Nine Inch Nails vs. The Doors

the doors

NIN

Only going with the Doors as a measure of how much I UTTERLY LOATHE NIN and have had to be reminded of his very existence by the awful crossover with fandoms I'm part of.

Well haven't been part of a Doors documentary yet so...

braggnin^

this comparison was brought up by oliver stone in the natural born killers days.

ha was it really

i think my doors hate has been pretty much on display on ILM a few times, so obv NIN

doors - the lows are lower but the peaks are higher

At least NIN have one side worth of music (the Broken EP) I can still listen to, while the Doors make me laugh hysterically.

it's all pretty laughable, imo, the question is whose ridiculousness is worth the trouble.

simon reynolds made a pretty good case for the doors at some point, iirc

I'm weirdly kinda torn -- love neither but think they're both totally worthwhile to some extent despite obvious flaws

I like ~5 NIN songs and ~2 Doors songs

Half a dozen NIN songs vs a dozen Doors songs. But there's nothing in the NIN catalogue that's as much of a struggle to listen through as 'The End' or 'When The Music's Over'.

I gotta vote for the Doors. The lyrics are just as laughable as Reznor's, but a lot of their actual music (mostly the debut, Morrison Hotel and L.A. Woman) hasn't aged as poorly as NIN's has.

NIN lyrics vs. Doors lyrics could be its own poll and might have a different winner

no one wins there

people who don't speak english

NIN lyrics vs. Doors lyrics could be its own poll and might have a different winner

Yep, I'd be torn. Musically I have to go for NIN though. Formative influence and all.

basically to me this is one album I'd rep for vs. another - Pretty Hate Machine vs. L.A. Woman. I'll take the latter

The Doors are one of the very few bands I have absolutely no tolerance for whatsoever, so it would take something really dire for me to come down on the side of shirtless Jim. This is not yet one of those cases.

Oliver Stone Doors movie is 10 kinds of awesome. nothing about NIN is awesome. ergo Doors win.

NIN is aggressively juvenile but for some reason that makes a lot of the music that much more charming to me (I would expect it to be repulsive but a lot of that probably stems from first encountering them when I was 16).

I like The Doors too but not enough to actually buy albums.

as insufferable as morrison could be, the doors get a bad rap by internet nerds. going w/ doors in this.

i liked jim morrison a lot more once he became danzig and had songs that werent all completely shitty

also you could put him in your pocket

lol

jerry scheff vs dude from filter

huge out-loud lol

Billy Corgan vs Sice

NIN brew up some weird irrational hate in me that completely gums up all my cognitive motors, so for whatever the exact reason i'm voting Doors in this one.

no contest. NIN.

Doors

sorry for my predictable but heartfelt NIN vote

it's kind of a bummer that by the time ppl of lj's age got around to hearing the doors the anti-canonizing-of-jim-morrison effect was so heavy that it's kinda impossible to actually like hear a doors record -- at least two doors records, probably three, are pretty fuckin good

I mean shit - the doors were good enough for ian curtis to genuflect at their altar

I am not voting NIN because I hate The Doors, I am voting NIN because I really like some of their stuff - it is a positive vote

My best friend is quite a big Doors fan - he played me Alabama Song once and yeah it was awesome, ditto L'America - they seemed best when going all-out weird. Even The End is quite good.

(Don't assume I've not heard ANYONE is the thing here - I probably have! My dad introduced me to a LOT of shit)

I do need to give The Doors a fair crack.

(pssst actually you don't but keep that between you and me)

Ok so app this is the thread where I repay aero for awesome metal recommendations by being a one-note crotchety dick.

I'm not a huge Doors fan for a bunch of reasons (the least reasonable of which is that when I was 14 I had shoulder-length hair and everybody at my high school would tell me "dude, you look just like MORRISON," which, fuckin', so much wrong with that, and besides, I hadn't heard 1 Doors song I liked at that point so to me they sucked) -- I hated them for several years. then I heard L.A. Woman because a girlfriend's opinion was "you know what, they're kinda good actually" so I borrowed her copy and, well, "Love Her Madly" struck me as pretty damn good as did the title track. And then I read some RS critic describing what made "People Are Strange" different - part of which was, there's a decent case for Morrison as a somewhat-potentially-capable poet; "People are strange, when you're a stranger/faces look ugly when you're alone" is a bit of work that I can't imagine Mr. Rezor pulling off with comparable grace. Something very insightful in there. I don't think he ever really achieved the potential that some hear in him, but the kernel, for me, is there.

(however my own peer group's late-night-coffee rewrite ("people are strange, when you're the dark Lord/faces look ugly when they're melting like wax") can certainly hold its own against the original imo)

I think No One Here Gets Out Alive and all the hype associated with that book ruined the Doors for a lot of people.

People rip on the Doors because the lead singer was a pretentious asshole, a lot of the material is ridiculously OTT, etc. But those strictures apply just as much to a lot of other bands who were less creative and less influential. In 1967-69 I don't think the Velvet Underground or Iggy and the Stooges had any problems with what the Doors were doing.

