Which "Listening Club" is of least interest to you?

I wd like a listening club for really slow lazy people, cz I was pretty psyched to listen along with the first week of several of these, except I still haven't heard the first week albums and I'm not even looking at the 2nd week ones

I'd rather there was a listening club started that would suit my taste in music

This would be the least interest to me.

cool, this poll reaches the obvious and correct conclusion that everyone wants in on the classical club

Metal. Actually, I was already in two "metal listening clubs" via roommate who adored Metallica and Slayer in the 80s, and later a record store gig with coworker who was into stuff like Prong. So I've tried repeatedly, and do not like.

I guess Metal, but it's not like I'm proud of that or anything.

Metal isn't music. It's a coping mechanism for people who can't deal otherwise.

*sets the trap for pfunkboy and waits*

Jazz is boring. Didn't somebody start a classical club? That too.

I'd love to participate in them all but alas I don't have time. Except prog, I can happily live in a world without prog.

One of the first three. Voted hip-hop.

geir hongro doesn't care about black people

lol at poll idea

i kinda want to start a 70's hard rock and disco club.

"One of the first three. Voted hip-hop."

So Geir thinks there's merit in funk? I had no idea.

"i kinda want to start a 70's hard rock and disco club."

Is that one club for both?

yes.

i would like for someone to tell me how to access spotify in the US because even the listening part is arduous when i don't have the album already.

i tried using some online directions but they lead to dead links :(

album name + mediafire.com/megaupload.com

Jazz.

i kinda want to start a 70's hard rock and disco club.

DON'T TALK ABOUT IT
JUST DO IT
DO IT
IT'S ROCK & ROLL AND THE MESSAGE IS
DO IT
DO IT

metal listening club is obviously the best one because it's the one that inspired all the copycats

probably (sadly) jazz

metal

which of these clubs has the best snacks.

^ had to be asked

this poll sucks

the state of the board today

On the plus side, I felt bad about my vote and now I'm listening to Kyuss.

album name + mediafire.com/megaupload.com
i am aware of how to do this, but i don't really want to commit to storing all of these albums or going through the trouble of downloading them

i want spotify!

So Geir thinks there's merit in funk?

Funk is so much. There is some funk that I strongly despise (i.e. James Brown), but also some that I really like (i.e. 70s Herbie Hancock).

Prog, probably.

I always marvel at your James Brown loathing, Geir. Some of his work is sublime to me.

I was thinking of starting a Country Club, but then I'd have to exclude many of you.

Why?

I'd rather there was a listening club started that would suit my taste in music - reggae/dub/dancehall :-( Of the choices probably metal or hip-hop.

I was thinking of starting a Country Club, but then I'd have to exclude many of you.

― President Keyes

looooool joek

hard rock is some of my favorite music ever but imo metal is where it goes to die and get monochromatic and annoying, so i'm voting for metal

some dude, do you like any metal?

Oh wait LEAST. Definitely prog.

I'd rather there was a listening club started that would suit my taste in music - reggae/dub/dancehall

there was some talk about doing that in the original genre poll thread that spawned all the new clubs. I've been thinking about starting it (though I also thought brotherlovesdub was going to?), but would want to wait about a month since i'm going on vacation in late May. Also, I'm not quite sure how to handle it: albums/comps? where to start? etc

Comps are albums too! Or we could do riddims!

Why?

Uber-genius that I am I just got this...

I was going to do it. Then all the others popped up, plus the 1990s poll and some shit about a viking and i've lost the drive to start it. If someone wants to start it, don't wait for me. If it was up to me, i'd wait until the other clubs died off a bit so it wasn't so overwhelming.

I think I suggested a geographical theme somewhere on that thread - caribbean music club could be great, though cramming all that into one might be a bit ambitious

I didn't even realize these things were happening until like today.

Compilations are essential in reggae, in my opinion.

hmm I would totally be down for a Country Club. Assuming Jews are allowed. And no one makes me listen to Big and Rich

We could make that thread where I ramble endlessly about 14 Just Ragga compilations the Dancehall Club lol.

Oh yeah, I'm not sure why I said that: I could barely participate in it without comps. I was thinking today a riddim format would be pretty fun, but then i'm only half decent at recognizing riddims. Plus it would have to be all youtube then, no? And maybe annoying to non-fans? Or I could be overthinking the shit out of this?

"I'd wait until the other clubs died off a bit so it wasn't so overwhelming." was basically what I decided, but feel free to start one now Alex!

