Best Blockbuster Album - 1984

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...according to RIAA figures, number of charted singles, and omnipresence on radio and MTV. I'm sure I missed a few from this annus mirabilis. I included albums released late in '83 but didn't really make a chart/"cultural" impact until '84.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain 36
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. 21
Van Halen - 1984 9
Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual 8
Madonna - Madonna 7
The Cars - Heartbeat City 5
Pointer Sisters - Breakout 3
Culture Club - Colour By Numbers 1
Hall & Oates - Big Bam Boom 1
Wham - Make It Big! 1
Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down 0
Billy Joel - An Innocent Man 0
Huey Lewis and the News - Sports 0
Tina Turner - Private Dancer 0
Billy Ocean - Suddenly 0


Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

Went with Born in the U.S.A..

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)

born in the u.s.a. v. 1984 v. purple rain. probably the latter.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 12 July 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

I haven't heard the Joel album, but every one of these -- every one -- is at least very good or represents a peak for the artist.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

Purple Rain, but it was a basically a coin flip between that and Bruce

Brad C., Monday, 12 July 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

In retrospect I don't like Heartbeat City now as much as I did at the time. Springsteen and Prince obviously the front-runners here, although I could easily vote for Cyndi, Van Halen, Hall & Oates, Madonna or Billy Joel. I had all of those and still listen to at least the singles today.

Was the top 40 ever as eclectic as the mid to late 80s again?

Ultimately, I voted for Prince.

Phil D., Monday, 12 July 2010 00:48 (fifteen years ago)

Great year for blockbusters! It's between Colour By Numbers, She's So Unusual, Purple Rain, Madonna.

At the time I would've easily gone with Cyndi, but now I think Madonna's debut has passed the test of time the best.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 12 July 2010 00:49 (fifteen years ago)

It's also fascinating how magpies like Billy Ocean and the Pointer Sisters jumped on the post New Wave train and did just fine.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

I should add: I, a rather nerdy kid from NE Ohio with little exposure to music outside of commercial radio, spent the summer of 1984 visiting my dad, who was stationed in Hawaii at the time. I had one of those bright yellow Sports Walkman cassette players, which I took with me every day to the pool or the beach. I spent just about the whole summer listening to Prince and Springsteen, plus Stevie Nicks' The Wild Heart from the previous summer, over and over and over. My dad, in the car, listened had the Tina Turner and Huey Lewis records, plus the Eurythmics' Touch.

Phil D., Monday, 12 July 2010 00:52 (fifteen years ago)

Fuck! I forgot Touch! Thanks, Phil.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)

The Van Halen swan song gets my vote.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 July 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)

A better question to ask, I suppose, is which is the weakest. I don't own Sports, don't want to, and only need "If This Is It" and "Walking on a Thin Line."

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:57 (fifteen years ago)

this was hard but VH edges out Prince. about 5 of these tie for 3rd. good year.

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:58 (fifteen years ago)

Care to post your list, will?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

1984 was kind of incredible. I listened to Prince and Bruce a lot but Reckoning got more rotations.

Brad C., Monday, 12 July 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

i actually owned at one time or another Heartbeat City, Colour By Numbers, She's So Unusual, Purple Rain and Madonna. i think this will come down to the last two. impossible pick...going with Prince.

Boo Radley (Bee OK), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)

Purple Rain

iago g., Monday, 12 July 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

Alfred: probably something like-

Hall & Oates - Big Bam Boom
Wham - Make It Big!
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.
Culture Club - Colour By Numbers

I liked Sports a lot when I was 8, not sure how it would play for me now. I should give Heartbeat City another go, but the last time I put it on I was struck by how disappointing the non-singles are. The rest I don't think I've ever heard, outside of the blockbuster singles they spawned. I'm sure I would dig the Mads, Cyndi and Lionel though.

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:12 (fifteen years ago)

I should give Heartbeat City another go, but the last time I put it on I was struck by how disappointing the non-singles are.

