blue collar punk S/D (bouncing souls etc)

this is one of my favorite overall aesthetics on earth, the vaguely vintage sounding americana-tinged punk. gaslight anthem is the obvious recent big name here, but i'm also thinking social distortion and rise against and bouncing souls and (apparently?) some alkaline trio stuff too?

i've never heard any ak trio so they're kinda new to me but what else is like social d and the loved ones and sorta midwestern sounding punk

dude from the loved ones has one of my fave voices ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFSwUFmv-bU

btw not really looking to argue about class or the validity of "blue collar" as a descriptor for this stuff, just roll with me on this and help a dude find some new tunes if u plz

btw yell at 1:47 above did a number on my throat last summer

obv a lot of moments on the new titus andronicus hit at this too

come on yall

For the Midwestern part, maybe Dillinger Four. Check the tunes on their MySpace, like "Noble Stabbings" if you haven't heard them.

The entire Razorcake magazine aesthetic covers the non-Oi aspects of this.

tiltwheel. Try this podcast. http://www.razorcake.org/site/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=22620.

I think I may be a fan of titus andronicus now, never heard of them before. I'll have to listen to some more songs.

they added kind of a goth-y organ dirge element, but murder city devils maybe?

google suggests they might still be going, wow, i thought they'd packed it in like 5 years ago.

gotta say this is about my least favorite aesthetic ever, but i always kinda liked those guys.

yeah i've always only known mcd as a hot topic goth band by rep, didn't know they did other stuff. will have to check them out for sure.

zach i have never heard of razorcake and u r amazing for bringing its existence to my attn

holy shit zach i think that was the very tiltwheel reference in the history of ilx. my old san diego band had the privilege and honor of sharing the stage with tiltwheel on more than a few occasions '02-04, in fact our bass player was i think the first to fill in for jarrod after he died.

guess i'll add toys that kill and hot water music

FIRST reference excuse me

um shit i dunno like, leatherface? hot water music??

tanking yall

has there ever been white collar punk?

or is that why ska was invented

the police lol

or the talking heads maybe

i mean recall how many early punk cats were art students and how much as i love mark tom & travis this is not exactly what they & they brethren do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB5u27_UPvk&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbuT3AveyYg

hoos u might like progagandhi's stuff altho it may be too stripped-down 4 u? doesnt really have the rusty-sounding aesthetic that im thinking of. the weakerthans do this kinda prairie despair really well at times. their 1st two albums fallow & left and leaving are your best bets

jawbreaker, crimpshrine, this bike is a pipe bomb may also fit the description

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS2h94Z3Sw8

in regard to Razorcake, they inspire me every two months with pieces about maintaining integrity and fun in the face of age and indifference. The band interviews and reviews are entertaining and informative, but the essays and columns make me wish I'd done something with my life and inspire hope that I still will.

whatever, it's an endorsement.

yeah i grew up listening to propaghandi and anti-flag and international noise conspiracy and love em all still

Lazy Cowgirls?

Lazy Cowgirls are great, but I don't think they are together under that name right now. Pat Todd and the Rank Outsiders is the current version. Anyway, "Goddamn Bottle" is something to be heard. And if you get a chance to see Pat Todd perform, with whatever band he is leading, it is worth it. Strange because he looks like Bob Hoskins but is one of the greatest singers and performers I've ever seen in a hi energy rock and roll band. or country or punk or whatever you call it when it sounds like the Ramones and the Rolling Stones and AC/DC.

I'll throw in my bruvs Red Collar here, who tour around the East Coast pretty constantly, and take their name from their history of moving from the Pennsylvania to get a jobs in Chapel Hill, which neatly describes their sound, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlCGLIsimU&feature=related

Obviously not the same in terms of sound, but I saw Bouncing Souls a lot back in the mid-90s and probably the best bill I saw them on was with The Pietasters. There was definitely a similar mid-Atlantic blue-collar vibe going on. Check out their live album, not their studio albums.

I also to think of Bouncing Souls in terms of Dropkick Murphys, who I have never heard, but you'd see their tshirts at B.S. shows and I think they've toured together.

against me! reinventing axl rose

will rep for Dillinger four too - midwestern songs is the classic

yeah Hoos if you have never checked out Against me that is the one to get (xp)

This stuff was huge in NJ in the 90s. Reminds me of kids in gas station jackets and Dickies seeing shows at the local firehall.

Maybe not as anthemic as you're talking - but for 90's midwestern gas station jacket firehall rock: Didjits? New Bomb Turks?

And going back a bit: The Pagans?

Lifetime might be along your lines if you haven't heard them. Whenever someone mentions BS I think of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk18NRZfkQ4

This is probably a pretty resource for what's rated among kids who are really into this kind of thing

like 'gruff punk' is a pretty stoopid genre tag etc but a dude looking for new tunes will probably be served pretty well by it

does a HOOS like Dillinger Four?

