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Slayer > reign in blood....Okay I love slayer as much as the next..slayer loving person. I've heard many many fine people (henry rollins & mike patton) praise this fine album..I have tried & tried to love & cherish it as these caring folks have suggested, but I always find myself listening to "south of heaven" "decade of aggression" & "seasons in the abyss" what's wrong with me?

damo, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

im the same way. i like south of heven better.

chaki, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you're a pussy.

your null fame, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm a pussy too. Seasons is my Slayer pick.

Jordan, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The 1987-1990 Slayer albums are somewhat mellower, concentrating more on melody than aggression. Personally I didn't like those albums too much, the obvious "hits" (South Of Heaven, Dead Skin Mask, Seasons In The Abyss) aside, there's too much filler and too many same-y formulaic songs, whereas on the first three albums every track was disctinct. Those two albums should've been 10-15 minutes shorter, and Decade of Aggression, good as it is, contains way too many Seasons songs.

Reign In Blood is not my favourite either though, that would be Show No Mercy. I like the messy Judas-Priest-on-speed ripping-off-our-heroes thing they did there more than the more controlled, crunchier approach of Reign In Blood. But it's still a great album. The really bad stuff came after Decade Of Aggression. Especially Undisputed Attitude and Diabolus In Musica are musical disasters.

And just for some nice reading, some reviews from LARM:
Show No Mercy
Show No Mercy
Haunting The Chapel
Haunting The Chapel
Live Undead
Hell Awaits
Decade Of Aggression
Diabolus In Musica

Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bah! Nothing Slayer did is better than Reign in Blood (arguably NOTHING anyone has EVER done has ever bettered it--it's just SOOOOOOOO mean and aggressive sounding). All their less GRRRRRRRRR albums just sound tepid by comparison.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok I started this whole mess & thanks for helping> Yeah I get the whole more melody driven 'south of heaven' & 'seasons..' reign in blood' is very to the point while the other mentioned l.p's do milk it..but I still like it it's still fresh no matter what you compare it too. I find pre-reign in blood a little to erratic! & I don't know post-seasons..BUT i did see them live a couple of weeks ago & it was fierce.

damo, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

arguably NOTHING anyone has EVER done has ever bettered it--it's just SOOOOOOOO mean and aggressive sounding

Try Absu Tara then, which is basically a hyperactive remake ofReign In Blood with more aggression and speed.

But when it came out, Reign In Blood was indeed one of the most extreme album ever. Listening to it anno 2002 does make it sound a bit tame, but that's 17 years of further development...

But I would say that the songwriting, the riffs and the production are the main reasons why Reign In Blood is so good, not necessarily the evilness/aggression. Of course that wasn't lacking in any sense, but contemporaries like Dark Angel, Kreator, Exodus, Destruction, Sodom, Bathory, Death, Possessed, Morbid Angel etc were more aggressive, faster or more vicious, and most of them were better instrumentalists as well. The great thing about Slayer was that they always wrote well structured, memorably and catchy songs rather than blind exercises in extremity.

Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Raining blood from a lacaerated sky.... genius words and yes this album is arguably one of the best albums ever - period.

Sure it has dated a little, but not so that I couldn't believe it when I heard Angel of Death. Those 15 year old ears were damaged and destined to never hear the same again

I got Morbid Angels Altars of Madness, but that was really Slayer on helium - Chapel of Ghouls aside

I guess I am just locked in nostalgic vision of their sound/time because any thing extreme now is just a derivative of what Slayer.

Unless it is really extreme like Japans Vomit Lunches which is the musical equivalent of Ren and Stimpy and fuck all to do with metal

sonicred, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

any thing extreme now is just a derivative of what Slayer[...]