But HC, like the other albums on this list, are top-heavy. Just about every track was a single.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)

* is top-heavy

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)

owned all of them except suddenly at one point (and an aunt owned suddenly so i heard it plenty also), only own prince, madonna, springsteen, van halen now. prince easy.

balls, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

some of these are definitely more chris bosh than dwyane wade

balls, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:16 (fifteen years ago)

tru. "magic", "drive", "you might think" and even "heartbeat city" are all pretty great in my book. i don't think i ever cared for "hello again" and the rest i can't even remember.

xxpost

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:18 (fifteen years ago)

probably 3 tiers and as the reckoning shoutout above reminds me 84 as much a freakishly good year for college radio as top 40 radio

balls, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:21 (fifteen years ago)

the cars (all of it not just this album) always sound like summer to me, as much as the beach boys or anything, and i'm not sure if it's an actual quality to the music (warm new wave) or just that one of my first strong associations with the band is ric ocasek walking on water in a swimming pool going 'summersummersummer SUMMER'.

balls, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:23 (fifteen years ago)

Helpful:

1985 Grammy Awards Album of the Year poll

The quality is so good that I could conceivably have voted for either one of those five.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:25 (fifteen years ago)

"Why Can't I Have You" from Heartbeat City is one of my favorite Cars songs and it salvages the album from the bad taste of the more bombastic tracks.

I voted Cyndi Lauper on the spur of the moment, because side one is nearly perfect.

making posts (Zachary Taylor), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

yeah at the time it was a HUGE UPSET that can't slow down won - beforehand it was understandably thought to be purple rain vs. born in the usa (this is when the grammys were a bigger deal than the oscars). now i'm amazed private dancer didn't win - that thing is a quintessential album of the year.

balls, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)

I've read at some point that this era is what wrecked the major lable system, and ended the long-development of careers. (Like Hall & Oates got.) After this, if you didn't break like Appitite For Destruction, you weren't ever get the time or funds to put together a Born to Run.

bendy, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)

But AFD took almost a year to break!

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but Appetite was their debut. h&o, bruce, prince, hell, even huey lewis & the news had a few records under their aelts before they became cultural behemoths.

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

belts

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

Another Lauper vote here.

I have actually never owned most of these albums, but felt familiar enough with so many singles from all of them to make an informed vote.

Dodo Lurker (Slim and Slam), Monday, 12 July 2010 01:53 (fifteen years ago)

it's not the birth of the blockbuster model (rumours = jaws here i think) or even the peak of it (which is probably the 90s or even turn of the century when top sellers went diamond as a matter of course)(the bodyguard ost = batman?) but i could see this as the era when the music industry think the blockbuster model is as suited to them as it is to the movie industry. it's not til that peak that i read interviews w/ label heads explaining that if an album didn't go platinum they would lose money if they released it and that really it didn't make any financial sense to bother w/ artists that didn't routinely sell double platinum (this is only a few years after nirvana had them so confused that boredoms and daniel johnston got major label deals). now of course the big huge blockbuster albums like taylor swift only go double platinum.

balls, Monday, 12 July 2010 01:57 (fifteen years ago)

1984 is also when music videos have finally saturated US culture, so there's suddenly this new vector to promote four or five singles from an album. If I recall, there was some suspense and novelty in just having established acts like Springsteen, Cars and Van Halen participating in MTV, to see what they'd do with the form. In 1982, MTV was still mostly a churn of two year old tracks from underselling new wavers.

bendy, Monday, 12 July 2010 10:15 (fifteen years ago)

One that got overlooked: Billy Idol - Rebel Yell

Came out in November 83, but all the singles charted in 84.

Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Monday, 12 July 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

Other than Madonna, none of these artists achieved a 4 singles from the album push again, did they? Bruce and Billy and Prince seemed to consciously retreat (Prince even refused to do a video for Raspberry Beret for a while).

bendy, Monday, 12 July 2010 10:40 (fifteen years ago)

Going with the one I liked best at the time: Breakout.

Eric H., Monday, 12 July 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

Other than Madonna, none of these artists achieved a 4 singles from the album push again,

Huey Lewis certainly did – note all the singles from Fore!. Also: Tina, Lionel Richie, George Michael, and Van Halen.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

George Michael

Yeah, the amount of hit singles off Faith is nuts - number US ones, a number two and a number five.

Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Monday, 12 July 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, the amount of hit singles off Faith is nuts - number US ones, a number two and a number five.

Yeah, the amount of hit singles off Faith is nuts - four US number ones, a number two and a number five.

Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Monday, 12 July 2010 12:13 (fifteen years ago)

I voted Cyndi Lauper on the spur of the moment, because side one is nearly perfect.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

Other than Madonna, none of these artists achieved a 4 singles from the album push again,

Huey Lewis certainly did – note all the singles from Fore!. Also: Tina, Lionel Richie, George Michael, and Van Halen.

wham! too, right? (wake me up, careless whisper, everything she wants, freedom)

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Monday, 12 July 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

I think bendy meant four-plus singles from an album released after 1984. Wham! certainly did from Music From the Edge of Heaven: "I'm Your Man," "A Different Corner," "The Edge of Heaven," and "Where Did Your Heart Go."

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

aha i see

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Monday, 12 July 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah that's what I meant. Some of the other bands continued to try pumping album tracks at a Thriller-level pace, but usually only one or two of the singles really connected. (which is the historical norm, innut?) It's weird how many of these 1984 albums were runaway successes. George Micheal definitely did it again as a solo artist.

It's surprising that Elton John didn't have a blockbuster in this time, and didn't leverage music videos particularly well. He had good songs to plug, but presented them without the 70s flamboyance.

bendy, Monday, 12 July 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

HI DERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh2hkTzcT7c

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 July 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

Off the top of my head, I'd probably go:

1. 1984
2. Madonna
3. Born In The USA
4. Can't Slow Down
5. Sports
6. Purple Rain
7. She's So Unusual

Thing about my Purple Rain challop is that I respect it more than I ever actually want to play it; would much rather listen to any of his four previous albums. (After the debut, I mean). Like a few others up there too. One I've played most this year is Sports.

xhuxk, Monday, 12 July 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

"Best" is probably Purple Rain but I've played that s/t Madonna album as much as any damn album on my shelves. Voting Madonna.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 12 July 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFq4E9XTueY

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

I've played Madonna more too, I should've voted for that, but Purple Rain is the one I can play all the way through in my head.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 03:39 (fifteen years ago)

And played 1984 nearly as much, ugh.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 03:40 (fifteen years ago)

Born in The USA for top one, definitely
Genius Springsteen

nicepockets, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 04:28 (fifteen years ago)

Difficult.

I'm never gonna do it without the Lex on (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 July 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

Among those I've heard, would probably go for the Cyndi Lauper album, though Purple Rain gives me second thoughts. The album that I have probably heard the most and haven't listened to in the longest time is Billy Joel's An Innocent Man. My mother loved that album, and five year old me probably heard it on a daily basis for like six months after she got it.
Nostalgia aside, this really is an incredible run of albums, with everyone trying to match Thriller and coming up with records brimming with dynamite material.

MumblestheRevelator, Thursday, 15 July 2010 03:19 (fifteen years ago)

in the longest time

ha ha.

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 July 2010 03:25 (fifteen years ago)

don't leave a tender moment alone.

I'm never gonna do it without the Lex on (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 July 2010 03:27 (fifteen years ago)

Purple Rain crushes all the rest of these.

Moodles, Thursday, 15 July 2010 03:42 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 17 July 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Voted Prince just ahead of The Cars, but these are all really great albums:

The Cars - Heartbeat City
Culture Club - Colour By Numbers
Billy Joel - An Innocent Man
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.
Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain
Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down
Madonna - Madonna
Hall & Oates - Big Bam Boom

Strictly speaking, the Lionel Richie, Billy Joel and Culture Club ones are actually from 1983, although I guess most of the sales happened in 1984.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 18 July 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

its really just cyndi, prince, and madonna for me. saw purple rain the day it came out, bought madonna album the week it was released, and saw cyndi live on her she's so unusual tour! but i haven't played cyndi in years. so its madonna and prince. purple rain i played just a few months ago for the first time in a looooong time and boy did it sound great. love those madonna songs so much though...i dunno. its a toss-up.

scott seward, Sunday, 18 July 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 18 July 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

No votes for Lionel.

Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

No votes for TIna!

strong boy burger (KMS), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)


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