"Doublewhiskeycokenoice"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4YtTxV7UAo

Paddy from D4 being the "St. Paddy" of Hold Steady mythology

hahah oops i should search thread first

also since i rep my city,

Banner Pilot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLl2bB7I7vY

who feature members of Off With Their Heads who recently signed to Epitaph:

this clip is awesome, from the public access show in mpls Drinking With Ian (playing live on a city bus)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1VwE0_QERQ

The Strike (think they broke up) were eventually chicago but started in mpls:

http://www.victoryrecords.com/thestrike

hoos we grew up suckling on the same musical teet. i think this was all tony hawks pro skater soundtracks to me. i still love this stuff and although i've fallen out of touch with it, or out of any regular listening, it's not because i don't think it's great. i think lawrence arms might answer your question, have you heard them?

iiijjj what was yr band in sd?

Prefer this The Strike:

http://www.captainoi.com/images/covers/the-strike-the-oi!-collection-ahoy-cd-238.jpg

But while it is "blue collar punk" I don't think Oi! music is what you're really after here.

this stuff was a big thing for me as a teenager. saw D4 once and Paddy shared a glass of rum with me during an opening band. coolest thing ever.

me too; when I finally got the chance to see D4, paddy was really sick with food poisoning :( (but it didn't stop him from belting out a few songs and getting naked)

Cleveland Bound Death Sentence (D4 dudes and Cometbus) was great too

ty guys for all the suggests

lessons learned from this thread

-when craig finn sings "me and my friends are like double whiskey coke no ice" he is not referring to the cocktail. liquor and "the drums on lust for life" never seemed like a bad pair to me but this makes a lot more sense.

-omg lawrence arms i had 1 tune on the rock against bush vol 2 from 04 but they are so awesome

-lifetime!!!!

lol was going to second the lifetime rec. <3

Listening to Mush by Leatherface right now...goddamn this album kicks ass

music like this is good at making lyrics that basically make no sense sound like deep and mystic Truth Bombs:

"everything living under the sun
must be for everyone
everyone living under a gun
must be someone"

^it's all about the melancholy yet hard chord changes

fuuuck this shit is so expensive online...vinyl copy i found is $97 and the damn cd is $45

As someone mentioned, The Pagans for sure fall into this genre. What I immediately though of though were bands like Halo of Flies and a lot of the Amp Reptile stuff.

Leatherface are the best band, and Mush is the best album. "Not a Day Goes" by hurts me to listen to. They are English, so I didn't talk about them before, but they sound Midwestern except for the Lemmy accent.

I bought a cd of Mush for a very reasonable price several years ago, I didn't know it was harder to get now. Check out their site for some cool mp3s http://www.x1984x.com/shipyards/discog/

Maybe that is an un-offical site, so I don't know if it was cool to post the link. Sorry. It says un-offical site right across the top, but I can't read.

Hoos did you get "Jersey's Best Dancers"?

I don't know if this is too alt-country, but NYC's The Weight (former punks, I think) definitely channels some of the later, more rootsy Social D stuff. The MySpace tracks aren't their best, but the album Are Men is pretty sweet.

just real quick i wanna post the tracklisting for the new tiltwheel album "the high hate us"

make like a tree and fuck off
fuck you this place is dead anyways
fuck you yams
do they make tinfoil beer helmets, cause i want one
i spent my spring break in vancouver b.c. and all i got was this dumb song
teach your children hell
talkin' about eating pussy and drinking a bucket full of cum in a town full of pig pens
shit your pants (a rock opera)
can't remember shit
yet another obligatory pertylike tiltwheel song except this time it's like magic poetry
get your gentrification out of my aburguesamiento

still curious about what yr sd band was ij

Can I just . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoumjTyyFuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm_BZ_Bx51E

I can't help it - I love Greg.

yes, and rad and thank you. been revisiting the maniacal laughter rec this week

Does Grey Area (Ernie from Token Entry) count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_AIW7NdQNw

What about H2O?

Can you tell who grew up in NY in the 90's? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_AIW7NdQNw

wait oops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MMj6gmt1JI

so a girl made me a mix

it is mostly composed of bands in this thread

<3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xETS1FXGyUc

Time was wasted
We're moving way too slow
Let's go cause we're not getting any younger
Time doesn't wait for me

dillinger four somehow sneakily became one of my desert island bands.

d4 rules always

WHISKEY REBELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDNh-rM-juQ

new favorite band

is this thread a good place to talk about how good The Devil Makes Three are getting?

can't find a decent live clip but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjEznJlWDdU

this can be that thread!!!!!!

Hoos isn't that the dude out of Agnostic Front? I had no idea he went on to form another band. huh.

yah that is the dude

i was never really a fan of agnostic front but i'm diggin this

af too aggro for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pBhgE0l5Ls

also love these guys--ex dropkick murphs singer

Listening to Mush by Leatherface right now...goddamn this album kicks ass

― kulinary gangsta (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, April 6, 2010 5:15 PM bookmarkflaglink

totally forgot about these dudes. I was all about them in my 20s. both Mush and Cherry Knowle.

them and Zeke I was all about...still like both.