Great as Slayer are, you can't really give them that much credit. Sure they added one or two new elements (chromatic, nonsensical scales in their solos, for example), but they were mostly a condensation, a perfect summary of the developments at that time. While Slayer-derived bands still exist (Vader is probably the most well-known in that respect), most extreme metal of the last ten, fifteen years does not sound like Reign In Blood. That album does seem like a pivotal point in metal though, it really was the last band/album in extreme metal with enough catchiness and well written songs (not to mention intelligible vocals) to appeal to a more mainstream crowd while being innovative and extreme enough to be relevant for the musical developments that followed.

Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
I like the alot of Slayer. They are good. Their metal is powerful and good. They are recreation to be listened. The Slayer is very good.

Vitz - of Sweden, Thursday, 19 September 2002 03:04 (twenty-three years ago)

these days I'm thinking South of Heaven and Seasons are better than Reign in Blood.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 19 September 2002 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...
I have only just heard Reign In Blood for the first time - where next for me? (not just Slayer reccomendations)

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

recommendations

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Morbid Angel

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I, too, don't exactly "get" why Reign in Blood is so revered. I tried and tried myself, and it just.. does its thing and doesn't exactly move me -- though I can see why it is very influential.

Hell Awaits, on the other hand, is quite grand... and the tracks on "Decade of Aggression" that are my favorites are from this record.

See, at the time I was discovering Slayer, I was discovering Napalm Death, Extreme Noise Terror, early Godflesh, etc.. and, well, I think the latter groups just made me hover in noisy ecstasy, whereas Slayer just sounded like a boring kegger party in comparison.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"God Hates Us All" is my fave. Very underated.

When I grow up I'm going to make an even more viscious and nasty album and call it
"There is No God to Hate Us All"

mei (mei), Friday, 23 May 2003 07:25 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

reign in blood is fucking amazing.

Matt P, Monday, 1 September 2008 07:09 (seventeen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAA ANGEL OF DEATH

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 1 September 2008 08:24 (seventeen years ago)

If nothing else, paved the way for a major label to release Fuck You.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 1 September 2008 08:25 (seventeen years ago)

I still love the fact that this, one of the most extreme metal albums of its time, was released by Def Jam.

MacDara, Monday, 1 September 2008 10:44 (seventeen years ago)

That's around the time that the rift between Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons happened, right?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 1 September 2008 10:50 (seventeen years ago)

I think that happened after South of Heaven, as I know the cassette version of that album (at least) had a giant Def Jam logo on the inlay card.

MacDara, Monday, 1 September 2008 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

"reign in blood is fucking amazing."

i heard it for the first time about 4 years ago but still havent bought any other slayer albums just in case theyre not as good.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

Go get South of Heaven today. You won't be disappointed. It's heavy in a different way and absolutely classic.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 21 December 2008 23:16 (seventeen years ago)

"I still love the fact that this, one of the most extreme metal albums of its time, was released by Def Jam."

Yes, I was doing a metal-oriented warm-up set at a dance club here in Portland last week. Edidemic/Reign in Blood was the last song of my set. The dance Dj who was on after me stared at the Def Jam logo for a second, trying to compute the label with the music. It was really funny.

I ended up playing a Ministry track for him as a segue so he had a beat to mix into.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 21 December 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

i'm really surprised when people supposedly don't "get" this record. to me it's one of the most concise recordings ever - conceived as a statement of relentless, unbridled aggression and executed impeccably. absolutely fucking mindblowing, bookended by two pieces that each fall short of the 5-minute mark but seem like monstrous epics. too many good riffs to count. so fully and well developed it's uncanny. astonishing that this was released in 1986.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 07:54 (seventeen years ago)

siegbran otm about this:

But I would say that the songwriting, the riffs and the production are the main reasons why Reign In Blood is so good, not necessarily the evilness/aggression. Of course that wasn't lacking in any sense, but contemporaries like Dark Angel, Kreator, Exodus, Destruction, Sodom, Bathory, Death, Possessed, Morbid Angel etc were more aggressive, faster or more vicious, and most of them were better instrumentalists as well. The great thing about Slayer was that they always wrote well structured, memorably and catchy songs rather than blind exercises in extremity.

pazuzu's petals (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 08:26 (seventeen years ago)

i think the "better instrumentalists" claim might be a difficult one to substantiate, however.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 08:37 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah really. Maybe if you listed Morbid Angel, you could say those guys are better instrumentalists...

