Halfway Through 2010: Favorite Albums of the Year (So Far)

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In the spirit of So we're halfway through 2008; what are your top 10 albums of this year, so far? . . .

Favorite albums of the year so far?

ksh, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Just posted this on my humble tumblr this morning:

My favorite new music of the new decade thus far; alphabetical, with two notes.

Across Tundras - Old World Wanderer
Cathedral - The Guessing Game
Elvis Costello and the Attractions - Live at Hollywood High*
The Flight of Sleipnir - Lore
Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 - Propellor Time
Mugstar - Sun, Broken…
The National - High Violet
Ratt - Infestation
Samsara Blues Experiment - Long Distance Trip
Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones
Ufomammut -Eve
The Velvet Underground - The Professor’s Tapes**
Voice of the Seven Thunders - Voice of the Seven Thunders

*This is the first complete version of a ‘78 show that has been previously released in dribs and drabs. It smokes, reminding me why I loved Costello so much at one point.

**This is a bootleg of five VU shows that have been available before as recordings made from radio broadcasts of these exact tapes. Needless to say, the audio quality is definitely improved, making great performances sound good instead of just passable.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 June 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

Seconding Propellor Time and The Professor Tapes, adding Elisa Randazzo's "Bruises & Butterflies," the Rangda album everyone on ILM is nuts about ...

tylerw, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

No order:

Extra Life
Slices
Konono No.1
Lean Left
Optimo's Fabric mix
Lindstrom & Christabelle
Rangda
Black Breath
Dry Rot

why don't black metallers have dreams (DJ Mencap), Monday, 14 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

Voice of the Seven Thunders - Voice of the Seven Thunders

^oh and this!

why don't black metallers have dreams (DJ Mencap), Monday, 14 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

vampire weekend
hot chip
lcd soundsystem
the fall

Michael B, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

Voice of the Seven Thunders - Voice of the Seven Thunders
White Fence
Forest Swords
Golden Triangle
Peter Brotzmann - Woodcuts
Guinea Worms
Jimi Hendrix
Thee Oh Sees
the Fall
Dead Luke
Acid Mothers Temple - In O to Infinity
Konono # 1
v/a - Brazilian Fuzz Bananas...etc.
Puffy Areolas
Hanoi Janes
El Jesus de Magico

ImprovSpirit, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)

It's been a strong year so far, already a lot more albums I love than there was last year.

1.The Chap-Well Done Europe
2.LCD Soundsystem-This is Happening
3.Hot Chip-One Life Stand
4.Janelle Monae-The ArchAndroid
5.Owen Pallett-Heartland
6.The Fall-Your Future Our Clutter
7.Ted Leo & the Pharmacists-The Brutalist Bricks
8.Gorillaz-Plastic Beach
9.Robyn-Body Talk (Part One)
10.Erykah Badu-New Amerykah Part Two
11Goldfrapp-Head First
12.Everybody Was in the French Resistance..Now!-Fixin' the Charts
13.Groove Armada-Black Light
14.Lindstrom & Christabelle-Real Life is no Cool
15.Fyfe Dangefield-Fly Yellow Moon

Looking forward to hearing the new Scissor Sisters, Kylie, Big Boi, M.I.A and The Dream albums in the next month.

To make it a perfect year I'd really love new albums by The Avalanches and D'angelo, but that's not looking likely especially in D'angelo's case.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)

01. Spoon, Transference
02. Peter Wolf, Midnight Souvenirs
03. Drive-By Truckers, The Big To-Do
04. Soulfly, Omen
05. T.A.M.I. Show DVD
06. Yeasayer, Odd Blood
07. Minus the Bear, Omni
08. Darkthrone, Circle the Wagons
09. Dr. Dog, Shame, Shame
10. The Bird & the Bee, Interpreting the Masters, Vol. 1: A Tribute to Daryl Hall & John Oates

Honorable Mention
Black Keys, Brothers
The Fall, Your Future Our Clutter
Goldfrapp, Head First
Jimi Hendrix, Valleys of Neptune
Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings, I Learned the Hard Way
Jónsi, Go
Marina & the Diamonds, The Family Jewels
Overkill, Ironbound
Pretenders, Live in London
Voice of the Seven Thunders, s/t

"Exile on Main Street" has been the best reissue (I really love the first six bonus tracks).

Wally P. Doyle, Monday, 14 June 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

Pantha du Prince - Black Noise

that's it

the most horrifying moment in shallow grave (abanana), Monday, 14 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

So far I really like:

Sleigh Bells - Treats
Midlake - The Courage of Others
Ellen Allien - Dust

and about half of Vampire Weekend - Contra

o. nate, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 02:50 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and I just got The Tallest Man on Earth - Wild Hunt, which will probably be moving onto the "really like" list.

o. nate, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)

Janelle Monae - The ArchAndroid
Marina & the Diamonds - The Family Jewels
Daddy Yankee - Mundial

Maybe: Pantha du Prince - Black Noise

confusion is a walrus (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 03:01 (fifteen years ago)

Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Vol. 2
Alcest - Écailles de Lune
The Besnard Lakes - Are the Roaring Night
Ratt - Infestation
Titus Andronicus - The Monitor
Goldfrapp - Head First
Drive-By Truckers - The Big To-Do
Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
Yakuza - Of Seismic Consequence
Robyn - Body Talk (Part One)
Cathedral - The Guessing Game

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 03:15 (fifteen years ago)

Rangda - False Flag
The Fall - Your Future Our Clutter
Tonetta - 777

bug holocaust (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 05:29 (fifteen years ago)

of the very little i've heard, stuff i really love:

High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine
Sleigh Bells - Treats
Black Breath - Heavy Breathing
Nice Face - Immer Etwas
Gorillaz - Plastic Beach (maybe?)
Ariel Pink - Before Today
Funerot - And Then You Fucking Die, Man

curious about (lazy): fall, tyvek, cathedral, nachtmystium, rangda, konono #1

disappointed by recent: oh sees, puffy areolas, hot chip

i'm sure i'm forgetting a ton of shit

the other is a black gay gentleman from Los Angeles (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:36 (fifteen years ago)

quadron
efdemin

cozen, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:42 (fifteen years ago)

LCD Soundsystem
Big Krit - KRIT wuz here
Delorean - Subiza
Onra - Long Distance
Pantha du Prince - Black Noise
The Bird and the Bee - Interpreting the Masters Volume 1: A Tribute To Daryl Hall and John Oates
Erykah Badu

Need to listen to more, not sure: Broken Social Scene
Should check out, love the "singles": Ariel Pink, Gayngs
Will be on there fo sho based on what's been released: Big Boi

Join the Gothscene! Join for free! Gothscene.com (Whitey on the Moon), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:53 (fifteen years ago)

The Hold Steady.

anagram, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:57 (fifteen years ago)

so far . . . LCD Soundsystem. imagine Sleigh Bells will be high up on my list when I listen to it more. besides that, I've mostly stuff that came out before this year, and the new stuff i've heard is kinda middling

ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

*i've mostly heard

ksh, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

Spoon
Radio Dept.
Scout Niblett
Harvey Milk
Rene Hell-Porcelain Opera/Rogue Camera
Actress-Splazsh/Machine And Voice
White Fence
Avi Buffalo
James Blake-The Bells Sketch
James Murphy/VA-Greenberg OST
Autechre-Move Of Ten
Total Abuse-Mutt
Madlib-Madlib Medicine Show No. 5: The History Of The Loop Digga 1990-2000
Young Jazz Rebels-Slave Riot
Bird Show-Bird Show Band
The Allison Cameron Band-S/T
Sightings-City Of Straw

Don't Make Me A Burrito (Craig D.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

goddam, keep forgetting to track down the new harvey milk

contenderizer, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

contenderizer why didn't you like puffy areolas?

teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)

top 5

northern portrait - criminal art lovers
standard fare - the noyelle beat
outrageous cherry - seemingly solid reality
title tracks - it was easy
besnard lakes - the besnard lakes are the roaring night

sugar fuckup (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I think the Puffy Areolas lp is awesome.

van smack, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

puffy areolas seem like they'd be cool live (haven't seen em), and the basic sound is awesome - but after a few spins i realized that they don't yet have the tunes or riffs to back the sound up. so unless i was in the perfect mood for it, it quickly came to sound like a bunch of undifferentiated grinding and yelling. all the bits sound cool at first, but there's nothing memorable to hang on to in the long run. i'm not saying it's a bad album, but i got tired of it quickly. it's too abstract for me, and not pop enough, because i'm stupid like that. kept getting bored & irritated before it ended.

ugly truth: sold the lp back w/out using the download card (ow).

contenderizer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)

Boris - Variations

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:20 (fifteen years ago)

oh yeah and melvins - the bride screamed murder

contenderizer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:25 (fifteen years ago)

you should have waited on this thread for about two more weeks (i need the time).