Someone should do a reggae/dub/ska/dancehall thread.

some dude, do you like any metal?

― ksh, Friday, April 30, 2010 4:43 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

most of what little metal i like is either early/proto metal British bands, or the kind of popular stuff that serious metal fans turn their nose up at (Black Album Metallica, System of a Down).

fair enough! (i'm a metal fan, and i like Black Album and the SoaD that i've heard)

we have another club Reggae/Dub/Dancehall Listening Club

Hey Scott, I know that cheerful irreverence that skirts the line with being a total fucking dick is your thing but would you mind not doing that to me? TIA

I've listened to and liked Emperor, Opeth and Therion; I've mentioned this on ILM before.

Oh shit. Things just got personal.

I'll leave Mordy to explain the philosophies and stuff behind Wolves In The Throne Room and Orphaned Land because he has a better way with words than I have. But they're like the polar opposite of Burzum or NSBM and not in a cack-handed RATM way (who are also "metal")

"Hey Scott, I know that cheerful irreverence that skirts the line with being a total fucking dick is your thing but would you mind not doing that to me?"

okay, dan, no problem! sorry. i'll steer clear of you. you and matos. that's actually not that bad a list considering i've been here for eight years.

aw what happened with you and matos? two of my ilm faves. :(

hey guys another new club to join! KRAUTROCK Listening Klub! - Week One : 5-11 May

It's not "steer clear" as much as it is "read the situation and don't make glib jokes that aren't going to go over well".

I mean I don't know what response you thought "haha you're so sensitive, lol @ u" was going to evoke given the shit I've been talking about here but it's kind of a no-brainer that it wasn't going to be positive.

you're right. i apologize.

i used to love her is fucking awesome even if common is now a dickhead.

sam you want in krautrock klub?

oh lol, sorry: apology accepted! I got distracted because I realized I'd brought a 12-pack home and forgotten to put it away

Bookmarked but fucking hell these are getting a bit too much.

It should be noted that Emperor's Ihsahn is a big Nietzsche fan. He's stated that he doesn't hold truck with the Nazi thing, but it does make your criteria a little shaky. My problem with your argument is that it's based entirely on external factors. If you don't like how metal sounds, that's fine, and a totally legitimate reason not to explore it. But to dislike the entire genre because a few fringe personalities have troubling beliefs is some high-level BS. And I understand the life experience part of it, but eventually you have to get over it. I mean, I hated the jackasses in high school who loved Phish and other jam bands, but as it turns out, 10 years later, I discovered that The Grateful Dead aren't all that bad. It sounds like your experience was worse, but seriously -- time to move on.

Dan, you should read up on Wolves In The Throne Room and Orphaned Land. Also jj likes metal so I cant see why you hate metal through bad experiences when your best mate is into metal and is nothing like those guys, not to mention the ilx metal fans who are not like them either.

LOL, for a good long while I was a big Nietzsche fan! It really bothered the ppl in my college German class.

pfunk, you didn't know the other kids we went to high school with. When jj says he knows where I'm coming from, it's because he also grew up where I did.

I want to reiterate (or possibly baldly state something that I might have let lie as implication) that this is all basically me saying why the metal listening room is the least appealing to me as opposed to an all-out shunning of METAL. I don't go out of my way to seek it, but I don't run away from it when it's presented to me. I still manage to live a happy life.

i think part of the problem here (which i totally accept) is that metal largely wears its "extremity" on its sleeve, so yer going to get a lot of douchey peeps out there that glom on to the bullshit aspects of over the top thematic stuff, and some of that ends up being problematic - ie the swastika sousxie stuff within early punk, boyd rice industrial, virulent mysogynistic rap, etc that happens in any genre that takes some of its motivation from being outside the norm. i mean shit, the imagery on a lot of zorn stuff is completely o_O, and thats sophisticated jazzbo stuff.

pfunk, you didn't know the other kids we went to high school with. When jj says he knows where I'm coming from, it's because he also grew up where I did.

yeah I realise that.

do you have to do extensive research on an artist before you buy a record? seems like it would take a lot of time.

sadly, i do this. it does take a lot of time -- too much, i think.

(btw my parallel wrt to this and growing up where we did is my inability to give southern rock a moment of my time, because that is way more rooted in associated racism for me than metal.)

ie the swastika sousxie stuff within early punk, boyd rice industrial, virulent mysogynistic rap,

but dan listens to industrial and rap but doesn't dismiss it like he does with metal! He knows it isn't all like that, so he should know it's the same with metal.

