John J has kindly volunteered to tabulate the results so we are going to have an ILM Alltime Best Metal/Heavy Rock tracks Poll & ILM's Alltime Best Metal/Heavy Rock Albums Poll.
This is the thread to nominate the tracks. No limit on nominations for now but that may change.As regards to "alternative" stuff, Grunge obviously counts, janes addiction count(jane says too because if that doesnt count then neither does the metal ballads, which would be silly) , but not sonic youth or dinosaur jr type stuff. If you're not sure ask on thread, someone will comment for sure!We can discuss and veto tracks on this thread. But make sure you do, no moaning when results are in.
So onwards with your nominations.
Will start with a few obvious ones.
Black Sabbath - ParanoidLed Zeppelin - Stairway To HeavenDeep Purple - Smoke On The WaterIron Maiden - Run To The HillsGuns N Roses - Sweet Child O MineGuns N Roses - Paradise CityJanes Addiction - Been Caught StealingNirvana - Smells Like Teen SpiritPearl Jam - Alive
now lets go..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago)
AC/DC - Let There Be RockAerosmith - Nobody's FaultBlack Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody SabbathSlayer - Raining BloodVan Halen - Panama
This is going to be great.
― Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=41
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, that reminds me:
Kyuss - Demon Cleaner
― Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago)
I sure hope so.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
I have the distinct pleasure of nominating the following:
Motörhead - Ace Of SpadesMotörhead - No Voices In The SkySlayer - Angel Of DeathAerosmith - Sick As A DogAlice Cooper - I'm Eighteen
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
Black Sabbath - Iron ManSlayer - Reign in BloodMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Welcome Home (Sanitarium)Metallica - OneSlipknot - Wait and BleedConverge - Fault and FractureDeftones - Change ...I'm guessing punk/hardcore stuff doesn't figure in here?
― underneath the moon and the stars (Whitey on the Moon), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:27 (fourteen years ago)
Black Sabbath - War PigsBlack Sabbath - Neon KnightsBlack Sabbath - Black Sabbaththe Beatles - Helter SkelterAC/DC - You Shook Me All Night LongIron Maiden - Flash of the Blade Iron Maiden - WrathchildBlue Oyster Cult - GodzillaVan Halen - Runnin with the DevilMetallica - Enter Sandman
― MumblestheRevelator, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not against it but others might. Nominate stuff and if people wish to veto it we can. Or we just add "punk" to the thread title if there's loads of demand hehe.
But I think certain punk belongs and some dont. I think Anarchy In The UK prob should be nommed. I think Kick Out The Jams and I Wanna Be Your Dog type stuff should be too. The line between metal/punk/hard rock has long blurred. No Television or Blondie though...I guess Green Day can since most of their fans are "kerrang" type. I think most know here which punk metal fans like and so on.
But will leave the decisions to the majority on this thread.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:32 (fourteen years ago)
HAIR METAL ALERT
Cinderella - Nobody's FoolDokken - It's Not LoveAccept - Love ChildAccept - Balls to the WallScorpions - Rock You Like a HurricaneTesla - Modern Day CowboyIron Maiden - Wasted YearsIron Maiden - The ClairvoyantAC/DC - If You Want BloodKISS - I Was Made for Loving You (← challops?)Judas Priest - Breaking the LawGuns 'N Roses - Welcome to the JungleGuns 'N Roses - Rocket QueenVan Halen - UnchainedWendy O. Williams - It's My LifeLiving Colour - Cult of PersonalityBlack Flag - Loose NutQuiet Riot - Metal HealthQuiet Riot - Cum on Feel the NoizeMegadeth - Peace SellsMegadeth - Hangar 18
I'm sure I'll think of more...
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:59 (fourteen years ago)
Does Cromagnon - Caledonia count? Because if so, I might actually vote in this poll.
― emil.y, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago)
I dont see why not. Its a great heavy track. But I dont think ballots of 1 or 2 songs/albums will be accepted! But i know you have a secret teenage metal past anyway..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago)
melvins-Borissonic youth-expressway to yr skullled zeppeline-kashmirjanes addiction-three daysmy bloody valentine-when you sleepspirituelized-cop shoot copqotsa-better living through chemistrydeep purple-black nightministry-just one fixfoetus-hammer fallshigh on fire-bastard samurairatm-bullet in the headfaith no more-epicblack sabbath-sweet leafmudhoney-in 'n' out of gracethe jesus&mary chain-reverencejimi hendrix-voodoo child(slight return)
― nakamura, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago)
ooh, a few more. sorry.