Boo Radley (Bee OK), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 04:41 (fifteen years ago)

Four Tet
LCD Soundsystem
Pantha Du Prince
Caribou
Spoon
Owen Pallett
Laura Marling
Lindstrom & Christabelle
Steve Mason
Vampire Weekend

I'm almost certainly forgetting a few more. A good year thus far.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:18 (fifteen years ago)

Massive Attack
Pawel
Joanna Newsom
Voice of the Seven Thunders
Polar Bear

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:20 (fifteen years ago)

Gonzales - Pianist Envy

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:24 (fifteen years ago)

Owen Pallett
Black Keys
Paul Cary
Midlake
Harvey Milk
The National
Liars
Tallest Man on Earth

and quite possibly this new Punch Brothers record, which I am impressed by on first listen

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:34 (fifteen years ago)

I've been probably more out of it than usual but this is my most played on itunes for 2010 stuff:

Konono No1
LCD Soundsystem
Immer 3
Tonetta 777
Optimo - Fabric 52
Die Antwoord
Danny Wang

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 05:58 (fifteen years ago)

man, listening to new music and thinking about what album that came out in the last six months is your favourite can make you feel so retarded sometimes.

teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 06:21 (fifteen years ago)

true, true

Cunga, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 06:34 (fifteen years ago)

I keep everything purchased in any given year in a pile separate from the rest of the filed away collection. Well, two piles, actually; one for 'new' stuff released in that year and another for back catalogue stuff. To remind me that this stuff is recent purchases and I ought to listen to it before it gets put away and forgotten about.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 07:07 (fifteen years ago)

The new stuff pile is bigger than the back catalogue pile so far this year.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 07:07 (fifteen years ago)

2. Mock & Toof - Tuning Echoes

the most horrifying moment in shallow grave (abanana), Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

I thought Future Islands' "In Evening Air" would get some love here. It's by far my favorite album of the year. It's a bit of a grower - I only started loving this after 4-5 spins, but damn does it blow me away now! The singer's voice can be a detriment to some (in some of the songs he sounds a little like Tom Waits, not that I'm complaining).

Some of the other albums I've been listening to almost non-stop:

Fredrik - Trilogy
Yellow Swans - Going Places
Eluvium - Smiles
Surfer Blood - Astro Coast
Shearwater - The Golden Archipelago
Caribou - Swim

musicfanatic, Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:06 (fifteen years ago)

man, listening to new music and thinking about what album that came out in the last six months is your favourite can make you feel so retarded sometimes.

― teflon donk (samosa gibreel)

But if you're thinking too much about it you're doing it wrong. These sort of recaps should be a quick flashback of the albums you've listened to the most in the past months. If you don't remember them it's ok.

Moka, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

I think the new album by (ex-freestyle singer) salsera India is pretty good, maybe the best she's done (though I confess I've never been completely satisfied with anything she's done):

http://www.myspace.com/india

May have some crossover appeal. The production and some aspects of the arrangements (etc.) put it on the pop side of salsa, but it's definitely still salsa. There are three English language covers ("Smile" the Charlie Chaplin one, "Crying" the Roy Orbison one, and Teddy Pendergrass's "Turn Out the Lights." I'm not big on English-language salsa, but I think these work, and India doesn't sound ridiculous singing in English or anything like that.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

I'm just in street team mode at the moment I guess.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

Stuff that comes immediately to mind:

Four Tet
Caribou
Sade
Pantha du Prince
Lindstrom & Christabelle
Eyrkah Badu
Janelle Monae
Yeasayer
The Fall
Flying Lotus
Rangda

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

Stuff that's great that hasn't been mentioned enough:

