TS: "Buffalo Stance" vs "Push It"

Hippychick

oh no you didn't!

uhhhhhhhhhh "push it"

Oh please. Neneh Cherry BY ABSOLUTE LIGHT YEARS.

Buffalo Stance is always as good as I remember it being when I come back to it. Push It never is.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/BuffaloStance.png

buffalo stance

push it is fun, but definitely overplayed. buffalo stance has so many incredible hooks - almost too many. don't... you get fresh with me.

Push It is great for maybe a minute and then it's just there. Buffalo Stance is great all the way through, for several rewinds. Got to be Buffalo Stance.

hard to vote against a KDAY back in the day staple but Buffalo Stance is just awesome

Buffalo Stance

Buffalo Stance came out when I was only just about to become conscious of what was being played on the radio. So for several years of my life these little hooks and vamps would suddenly appear in my mind from nowhere while I was walking around. Then I heard it again only a few months ago and I had this total Woah - so THAT's where it comes from!

I bet you had a look on your face like this:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/BuffaloStance.png

This poll really isn't fair. I have to say "Push It".

I learned from watching Pop Up Video on VH-1 that the backgrounds of the Buffalo Stance vid were shower curtains.

i was just thinking the other night (when it dropped in the middle of a prince tribute dj set) that "push it" has aged really, really well.

can't vote hard enough for 'buffalo stance'

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THIS SONG WOULD BE GOOD FOR POOPING 'AHHH PUSH IT''

buffalo stance!

Buffalo Stance is the better song, but I find myself singing Push It more often so I went with the latter.

i always forget about the dreamy, wistful middle 8 (?!!) in buffalo stance

Great poll, but impossible to chose.

"Push it" ~ "Buffalo Stance" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 99.99% of everything else

I would only vote if I could vote for both.

OK I've changed my mind, I just listened to both and TODAY Neneh Cherry wins.

^ ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

push it is fun, but definitely overplayed.

this is what's almost making me vote for push it, that BS is overoveroverplayed!

Really? I hadn't heard it for years whereas Push It is a dancefloor staple in my country.

your experience != every1's experience

Yeah, Push It is definitely more of a party staple / guaranteed to save any thinning dancefloor.

So hard to choose, but voted Push It 'cos if I think back to when I first heard either, I think Push It blew my mind more. It's harder and dirtier.

Just 8 bars of that drum loop in Push It can get my pulse racing while Buffallo Stance as awesome as it is (great hooks, lyrics, production) is more of a sing-a-long.

but gottta love Buffalo Stance for all it's cute britishisms

more like Britisher trying to sound US streetwise - "The guys a gigolo mmaaaaaan!"

"What is 'e LIKE?"

actually meant when she says "What is he like? What is like anyway? You Na'i'mean?"

and the video is pure UK Summer Of Love

xxpost. yeah!

"What is 'e like? What is 'e like anyway? You Na'i'mean?"

Anyone heard Neneh on those Rip Rig & Panic tracks? Sounds like a young Michael Jackson fronting an avant-punk band. It's great stuff!

The song is the aural equivalent of a cartoon dog on a skateboard wearing shades and clicking his fingers along with a boombox while saying "chill out".

(Buffalo Stance I mean)

Neneh isn't a britisher

which is why that bit works of course.

Buffalo Stance:

awful verse, awesome chorus

Push It:
awful

SB

cosign that SB

So hard to choose, but voted Push It 'cos if I think back to when I first heard either, I think Push It blew my mind more. It's harder and dirtier.

Buffalo Stance is probably a better song, but I voted Push It because I remember seeing kids dancing to this song in 6th grade and I was paralyzed/riveted. (What are they doing? How do I stop staring? What is this nasty song?) Buffalo Stance never did that for me, although it's clearly a great song.

Is there a reason I associate "Push It" with the "Theme From S'Express"? I haven't heard the latter in several years - is there a connection?

Buffalo Stance:

awful verse, awesome chorus

This is really true.

I learned from watching Pop Up Video on VH-1 that the backgrounds of the Buffalo Stance vid were shower curtains.

― corey, Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Is this show still on?

