Looking back, what's the biggest bullshit, musically speaking, that you fell for in the 90s

only ilxors who were actively listening to music in the 90s can post itt, all of you pokemon card-carrying 90s babies can post about the vines in the other thread iirc

anyway can i just

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god where to begin. i was young in the 90s.

I cant wait to see all the britpop mentioned on this thread

nu-metal. first gig i went to see was korn supported by helmet and limp bizkit. think it was the day of the 1997 general election. lol 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEKbFMvkLIc&feature=channel

reel talk

oh man i want to participate but this will be so so painful to recall

WHATS UP COLLEGE YEARS

Ska-punk. Sublime. The Specials reunion album. Any ska that was not made by Jamaicans.

hey jim a friend of mine, who i think was at the same school as you, was at that gig. I loaned him my Helmet cds and he ended up enjoying them more than the other two.

None of my choices really count because there is still one album by them that I will defend forever (in the case of Cranes, possibly two, had I ever gotten around to getting Wings of Joy).

But yeah, Cranes and Sky Cries Mary. In both cases, I was captivated by live performances, bought albums that I loved, then bought another album that was literally among the worst music ever recorded on Earth.

xxp: I bought a 311-album, but it didn't sound as good as when I heard it stoned in that t-shirt store in Myrtle Beach.

The incentive to 'fake it till you make it' was much greater iirc. It was like 'ok I just spent this month's entertainment budget on this, there is NO WAY IT CAN SUCK'.

My answer from about '95-'99 is 'i had a subscription to The Wire' >:(

part of me wants to say Beck but dude didn't actually become unbearably awful until Modern Guilt

i think maybe we should swing this thread towards "critical faves" so it's not just "I had bad taste when I was 15, the thread"

that being said, i remember falling for the Spin Doctors because Rolling Stone and MTV had convinced me they were like cutting-edge, next level alternative rock.

Also, i haven't broken out my Soul Coughing albums in like 10 years and I have a good feeling they may be bullshit.

it is somewhat fortuitous though that this topic was posted two weeks after I ripped into iTunes about 30 different trip-hop/drum n bass comps that I listened to twice and then threw into a gigantic box for 13 years

I still love most of the music I listened to in the 90's. Flying Nun and Xpressway records, Ajax, those shrimper records tapes, Krautrock, but there was Liz Phair's first album.

only beck i liked was mellow gold. Thankfully i never bought into the whole JSBX shit as i realised they were shit. But I'd expext to see them mentioned on this thread.

can I just say with full honesty that when I was a li'l kid back in the 90's Kula Shaker and Ocean Colour Scene were great favourites of mine

Kula Shaker!!!!

Also, i haven't broken out my Soul Coughing albums in like 10 years and I have a good feeling they may be bullshit.

Those hold up really, really well, especially El Oso

didnt you like the bluetones too?
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Also Dodgy, but I still think Free Peace Sweet isn't nearly as bad as everyone thinks, Good Enough apart

I only saw their cd in a store once and laugh, but I did like Cornershop's first album which might compare?

def guilty of the ska-punk mistake, lots of really 4th tier industrial garbage, some TERRIBLE endpoint rave tracks, oh ugh the list just goes on and on and on

xpost hahaha i was just going to mention the diminishing returns of JSBX! first heard the remix disc (which i still really dig) and went out and bought all the stuff i could find, only to slowly realize months later that i kind of hated it all.

oh man wait was combustible edison a 90's thing? if so def that

What would be 4th tier Industrial?

I saw Cast live supporting someone then again at t in the park, they were really good live, bought the album when it came out and it was fucking horrible. I think I knew then Britpop wasnt really for me apart from blur,oasis,pulp,suede.

And I didnt buy the 2nd Black Grape album thankfully but i will always rep for the 1st album.

hey John, remember this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_G16ge4FYY

although lol I still actually really, really dig that track

did someone cut Henrik's tongue off?

gonna stay away from post-grunge and "alternative rock" proper cause we'd just be here too long, but owning a korn record, a squirrel nut zippers record, a pitchshifter record--def low points

oh yeah now its coming back to me, all that neo-lounge stuff is maybe more embarrassing than the stuff i already listed, fucking leopard print smoking jackets arrhghghh

How many fellow euros bought this and aren't embarrassed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_e_64qoK3s

atari teenage riot doesn't hold up particularly well

YES IT DOES

oh man

who was the group who did that song about stopping off in a phone booth or whatever with the ridiculously long song title? their album was TERRIBLE

primitive radio gods

YES

These threads all suck.

hahah it's amazing to me that there was an entire cd that accompanied that song

which reminds me:
cottonmouth texas
mc 900 foot jesus

all other sorta spoken word "electronica" of the '90s, even if it did give us scroobius pip in the long run

sorry, dan le sac vs scroobius pip

CONSOLIDATED is another one where the stuff I have, I still really like and support, but WOW did they become terrible

4th tier industrial is a random term that popped into my head to refer to all the digital hardcore garbage i chomped down without noticing it was pretty much stupid and no good. bunch of xposts

still love the first mc 900 foot jesus record

all that funk stuff--there was funk everywhere

i think i saw consolidated live like 7 times. WHY?

also: Jesus Jones.