Guido
Javelin
Gil Scott-Heron
Jamie Lidell
Ted Leo/Pharmacists

Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

last year i don't think i even liked enough albums to come up with a top 10. this year is great already and i'm really looking forward to a bunch of records in the next couple months.

flying lotus
lcd soundsystem
badu
james blake, cmyk
the inbetweens, quantum cowboy
four tet (this one is growing on me)

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)

Stuff that comes immediately to mind:

Four Tet
Caribou
Sade
Pantha du Prince
Lindstrom & Christabelle
Eyrkah Badu
Janelle Monae
Yeasayer
The Fall
Flying Lotus
Rangda

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor)

Adding a few to my list:

The-Dream
These New Puritans
Gonjasufi
The Knife/Mt. Sims/Planningtorock
Sleigh Bells
Madlib (clearly there's a lot to sort through, but his releases this year are endlessly fascinating...)

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

Rangda

still really want to check this one out, tbh

ksh, Friday, 25 June 2010 05:01 (fifteen years ago)

Live teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JakvyyNmo4A

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 25 June 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

it's soooo frustrating that an album as inventive and full of ideas as well as trad r&b values like the jazmine sullivan one will get like 1% of the critical attention of janelle monáe's (let alone kanye's)

I totally forgot to put monae on my 50 album list and momentary felt bad because I do quite like it, but then thought that me ranking her 39 or something probably isn't the kind of critical adulation she'd relying on right now. I haven't heard NEW JAZMINE yet but hope to love it.

In general I reckon it's not so much specifically that critics like to ignore trad R&B values, but that critics don't see the point of trad R&B values in the absence of some context or approach that frames them as somehow oppositional - and hence worthy of writing about. Comparing Jazmine and Janelle can only be a broad-brushstroke dichotomous exercise, but I'd be interested in a comparison of, say, Jazmine's critical reception to that of Jill Scott's first album.

Tim F, Monday, 29 November 2010 05:31 (fifteen years ago)

tim, is this your 50 album list for pfrk, or...?

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah.

Tim F, Monday, 29 November 2010 05:55 (fifteen years ago)

cool. really wish pfrk would post individual writers' lists, like it has a couple times before.

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Monday, 29 November 2010 07:01 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, that would be great

markers, Monday, 29 November 2010 07:18 (fifteen years ago)

most of them vote in pazz & jop, if that's any solace to you nerds

J0rdan S., Monday, 29 November 2010 07:21 (fifteen years ago)

*cries*

markers, Monday, 29 November 2010 08:04 (fifteen years ago)

*inconsolable*

markers, Monday, 29 November 2010 08:05 (fifteen years ago)

the pfork 50-album ballot is literally the ONLY good thing they do - hate having to shear it down to a pissy little 10 everywhere else.

i'm surprised janelle even made your top 50 tim, i thought you were lukewarm on it!

actually a 20-album ballot and 100-track ballot would be ideal.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:42 (fifteen years ago)

stuff copied over from the "11 days into" version of this thread (plus some, half sorted):

sun city girls - funeral mariachi
the ex & getachew mekuria - moa anbessa
ofwgkta - earl/rolling papers/bastard/blackenedwhite (rather than break them out by artist)
black breath - heavy breathing
christian mistress - agony & opium
sun araw - on patrol/off duty
high on fire - snakes for the divine
purling hiss - hissteria/public service announcement
big boi - sir lucious left foot: son of chico dusty
e-40 - revenue retrievin: night shift/day shift
the dream - love king
lindstrom & christabelle - real life is no cool
funerot - and then you fucking die, man
various - shangaan electro: new wave dance music from africa
demdike stare - liberation through hearing/forest of evil/voices of dust
bongripper - satan worshipping doom
nerve city - sleepwalker/nerve city
zola jesus - stridulum/valusia
nachtmystium - addicts: black meddle II
actress - machine and voice/splazsh
a frames - 333
tonetta 777 - s/t
mark mcguire - living with yourself
timmy's organism - rise of the green gorilla
thee oh sees - warm slime
shit and shine - bass puppy 12"
sleigh bells - treats
ariel pink - before today