Ratt - Wanted ManRatt - Round and RoundRatt - Slip of the LipVan Halen - Ain't Talkin' 'Bout LoveVan Halen - On FireFaith No More - From Out of NowhereFaith No More - Digging the GraveHelmet - UnsungRush - Tom SawyerMinistry - Burning Inside
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago)
I dont seesonic youth-expressway to yr skullmy bloody valentine-when you sleepspirituelized-cop shoot copthe jesus&mary chain-reverence
as metal or hard rock, sorry. And i love all 4 bands. But I really dont think they belong in this poll. Sorry.No probs with the rest.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:27 (fourteen years ago)
I'd agree. (I love those bands too.)
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago)
lol johnny, im dreading all the votes for hair metal, but that was kinda the reason for the tracks poll, they kinda more belong in one than the albums (with some exceptions.
BUT FOR FFS
YOU LEFT OUT HANOI ROCKS
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago)
Ha, not at all! I'm one of the few people I know who didn't go through a metal phase. I was a grunge kid, but along the Nirvana/Sonic Youth/Dinosaur Jr lines rather than Alice In Chains/Soundgarden.
On the other hand, I do love Sabbath and Hawkwind. I could put together a ballot of just them. But I probably shouldn't - all the real metallers will hate me for ruining their poll.
― emil.y, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago)
Hanoi Rocks - Tragedy
emil.y dont be silly. If you like enough to make a ballot then do it. This is an ILM poll not a terrorizer poll anyway!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:30 (fourteen years ago)
No doubt a lot of grunge will make my ballot anyway. It was my way in.
Its going to be a fucking nightmare limiting my ballot to 50 albums though.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:31 (fourteen years ago)
Hanoi Rocks - Don't Never Leave Me
Hanoi Rocks - Until I get You
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago)
On purpose. I always thought they were shit.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago)
Hawkwind - Silver Machine
aaaaaaaaaaand...
Spermswamp - Fermented Anal Nectar
― emil.y, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago)
Couple more, then I'll stop.
Mötley Crüe - Shout at the DevilMötley Crüe - Wild Side
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, and
Mötley Crüe - Live Wire
AC/DC - JailbreakBlue Oyster Cult - Veteran of the Psychick WarsSoundgarden - Jesus Christ PoseSystem of a Down - ToxicityIron Maiden - Hallowed Be Thy NameMeshuggah - IVoivod - The Unknown KnowsLed Zeppelin - Dazed and ConfusedNirvana - SchoolScale the Summit - Sargasso SeaGreen Day - Jesus of SuburbiaCaina - Willows and Whippoorwills
― Sundar, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:36 (fourteen years ago)
Does The Who count? Because they should.
The Who - Baba O'RileyThe Who - Won't Get Fooled Again
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:37 (fourteen years ago)
YOU LEFT OUT HANOI ROCKSOn purpose. I always thought they were shit.― Johnny Fever,
― Johnny Fever,
that's when i reach for my suggest banolver ;)
You nominate shitty hair metal yet dont like Hanoi Rocks???? !!!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:38 (fourteen years ago)
I just noted that I was nominating hair metal. Not that it was shitty. You're a pretty judgmental fuck, haha!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:45 (fourteen years ago)
Tool - Schism
― Sundar, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago)
You can nominate all you like johhny. But hanoi rocks will beat most of it :P
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago)
Now I know how Tuomas feels when he gets razzed for talking about dance music in year-end threads. I'm being marginalized!!!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:50 (fourteen years ago)
I really wish tuomas would nominate some metal/heavy rock songs he liked. I can see plenty of people voting for tracks but not albums actually.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:51 (fourteen years ago)
btw johnny, i bet half of the tracks you nominate get in the poll results easy
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:52 (fourteen years ago)
Nirvana - Heart Shaped BoxSoundgarden - Jesus Christ PoseAlice In Chains - Would
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago)
Heh, I nominated "Jesus Christ Pose" already.
