Late 80s/Early 90s Dance and Pop Songs with that Latin-ish Thing of Going Up and Down an Octave with the Same Chord

As in:
Good Vibrations
Vogue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hPNDl-7iNw

Where did this come from?

Freestyle mebbe?

Or at least that would seem to be the logical link.

that Latin-ish Thing of Going Up and Down an Octave with the Same Chord

seriously cannot figure out what this is supposed to refer to

Me either. Do you mean an arpeggio, or are you talking about the piano chord progressions in the two example songs? I suspect the latter, but the description is misleading because changing the notes you are playing changes the chord, so you are using an incredibly counter-intuitive way of describing what you are talking about; you should have used "interval" instead and even that isn't necessarily going to be the same depending on which notes in the scale are being played.

also don't see what's particularly latin about arpeggiators or melodies jumping octaves, unless its a reference to the syncopation pattern

arpeggiations

I was thinking this meant going from one inversion to another of the same chord or sketching out a triad by playing the top two notes (so it sounds like a minor third of iii) and then the bottom third (so you know you're on I), or vice versa, but I've kind of confused myself trying to work out if this is a thing or not. Keep thinking of things which might do this but actually have a bunch of suspensions thrown in in between.

Any more examples of what you do mean, Eazy?

I was thinking this meant going from one inversion to another of the same chord or sketching out a triad by playing the top two notes (so it sounds like a minor third of iii) and then the bottom third (so you know you're on I), or vice versa, but I've kind of confused myself trying to work out if this is a thing or not. Keep thinking of things which might do this but actually have a bunch of suspensions thrown in in between.

The thing is, neither "Vogue" nor "Good Vibrations" does that!

I thought Vogue did behind the chorus. I was being confused by what Good Vibrations even was, since I could only think of the Beach Boys, but now I've remembered the Funky Bunch thing (is this it?), which doesn't do that either.

Anyway I have no idea what "this" is but thread has triggered a delightful evening of nostalgia while I listen to a bunch of K-Klass tracks on a youtube playlist called "piano house and stuff", so I recommend everyone else do that

lol

Sorry for killing yr thread, Eazy. Here is a K-Klass track with a similar piano sound to the tracks you named. Is it the piano parts we're meant to be listening to or something else?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIzU7_Iavk4

No idea if this is what you had in mind or not, but if it was, get thee to this thread:
100 (or as many as possible) piano house classics, starting with...

If not, errr, sorry for inappropriate embedding on a thread I don't understand.

I'm interpreting this to mean playing a sequence of piano chords up and then down the scale, like Dm-Em-F-Em, in a syncopated Latin-ish rhythm.

interpretations of the thread's initial meaning could morph into a "sleep viking" debate if we're not careful!

as far as doing this with piano in House-based tracks, I assume its just the direct influence of Jazz (if not specifically Latin Jazz) - but Richie Havens 'Going Back To My Roots' sprung to mind as an earlier example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TqOlB3yO8Q

as far as doing this with piano in House-based tracks, I assume its just the direct influence of Jazz (if not specifically Latin Jazz) - but Richie Havens 'Going Back To My Roots' sprung to mind as an earlier example.

― mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:48 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

its lamont dozier's

Captain Jack?

If we're talking about the house piano and its origin, we already had a thread where why tried to solve this, though it didn't get very far:

House Piano

I still think the origin is in Afro-Cuban music, and it got from there to house via disco, but I'm no expert on the subject.

I came close to starting a thread years ago about "early '90s round sounding keyboard House" of the era that Gypsy Woman fits PERFECTLY into (Lisa Stansfield's This Is The Right Time, Black Box's Strike It Up & Everybody, Ce Ce Peniston's We Got a Love Thang, Bizarre Inc.'s I'm Gonna Get You, etc.) but it has more to do with the technology of the era than composition.

Thanks thanks Tuomas.

Also, "Freedom '90" another benchmark example.

Is this just an overelaborately worded way of saying how 90's house tends to have pianos that play the melody with entire chords instead of just notes?

In a way that alternates between a chord made with the left hand and the right hand (Good Vibrations, Freedom '90).

... I am listening to "Good Vibrations" right now and I'm not hearing any alternation between left and right hand whatsoever.

Well, there's a piano solo near the end of the song, but that's not what you're talking about, is it?

Oh, that thing!! Isn't that all over Screamadelica and Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches?

(but yeah the thing you're talking about is all over tracks like "Step On" and "Movin' On Up")

can i jus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG9QrWkcV5I

lol, meanwhile I'm all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW0d6mFqrpM&feature=related

as far as doing this with piano in House-based tracks, I assume its just the direct influence of Jazz (if not specifically Latin Jazz) - but Richie Havens 'Going Back To My Roots' sprung to mind as an earlier example.
-- mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:48 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

its lamont dozier's
-- Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej)

Youtubes:
Lamont Dozier (1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdEwRm-kSJ0

Richie Havens (1980)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMYziXIPodg

just cz I'd heard both around but didn't know what either of them were.

The syncopation on yr classic piano house riff always makes me think of "Take Five" (I mean the first two bass-chord-rest groupings, not the 5/4 rhythm, obv) but that's probably my own musical ignorance more than anything.

house piano fwiw is clearly in a gospel tradition

Y'all are talking the clave rhythm here, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clave_%28rhythm%29

For it's appearance in house, played with a thin electric piano tone, I'd say it's people in Chicago hearing a lot gospel electric piano and salsa. When that feeds into baggy, I've always thought the Stone's "We Love You" had a big influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvlZ3dYEHs0

That Richie Havens song is it, exactly.

Clave!

I'm learning so much! Thank you all for indulging!

clave is a rhythm & has nothing to do w/ pianos

but he is talking about piano

huh, i never knew exactly what this was called either! on piano it's kinda a latin version of a stride

clave is a very specific rhythm and shouldn't be used to just mean "syncopated"

Whatever it's called, the piano part on "Going Back to My Roots" sounds like every song on World Clique minus Groove/Heart, and that's what I was trying to figure out.