Favourite SST Release of... 1984

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Second in a series of polls. See results of part 1 Favourite SST Release 1978-1983?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
027 Hüsker Dü Zen Arcade 43
028 Minutemen Double Nickels On The Dime 40
019 Meat Puppets Meat Puppets II 20
025 Hüsker Dü Eight Miles High 15
022 Saint Vitus Saint Vitus 13
023 Black Flag My War 5
029 Black Flag Slip It In 2
026 Black Flag Family Man 1
024 Saccharine Trust Surviving You, Always 1
030 Black Flag Live '84 1


pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

fuck. II vs Zen Arcade vs My War for me.

am thinking Zen Arcade > II > My War. but its close.

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/Minutemen%201984.jpg

^^winners. lock thread.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Double Nickels!!!!

Religious Embolism (WmC), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

So, why didn't Husker Du put Eight Miles High on Zen Arcade? Just imagine how great that would have been.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

My gut feeling says Minutemen, so I'll vote for them, even though I don't own any of their records anymore. (Had this one and What Makes A Man Start Fires and a few other ones back before my late '80s indie purge.) Do still own Meat Puppets II and Zen Arcade, but only on CD. Don't even have my "Eight Miles High" 45 anymore. (Also didn't realize that Black Flag put out 4 albums that year; that's pretty crazy. I stopped listening after Slip It In, which I never liked much. Kind of wish I still had My War though.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

listened to my war for the first time in a zillion years not that long ago and it sounded very cool. one of those cases where i might like it more now than i did then.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

I love the first three songs on Slip It In better than anything else they did post-Damaged, but I never got into My War.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

I think the sound on Slip It In stands up better than on the other albums too. Kira adds a lot.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

in general, i do like hearing minutemen a LOT more now than i did then. back then i really only wanted to hear project mersh, van halen cover, and little man with a gun in his hand. but i have lots more love for all their stuff now. i had to grow into it, i guess. whereas, husker du spoke perfectly to my drug-addled 16 year old brain back then.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

i didn't buy meat puppets 2 when it came out. up on the sun was the first one i bought. which is a shame, cuz i would have loved it at 16.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

1984 really was, like, year zero for me. i heard SO MANY amazing things for the first time. i mean, i was already a punk/harcore/new wave/rap fan in 1984, but i heard stuff that definitely changed my life that year. i started listening to the grateful dead in 1984!

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

SAINT VITUS

John Disk & The Fetus People (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

Puppets just barely over Minutemen.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

My call: 1: Double Nickels. 2: Zen Arcade. 3: Meat Puppets II. 4: My War.

That being said, and despite having much love for the top 3, I'm voting for Saccharine Trust. I would LOVE to hear a clean copy of it, as I just know it'll knock me on the floor (though Jack Brewer sent me the copy I have, so I can't complain with what I've got!).

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

1984 ... it was a very good year. Paz and Jop results:
1. Bruce Springsteen: Born in the U.S.A. (Columbia) 1757 (136)
2. Prince and the Revolution: Purple Rain (Warner Bros.) 1687 (136)
3. Los Lobos: How Will the Wolf Survive? (Slash) 1123 (102)
4. The Replacements: Let It Be (Twin/Tone) 937 (76)
5. Tina Turner: Private Dancer (Capitol) 808 (80)
6. R.E.M.: Reckoning (I.R.S.) 793 (76)
7. The Pretenders: Learning to Crawl (Sire) 702 (72)
8. Hüsker Dü: Zen Arcade (SST) 658 (58)
9. Lou Reed: New Sensations (RCA Victor) 586 (60)
10. Run-D.M.C.: Run-D.M.C. (Profile) 523 (55)
11. Cyndi Lauper: She's So Unusual (Portrait '83) 517 (50) *
12. Bangles: All Over the Place (Columbia) 458 (52)
13. Ramones: Too Tough to Die (Sire) 405 (38)
14. Minutemen: Double Nickels on the Dime (SST) 362 (35)
15. The dB's: Like This (Bearsville) 350 (40)
16. Womack & Womack: Love Wars (Elektra '83) 272 (28) *
17. Laurie Anderson: Mister Heartbreak (Warner Bros.) 267 (28)
18. Rubén Blades y Seis del Solar: Buscando America (Elektra) 257 (20)
19. Laurie Anderson: United States Live (Warner Bros.) 247 (14)
20. Meat Puppets: Meat Puppets II (SST) 213 (26)
21. Neville Brothers: Neville-ization (Black Top) 204 (21)
22. The Smiths: The Smiths (Sire) 187 (14)
23. Let's Active: Cypress (I.R.S.) 176 (18)
24. Tom Verlaine: Cover (Warner Bros.) 156 (19)
25. Van Halen: 1984 (Warner Bros.) 156 (13)
26. Del-Lords: Frontier Days (EMI America) 155 (20)
27. Linton Kwesi Johnson: Making History (Island) 153 (14)
28. George Clinton: You Shouldn't-Nuf Bit Fish (Capitol '83) 149 (16) *
29. U2: The Unforgettable Fire (Island) 149 (15)
30. King Sunny Ade and His African Beats: Aura (Island) 149 (14)
31. Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense (Sire) 148 (17)
32. ZZ Top: Eliminator (Warner Bros.) 148 (14) *
33. Peter Wolf: Lights Out (EMI America) 135 (16)
34. The Gospel at Colonus (Warner Bros.) 130 (15)
35. Lyres: On Fyre (Ace of Hearts) 114 (12)
36. The Everly Brothers: EB 84 (Mercury) 110 (12)
37. P. Funk All-Stars: Urban Dancefloor Guerillas (CBS Associated/Uncle Jam '83) 110 (11) *
38. Del Fuegos: The Longest Day (Slash) 108 (12)
39. The Special AKA: In the Studio (Chrysalis) 102 (10)
40. Rickie Lee Jones: The Magazine (Warner Bros.)