― Sundar, Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago)
bad me, i was too busy marginalizing poor johnny! ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:56 (fourteen years ago)
Does 'Heart Shaped Box' really count as Metal/Heavy Rock? I mean, I can see 'School' working within the remit, but not ALL Nirvana songs. What next, 'Molly's Lips'?
― emil.y, Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago)
damn right it does. and it will be bloody high in my ballot too. ( Heart Shaped Box)
Its heavier than bon jovis 80s hits that i have no objection to being nominated as its still heavy rock.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:09 (fourteen years ago)
Kreator - Impossible Brutality
― Sundar, Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago)
As I said before metal/heavy rock bands still made lighter songs that are still songs made by metal/hard rock bands. I'm not a fan of metal/hard rock ballads, I despise many of them, but they're still classed as metal/heavy rock songs.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago)
Black Sabbath - After ForeverElectric Wizard - Wizard in BlackJudas Priest - Victim of ChangesJudas Priest - Diamonds and RustKing Diamond - AbigailThin Lizzy - Whisky in the JarThin Lizzy - Fighting My Way BackVenom - Black MetalVenom - Countess BathoryVenom - Buried Alive
and then here's some maybe more controversial picks:
Nightwish - The KinslayerManowar - The Power of Thy SwordGamma Ray - The Heart of the UnicornMeatloaf - Life is a Lemon (And I Want My Money Back)Disturbed - Land of Confusion
― Viceroy of the Daleks (Viceroy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:17 (fourteen years ago)
Boris - PinkBoris - StatementBlack Sabbath - SupernautElectric Wizard - Vinum SabbathiElectric Wizard - FuneralopolisMastodon - Blood and ThunderMinistry - Jesus Built my hotrodSepultura - TerritorySleep - DragonautSpooky Tooth - Better by you, better than meSunn O))) – AgharthaTestament - Over the WallThe Sword - to take the blackWitchcraft - Samaritan BurdenZior - I really doZZ Top - Cheap Sunglasses
― Moka, Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:29 (fourteen years ago)
Mastodon - Crusher/DestroyerMastodon - March Of The Fire Ants
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago)
The Who? Really?
― underneath the moon and the stars (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
I think the parameters of this poll may be fatally ill-defined.
― underneath the moon and the stars (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:44 (fourteen years ago)
I think the definition is clear its just a wide category. I don't really see how Led Zeppelin or BOC could be accepted but The Who rejected.
― Viceroy of the Daleks (Viceroy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago)
Will leave it up to thread participants to decide on what gets in or not.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 01:54 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone else says the who shouldnt be allowed (obv theres a difference between 60s and 70s who) speak up
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:27 (fourteen years ago)
i object to "Under the Bridge" by RHCP being on the nom listdont know the blind melon song but i object to it in principle
― t( :D t) (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago)
just want to point out that Wikipedia lists Linkin Park as nu-metal
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago)
kid rock is legit, just remember that i will be tallying the ballots so i will know which of you dicks vote for it
― t( :D t) (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
i've been super procrastinating on brainstorming for tracks noms, what time is the deadline tomorrow?
― my nickname on ILX is frapped up shawty (some dude), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago)
For full list of album and track nominations, please refer to the full lists in the voting thread.
Albums: ~~~ VOTING THREAD : ILM ALLTIME METAL/HEAVY ROCK ALBUMS/TRACKS POLL~~~ VOTING CLOSED
Tracks: ~~~ VOTING THREAD : ILM ALLTIME METAL/HEAVY ROCK ALBUMS/TRACKS POLL~~~ VOTING CLOSED
[mod edit]
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
midnight UK time. But we are now being REALLY STRICT on nominations.
i object to "Under the Bridge" by RHCP being on the nom list
so do I
my own track suggestions will be last-minute. well, excepting the ones I think of right now, offhand.
