Most ridiculous "news" item on Pitchfork regarding the horribly overhyped crapfest known as The National's High Violet

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So... you don't like it?

except wavves was about a lame dude going nuts and this is just about a band putting out a record?

Yes, but do we really need, on average, a weekly update on the National's new album?

give the ppl what they want

whogivesashit.jpg

won't someone think of the pageviews

i mean, at least they're releasing music and not getting fucked up and trying to play shows in spain

The Antlers to Tour With the National (2/16)

this one cuz who gives a shit about the antlers

Most ridiculous poll thread tracking "news" items from the horribly overhyped crapfest known as Pitchfork's newsfeed

Everything is overhyped on Pitchfork. Plus, the music industry needs bands that once in a while sell more than 2.000 cds --> Amazon.com Sales Rank: #2 in Music (See Bestsellers in Music)

have you considered not reading pitchfork?

I like the Antlers...

Not a big fan of the dreary, drudgy band 'The National' but has anyone realised that Pitchfork is a daily news site that needs fresh stuff every day. They are not a weekly or monthly publication so can't pick out the best, most interesting thing or weed out the truly inconsequential. This leads to some quite spurious headlines and ridiculous attempts to get attention and interest but that's the nature of this particular beast isn't it? Presumably this band is a pretty popular lot so they just blather about any old thing they do on any old news day. I mean not every day are we going to get a seismic and truly important story such as the recent MIA twitter ramble. These kinds of momentous staggeringly crucial events just don't happen every day.

For what its worth though I think the video of them playing a new song somewhere one day is the most useless. So that.

Never (knowingly) heard them. Probably never will.

I just fast-forwarded through several of their videos on youtube. Would it be accurate to say they sound like Interpol?

a little. less reverb, less faux drama to the lyrics, a somewhat brighter sound.

Sufjan

I've never heard them, but I believe them to be rubbish.

Would it be accurate to say they sound like Interpol?

Interpol is the fratty guy at the bar ordering kamikaze shots for everyone and chatting up the ladies in between doing lines in the bathroom, then driving home drunk. The National is that same guy staggering into the bar the next day around noon, hungover, pissed off at the world, sitting alone in the bar having his first beer of the day, and voicing his thoughts to the pint glass.

How does the pint glass respond?

"You lookin' at me?"

Bitching about a music website for talking about music seems... counter-intuitive.

Interpol is the fratty guy at the bar ordering kamikaze shots for everyone and chatting up the ladies in between doing lines in the bathroom, then driving home drunk. The National is that same guy staggering into the bar the next day around noon, hungover, pissed off at the world, sitting alone in the bar having his first beer of the day, and voicing his thoughts to the pint glass.

Jack says 'people who speak in metaphors should shampoo my crotch'

now I want a pint

http://joefernandes.net/goodfellas_painting.jpg

Matt Berninger looking one way, the pint glass the other.

More to the point, bitching about a site that's largely known/successful for daily updates posting regular items about a popular artist. (xpost)

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8558/wastec.jpg

l-r: [the fire] P4k news stories about The National's new record, ilxor, three of the many whose will to live was obliterated by the madness

a site that's largely known/successful for daily updates posting regular items about a popular artist.

I agree it's good to a point, but there should be a ceiling for how many updates for a single band are actually relevant before the site becomes the National's #1 online liveblog and fanzine.

have you considered not reading pitchfork?

― iatee

l-r: [the fire] P4k news stories about The National's new record, ilxor, three of the many whose will to live was obliterated by the madness

Made me LOL IRL, congrats.

Particularly the doe-eyed indiegrl...

have you considered not reading pitchfork?

― iatee

I've said this before... but, it should be intuitive that I only read the stories that are of interest to me. I haven't spent more than 2 seconds skimming over each of these National-related headlines... it's not like I read everything that Pfork (or any website, for that matter) chooses to publish.

ilxor, the ilxor who cared too much

it should be intuitive that I only read the stories that are of interest to me.

