_fun house_. ron asheton was much more tasteful and economical as a guitarist than james williamson. he was unfortunately not as great a bassist and so the bass lines are much more memorable on _fun house_. it swings better and the vocals are more distinctive.
― sundar subramanian, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Michael, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― james e l, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dr. C, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― alex in nyc, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― bnw, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― , Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
anyhow, the debut is all about attitude, funhouse provides the noise, and raw power, by God, IS rock and roll in all of its obscene glory so it's my pick. (we're talking about the iggy mix, accept no substitutes here.) and it has "search & destroy" which makes me want to slay all before me so obviously it's the greatest song ever.
― fred solinger, Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― K-reg, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Geordie Racer, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― AP, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― badger, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― alex in nyc, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tom, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― alex in nyc, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― AP, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― graham, Monday, 30 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Omar, Tuesday, 1 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― euan fielder, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
NO
"Bowies production is awful too."
"Iggy's mix of Raw Power makes it close"
"I feel that the Stooges didn't age well"
"it's intial production (by Bowie) rendered it so tinny and comapritively lifeless"
"Mildly catchy, mildly interesting, mildly annoying, too."
"I prefer the Iggy mix of Raw Power"
"raw power is the critic's choice and funhouse is for those who hate critics"
"they never made a great album as all of their efforts have something that fuck it up"
"(we're talking about the iggy mix, accept no substitutes here.)"
"S/T since it was produced by Cale and had neither noise nor rock but instead attitude"
"contains one unlistenable song in "L.A. Blues."
"In my experience, I've converted more of the unconverted via Raw Power than Funhouse (current score: 3 to 0,) and that kind of populist appeal probably counts for something"
"RAW POWER still kicks a mighty big ass, but you've got to admit that there are some comparitively weak tracks there"
"the debut is horribly pale and weak in comparison"
"Rethink: I s'pose the true snobs' answer would be "the unreleased one."
"arguin about these records is pointless.....they are all beautiful untouchable artworks.....each can be appreciated for hellish attitude...even all the unreleased stuff.....these guys were comin apart at the seams and who has come close to POP/WILLIAMSON/ASHETON?????? FUCKEN NOBODY!!!!"
Hahahahaha! OTM!
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Black Arkestra (Black Arkestra), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 4 September 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)
...and the gatefold snapshot.
― tipustiger, Saturday, 4 September 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 4 September 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)
That's bullshit. I mean, yeah, the rhythm guitar at the beginning of "Search and Destroy" starts off sounding like "Street Fighting Man," but, like on all the other more revved-up tracks on the album, it ends up being WAY more relentless and yakkety. That was called "punk."
His leads strike me as being very Jimmy Page-like, actually. Matter of fact, now that I think of it, the influence on his rhythm playing seems to have been "Train Kept a-Rollin'"/"Communication Breakdown" (check "Shake Appeal," "Death Trip," maybe even "Raw Power").
Give the guy some fucking credit.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)
....well, not at the time it wasn't.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 4 September 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 4 September 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)
I've never heard the Bowie mix.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 4 September 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 4 September 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 4 September 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)
thats what makes it so damn great!
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)
Personally I get different things out of all three, but if I HAD to choose... Fun House it is.
― Shady Loch Lenin (haitch), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyway, we jammed Raw Power at the COLLEGE PARTY last night.
Raw Power = pop!Funhouse = noise!
Both great! But I would never play Funhouse at a party
― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)
"iggggyy!"
― eedd, Sunday, 5 September 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― pete badmusik (pete badmusik), Sunday, 5 September 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Raw Power is pretty great too, altho neither Bowie's nor Iggy's mix was completely satisfactory.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)
it would be a tightass pointscoring thing to say that iggy's raw power rules not because there's BASS but because you can hear the GLOCKENSPIEL...but really it's because of the BASS. grunge rock lives!!
i think fun house is better.