Kayo Dot - ___on limpid formDeathspell Omega - The Repellent Scars Of Abandon And ElectionEsoteric - CircleShit And Shine - Toilet Door TitsMr Bungle - My Ass Is On FireAgalloch - Not Unlike The Waves <--- best Agalloch song by like 9,000,000,000 milesShining - Blackjazz Deathtrance <--- best song of 2010 so farLapsus Linguae - The Terse Crimp
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
so dan can stop nominating stupid shit, john & I have decided to be strict.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago)
um look at the entire thread; I have not actually nominated a ton of stupid shit, jerkface
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago)
admittedly I have laughed at some apparently arbitrary rules that are not helping me understand what "metal" actually is, but the only thing I nominated on this list as an outright joke was the Eskimos & Egypt song
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago)
well thank you, ILX glitch
ilx is being well slow for me tonight, anyone else getting that?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago)
would also like to nominate a Devin Townsend track but JJ has thrown me for an absolute loop regarding which one I choose - will probably play it safe and go with
Ocean Machine (Devin Townsend) - Bastard
anything else?
oh yeah, shit haha
The Wildhearts - Sky BabiesThe Wildhearts - PissjoyThe Wildhearts - Do The Channel Bop
and uh um uhhh
Neurosis - From The HillNeurosis - Enclosure In FlameNeurosis - Through Silver In Blood
and
Ayreon - The Earth Extinction
I've overdone it haven't I
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago)
Oferchrissake only one Free and one Steppenwolf track?
Free - Walk in My ShadowFree - Mr. BigFree - Fire and WaterSteppenwolf - The PusherSteppenwolf - Monster/Suicide/AmericaRobin Trower Band - Bridge of SighsRobin Trower Band - Too Rolling Stoned
― ρεμπετις, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
are people really going to be voting for more than 1 or 2 tracks by bands? I can see why with sabbath,zep,metallica etc. Cuz I'd expect them to place.But oh well, I'd rather people voted for their top 50 (ranked) tracks ever than tactical voting.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago)
John no more vetoes for you then?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago)
Perhaps you could please change the title to Nominations end 11.59pm UK Time July 16th ?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
tactical voting is false metal xxxpost
truth be told i am suffering from a rampaging hangover after discovering that my bloody mary mix was greatly improved by the addition of heroic levels of vodka and experimenting to find the perfect balance by making uh like 6 of them? so i might need to search through once again with a clearer head
― t( :D t) (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 July 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
lulz.
Cheers for changing the title.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago)
If you want to stan for tracks meanwhile please head over to YOUTUBE Companion thread for ILM METAL/HEAVY ROCK TRACKS POLL
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 July 2010 00:59 (fourteen years ago)
I can't go on that thread as it makes my computer have seizures, but if you could put this on I'd be grateful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXmz_AphfGs
― emil.y, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:46 (fourteen years ago)
Oops. I didn't realise it would do that without url tags. Sorry!
― emil.y, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe a mod could remove that?
add the Kid Rock nom, jerkface!!!
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Friday, 16 July 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago)
also: no Prince or Teena Marie? y u brake xhuxk's <3, man!??
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Friday, 16 July 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago)
I thought Purple Rain might have got nommed actually
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 July 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
do you all want sex pistols in or out? majority wins.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 July 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
Sex Pistols IN.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 16 July 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
emil.y i'll post that youtube for you, but it's bloody awful.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
I assumed Prince would be vetoed, but ok then:
Prince - Purple RainPrince - When Doves Cry
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
I'd accept Purple Rain but would veto When Doves Cry on the basis that anything sampled by MC Hammer can't be Metal/Heavy Rock.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
I think Prince has some heavy rock tracks of which Purple Rain is one, however he is not a heavy rock artist, and not everything is eligible.
And If people veto it its vetoed.
Not allowing when doves cry
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
Pistols OUT. Of everything, from now until forever.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
Right, scratch When Doves Cry and give me:
Prince - Fury
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago)
pfunk pestered me into giving this a go after stating in the albums nom list I didn't really want to. Did a top 10.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
Its a min of 15!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
then throw it out.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
Or I bequeath 5 to J. Fever so we can maybe get some poodle tracks on.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago)
Prince?
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 16 July 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
POODLE TRACKS!
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
you can make 15, i have faith in you!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 July 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
Fever, drop me an email and tell me what your top 5 nominated poodle rock songs are. I'm not kidding!
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Sent.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
poodle rawk rulez! the rest is for fules!
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Friday, 16 July 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago)
Poodles have been added. The hair spray is burning my eyes, but I managed to reach 15 with the requested help.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago)
HOORAY
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago)
50 mins left to add noms
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 July 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
Neil young - hey hey my myNeil young - like a hurricane
― sofatruck, Friday, 16 July 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago)