M.I.A. has turned her ire toward Lady Gaga

apologizes if this has been posted elsewhere but i don't think it has, original interview is from the NME:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/04/mia-unlike-gaga-i-wont-be-blindfolded-with-naked-men-feeding-me-apples-.html

How important are image and visuals to your music?

Very. But it’s not like “Haus of Gaga” (laughs). Me blindfolded with naked men feeding me apples and ....
It comes as part of a longer, must-read ethering centered around a popular criticism of Gaga’s music: that her fashion sense seems to far exceed her songs in terms of future-thinking ambition.

“None of her music’s reflective of how weird she wants to be or thinks she is. She models herself on Grace Jones and Madonna, but the music sounds like 20-year-old Ibiza music, you know? She’s not progressive, but she’s a good mimic…. That’s a talent and she’s got a great team behind her, but she’s the industry's last stab at making itself important - saying, ‘You need our money behind you, the endorsements, the stadiums.’ Respect to her, she’s keeping a hundred thousand people in work, but my belief is: Do It Yourself.”

talk about missing the point

mia otm

i wonder if mia makes her own sunglasses

"mia is shit" troll

Lady Gaga sounds like Milano 25 years ago rather than Ibiza 20 years ago. Not that there's anything wrong with that though....

M.I.A. has become and honorary Gallagher bro.

anyone gonna argue that lady gaga is is making more interesting music than mia?

mia and taylor swift and lady gaga are forming a supergroup with carl palmer

all music is gay wear cool sunglasses if u agree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PW2LELeeNs

M.I.A.... is a HATERRRRRRRRRRRR

dumb

anyone gonna argue that lady gaga is is making more interesting music than mia?

― iatee, Wednesday, April 7, 2010 11:31 PM (5 minutes ago)

i don't really like either except for a few scattered songs but just to spite this dumb rhetorical qn, sure i'll be on gaga's side

"sure I'll be on gaga's side" is not rly much of an argument

"bad romance" is at least as good whatever m.i.a.'s best song is

^ this

well I mean that's crazy talk but at least it resembles an argument

I'm actually a pretty big fan of Gaga's choons. At least as much as her theatrics.

Anyway, M.I.A. really isn't as revolutionary and copy-able as she'd like to think she is.

the music sounds like 20-year-old Ibiza music

Not entirely, but she's bringing dece devil's advocate game here tbfh.

also, i'm no m.i.a. hater by any means but

She’s not progressive, but she’s a good mimic…

YOUR PRODUCER IS DIPLO

Boring hates on boring.

annoying self-important beep-boop artist criticizes some person

User of thirty year old sample criticizes twenty year old sound.

Without making any sort of statement on the quality of her work, I will say lady gagas stuff is a mix of enough different pre-existing things to be something new. I get the ibiza or whatever influence but none of the stuff people reference actually sounds exactly like her. and was what madonna or grace jones doing in their time really completely detached from and lightyears ahead of the dance pop of the time in a way that gagas is not? actually I kind of would like to have an answer to that.

is anyone really surprised that the daughter of a terrorist would strangle lady gaga to death with her bare hands?

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/04/mia_on_lady_gaga_none_of_her_m.html#comments

lol what does this mean?

And on top of all that, M.I.A. is married to a trust funder who lives in Bed Stuy "just because."

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By bkgirlll on 04/07/2010 at 5:04pm

Wanna know why MIA doesn't like Lady Gaga? Because Lady Gaga = THREAT

damn what happened to that free pass with hipsters

if hipsters these days dig either L.G. or MIA, i truly fear for the future of hipsterosity. get yr act together!

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/07/catfight.jpg

What does Christina think about these developments???

what's so great about GaGa again? I'm being serious.

she's made at least one undeniably great song and is kind of fun to follow

i dug Bad Romance...but I thought everyone was over her by now?

Anyone who argues that Lady Gaga is better than MIA is going to make me turn into a combination of the Incredible Hulk and Alex in NYC.

I would argue that they're both creatively superior to a lot of their peers, and that I, personally, enjoy listening to Gaga slightly more than M.I.A. (who I think is coming across as a total bitch in this situation).

I think Gaga is talanted, her style is just v v much not my style.

Respect to her, she’s keeping a hundred thousand people in work, but my belief is: Do It Yourself.”

