that Rain Tree Crow album. When considering my votes I wasn't sure if was '89 or '90 though.

I have "Amber" on my mental list and was probably gonna vote for something by HNIA but keep being indecisive about which - but I'm going to vote for a whole lot of things and probably everything is getting single-figure votes, so nobody count on me to bump up their favourites

Hey Louis, I just noticed a typo in my ballot, I'd written Me’Shell Ndegéocello as "Ndegécello", without the middle "o". I doubt she's gonna make the top 100 or whatever you're gonna roll, but just in case she does...

Various Artists - History of Our World Part I

This is a great selection of tunes, but I only heard it during the 00s, so I spent my d'n'b compilation vote for Platinum Breakz, which was something I was actually listening to back in the day.

Ack, I don't yet have a d'n'b compilation vote, should probably fix that. I loved this so very much, not that I'd expect anyone else to vote for it:
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Jungle-Massive-Collective-2/release/283371

Ah cool, Tuomas, will correct...

I think the 90s were probably the decade for various artists compilations, at least when it comes to electronic music. Unless you were a DJ or otherwise had loads of money to spend on singles (and had a working vinyl deck), compilations were the best way to get electronic/dance music, especially during the first half of the decade when electronic albums were still relatively rare. That said, I only included three comps in my poll, even though there were many others I have fond memories of, because I assume 98% of votes will still go to albums, so I didn't want to "waste" too much of my ballot.

Another problem, of course, is that there were so many of those comps that the votes will probably be spread too thin. For example, back in 1994 Trance Europe Express 3 was very important record to me, as I discovered a whole bunch of artists by hearing them on that comp (Air Liquide, Alter Ego, Mouse on Mars, µ-ziq, Banco de Gaia...), but I doubt there are too many other ILXors for whom it mattered as much.

where is the goddamned results thread for this poll

FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

thx

So how about that 90s singles poll? Sam?

these are the results for the one done in 2004:

Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

I'd be into organizing an alternate poll, with all those songs disqualified, if people wanted to see that, though.

Yeah, the idea was that the alternate 90s singles poll would be arranged after the 00s poll is over. And it is now. I think Sam/A Hoy Hoy said he could do that, but maybe he can delegate it to you?

Wasn't somebody saying they were going to do an emocore poll or something like that though? We should really be careful of overlapping polls.

I was going to do a shoegaze/dreampop poll, but I'm in no hurry.

I'm definitely more into singles/tracks polls now. It takes a really good write-up to get me into an album, but a tracks countdown with youtubes is like a feast.