An early version of the song appeared as the B-side on the 1986 single "Looking Good Diving" by duo Morgan-McVey, which was made up of Jamie Morgan and Cherry's future husband, Cameron McVey. The title refers to Buffalo, a group of photographers, models, musicians, hair and makeup artists, etc. formed by fashion stylist Ray Petri, of whom Cherry, Morgan and McVey were all members[1]. Thus the meaning is to stand like you are posing for a photo-shoot in a London fashion magazine in the 1980s. The song's name is also a reference to Malcolm McLaren's song "Buffalo Gals", which is sampled in "Buffalo Stance".

Cherry notably performed the song live on Top of the Pops while 8 months pregnant.

also, the thing I didn'= know until today was that she was friends with the MassiveAttack guys around this time.

Oh yeah -- lots of overlap between her team and the Soul II Soul cabal.

yes, and all the greater for it

Well... I know ILM is made up of people who want to stay in the late 80s/early 90s forever.

whereas....

I want to know Surmounter's reaction to hearing Buffalo Stance for the first time.

^^this and

Well... I know ILM is made up of people who want to stay in the late 80s/early 90s forever.

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, October 11, 2010 11:45 AM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

whereas....

― Mark G, Monday, October 11, 2010 12:02 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark

surm! you're needed here!

ok i'm listening now

oh wait let me wait for the pizza delivery guy so i don't have to interrupt it

youre killin me smalls

i like this a lot, the synths going into the chorus make me very happy

wd have voted for it.

Yay!

whereas....

Well, I prefer the mid 80s or earlier, which is also the musical era that seems to have influenced today's chartpop the most.

I'd say the music of 1979-1985 has the least influence of today's chartpop, really.

still despairing over this results

But 1979-1985 sees the invention of hip hop, synth-pop and electro! Geir's equally wrong though, because late 80s/early 90s dance music is all over chartpop at the moment.

Geir's equally wrong though, because late 80s/early 90s dance music is all over chartpop at the moment.

Dance and hip-hop (which is typical of late 80s/early 90s) is nowhere today compared to just a few years ago. The 90s will remain the decade that is forgotten forever by all generations, only held in regard by one bitter generation of people born in the late 70s/early 80s who though that their generation was SOOOO cool because their taste was SOOOO different from anyone before them, then only realizing in a very bitter way that future generations prefer everything they thought they'd gotten rid of forever.

This does not only cover music, mind you, I remember the Y-generation here more or less abandoning all of the old sports that people were used to following and doing, and instead getting into their own sports like skateboard, snowboard, basketball etc (basketball has historically never been very big in Norway). Today, those sports have stagnated while the kids are getting into the traditional sports that people were doing in the past again.

The Y-generation thought they were the future, but now they are the past to a much bigger extent that the X-generation, punkers, disco generation or baby boomers ever were.

bit general, that, like.

I think you're the one sounding bitter there, Geir. Did you get bullied by skateboarders in 1992?

The 90s will remain the decade that is forgotten forever by all generations, only held in regard by one bitter generation of people born in the late 70s/early 80s who though that their generation was SOOOO cool because their taste was SOOOO different from anyone before them, then only realizing in a very bitter way that future generations prefer everything they thought they'd gotten rid of forever.

why do you maintain this is something particular to that generation? the 90s were a formative time for many kinds of music that will be around for the long haul.

Don't ask me, it's all "Dreamboats and Petticoats" around here!

Dance and hip-hop (which is typical of late 80s/early 90s) is nowhere today compared to just a few years ago

A look at the UK singles chart confirms that to be complete bollocks.

the 90s were a formative time for many kinds of music that will be around for the long haul.

Well... Dance/electronica is largely gone. Hip-hop is still around, but is increasingly relying on originally composed material instead of sampling, lately even with less breakbeats and more 80s pop influenced 4/4 beats even. And rapping now seems to be largely a hip-hop only thing, maybe apart from the occasional guest performance with R&B singers, whereas rapping was virtually everywhere in 1991.

The most lasting trends of the 90s were the ones that came out of grunge and later Britpop, who were largely a reaction against the changes brought by the typical Y-generation music.

Tinie Tempah is the only hip-hop act in that list (Cee Lo is not hip-hop anymore, he has moved on).

Well... Dance/electronica is largely gone

No it isn't! Look at that UK chart. Look at the success of David Guetta. Look at We No Speak Americano. You are wrong.

If anything its straightforward guitar-bass-drums pop that's been in decline over the last couple of years after dominating the charts in the mid-00s.

