Eurovision 2010 - Final, Saturday 29th May

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Vote for who you want to win, we'll see how ILXors compare to televote & juries.

Poll Results

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Germany - Lena, "Satellite" 7
Iceland - Hera Björk, "Je ne sais quoi" ("I don't know what") 5
France - Jessy Matador, "Allez Ola Olé" ("Come on! Ola! Olé!") 3
Greece - Giorgos Alkaios and Friends, "OPA" 1
Ireland - Niamh Kavanagh, "It's for You" 1
Serbia - Milan Stanković, "Ovo je Balkan" ("This is Balkan") 1
Russia - Peter Nalitch and Friends, "Lost and Forgotten" 1
Armenia - Eva Rivas, "Apricot Stone" 1
Moldova - SunStroke Project and Olia Tira, "Run Away" 1
Israel - Harel Skaat, "Milim" ("Words") 1
Romania - Paula Seling and Ovi, "Playing with Fire" 0
Portugal - Filipa Azevedo, "Há dias assim" ("It's one of those days") 0
Ukraine - Alyosha, "Sweet People" 0
Azerbaijan - Safura, "Drip Drop" 0
Albania - Juliana Pasha, "It's All About You" 0
Turkey - maNga, "We Could Be the Same" 0
Spain - Daniel Diges, "Algo pequeñito" ("Something tiny") 0
Norway - Didrik Solli-Tangen, "My Heart Is Yours" 0
Cyprus - Jon Lilygreen and The Islanders, "Life Looks Better in Spring" 0
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Vukašin Brajić, "Thunder and Lightning" 0
Belgium - Tom Dice, "Me and My Guitar" 0
Belarus - 3+2 feat Robert Wells, "Butterflies" 0
United Kingdom - Josh Dubovie, "That Sounds Good to Me" 0
Georgia - Sopho Nizharadze, "Shine" 0
Denmark - Chanée and N'evergreen, "In a Moment Like This" 0


Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Friday, 28 May 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

Songs I like: Russia, Germany, Serbia, Greece, Romania, Albania
Songs I hate: Denmark, Portugal, Cyprus, Norway, France
Probably going to win: Armenia, Azerbaijan

seandalai, Friday, 28 May 2010 10:42 (fifteen years ago)

Voting Iceland here, although I think Germany will win because it's a bit different from a final otherwise dominated by ballads and dance pop.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 28 May 2010 10:52 (fifteen years ago)

Drip Drop is supposed to be the favourite, and it's fine, except for the bit where she sings the title.

Tears don't go drip drop, that's a dripdry shirt that does that.

Mark G, Friday, 28 May 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, she should change it to "My lovely horse goes clip clop, clip clop", go for the nerdvote.

seandalai, Friday, 28 May 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

With Greece, Iceland and developing countries Azerbadjan and Moldova all among the favourites, I guess there is a chance that next year's final may be a bit less OTT in terms of budget....

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 28 May 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

what's the favourite, sorry?

wilter, Friday, 28 May 2010 10:59 (fifteen years ago)

What was that one where the girl sings "Because ... because ... because ... " ?

It was too tempting not to go "Because of the wonderful things he does nananananananahhh"

Mark G, Friday, 28 May 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

I notice that, out of all the obvious favourites, Germany is the one going latest in the contest, which is usually an advantage.

Germany hasn't won since 1982, so I really wouldn't mind, even if their Amy Winehouse-influenced thing is being a bit badly sung.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 28 May 2010 11:03 (fifteen years ago)

Azerbaijan is the bookies' favourite, and they're trying to recreate Russia's winning recipe from 2008: throw lots of money at getting big pop industry people in - video director did Straight Outta Compton(!), choreographer did Single Ladies, composer did random megastar album tracks I've never heard of - and pulverise the opposition with a ringtone-friendly pop ballad. They could well do it.

I've never understood why Germany is such a favourite: is there really a pan-European audience for this kind of thing?

seandalai, Friday, 28 May 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

I've never understood why Germany is such a favourite: is there really a pan-European audience for this kind of thing?

Maybe not. The Western music press knows zilch about Eastern and Southern European musical taste, and tends to pretend it's the same as in Northwest Europe. Which earlier finals have shown that indeed it isn't.
Even before the Eastern European countries entered, there was an obvious North-South thing, but that was easier to ignore because it usually just meant that Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Greece and Cyprus would all always end up in the bottom of the list (too few to compete with Northern Europe).

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 28 May 2010 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 28 May 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

The Western music press knows zilch about Eastern and Southern European musical taste, and tends to pretend it's the same as in Northwest Europe.

Geir utterly OTM about this. Thus you get the UK (one of the leaders in international pop music historically, that cannot be denied) sending the most insipid and/or gimmicky shit year after year, on the pretext that "we don't get it; we must send something noone gets".

Betfair's market for "Last place" has GBR at odds of about 2.4; the next competitor is at about TWELVE. :-D

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 29 May 2010 10:40 (fifteen years ago)

I notice that, out of all the obvious favourites, Germany is the one going latest in the contest, which is usually an advantage.

No shit. I did some proper statistical studies on this, using data from the last ten ESCs. Starting last-three vs starting first-three has an expected value of about *100 POINTS* extra! I'm not kidding here; this figure has been corrected for habitual friendly voting, overall country ability and song attractiveness.