Respect to M.I.A., she's keeping a thousand people in work, but her belief is that nobody should aspire to top-40 dominance.

this snippet of the article sounds more like MIA vs Music Industry.

This is great and all.. wait no it is dull and we aren't asking the real questions. What's HATER from? Love v. money outtake? It's dooooooope.

can I just point out how bizarre it is to see the word "ethering" in a mainstream newspaper?

http://www.indiecrush.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/marcjacobsdx3.jpg
K E E P I T R E A L

DO YOU SEE THE NAKED MEN FEEDING HER APPLES NO I DIDNT THINK SO

love a lot of her music, but m.i.a. has always been a div. though this was pretty much my opinion of lady gaga a year ago, so it's not that bad by her standards. HOWEVER the la times replaced this completely delusional quote with an ellipsis, suggesting they know perfectly well she's being a div (and why is the la times linking to oh no they didn't?!) - "She sounds more like me than I fucking do!" - uhhh

a) if lady gaga is mimicking anyone it's...definitely not m.i.a.
b) having just dismissed lady gaga's music as ibiza house, what's m.i.a. saying about her own music?

she’s the industry's last stab at making itself important - saying, ‘You need our money behind you, the endorsements, the stadiums.’

lol it took the trailer of a rubbish film to get you to a roughly similar place in the industry.

anyone gonna argue that lady gaga is is making more interesting music than mia?

it wouldn't be a weird argument to make. i like 'em about the same, m.i.a. wins in terms of quantity (duh) but gaga is more exciting right now. also, i don't think you're one to be accusing people of not arguing properly, given that your tactic all the damn time is to act like your argument is duh obvious and you don't actually need to defend it.

xpost

this is my little pony VS rainbow brite

lex she might be referring directly to the Wale song that EVERYBODY thinks sounds like Gaga doing an imitation of M.I.A. and not her music in general

What film was m.i.a.'s music in?

slumdog millionaire

i'd totally forgotten that wale existed :(

yes ! just watched it the other day

not that i partic love this song but i cant think of any other singer in pop currently who could pull off partic. the opening bars of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0U3E9zCWcg

And 'pop' is nothing so much as a collision between sound and image, otherwise known as music and fashion. You can't pry them apart from each other no matter what genre of popular music we're discussing and it would be unwise to try.

"pop (or in your case fashion)" was throwing a bone to your supposed credentials, not a diss.

she has a great speaking accent too 50% wicklow 50% london

there's a bit of sheffield in there too! and yeah she's terrific live - seen her twice, once at sónar (but after the ruby blue album - overpowered made her a lot more of a "pop star") and once at koko after overpowered, where she'd really gone all out on the costumery, stagecraft etc.

i actually quite like moloko's first album! but their third, when they just went str8-up ibiza disco (hey m.i.a.) was easily their best, and róisín's come into her own as a solo artist.

this is her latest amazing track btw, with crookers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mzWFt5e1mk

i think one thing gaga & minaj do with the murphy/mia steez is make it appeal to wide swathes of not particularly cool very young girls in a deliberate pop ploy

yeah i guess, though i think both come from more populist backgrounds (despite what gaga claims) than art-school m.i.a. or róisín, whose first band were (sort of bizarrely) lumped in with trip-hop by the press and whose background is clearly in 90s underground dance culture.

oh as for róisín's commercial traction, it's close to none - her biggest two hits were in 2000 with moloko, as a solo artist she's had a couple of minor charting singles but nothing like a proper hit - frustrating in the light of last year's infestation of way inferior british quirky girls (florence & the machine, la roux). she's currently without a deal, just given birth, randomly released "momma's place" herself this year to little or no fanfare.

(the royalties off those moloko hits - "sing it back" and "the time is now" - apparently mean she's loaded and can afford to do whatever the hell she likes career-wise.)

it feels really weird as somebody who went to art school/hung out w/ fashion students, i genuinely thought roisin murphy and m.i.a. were household names (that is, the music ppl played at parties was 30% mainstream rnb 30% mia/murphy/theknife/santogold and 30% lol 80s/old house music/prince - spose i thought they were all equally mainstream)

sing it back is ridic awes

it all 'pends on who u hang out with bro

I feel guilty for helping derail this thread into talk about Róisín, but she's just so easy to gush about. Overpowered is one of the few flawless albums released anytime recently in any genre.