I love the 1st and 2nd MC 900 Ft Jesus albums.

Atari Teenage Riot and Christoph de Babylon are fucking great but pretty much everyone else on DHR is hot garbage.

fair amount of acid jazz nonsense like Young Disciples, this series
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/61b26d57160ca8bf4497fcaaf8b534d6/66099.jpg

that's about it tho really. there's indie/grunge stuff I don't really listen to anymore (fugazi, Nirvana, etc.) but I don't think any of it was "bullshit" per se, I've just kinda grown out of needing that particular angsty/angry stuff around.

Where I fell for almost nothing in the 00's and have zero regrets, the exact opposite is true about the 90's. I fell for pretty much everything in the 90's, because I wasn't old enough to know better.

As of the past 6 months, I love Sebadoh more than ever, so they are anything but bullshit.

3rd eye blind are a legitimately very good band who have made one great album

all of you pokemon card-carrying 90s babies can post about the vines in the other thread iirc

Oasis. Although I am still a 'Definitely Maybe' apologist.

I listened to 40oz to Freedom a whole lot and had never smoked weed or drank or anything, I just really liked the music. Recently revisited it and it was kind of embarrassing...

Kula Shaker for me as well.

new age music w/ hip hop beats

that Enigma album is still dope imo

how about Deep Forest, then?

haven't heard that in an age. suspect I'd still dig it.

re: third eye blind, spin doctors, hootie -- I don't remember anyone championing these bands as anything other than innocuous background music, nothing like the weird cult of dave matthews.

For about 3 minutes in Holland, watching MTV Europe and seeing video after video of twee pop, the Spin Doctors' "Two Princes" sounded so...substantial. If that makes any sense. It was less a matter of liking the song than of some recognition of cultural differences in musical approaches yadda yadda yadda, but it shocked me that that song would come as a breath of fresh air.

3rd eye blind are a legitimately very good band who have made one great album

Don't forget, 3EB are also as DIY as Fugazi, if not more so!

I started listening to New Found Glory with the sole intent of impressing a girl who was into the whole "emo" thing, shortly before emo reached goth levels of subculture dilution/erosion. Amazingly, quoting shit like "I can't dream anymore since you've gone / I miss you singing me to sleep" didn't get me laid.

Oh yeah! I remember being really into "From Screen to Stereo" when that came out. Think that was 2000s tho....

Liz Phair
Spin Doctors definitely (hated them at first, worked in a record store where the LP was spun so often I began to like it, bought it for younger sister for birthday as intro to "alternative" stuff, she called me on that BS soon after & I saw the light)
Royal Trux and all that Drag City stuff
There was a song by a band called The Men that earwormed me

but #1 winnah! is
Palace Brothers(altho I could still probably get behind a 45-minute CD of their/his best songs, all the rest is lazy croaky faux-backwoods neo-bullshit and I cannot forgive him his 00s 'freak-folk' spawn)

"For about 3 minutes in Holland, watching MTV Europe and seeing video after video of twee pop, the Spin Doctors' "Two Princes" sounded so...substantial."

wait, you must tell us of this twee pop against which Two Princes sounds like Rambo!

first things that come to mind for me are:

Marilyn Manson, who did eventually do some good songs, but to me that first album is just unlistenable today.

post-Exit Planet Dust trip hop such as Crystal Method, anything on Moonshine, and all Chemical Bros after they stopped using break loops, and started programming their own. I was into this stuff before I discovered Ninja Tune and quickly realized how awful the stuff was. For that matter, I agree with a few above that Ninja Tune itself got pretty bad (once they started hyping the shit out of Mr Scruff I stopped following the label), and even the best stuff doesn't stand the test of time very well.