The obvious explanation is that ppl remember the recent songs better when voting opens after the last song. There's a rule change this year; voting is open from the start. It is pretty clear to me that this is because some math guy in Eurovision has noticed what I noticed.

I don't think *all* the late-starter advantage will be eliminated by this rule btw (though twill be interesting to analyze). There's obv also the thing that the later you start, the more BOUZE has been consumed among spectators, which a) heightens enthusiasm and b) lowers threshold for spending a halfeuro or whatever on making your point.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 29 May 2010 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

All that said, go LENA! :-D

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 29 May 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

Starting last-three vs starting first-three has an expected value of about *100 POINTS* extra!

Yet starting first-three is probably an advantage compared to starting as, say, number 13 or something like that. And that is not because 13 is an unlucky number.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 29 May 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

Geir utterly OTM about this. Thus you get the UK (one of the leaders in international pop music historically, that cannot be denied) sending the most insipid and/or gimmicky shit year after year, on the pretext that "we don't get it; we must send something noone gets".

Even though they didn't really fail last year (The UK did a lot better than usually in 2009), I think the idea of having one prewritten song and just choosing the artist is a bad one. Having a number of songs to choose between makes it more likely that you end up picking a potential hit. And, really, Pete Waterman may have had a lot of hits in the 80s, but he hasn't exactly set the hitlists on fire the past 15 years or so, so I suppose they might have come up with somebody better to write that one song.

There is also a theory that being among the "big four" is a disadvantage because they don't get the attention the ones having to go through a semi final gets. But we'll see tonight if Lena can prove that theory wrong...

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 29 May 2010 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

Yet starting first-three is probably an advantage compared to starting as, say, number 13 or something like that.

Wrong. The actual link between starting order and points gained is linear the run of the competition. Extremely high levels of significance.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 29 May 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)

linear *throughout* the run of the competition

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 29 May 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

So far: Moldova and Serbia are doing it for me.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 May 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

This is being liveblogged over at http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com

Fat Dog Franklin (snoball), Saturday, 29 May 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

Moldova was fun! I've never watched this before; whenever someone gets up with an acoustic guitar, I wince (and put on rugby).

Euler, Saturday, 29 May 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Greece's singer is earning his pension here.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 May 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

OPA FTW

henry rollin rollin rollins (big spoon), Saturday, 29 May 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

What sounds good to me is getting to the next song.

Euler, Saturday, 29 May 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

kinda hoping this Turkish song goes crabcore

Euler, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

This isn't bad, the Albania song.

Euler, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

background singers a little wtf for Albania though I think

Euler, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

I really don't want to like France's entry...

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

The French performers don't seem to know how to play on a stage this big.

Euler, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

Why is Kelly from Saved By The Bell sitting at a glass keyboard with Charlie from Always Sunny in Philadelphia?

henry rollin rollin rollins (big spoon), Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

HE SHOT FIRE OUT OF HIS FUCKIN SLEEVE

henry rollin rollin rollins (big spoon), Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

if Romania don't win, we riot

henry rollin rollin rollins (big spoon), Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

The bloke presenter looks like Philip Schofield's evil european twin.

I'm being a smartass here, but in a fun way (NotEnough), Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

Germany, France and Greece have all made an effort => the Euro currency is safe!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

The bloke presenter looks like Philip Schofield's evil european twin.

See I had him down as what would happen if Gordon Ramsay mated with Ant and/or Dec.

Apparently he's a Villa fan.

MPx4A, Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

last!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

I actually think the UK entry sounded better in the new version, and also with a better stage show. Still not surprised that it failed though. OK, so Ukraine was worse, but Ukraine have a lot of good neighbours voting for them no matter what they enter with.

Oh, and I guess Germany is probably the only country besides Norway who can afford to arrange the final now, so probably good it was them who won it. :)

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 29 May 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and, btw. Classic appearance by Jimmy Jump during the performance of the Spanish entry. :)

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 29 May 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

Got everything mostly wrong there, turns out Europe did vote for "lovely Lena". Crowd favourites round our way were France and Moldova, I won some money on Romania, don't forget YOU HAVE NO PROGRESSIVE FUTURE and Josh should have stayed on that bus. Roll on next year.

seandalai, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

The Moldovans wuz robbed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkmncrAPILw

The Denmark tune had a lovely ABBA-esque hook in the chorus, shame about the verse though...

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 30 May 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

omg

OK the whole Moldova thing is amazing but especially this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdwhXNt4qw&feature=related

Aqua Backrat (ENBB), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)

Oh jesus, I'd blanked out the sax dude. There is no excuse to be pulling those kind of moves.

I'm being a smartass here, but in a fun way (NotEnough), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:21 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

just discovered the moldovan song [via epic sax guy meme]--it rules

max, Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:57 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsPp4tfBnGk

omar little, Friday, 17 December 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHy7DGLTt8g

Princess TamTam, Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

I need the MP3 of that.

I LOVE BELARUS (ShariVari), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

Has anyone slowed this down 800% yet?

Fear Moldova and the Nation of Leaners (seandalai), Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

10 hours?! Thought the 10 min clip I posted upthread was impressive but I be like damn. Sergey 4 eva.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 13 May 2011 00:53 (fifteen years ago)


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