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

All of it! Best label ever?

The Minutemen by a shade, but for purely emotional reasons.

Cream Of Some Young Guy, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

Definitely Minutemen, but Slip It In is a close second. "The Bars" is such an amazing track. I never liked Hüsker Dü very much at all.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

Double Nickels. The crowning achievement of what was probably the greatest year for indie/alternative rock.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

Minutemen

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

Greatest year for indie/punk/whatevs and one of the best for mainstream rock/pop too. 1984 was a blazing hole of goodness.

T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)

Will prob have to be honest and vote for Dbl Nckls because it was like one of the foundation stones of my brain at the time, and still is. But it will KILL me not to vote for My War.

T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

YOU'RE ONE OF THEM

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

Greatest year for indie/punk/whatevs and one of the best for mainstream rock/pop too. 1984 was a blazing hole of goodness.

― T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:47 PM (5 minutes ago)

Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

My copy of the Saint Vitus LP was purchased from milk carton ilxor Tim Ellison some years back for a barely believable $1 plus postage

voted Zen Arcade however

Not a musician, but I thought of Justin Fashanu for some reason (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

Tim made a solitary post just a coupla months ago (can't remember the thread)

Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

"Also didn't realize that Black Flag put out 4 albums that year; that's pretty crazy."

Isn't this cuz they didn't release any records in the previous three due to a lawsuit?

Clearly Zen Arcade vs. Double Nickels although I might just vote II so I don't have to choose.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

Isn't this cuz they didn't release any records in the previous three due to a lawsuit?

That's it exactly. Though they did release Everything Went Black during that period, which apparently resulted in a night in the cells for Greg and Chuck - unless that's an apocryphal story.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

Puppets just barely over Minutemen.

― Jazzbo, Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:21 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah same for me, but someday i have to sit down with MY WAR and SLIP IT IN.

69, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

I can dismiss regrets of not voting for II or Zen by reminding myself I like both bands' subsequent LP even better.

T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

glad I have 6 days to decide, i was 14 in 84 when punk rock changed my life

a little part of me really wants to vote 025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9vhkaiVW7E

that new wave hippie disco shit (herb albert), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

Double Nickels On The Dime (not even close)

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

IMPOSSIBLE POLL

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

voted 8MH, fuk teh h8rz

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

2x nickls competition is none, love 2 more than most albums tho

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

i was 14 in 84 when punk rock changed my life

Me too. We were fucking corn dogs.

T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

Actually no I heard most of these albums at the beginning of 85. But I was still 14. And a fucking corn dog.

T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

^^that song you're referring to always always always gives me goosebumps

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

hella tender 4 sure

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

Whole album is a fucking e-ticket thrillride, even "You Need the Glory".

Religious Embolism (WmC), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

Yes. The jumping two-note figure that ends each two bar phrase is a heart tugger.

14 yo me "who the fuck is E Bloom?" Now BOC is probably my favorite of the bands shouted out to in that verse.

T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

Damn would totally sit around a back yard fire with y'all right now.

T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

Mr. Narrator

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

027 Hüsker Dü Zen Arcade

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

This is Bob Dylan to me!

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

time monitor
space measure-er

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

real things
condition-ing

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

I know Double Nickels inside-out yet only like 5 of the song titles

that new wave hippie disco shit (herb albert), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

So dig this big crux.

T. Geithner look-alikes permeate carparks (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

which apparently resulted in a night in the cells for Greg and Chuck - unless that's an apocryphal story.

several nights, and it sounds like a pretty grisly experience

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 29 March 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Too High to Die is a good intro if you can't get past the vocals on the SST records. Leary did some good knob twiddling on them, and Kirkwood could sing better and its a very strong set of songs.

bendy, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 02:32 (fifteen years ago)

"Family Man" is my favorite Black Sabbath album!

demonic splendor, demonic majesty (Abbott), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, the one by Black Flag is pretty good, too, though.

demonic splendor, demonic majesty (Abbott), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)

maybe every album will get at least one vote then

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

went with my heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI8uE_yguPE

that new wave hippie disco shit (herb albert), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

Me, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKVTWhgXce0

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSZuL7XwNWA

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-TccVzt0gU

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdbqHvsUz4

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd4cRXmWt3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0IWHxvswLk

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52scMVXF2mc

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

Greatest cover version ever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKyBlJ_JN8

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

Those two doubles are truly twin titans, but I'm gonna give it to II, just because it's the one I most feel like hearing right now. But yeah, everything up there is pretty good-to-great.

I like that label-of-the-year idea - I've always had an affinity for Sire in 1977, Warner/Reprise in '69, and Elektra in '67.

Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

i dont think anyones gonna do the best label of 84 sadly

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

There's some year of Bizarre/Straight that includes both Starsailor and Lick My Decals Off, Baby iirc-- that's a contendah!

Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

Rough Trade was crazy in 1980 - Pere Ubu, Swell Maps, Young Marble Giants, Raincoats, Pop Group, Cabaret Voltaire, The Fall, James Blood Ulmer, TV Personalities, Essential Logic, Robert Wyatt, Slits, Delta 5, Scritti Politti, the Prefects...

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

last chance to vote..

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2syLYOiO3c

forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

wow

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

All the more impressive that husker du got the vote split and still won.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

I had hoped that ZA and DNOTD might tie actually. Cuz both are great albums.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

wtf!

Religious Embolism (WmC), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

Nice surprise! But tinged with sadness that I was the only one who voted for Saccharine Trust.

However you were right pfunkboy - every album got at least one vote!

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

didn't realize there were so many damn Husker fans lurking about.

circa1916, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

Let me reiterate: wow. Between this and the other SST poll, it would seem that Husker Du has a lot more goodwill out there than I thought. Hooray for that.

clemenza, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:41 (fifteen years ago)

Husker Du are liked round here, but they're outnumbered by Minutemen fans and DNOTD fans are a lot more vocal. But tbh i think a lot love both, but HD fans cant agree on what is their best album while Minutemen fans generally do. Hence DNOTD usually doing well in the polls.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)

Remember to vote in Favourite Hüsker Dü Album?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)

Favourite SST Release of... 1985

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

as i said in the last poll, i pretty much expect Husker to dominate any poll they're in after this: your favorite run of SST releases by one band

forktongueclovenhoofu (some dude), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

022 Saint Vitus Saint Vitus 13

Wow, I'm kind of surprised! Sup fellow dirtheads.

drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:15 (fifteen years ago)

Hurrah for vitus

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 04:35 (fifteen years ago)

Husker Du are liked round here, but they're outnumbered by Minutemen fans and DNOTD fans are a lot more vocal.

this poll would suggest otherwise, kerr

d15turb3nc3 @ th3 w@ff13 h0u53 (stevie), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 07:02 (fifteen years ago)

not really, im pretty sure there was more shout outs on this thread for Minutemen, but I get your point via the results.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

stevie you spelled d15turb@nc3 wrong...

forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

i... aw shit.

d15turb3nc3 @ th3 w@ff13 h0u53 (stevie), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

Proud to be a St Vitus 13%-er for life! We should all get tattoos.

Brio, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

or meet up at a gig since they reformed.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

I remember my friend's big brother telling me that if I liked St Vitus so much I should check out Sabbath, who I was only vaguely aware of at 14. I thought he was a stupid hippy.

Brio, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

When did you become a stupid hippy?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

about 10 minutes after the events recounted above, when he put on Snowblind

Brio, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

Supernaut did it for me.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

Butthole Surfers did it for me when I realized 'Sweat Loaf' was a Sabbath riff.

Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

Walking Seeds did it for me with their version of 'Iron Man' on Skullfuck.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

the entire 80's dirtbag underground scene was a conspiracy to get kids into sabbath

Brio, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

These are good poll results. One of the very few times Ive picked the winning horse.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.factmag.com/2016/02/29/kira-roessler-black-flag-oscar-sound-editing-2016/

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 February 2016 14:56 (nine years ago)

saw that posted on the ile Oscars thread

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 February 2016 14:58 (nine years ago)

This is the best ever!

i;m the worst poster e9er (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:52 (nine years ago)


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