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:05 (seventeen years ago)

everything about it is perfect. i mean it's definitely not the most evil thing ever recorded, even definitely not in the 80s. it's just so straightforward about the evilness and at the same time hides these gems in the writing and the details. the details make it all work. but the instrumentalism isn't right up front. and then the fucking VOXXX are like kind of naked-sounding? i'm just trying to say i love it. love south of heaven too.

Luelinks moderation team (Matt P), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:27 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

why don't we have more slayer threads?

thatwillultimatelyresultingalaxy-galaxymergersonacosmictimescale (jdchurchill), Friday, 29 January 2010 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

doesn't anyone like show no mercy?
tormentor is a sick track
so is die by the sword

this cd spends a lot of time in my deck.

the thrill of it all (omgomg), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

i do not understand people who prefer "seasons in the abyss" or "south of heaven" to this

rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

doesn't anyone like show no mercy?

Show No Mercy and Haunting the Chapel are right up there with Reign, as far as I'm concerned. I remain very attached to those two releases after (gasp) 26 years.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 30 January 2010 02:42 (sixteen years ago)

I love South of Heaven so much. I'm not prepared to make a case for it over Reign in Blood but it's such a fucking great album. The title, the vibe, the moment when he gets to the punchline in that title track...it slays.

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

^

latebloomer, Saturday, 30 January 2010 03:40 (sixteen years ago)

I love Slayer and listening to "Angel of Death" on a walkman from a rich friend who'd just come back from the States was a defining moment in my life.

Now, Saturday, 30 January 2010 03:42 (sixteen years ago)

i bought the vinyl versions of Show and hell awaits

also the new slayer rules

Ponger12, Saturday, 30 January 2010 06:22 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

This Sunday, June 6, heavy metal fans from around the world will unite to celebrate the fourth International Day of Slayer (IDoS), and demand the official recognition of June 6 as a public holiday. Those who observe the holiday are encouraged to stage "Slay-outs:" "Listen to Slayer at full blast in your car, in your home, at your place of employment, and in any public place you prefer." Headphones are considered an offense to the movement.

When this crusade first launched four years ago on 06/06/06, it was in response to the American "National Day of Prayer," which is held on the first Thursday of May. Gaining momentum every year, the IDoS Board last year petitioned the White House for official recognition of the holiday, citing that "heavy metal music is the central belief of a culture that exists among us, and Slayer is the perfect spokesperson."

During a recent interview with AOL's NoiseCreep, Slayer's Kerry King said about the IDoS, "I think it's awesome, and it's totally cool that fans have taken the time to maintain it. Slayer should have a national holiday - there are enough stupid holidays out there, so why not have one for us?"

To lend support to the International Day of Slayer, log onto http://www.nationaldayofslayer.org/

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 4 June 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

kinda doesn't make as much sense as it did in '06

IT IS A HARBINGER OF THE GOOD TIMES OF THE FUTURE (jdchurchill), Friday, 4 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

I'd love to know exactly which holidays Kerry King considers stupid.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 4 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Easter

Snop Snitchin, Friday, 4 June 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)

I bet King would not be so anti-holiday if he had a regular 9-5 job. I cant imagine any holiday being stupid, as long as I get the day off.

Bill Magill, Friday, 4 June 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

oh man did you guys look at the national day of slayer url? dig the experts section lolz

IT IS A HARBINGER OF THE GOOD TIMES OF THE FUTURE (jdchurchill), Friday, 4 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

They should've sent that request to Japan back in 06, PM Koizumi was a known hessian.