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, and kanye, can't deny

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

but that critics don't see the point of trad R&B values in the absence of some context or approach that frames them as somehow oppositional - and hence worthy of writing about

again this is EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! this is such a dumb way to think, like actually is-your-iq-that-low stupid, and yet it's RIFE in the critical landscape.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

eh, i'm willing to grant that some people might prefer and attach special value to the novel, challenging and/or convention-defying without assuming that they must therefore be stupid.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:24 (fifteen years ago)

nah it's just that they attach special value to a different set of conventions, but fool themselves into thinking that they're being ~challenging~

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

like, isn't the janelle album totally conventional by the standards of "arty" sci-fi shit?

if jazmine was framed as coming out of a difft context wouldn't she be seen as "convention-defying"?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

what the hell are you even on about?

The Reverend, Monday, 29 November 2010 11:33 (fifteen years ago)

that's rhetorical btw. i'm sure your answer is all well outraged and all that.

The Reverend, Monday, 29 November 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

well, it's a given that "challenging" is in the eye of the beholder, right? and in that sense, sure, framing helps. the janelle album has an obvious hook for people into slightly off-center pop, but that's hardly a bad thing. don't now enough about the jazmine record to make any comparisons. i just wanted to stick up for those who tend to seek out that which seems appealingly unusual. it's hardly the greatest fault of taste or intellect.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:38 (fifteen years ago)

when is the roots/legend record out?

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

two months ago?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

i'm surprised janelle even made your top 50 tim, i thought you were lukewarm on it!

I was and am. But I've probably only heard about 70 albums this year so coming in around 39 (actually just glanced at my list again and it would probably more like 45) = lukewarm. There's parts of it I really like I guess.

Even hearing 70 albums this year seems ridiculously excessive to me. I suppose it's not for most critics. But then I use up a lot of listening time with non-album funky.

again this is EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! this is such a dumb way to think, like actually is-your-iq-that-low stupid, and yet it's RIFE in the critical landscape.

Well yeah I meant that it's a problem. Certainly quite often at least. Sometimes something breaking with convention is a good thing but - and I think this is what you're getting at lex - the notion of what a "break with convention" is gets ossified, and codified around notions of genre-transcendence or eclecticism for its own sake. We already thrashed out all these issues in the actual monelle thread though I think?

The reason I raised Jill Scott is that at the beginning of the 00s the entire of traditionalist organic R&B was such a big thing for so many critics, again usually framed in oppositionalist terms, like it was kneejerk brave for anyone not to be Destiny's Child. I hated that whole critical line at the time and as a result had a tendency to turn my heart against a lot of that stuff prematurely, something I've only begun to get over/past in the last few years or so.

But of course one of the pernicious and cunning (as in "law of unintended consequences") aspects of the rise of post-Dilla culture is that just being traditionalist organic R&B, even in an anti-mainstream sense, isn't enough to excite critics anymore. Monelle's success is in some ways simply a more outsidery equivalent to the kind of discursive/musical shifts that result in stuff like the Bilal album or the New Amerykahs. At that point it gets very difficult to tease out the positive developments from the negative. Except in the general sense of mourning how every critical enthusiasm has its attendant dark side of ignorance and indifference.

Tim F, Monday, 29 November 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

lex, I think you ridiculously exaggerate the role the whole sci-fi concept album bullshit plays in creating The ArchAndroid's appeal. For me the appeal is primarily musical. I'm not a critic though. Maybe critics really do love that concept stuff, but I'm not convinced. I think they probably just talk about it because (a) everyone else is talking about it and (b) it's easier than talking about how the music sounds and feels.

I've checked out some of the Jazmine Sullivan and I don't hear it as very close to what Janelle Monae is doing at all, so I don't see the point in harping on the comparison.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

Playing Fuego's La Musica Del Futuro in the background and wondering if I should add it to my personal best albums list for the year. For something that doesn't quite make the cut, I've listened to it a lot; but it definitely sags severely at certain points.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Incidentally, when I was talking recently to someone about current music that I like and I mentioned Janelle Monae, he said something like: "Oh, is that the woman who's the new James Brown?" "Tightrope" is a great single, but I think it's too bad that is the sound and image she's presented over and over again on TV, since it's pretty misleading as to what the overall album sounds like. (I do think she overdoes the James Brown schtick in general.)