("Momma's Place" is quite strange, as was "Orally Fixated," but I hope she makes whatever kind of album she wants next. I'm along for the ride.)

m.i.a. has roughly 900% more exposure in the u.s. than roisin murphy

clearly!

The only people in the US who know who she is are people that bought the first Moloko album and serious UK pop stans.

(And a few people who gave Ruby Blue a spin because of the Matthew Herbert production.)

ah shit handsome boy modeling school...i didn't know she went that far back

Overpowered is one of the few flawless albums released anytime recently in any genre.

Not flawless, but one of the few I look forward to playing. 2007 was a very good year.

First Moloko album = 1995. xp

yeah overpowered is so much better than ruby blue, tho i thought the opposite for a long time

ahhh, handsome boy modeling school, THAT's where i'd heard the name before!

i love finding shit like this on YT tho - high school drama kids dancing to Ramalama Bang Bang at a pep rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaErh8_IKkE

ok this http://i41.tinypic.com/eufp0w.gif + "overpowered" is hilarious and mesmerizing

never paid much attention to Roison Murphy before, but those videos are great!

hot chix sure do get the ILMers posting!

roisin is v v pretty

Lady Gaga /= hot

gay for roisin over here

would do all 3

very happy that this thread is so roisin-heavy.

I like Gaga and love MIA but yeah, I too would rather talk/read about Roisin

lol @ u dudes sleepin on RM

more lols: @ dan for telling surm that a song cant be weird bcuz its melodic structure isnt unusual

yeah, because roisin murphy is such an unavoidable persona here

I still haven't heard anything about her that makes me interested in checking her out

There are several youtube embeds up there. All you have to do is press a button.

rev: in the uk moloko's 'the time is now' and 'sing it back' are two of the most ubiquitous tracks of the 00s (arguably)... actually that's not a recommendation is it? basically if you're interested in great singers, songs, music, &c., you may like her.

She really is one of the best vocalists to emerge from the mid-90s. Like, unambiguously quality top to bottom.

sorry deej

i think what make's roisin's voice so captivating is that it reflects a few different styles of song. it sounds like a strong, incensed combination of various themes.

MIA launches fresh attack on Lady Gaga

MIA has laid into Lady GaGa again after US TV presenter Oprah Winfrey praised the 'Poker Face' singer.

Maya Arulpragasam vented her anger after Winfrey apparently gave her the cold shoulder at this year's Metropolitan Ball in New York.

"[Winfrey] made this huge speech at the ball praising Lady GaGa about how she is helping Americans to be the best of themselves," MIA explained. "There's millions of other Americans who represent that for me. Is [it] about numbers? About how much you're selling? Is it truly about the journey? Because [Lady GaGa's] journey isn't that difficult: to go from the fucking Upper East Side to a fucking performing arts school and onto a stage at the museum of fucking wherever. That journey's about four miles."

She also said she was angry with the TV presenter for her attitude towards her at the bash.

"Oprah seemed like she was giving me the cold shoulder," MIA told Time Out. "She was with [David Bowie's wife] Iman. Iman was always dancing with me, hugging and kissing me, but Oprah seemed really pissed off with me."

The rapper and singer previously accused Gaga of ripping off the work of artists like Madonna and Grace Jones, calling her \"a good mimic\".

http://www.nme.com/news/mia/52256

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This time it doesn't seem like much, other than some reporter trying to get a snappy quote. But also, LOL at Iman and Oprah bro-ing down all night.

all I want to do is take your money and then complain that it is all about the money

Maya's clearly the only person who realizes how important she is. We should all be ashamed.

she brings the lolz, what more could I ask for

all I want to do is take your money BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM ch-CHING... and then complain that it is all about the money

― Dominique, Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:53 PM Bookmark

being super-catty, the mark of the working class

making it very hard to enjoy u, maya

i don't pay attention much to MIA, did she say anything at all about the gruesome end of the sri lankan civil war last year?

yeah, Oprah's right!--Lady Gaga's making us all better people...

she did

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/05/does_mia_suppor.php

http://www.theonion.com/articles/lady-gaga-kidnaps-commissioner-gordon,17789/

has Oprah heard about this yet?!

too busy giving cars away to Tom Cruise, I heard