So stop reading National stories. Or read Billboard's news feed.

yeah the best way to show that you don't care about shit is not to start multiple ilx polls about it

mtv.com posts an absurd number of updates about katy perry, nahright.com posts an absurd number of updates about drake, this is the climate we're in whether you love it or hate it. but singling out one site of many for their posts about one artist of many is just goofy and pointless.

free ad-supported website attempts to support itself by drawing more people to its website, ilxor displeased

ilxor, maybe the thing you're reacting to here is the "tastemaker" component to Pitchfork's coverage?

People would rather yell at each other about nothing than actually talk about music on this forum.

Well, the whole site's a tastemaking endeavor, which is fine -- I can't think of a place, online or offline, that really writes in depth about music, but doesn't take a stab at tastemaking, intentionally or not.

That said, posting 17 news stories on one band in a four-month span does seem a bit gratuitous.

xp to HI DERE

People would rather yell at each other about nothing than actually talk about music on this forum.

It's been like that for like five years, lol.

So stop reading National stories.

I don't. As stated above.

Or read Billboard's news feed.

And, btw, I do.

I do, however, start ridiculous polls about National stories, which is arguably a bigger time-wasting endeavor than if I had bothered to actually read the stories like 99% of the Fork-reading population.

So stop reading National stories. Or read Billboard's news feed.

Would read Stylus, but, you know... :/

it's a NEWS FEED. they post, what, hundreds of items in any given month? would you rather there only be one story per artist in a time frame? because if you just want them to update the site less often then you're asking them to be a different kind of site, or go back in time to a different era of the internet. it's not like they posted 10 rave reviews of their album.

some dude otm, there were just as many joanna newsom news stories in the same period, gee I wonder how many vampire weekend stories they did?

ilxor otm, the only thing worse than reading pitchfork is reading a thread like this

this thread is kind of making me appreciate-if-not-respect PF! in a breathless Smash Hitsy kind of way. like how i imagine the british press was before a new duran duran album was gonna come out.

ilxor is certainly otm if he is in fact admitting that his thread is worthless garbage. I only came by to see how many votes this poll got so I know how angry to be when I put thought into an interesting poll about actual music and get less than 18 votes.

Hah, I'll admit the thread is garbage, sure. I also don't know why you're bothering to read/respond. You probably could tell by the thread title that it wasn't going to be interesting, so why bother?

I thought I might find some tracklistings or tourdates here.

top 5 placement of mega-hyped indie band followup is pretty common these days

wait top five is? really? cite a few others 'cause entering BB @ #3 seems pretty incredible.

also lol @ my man some dude thinking polls are for anything but haters - the whole point of a poll is for people who dislike something to vote against that thing so that when the results come in they can go "fuck yeah, I was on the winning side"

"crap" "fest"

evocative title!

j0hn there's no "against" button for voting options -- you can vote for something or not vote at all.

wait top five is? really? cite a few others 'cause entering BB @ #3 seems pretty incredible.

Modest Mouse, Spoon, Vampire Weekend, The Shins.

xpost that's not true - if you vote for one thing, you are voting against everything else on the list - dude you seriously can't disagree with this, people constantly say "voting x so y won't win so easily," etc

I don't know if four examples = "pretty common" though admittedly the sample you'd need is "# of mega-hyped indie bands following up on an album lots of people liked/# of bands who charted @ 5 or higher"

GUYS THE NATIONAL IS CURRENTLY TOURING HOLY SHIT I THINK THIS MAY CALL FOR ANOTHER FRONT PAGE ARTICLE

i'm pretty surprised it ranked that high on the charts, that seems pretty crazy to me. I'm also still kind of blown away that grizzly bear has a song that is on every commercial and tv show.

I only came by to see how many votes this poll got so I know how angry to be when I put thought into an interesting poll about actual music and get less than 18 votes.

― some dude, Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I have similar complaints higher up on this thread. Why the fuck is everyone so obsessed with gossipy TMZ bullshit? Is it unpopular to want to have healthy optimistic discussions about music that you love?

xpost that's not true - if you vote for one thing, you are voting against everything else on the list - dude you seriously can't disagree with this, people constantly say "voting x so y won't win so easily," etc

this is more of a preemptive strike against The Luker Effect or whatev, actually, no hate involved

shit meant to be quoting this:

the whole point of a poll is for people who dislike something to vote against that thing so that when the results come in they can go "fuck yeah, I was on the winning side"

tracklists can be exciting. like when that rumoured smashing pumpkins double-disc tracklist circulated around '97. man i was psyched for that. that shit won't fly in this century, though

luker = lurker, obvs

blogger offended by popularity of national record

I think he just resents Brooklyn.

