TS: 'Funhouse' vs. 'Shout at the Devil'

First, "Looks that Kill" sounds a bit similar to "TV Eye". Beatwise, fumbly-gtr-lead wise. "Red Hot" is a also close in feel to "1970" as well, let's go to a dangerous party where bad stuff might happen. That's the similarities. Diffs.? OK. Iggy was an educated guy from a liberal college town who was into free jazz and performance art and Jim Morrison, the Stooges took psychedelic drugs to reach their 'cosmic O-mind'[remember this] and the extent of their rebellion was that they hated Alvin Lee. Nikki Sixx was a fuckup from nowhere who wanted to be in Social Distortion and TSOL. (What's more 'rock'?) The Stooges sang about sex and violence but they weren't really evil, they were just celebrating the new freedoms and loveliness of a world where the huge population of teenagers would see to it that people would quit doing dull old jobs and wars and marriages and instead kick out the jams all day long and fuck everybody in sight!!! Motley Crue sang about sex and violence in a world where everybody's parents had absolved all responsibilities and were now crackheads and bikers who pimped their kids until the kids were old enough to run away from home and start bands like Social Distortion and TSOL. 'Shout at the Devil' is NOT party rock. It's an amazingly bitter album. "Now I'm killing you, watch your face turning blue." "Out go the lights, in goes my knife, pull out his life, consider that bastard dead." All the old Stooges fans shook their heads. "Sure, Iggy sang about that stuff too, but it was about existential-rage-for-life, not Motley's cheap, crass exploitation." Well who exactly created the cheap crass world Motley came from, boomer shit? Free sex-n-drugs don't look so good when it's your mom indulging in same now, does it? Iggy hated cops because they were part of a huge monolith that silenced the wisdom of John Sinclair and had the temerity to impose draconian $10 fines on Ann Arbor potheads. Nikki Sixx hated cops because the LAPD likes to beat the shit out of anybody they see, particularly punks and junkies who ended up on the street because their revolutionary-generation parents put their new freedom and assertiveness in action and dumped the kids when they got in the way of their porno-film/crank-dealing business. (Motley/Nirvana = Pistols/Smiths?) (Back to sonics - compare side-closers, "Dirt" ["I'm lerrrning..." WHO FUCKING CARES! The reason everything's so fucked up is your generation was content to 'learn about themselves', forever] to "Danger" [they rip off Judas Priest where Iggy rips off ALbert Ayler, who is more 'honest'?], and also, Mick Mars session-frustration might be less 'rock' than Ron Asheton's drug-frustration but it sounds kind of similar in the end except with a squeaky trebly grating tone instead of that thick pretty chewy Asheton thing - in fact, Mars sounds more like James Williamson) THe Stooges = hippies and a poet who protested too goddam much, and however much they bragged about being stupid (tip-off), you can't imagine any of them losing in Scrabble to Tommy Lee, could you? (Also re the Morrison thing - Vince Neil's fat, slobbering, drunk vehicular menace is truer to the Lizard King's spirit than any rippling torso. RIPPLING TORSOS! Since when is that a good thing? Since Iggy!) Final seal of argument (for dave q if nobody else) - the Stooges could, under a certain light, MAYBE pass for being English. The Crue never, ever, ever, ever could be mistaken for being English in a million years. Therefore they are both more 'rock' and 'better'. Too bad they only made one good album, but then, the Zakary Thaks only made one SINGLE and that was enough.