I don't have a problem with The Doors at all! Oh wait they did Light My Fire didn't they? That legit rules. I just wish they'd been...weirder is probably the wrong way to put it. Bolder, maybe.

Like, you say a lot of the material is very OTT - if anything I think this was a strength of theirs they could have played to even more violently

I think Phil's recommendations upthread are good (the debut, Morrison Hotel, LA Woman) -- all those are worth hearing. There are some bad songs on all of them, but even the bad songs are kind of entertaining.

To me the weakest Doors material is when they try to do three-minute pop songs. Some of those come off but others just don't make it. The longer, weirder tracks are their best stuff.

iggy was a pretty big doors fan iirc (xposts)

(i mean not that iggy liking something=impenetrable defense or anything)

"dude, you look just like MORRISON," - i think you misunderstood!
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when i was 12 (right after beatles phase right before joy division phase)(and i can't pretend that i didn't see some morrison -> curtis and that it didn't probably play a role in said joy division phase)(or morrison -> iggy or morrison -> patti smith) i was a huge doors fan, somehow my friends and i all suckled onto some classic rock icon - one was into hendrix, one zeppelin, one pink floyd (or more accurately 'the wall'), i could've done worse i guess (i could've picked 'the wall'). i shook it off but enough of it lingered that a couple of years later i did drag a date to see the doors. that was probably the final nail. then when i was stationed in italy there was this one movie theater i would go to that at least half the time before the trailers when music would be going thru the speakers you'd hear 'twentieth century fox' and i enjoyed hearing it and so when some years later (some years ago) someone on ilx said 'everyone agrees that the doors suck except for one song but noone agrees on what that one song is' - this rang true. alot of what repulsed me about the doors when i outgrew them i now feel some fondness toward - the silliness, the pretension, the dark 60s california vibe that guaranteed a namecheck from didion, the cockworship - and alot of what repulsed me about the doors still repulses me but nevertheless for some reason i have a folder on my harddrive w/ nearly 40 doors tracks, two maybe three cd's worth. this doesn't mean much - i own seven cd's worth of funhouse sessions, five cd's of jack johnson sessions, four cd's of basement tapes, etc - but still for some reason i have it. i don't own any nine inch nails.

ha i got the u-r-jim-omg-lol shit so many times during my brief college stint. it is the burden of having long hair + any proximity to the young/stupid.

better Jim Morrison than Darius fucking Rucker

they're both funny

ha i got the u-r-jim-omg-lol shit so many times during my brief college stint.

I got Lennon, long hair and glasses you see.

Y'all are all lucky - mostly I got this guy:

http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/231/009726_14.jpg

I wouldn't scarcely call myself a Doors fanatic but I find something to enjoy in every Doors album I've ever heard and I'm not sure there's a single one of their songs I actively hate, and that's not bad going really, in comparison to many of their peers. Never took any notice of NIN, so can't, in all coscience vote, in this poll.

To me the weakest Doors material is when they try to do three-minute pop songs. Some of those come off but others just don't make it. The longer, weirder tracks are their best stuff.

I'd disagree - I think their strength was writing catchy pop tunes with a weird and dark tinge. Can't really take too much of their noodling.

everybody at my high school would tell me "dude, you look just like MORRISON," which, fuckin', so much wrong with that

Also, this is kinda begging for a picture of Jim Morrison's head 'shopped onto Brad Whitford's body, but my MS Paint skills aren't all that.

being a one-note crotchety dick.
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the doors' "noodling" has never been unlistenable to me

I take that back, this is one of the worst things ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dluxUtK2yqk

but that doesn't count for obvious reasons

got Lennon, long hair and glasses you see.

Hi there. But actually it was more either Howard Stern or Ozzy in my case.

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i think the real question is who rocked the leather pants better

fwiw i enjoy the doors but NIN is way more formative for me

^ my thoughts exactly.
i should also add that my experience with "doors fans" has somewhat pushed me towards NIN here.

the doors creep me the fuck out. and they don't make any goddamn sense musically. i really can not figure them out.

nin, on the other hand, rocks! yeah!

I can't even imagine what a "Doors fan" would be in this day and age.

I'd take "Hyacinth House" over a lot of band's careers and NIN are one of those bands.

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I can't even imagine what a "Doors fan" would be in this day and age.

Old, fat and balding.

the Doors fans I know are all lesbians

The Doors 35
Nine Inch Nails 31

**shock and amazement!**

+ dismay

About even = not that surprising really.

man did everybody watch that scott stapp singin riders on the storm thing? really highlights two things: 1) musically that's a pretty solid tune in my opinion 2) that guy can't sing

love that song. couldn't make it past a minute of the scott stapp version.

voted NIN because they were my favorite band at age 11. still a pretty good time if you don't pay attention to trent singing about his boner*.

*boner caveat applies to the doors as well