Which is deep.

I'm not a great fan of the new National record or anything, but I almost want to love it just to spite Lefsetz.

Can't believe we've got this far without mentioning Sufjan Beat. ZOMG.

i hate how my arrow turns into a crosshairs on his lame site

I don't know if four examples = "pretty common" though admittedly the sample you'd need is "# of mega-hyped indie bands following up on an album lots of people liked/# of bands who charted @ 5 or higher"

Yeah I probably should have said "Top 10" though apparently this was like the worst week for sales ever so maybe they would have hit a grizzly-bear-ish 8 if they were up against a big new walmart exclusive or something

and really i'm totally down with Pitchfork being OMG OUR GUY IS COMPETING WITH THEIR GUYS IF BUT FOR A WEEK since I'm all for kids being excited about seeing their favorite nerd band in the top ten, sure made my day as a sprout myself when odelay went double-platinum.

Watch Tame Impala Perform in a Forest

http://pitchfork.com/news/39153-watch-tame-impala-perform-in-a-forest

it's clever see because impalas are generally a grassland animal

I don't read a lot of Pitchfork. But the National make me sick.

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Most ridiculous "news" item on Pitchfork regarding the horribly overhyped crapfest known as The National's High Violet

Watch Tame Impala Perform in a Forest

http://pitchfork.com/news/39153-watch-tame-impala-perform-in-a-forest

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:55 AM (2 hours ago)

seeing that headline on P4k yesterday pretty much affirmed my increasing lack of interest in any of this bullshit, tbh

They may have played in the forest, but they at least edited it together so it looks fake. During one of the songs you clearly watch the drummer play a fill that is not heard. That stuff bothers me, especially when it is so blatant.

always loved this Riff Market piece: http://www.riffmarket.com/2008/10/potential-ideas-in-vein-of-pitchforks.html

to me indie rock was never a genre that was very compatible with visual media -- you might have a decent idea of what a band looked like from a photo in the CD booklet or that one video they showed on 120 Minutes or a hazy memory of seeing them live, and they might've looked really cool or totally lame, but it didn't matter and you probably ended up associating with some cool abstract album cover more than any other visual. now every band has a hundred high res press photos and three videos from every album on youtube and live footage on pitchfork and it's like ugh where you'd get the idea that i want to look at you guys?

really? magazines had photos of indie rock bands to the best of my recollection.

i like "indie rock band you probably like if you read this site performing in a novel location." i always dream of playing shows in unconventional locations, feels pretty romantic

i love blogotheque/take away shows, and i guess this is just pfrok's take on it. nothing offensive about this at all imo

all this whiny self-hating indie guilt has been ruining ilm for me lately btw

all this whiny self-hating indie guilt has been ruining ilm for me lately for the past several years btw

seems inescapable suddenly, or maybe i never noticed it

really? magazines had photos of indie rock bands to the best of my recollection.

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:16 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well sure like Pavement did photo shoots for magazines but i mean just your standard small/medium-sized nat'l indie band that maybe got their album reviewed in the back of the issue

both teflon donk and call all destroyer are OTM.

i keep fighting a good fight though. my user name is positive and i always try to be with the stuff i listen to and post about on this very site. in fact most of the time i don't even open threads like this...

For the record my only complaint was about the editing of that Pitchfork feature above. I've been really excited about this album release, but it either didn't come out when it was scheduled to in the US, or it has no distribution...

Oops, forgot what thread I was in. I meant the Tame Impala album release.

not the National, but

http://pitchfork.com/news/39981-band-of-horses-play-norwegian-wedding/

aw geir got hitched :)

:-D

http://pitchfork.com/news/50467-the-national-to-perform-one-song-over-and-over-for-six-hours-straight-at-moma-ps1-performance/

Kinda wish they'd gotten that indie rock Grateful Dead tribute off the ground.