Siegbran, Saturday, 5 June 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

http://i.imgur.com/oEkw9Ep.jpg

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 July 2013 20:33 (twelve years ago)

hear he got in an accident thinking it'd help rearrange the letters back the right way

Neanderthal, Saturday, 27 July 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZcW_T_ZFj8

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 15:16 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

Their metal is powerful and good.

j., Thursday, 15 May 2014 23:54 (twelve years ago)

eleven months pass...

haven't listened yet, but looking forward to this Dave Lombardo interview:
http://www.thetrapset.net/past-episodes/

lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 21:42 (eleven years ago)

five months pass...

^^^ Lombardo interview is great for the record. He seems like a pretty humble, quiet guy and the stories about the early days of the band are cool.

Anyway, I've been listening to RiB and

A) Can't be loud enough
B) I can listen to the stretch from Reborn to Raining Blood over and over and over.

jimmy falloff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 11:05 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

always felt like this is really a thrash opus in three movements

movement 1: Angel through Jesus Saves. other than the few moments for the smoke to clear after Angel, the songs pretty much rat-tat-tat-tat into each other. they all have a similar modus operandi as well, it's like one big knockout punch, and then...

movement 2: Criminally Insane through Epidemic. dialed back on the intensity (relatively speaking), these are songs that stand out more on their own rather than as part of a collective. tempos are slightly slower, easing you into a false sense of security, things are calming down, then....

movement 3: the megaton payload, Postmortem and Raining Blood.

more fun when I listen to it this way. this is one where shuffle would fuck things up.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 05:26 (nine years ago)

There's a radio station run out of GA Tech, WREK, and they've had a metal show going since the late 80's, pretty much responsible for luring me from glam and AOR into the depths of death and black metal. One of the long time DJ's there has said that -- more than once -- they've gotten calls from jails and prisons that go something like

'this is a collect call from (insert name of jail or prison here), will you accept the charges from--

'PLAY SOME SLAAAAAAYYYYERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR'

(click)

Devilock, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 05:51 (nine years ago)

My gateway into metal (and music in general, lol). When I was like 11 my aunt took me to some record store and gave me a 20, and said "whatever you get, just don't get an album by that SLAYER band! I heard they're nazi satanics!" I came out with Reign in Blood.

punksishippies, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 06:08 (nine years ago)

These days though it's not my favorite ever. I always saw it as their punk album (no, not Undisputed Attitude). Somehow urban atmosphere, and morbidity for its own sake (which got an almost proto-juggalo vibe by Seasons and Divine Intervention--dude, serial killers and stuff are, like, awesome!).

The horror movie schlock before RiB is cheesy too but Slayer had an interesting way of mythologizing human atrocity, tying the ugliness of our world into something greater and more abstract.

That's the "depth" of Hell Awaits/Haunting the Chapel. More Apollonian and less Dionysian--minimizing the human element/raaaar-aggression/"band" feeling, and emphasizing atmosphere, architecture, cryptic weirdness (future echoes of Incantation et al echo all through it). Tom's voice sounded like it was rotting in that era.

and Show No Mercy is probably the most obviously metal metal album ever. It actually sounds more outrageous than RiB to my ears these days.

punksishippies, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 06:54 (nine years ago)

three months pass...

well, in retrospect this was inevitable

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 21:35 (nine years ago)

lol

I genuinely can't see how it could have come as a surprise to anyone.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 21:39 (nine years ago)

This?

http://www.avclub.com/article/slayer-wants-all-you-snowflakes-respect-president--249050

Literature's Finest Penis Descriptions (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 26 January 2017 00:57 (nine years ago)

Hillary voters apparently
http://reverbpress.com/tag/kerry-king-of-slayer-is-voting-for-hillary-clinton/

billstevejim, Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:33 (nine years ago)

Xpost yep.
The more offensive part was the horrible Pence joke.
This was Araya not King

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 January 2017 02:36 (nine years ago)

