today's best piece of "rock criticism"

why can't this band turn on a dime ? why is everything so pre- meditated ? why are they ultimately so serious ? and isn't gordon's untouchable sex pot conceit boring ten years ago ?

comes down to the same old complaint -- that they're wooden seasoned performers -- no spontaneity, no youthfulness (ok that's just accidental) -- hasn't this band become another rock dinosaur ?

if they came to new zealand i would have one chance to see them, whatever gigging mode they'd be in -- just like all the other cynical rock acts that do new zealand with one or two gigs, except that sonic youth seem to think their "cred." allows them to hold their live audience at least at arms length, and judging by reports of various of their gigs, exhibit a basic inability to read their audience -- to me they may as well be holding their loyal audience in contempt for remaining loyal and putting up with just more arrogant non-performance in the grand tradition of zeppelin, zappa et. al., (ie the audience deserve what they will put up with, another lame conceit -- isn't the audience just politely waiting ?)

hasn't the jury already been out fifteen years on this lazy little clique ?

my interest/following in this band has been one of my less lazy, so have i got it 'round the wrong way ?

when i was a lazy kid i was impressed by this bands "kill y'r idols"/ shoot us down if you can attitude -- now it's about their projected attitude, not mine

y're welcome to help me with my sloppy reasoning -- i mean sorry did i misunderstand that their gigging strategy was a sad but heartfelt commentary on the music industry ? should sy be included in the "what's the gimmick" thread ? if they've anything to say is their musical methods limited range just an accidental by-product ? if the music seems boring, have i turned off too soon or is it just that i can't get it ? ( 'cause listening, i do actually think i can get to what they're musically stabbing away at)

(btw "jury out" = jury is still in process of coming to a decision)

i appreciate that sonic youth is still alive well and trusted by many people (the other jurors, open-minded me,..), a state of affairs perhaps as annoying to me in the way that people still go on about sonic youth a lot and take what they do as "oh, ho hum what have we here but i expect there is some inner meaning here however arcane and maybe confined to nyc art rock cliques but maybe even simply for these reasons alone sy are still very cool", yes as annoying to me as the cliched use of the term dinosaur -- whenever i hear talk of sonic youth i suspect i have the same inner "grate" feeling as your reaction to the use of the term dinoasaur (can we agree that dinosaurs do exist without painfully reminding ourselves of the various member species?)

i was introduced to the term dinosaur by sonic youth -- in a typically useless in-joke on their ciccone youth album, an album actually coming before 1991 "the year that punk broke" and so in my scheme of things an album that did then and still now appears to be working fine -- ok it was pretty useless to be made aware of both dinosaur jr and neu! but i was able to check out said music through more rock-ist friends, so not a lot of time or money were wasted

i think spending too much time in the projected intellectual rigor of sonic youth might well promote my own lazy logic in a way as publicly spirited as the band itself, so i apologise for both the length and substance of my posts in a thread named "rock criticism", but i do not believe i am the only stubborn undecided juror, and it seems we agree to the extent that there is a prima facie case to answer

thanx also for email, i will study the review later

i think i like that the jury is still out: it's an achievement of a quite odd sort, given that they've continued making music

10 Bands Shaping The Post-Nirvana Era

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-pollack/10-bands-shaping-the-post_b_838771.html

:-/

Are we in the post-Nirvana era already? Time files etc. etc.

Jeff Pollack is Chairman/CEO of Global Media and Entertainment for Pollack Media Group. He is one of the music industry’s top prognosticators of musical trends, advising major artists, media and music firms, including MTV Networks. He also is one of the founders of the Big Bang Conference, a high level gathering of industry leaders focusing on the latest developments in the digital media and music space.

I'm glad that he's open-minded enough to realize that the non-extant White Stripes are continuing to shape the era.

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And I just have to include 5 bands that show the promise of establishing a lasting legacy in the future:

Band of Horses
Bright Eyes
Fleet Foxes
Kings of Leon
Mumford & Sons

crying real tears here

"10 Popular Bands I've Heard Of"

the young upstarts "david mathews band" are looking to seize the crown of jam band royalty long held by "greatful dead!" http://www.lowculture.com/archives/images/jackie_harvey.jpg

^ LOL

first commenter:

"Good Article, one of the best ones I have read today."

lol this article should've been its own thread tbh

yr wish is my command

10 Bands Shaping The Post-Nirvana Era