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

hey um isnt jazmine sullivan way way way closer to jill scott than destiny's child? why does this thread turn jazmine into the one who gives me an onerous eat-your-veggies style rhetorical vibe while janelle, whatever her faults, seems breezy & kinda fun?

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

this is i should note a purely rhetoric-based judgement -- i havent heard JS's album yet

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

I listened to the clips on Amazon and, yeah...Jazmine is Jill Scott in this equation. LEX HAS BECOME TEH OLDS

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

hey um isnt jazmine sullivan way way way closer to jill scott than destiny's child?

This is what i was saying?

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:49 (fifteen years ago)

since when was jill scott a negative comparison?! janelle could do with being a lot more like her, particularly w/r/t ability to convey emotion

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)

and jazmine's most comparable to mary j blige, keyshia cole, faith evans, lauryn hill, obviously, and i'm sure she's very aware of that and proud of it, BUT i think jazmine has an odd playful streak to her arrangements and songwriting that sits at odds with the all-serious-raw-emotion-all-the-time of mary j et al - it reminds me of solange more than janelle though - and that makes her a pretty singular figure within her traditionalist lineage.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:52 (fifteen years ago)

This is what i was saying?

― Tim F, Monday, November 29, 2010 6:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh i misunderstood then. i mean dont get me wrong, i like jill scott, & a lot more than i like janelle monae

but hey look, lex wants the theater kid to portray emotion -- reverse rockism yo (or just rockism straight up)

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:53 (fifteen years ago)

conveying emotion = rockism?!

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)

'faster' is one of my favorite songs this year so dismissing janelle as being unable to convey 'emotion' is just like ... why isnt jazmine playing her own instruments?? ... type stupid to me

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)

i wish you'd stop acting as though "popism" and "rockism" mean anything any more - idk why it's me who always gets accused of one or the other. i don't care, they're meaningless terms

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)

janelle is obvi not trying to convey emotion in the matter of a traditional R&B singer. sometimes the vibe on her album gets a little too "Lets do the time warp" to me but it also works pretty often too

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:56 (fifteen years ago)

i've already written like 1500 words on why the janelle album mostly doesn't work, but suffice to say that it's not just trad r&b singers who need to convey emotion, or just the sense of a song, and that even theatre kids should be expected to do this, and indeed there are plenty who do

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:58 (fifteen years ago)

im glad youve determined this record definitively conveys no emotion.

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

good!

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)

i actually expanded on that here http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2667

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)

Good that their are music critics around to prove I am not experiencing what I'm experiencing.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:07 (fifteen years ago)

*there*

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

(Guilty typing at work typos.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe some listeners are just too emotionally dense to get certain types of emotional expressiveness?

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)

'faster' is one of my favorite songs this year so dismissing janelle as being unable to convey 'emotion' is just like ... why isnt jazmine playing her own instruments?? ... type stupid to me

yeah "faster" is awes, I should have separated it out for my songs list in retrospect.

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

I still think this debate gets way too "this is like THIS" at times - one of the reasons I invoked badu above is that I know lex loves her and yet her last two records get rock crit praise on pretty similar terms to The Archandroid. Obv Erykah ain't a theatre kid but pretty much everything else holds true.

Lex would of course have no difficulty immediately drawing several distinctions between erykah and janelle - my point is not to conflate them but to say that it's in those sorts of distinctions (or indeed the distinctions between jazmine and jill) that we really start to talk about how these records work and what about their critics reception is right or wrong, rather than in more crusade-like battles for or against bold iconoclasts or keepers of R&B's eternal hollerin' flame.

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:58 (fifteen years ago)

janelle rox, jill scott sux, u r all gay

The Reverend, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:12 (fifteen years ago)

forgot to mention, in the above list, that liars sisterworld is really fucking great. their best since they were wrong so we drowned, imo.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 08:27 (fifteen years ago)

Try as I might, I cannot cross the line between admiring and loving the Janelle Monae album. Although I do fucking adore "Tightrope".

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

eight months pass...

Is there one for 2011?

Jung Danjah (admrl), Friday, 19 August 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

There is. Search for "favorite albums 2011" and you'll find it.

o. nate, Friday, 19 August 2011 20:40 (fourteen years ago)


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