EBM/goth siht - anything other than VNV Nation and Apoptygma Berzerk's first few albums was pure ass, and even that stuff doesn't hold up very well imo. The time I scraped change together to buy a Læther Strip CD based on some idiot's recommendation was not only the end of my EBM phase, but when I first started actively seeking mp3s before buying albums.

industrial thrash crossover: Skrew, Fear Factory, one or two albums by Frontline Assembly, Skinny Puppy's 'The Process' (ugh), and of course Rammstein. I guess this was more, for me, that it just never met my expectations. I loved metal, I loved Skinny Puppy, so it seemed natural they should meet.

Containe, maybe, emblematic of the whole idea of following the obscure side-projects of indie-rockers.

leave Kenickie alone i'm warning yers.

all Chemical Bros after they stopped using break loops, and started programming their own.

Still dig these guys.

Smashing Pumpkins, Placebo..... Jocasta?

I kept buying albums by The Mission (or The Mission UK to pedantics) into the early 90's well after I should have abandoned ship. One could credibly argue that I shouldn't have bought any albums by the Mission, but that's a separate thread.

(once they started hyping the shit out of Mr Scruff I stopped following the label)

This is, for the most part, on the money. I'd make a notable exception for DJ Food's Now Listen comp, which actually featured a use of "Ug" underneath Motion Man's "Terrorist" that I think is pretty dope.

Two words: Wax Trax

A lot of bad CanCon stuff: Our Lady Peace, Rusty, I Mother Earth, Big Sugar, The Tea Party... if it had guitars and MuchMusic played it, I was in.

^I'm so sorry.

Altho I'll still rep for some of the earlier Big Sugar tracks. Their version of "Wild Ox Moan" alone forgives them many sins.

Big Sugar is still the loudest band I've ever seen live.

A list a mile wide here:

*Shaquille O'Neal's rap albums
*Aerosmith (srsly Get a Grip is soooooo bad)
*Genesis's "The Way We Walk" live album volume 2, The Shorts, and the I Can't Dance material
*Rap without explicit lyric labels (cuz my mama wouldn't let me have it so I tried to find what I could that wasn't and it was crap like DJ Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince's "Code red" album)
*Sevendust (their s/t blows)
*Van Halen 3

^ winner

post Richey Manics Street Preachers - there are some good tracks on "Everything Must Go", but the lyrics are garbage and then there was the whole "private toilet at Glastonbury" debacle

re: shaq, I liked (and still like) can we rock what's up doc, but at no time did I feel like Shaq was trying to dupe me -- did he have some campaign to be taken seriously as a rapper that I missed?

i like that song cuz of the Fu Schnickens verses. as far as I know, Shaq didn't seem to think his rap was as silly as the general populace did, given the fact that after his first album, he got uber serious with stuff like "Biological Didn't Bother" rather than keeping the 'jokey' atmosphere from the first (god I feel bad knowing this much about a shaq album, much less two!)

I do have a pretty soft spot in my heart for (Phil is my father/My) "Biologicals Didn't Bother."

EBM/goth siht - anything other than VNV Nation and Apoptygma Berzerk's first few albums was pure ass

You sound like my roommate circa 2001-2002!

When i was a kid I was really into Vanilla Ice, up until TMNT2. Also MC Hammer. Though I think MC Hammer is still cool, Ice is a complete tool. Except for "Havin' a Roni". LOL

Dave Matthews Band. Not so much that they're "bullshit" but I was convinced they were next level shit or something.

Two words: Wax Trax

The record store in Denver?

really like that place, went the only time I've ever been to Denver

Yeah, since Twist & Shout sprouted up a mile away though they've been losing a lot of business. They still have the best as far as used vinyl goes, and the couple guys who work there aren't even close to being fucking hipsters. Just music lovers.

oh that blows -- I spent quite a bit of money there the only time I was there.

Kenickie are still magnificent.

never heard of kenickie til a couple weeks ago a nice song came up on lastfm. im moved to sample the rest of their stuff i guess.

Kenickie are still magnificent.

Sublime and every band following.

For a while, I might have responded Kula Shaker, but I have relistened to the "K" album and found it is actually a great album. Surely it wasn't the next big thing like some thought for a couple months in 1996, but it's still pretty good, and the other albums they have released afterwards aren't all that bad either.

Using swastikas obviously was no good idea though, even though I am sure he was right he was only using them because they were a much used Asian symbol.

You know, Space should fall into this category but for a mid-tier post-Britpop band, they weren't too bad at all.

ha I was going to mention Space but I don't really find them embarrassing

Skinny Puppy's 'The Process' (ugh)

FYI they got good again after this album

Opening track of The Process is awesome. Not sure about the rest of it.

I was also enamored with Mansun (ugh, horrible name for a band).