So, I guess you could say The Swedish House Mafia and Tinie Tempah are to 2010 what Phil Collins and Cliff Richard were in 1990.

As for David Guetta, his dance style is very 1982 sounding, no breakbeats, no digital synths, just the good, old 80s sound.

Tinie Tempah is the only hip-hop act in that list

And Roll Deep and Professor Green and Eminem and Plan B and Flo-Rida.

Below the Top 10, yes. Of course there will always be a variety of style, but in 1991 hip-hop and dance completely dominated the lists, apart from the occasional MOR ballad, and the kids were certain that everything "old" had ended and that hip-hop and dance would take over everything completely. This, of course, did not happen.

Lady Ga Ga would have sounded old fashioned in those people's ears had she appeared in 1991. Now she is current pop music.

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the kids were certain that everything "old" had ended and that hip-hop and dance would take over everything completely

Who were you hanging out with in 1990? I loved dance and hip hop back then but I never thought it would wipe out rock music. You're saying that even though the influence of those genres permeates the chart they have failed because they didn't achieve this ridiculous Year Zero that you've imagined.

Dance fans definitely saw the 90s as that sort of year zero. Hip-hop fans may not have cared so much (they generally didn't care much about music outside hip-hop), but dance fans despised everything "old" and though that their electronic music would conquer the world and take over completely. A bit like computer nerds often tend to think that any kind of new technology is the future and will wipeout anything that has existed before.

Of course this might also have been some sort of reaction against baby boomer reviewers who had refused to accept music based on synths in the 80s, but the dance fans even rejected 80s synthpop because it had tunes.

dance fans despised everything "old" and though that their electronic music would conquer the world and take over completely.

Maybe you're confusing musical debate with a sci-fi movie.

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don't be mean. the real geirbot is a jolly fellow (as is preprogrammed to be):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/geirbot.jpg

Of course this might also have been some sort of reaction against baby boomer reviewers who had refused to accept music based on synths in the 80s, but the dance fans even rejected 80s synthpop because it had tunes.

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, October 12, 2010 5:03 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

this is crazy. i was a classic, hardcore 80s indie kid, and i LOVED synthpop. lots of my friends did, too - and still do! do you imagine that sonic youth's "get into the groove" cover wasn't affectionate? 90s indie may have seemed uptight from a distance, but up close, it was pretty flexible.

i just don't get where you're coming from. are you trying to say that current pop more closely resembles that of the 80s than that of the 90s? well, yes and no. lady gaga may throw back to 80s plastic pop ideals, but a great deal of contemporary hip hop has its roots in the 90s.

this is crazy. i was a classic, hardcore 80s indie kid, and i LOVED synthpop. lots of my friends did, too

Obviously not many enough to put the likes of Anything Box and Information Society in the charts to the same extent Yazoo, Human League and Soft Cell had been 8-10 years earlier.

The Human League only had 3 major hits in the US ("Don't You Want Me", "(Keep Feeling) Fascination", "Human")
Soft Cell had 1 major hit ("Tainted Love")
Yaz had zero major hits
InSoc had 2 major hits ("What's On Your Mind", "Walking Away")

wtf are you talking about

"what's on your mind" is a jam

another InSoc jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMaUwniJwKM

dude apparently sang into a megaphone in concerts when doing this song

"Walking Away" >>>> "What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy)

I didn't know for years that they're credited for freestyle classic "Running."

"Think" also >>>> "What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy)"

HOWEVER, I still really like "What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj4rM60GN-o

yes, this is also great

man, I forgot about "Think."

Obviously not many enough to put the likes of Anything Box and Information Society in the charts to the same extent Yazoo, Human League and Soft Cell had been 8-10 years earlier.

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:17 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

we might quibble over the selections, but i'd agree that synth-pop had a fairly brief shelf-life in the US. so be it. lots of pop trends come and go. there's no reason to be bitter over it. hell, remember grunge?

[what is the beauty of grunge?]

Just like disco, though, synth-pop lived on in other iterations.

hello linkin park

Tinie Tempah is the only hip-hop act in that list

And Roll Deep and Professor Green and Eminem and Plan B and Flo-Rida.

And B.O.B. And Kesha, arguably. And Snoop Dogg, and Pitbull (twice!), and Skateboard P, and Spank Rock all make featuring appearances of the kind Geir claims were "everywhere" in 1991 but no longer evident here.