― g--ff (gcannon), Sunday, 5 September 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
http://www.concertlivewire.com/jpegs/stooges/stooges4.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)
― shemp, Sunday, 13 March 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)
― shemp, Monday, 14 March 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)
'search and destroy' / 'gimme danger' >>>>>>> 'down on the street' / 'loose'
penetration' / 'raw power' = 'tv eye' / 'dirt'
'death trip' > 'fun house'
funhouse also has '1970', but raw power still wins on a countback
― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)
'1969' / 'i wanna be your dog' (possibly better than RP and a waaay better opening than FH)
'no fun' / 'ann' (holds its own, 'ann' being of particular note...)
'little doll' (maybe not as powerful and crazy as the other two albums outro's, but its real catchy
― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)
you are insane. no, really.
― tipustiger, Monday, 14 March 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)
― shemp, Monday, 14 March 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)
― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)
― shemp, Monday, 14 March 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
"Raw power isnt even that hot an album"NO
"they never made a great album as all of their efforts havesomething that fuck it up"
"S/T since it was produced by Cale and had neither noise norrock but instead attitude"
"In my experience, I've converted more of theunconverted via Raw Power than Funhouse (current score: 3 to 0,) and that kind of populist appeal probably counts for something"
"RAW POWER still kicks a mighty big ass, but you've got to admit that there are somecomparitively weak tracks there"
"the debut is horribly pale and weak incomparison"
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, September 3, 2004 8:34 PM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 13:46 (eight years ago)
The people in this thread who were seriously arguing in favor of Iggy's played-through-a-blown-out-answering-machine wannabe-Guitar-Wolf mix of Raw Power were collectively out of their fucking minds.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 14:26 (eight years ago)
taking sides: the weirdness vs ready to die
― Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 14:30 (eight years ago)
fun house vs exile on main street
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 14:55 (eight years ago)
Ready to Die is actually a lot better than The Weirdness, and only partly because The Weirdness is the worst album Iggy's ever done. RtD stands on its own merits.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)
imo: raw power: bowie vs iggy mixes
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:32 (eight years ago)
Fun House
I like The Weirdness.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 15:54 (eight years ago)
http://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/181796572_10164947181800431_4648346596775892712_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=vN0ZYp4cCk4AX_ynehV&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=f0fb9f942c486173dd8d0a576ff913b8&oe=60B2B6FB
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 2 May 2021 14:02 (four years ago)
Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre. Raw Power is pretty good.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 2 May 2021 14:09 (four years ago)
WT...?
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 May 2021 14:12 (four years ago)
Pretty much. Raw Power has some good songs destroyed by inexplicable production choices.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:14 (four years ago)
Funhouse is probably “better,” but I’m less likely to throw it on.
― smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:23 (four years ago)
(I also love Williamson’s gtr playing, as a matter of personal taste.)
― smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:25 (four years ago)
no sax on raw power so fuck that album
― Left, Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:28 (four years ago)
Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre. Raw Power is pretty good.― pomenitul, Sunday, 2 May 2021
― pomenitul, Sunday, 2 May 2021
Correct
― Duke, Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:36 (four years ago)
side 2 of Raw Power kinda drags for me but side 1 is one of the best side 1s ever
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:57 (four years ago)
pomenitul otm. I don't dislike Raw Power, but it sounded and felt so self-conscious after Fun House, like they were trying to live up to or create or re-create some nebulous myth(s) about themselves...and with a guitarist who was uninterested in taking risks. And wrt the awful production, the drums on Fun House are popping all over the place, the source of that record's agitation; on Raw Power they're buried under a heavy blanket.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:58 (four years ago)
Is that a real cartoon or a photoshop?
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:08 (four years ago)
Fun House is one of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre.
it is absolutely perfect that don gallucci played keyboards on the kingsmen's version of "louie louie" and went on to record the first american prog album (touch) before producing this
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:30 (four years ago)
Fun House and Raw Power are two of the greatest records of all time regardless of genre.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:33 (four years ago)
I love both, though not sure either is the best Stooges record tbh
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 2 May 2021 17:37 (four years ago)
Tonight I'm listening to the disc from the Fun House box that has 14 takes of "TV Eye" in a row. Because fuck my downstairs neighbors.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 July 2021 00:18 (four years ago)
RAW POWER
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 July 2021 16:09 (four years ago)
They’re both 5 stars records though
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 July 2021 16:11 (four years ago)