Completely agree, Blonde Redheads. The Trump photoshop was silly. The homophobic bullshit isn't.
Interestingly, it's King, not Araya, who's long had a reputation for being a bigot

beamish13, Thursday, 26 January 2017 05:21 (nine years ago)

was gonna say, Kerry is the guy I woulda figured woulda said this...Tom always seemed like the more reasoned elder statesman.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 26 January 2017 05:23 (nine years ago)

tho tbf they all always seemed pretty dumb

Neanderthal, Thursday, 26 January 2017 05:23 (nine years ago)

isn't araya the one who's a born-again christian? one can't particularly have too high expectations of such heretics.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 January 2017 13:25 (nine years ago)

i p much don't trust any bands or artists that "flirt with" or are "fascinated by" nazi/facist imagery blah blah blah barfffffffffff

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 January 2017 15:07 (nine years ago)

every time something like this happens, I think to myself "you were right, teenage DJP"

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2017 15:47 (nine years ago)

the Nazi imagery was mostly a Hanneman thing, Araya seemed more like a man moved by fatherhood and being a family man, which is why I was surprised it was him, since Kerry's always had the "closet John Rocker" reputation. I suspect Araya didn't necessarily vote Trump but is one of those people who thinks (wrongly) that we should all "move on". being a dude whose favorite band has been Slayer since high school and has two Slayer tatts on his right shoulder, this is naturally saddening as fuck but then again, I always knew the band were dum-dums (except maybe Lombardo, who of course they fired).

actually I think stuff like this is a problem among metal bands and fans as well. metal, unlike punk, tends to attract dumb conservatives and hateful idiots even though there are plenty of enlightened folks too, the assholes stand out. there were three assholes shouting "Trump! Trump!" at the Napalm Death show a few months ago until we all told them to fuck off and Barney basically told them they were idiots.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 26 January 2017 15:58 (nine years ago)

but in case I'm unclear, yes, fuck Araya for tweeting that nonsense.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 26 January 2017 15:58 (nine years ago)

metal, unlike punk, tends to attract dumb conservatives and hateful idiots

uh

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2017 15:59 (nine years ago)

yeah that was clumsy of me, w/ punk's skinhead element and all. what I meant was that you will find a greater number of people with liberal, activist values in the punk scene than the metal scene, but neither is free of the bad elements

Neanderthal, Thursday, 26 January 2017 16:05 (nine years ago)

still clumsy, try again

am0n, Thursday, 26 January 2017 16:11 (nine years ago)

go fuck yourself

Neanderthal, Thursday, 26 January 2017 16:18 (nine years ago)

closer

j., Thursday, 26 January 2017 16:47 (nine years ago)

i've never heard even one RABM record that wasn't shit. on the other hand there are plenty of good crust punk records.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:27 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkiQS1_VpjY

am0n, Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:56 (nine years ago)

five years pass...

Can't find if it was posted before, but this guy made a piano player roll of Slayer's "Reign in Blood" and then hooked it up to a figuring so that it does these wild movements in concert with the roll. Interesting.
https://www.jonathanschipper.com/raining-blood

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:27 (four years ago)

Nobody mentioned it above but Haunting The Chapel is simply amazing, my second favorite Slayer to Reign In Blood.

It and the Queensryche debut are neck and neck for my favorite EPs of all time, actually. It's kinda impossible for me to choose which is better.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 05:34 (four years ago)

isn't araya the one who's a born-again christian? one can't particularly have too high expectations of such heretics.

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 January 2017 13:25 (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Wait, really??

paolo, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 07:23 (four years ago)

I believe he's just a practicing Catholic.

Haunting The Chapel is simply amazing

It really is! It's a huge leap from SNM in terms of playing and songwriting.

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 09:23 (four years ago)

four years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc2FkLV9vkc

Maresn3st, Sunday, 17 May 2026 08:23 (four days ago)

thought the thread bump was gonna be for this madness

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYNCWy0Rt6w/?igsh=bTZkMjgya2ZieDk0

Ash Ra Pimples (NickB), Sunday, 17 May 2026 15:42 (four days ago)


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