I DO KNOW THAT. How many times do I have to preface my statements with "I know this is unreasonable and unfair"?

right, and i know that he does, but there isnt the personal association there - i mean we def didnt know any copenhagen hat wearing boyd rice fans in HS

xpost

my inability to give southern rock a moment of my time, because that is way more rooted in associated racism for me than metal.

I dont care for southern rock because pretty much the stuff I've heard I just do not like. Being Scottish i dont really know the racism that goes with it because I've never met any americans from the south who are into it/like that.
Prob the same way as dan doesnt hate happy hardcore because of a lot of the knobs in Scotland who love it.

i mean i just finally listened to led zeppelin for the first time (uh non-osmosiswise) in the past few years because of the shit people we grew up with that dug them - all im saying is that these sorts of associations are hard to shake, and if you dont feel like shaking them, well, thats fine really.

I dont really know much about Boyd Rice but I did always avoid Death In June because I wasn't sure about the whole thing, so I guess I was ignorant over that.

lol basically the gateway for both of us into industrial music was the dance charts in Rolling Stone combined with a mixtape made for me by one of my brother's college friends; Death In June wasn't anywhere near the radar and by the time I found out about that stuff I was like 20.

in a similar vein i really used to like some m0mu5 records until the recent point on ilx where he showed clearly that he was a giant insensitive cock, and all the cajoling in the world isnt going to make me run out and buy or listen to whatever shit hes shoveling out at this point.

xpost boyd took the playful naziism card to a pretty full extent, and performance art or no, not feeling too good about the dude (although he def has circulated in my beloved NWW/Current 93 sphere quite a bit and i dont begrudge them that).

so he isnt a neo nazi then?

(xp) you were always way more into NWW/Current 93 than I was; maybe in my DNA I just knew

how do people not like prog rock? lets take one album King Crimson - Red for instance

I suggested 3 albums to a work buddy who never heard any progrock. Red, Lark's, and Close to the Edge

granted that I don't care to join any fucking listening club
except maybe a 'ilxor's make mixes of their fav songs' listening club

Aren't you guys from Minneapolis?? Is/was it way nastier than I always imagined it to be?

(Sorry if that came off as insensitive. Was actually wondering but it's not my business or anything.)

nah we met in a small town with fairly rural roots in southern MN, so uh like any other rural midwestern town really. bigots and unfamiliarity and such

Yeah, we were 45 min from downtown St Paul from our parents' houses, but that meant out in the middle of the woods with gravel roads and cow/sheep/bison farmers. The town/suburb where we went to high school was such that people were afraid of going into the Twin Cities because of "all the crime" (this was around the time that there were something like 10 murders a year across both Minneapolis and St Paul).

gah I should finish my thoughts before hitting send:

In most cases, "all the crime" was code for "more than 10 non-white people".

sounds nasty

and yet, I also met some of the best people in the world there

lol @ the idea that "reading about wolves in the throne room" is suddenly going to make dan interested in metal

that wasn't the idea, it was to show him that not all black metal bands have the same philosophies as varg vikernes.

he knows

Not in any of these clubs, but more power to them. Nevertheless, somebody should fix Wayne Shorter's name in the title of the Jazz one.

lol hadn't noticed that

In most cases, "all the crime" was code for "more than 10 non-white people".

― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Thursday, May 6, 2010 5:52 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Gaaaaaaah. I hate this kind of coded speech so much.

is funk club best by default then?

Aren't you guys from Minneapolis?? Is/was it way nastier than I always imagined it to be?

― Sundar, Thursday, May 6, 2010 3:25 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i live in minneapolis, south, and i think it's on the whole a pretty nice and safe city...there definitely is crime...though sadly i bet about 80 percent of all the murders happen in a 20 square block region in north minneapolis, which is totally dysfunctional and depressing (though there are nice pockets in north even)

Guys, for future reference, ahmagonna change these thread titles to Rolling X Listening club. Or you can start new threads.

― i never promised you a whinegarten (forksclovetofu),

The ILX Mods it would seem want us to start a new thread each week for the club rather than having to update all thread titles.

Now if you don't have a thread title with the new choices, people simply don't click on the thread and there will be less discussion. They need to know its updated.
So should we have a new thread each week for each listening club?

i promise i wont click either way