S&D: Scott Walker/Walker Bros.

"if you need me to move thru', you know where i'm found / still alive,.... with my subhuman sound to the ground"

" 'til the band comes in, and the clouds begin to open / 'til the band comes in, and we hear them all as one / i'll be back again, if you promise that you'll write me / 'til the band comes rollin' in / dada dadah, dada dadah .."

*I'm sure this is a major component of your aesthetic, as it is of mine.

Tilt, very much included.

I am not really the gal to tell you what to search, because I will say something close to "EVERYTHING!". Definitely get Scott 1- 3, and Climate of the Hunter and the Moviegoer (if you can find them, both are kind of scarce) are worth looking into too.

The 70's material is a lot more forgettable, though I still cringe from using the word destroy.

B-b-but I find those covers very listenable indeed! (See: "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore")

I am studying for the Scott Walker tribute tonight with Mary. Today I will listen to:

Scott (= 1?)
Scott 2
Scott 3
Scott 4

Sister Ray had Tilt also but I was afraid.

I like it so far. It sounds like Bacharach/Divine Comedy/Morricone. Tonight should be fun!

Actually the whole four song stretch on the second side of this record, "You're All Around Me" => Dylan's "Love Minus Zero" => "I Don't Want to Hear it Anymore" => "Here Comes the Night", is as good as anything he was involved with.

some loony just gave me a VHS of every Scott tv appearance 67-95(I will let you know) He has the most brilliant career tragetctory(sp?) eva!

Next for my studies: St. Etienne or failing that the tribute, Ain't Etienne.

It's very noticeable when the 5th track comes on how much the creepy tone of the album changes. Some of the other songs aren't very apalling but just different. The singing is nowhere near as good as Scott's, but I do like "the Death of Romance," and some other aspects of some of the other songs. I think Maus' songs are the worst.

Has anyone heard Any Day Now?

New Scott Walker album: 'The Drift'

I'm not a fan myself, but I figure those who are will want to hear the audio versions of the two pilots for Walker's BBC show, which are here: http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/2009/01/scott-1.html.

holy christ I had no idea these two performed Scaggs' "We're All Alone."

How has there been no mention of the incredible "In Five Easy Pieces" box set? While it's missing a bit, it also has lots of stuff otherwise unavailable. And I personally love the themed discs.

Doris Day's "Love Him" from 1964 is the same song as the Walker Brothers "Love Her" from 1965 - with a very different arrangement. However what's interesting is that the intro sounds so much like Montague Terrace in Blue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HinOwpgK5U

Good catch.

Posted this elsewhere, but I was listening to the 1955 Frank Sinatra single, "Not as a Stranger" and noticed that Scott Walker's 1967 version of "Jackie" pretty much swipes the intro and outro of it. Curiously, Jacques Brel's 1966 original version, "Chanson de Jacky," has the same intro but not the same outro.

I chose 25 of these things.

You definitely have to hear 'Til the Band Comes In.

You don't rate "The Electrician"?

Not sure I've ever seen an interview with Scott Walker from the 60s before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXzLYglKHk

Nice find. So young! & beautiful. And quite relaxed

Der Art Zigeuner! :) Yeah lovely find. And a voice to die for.

Don't think I've ever gone from Destroy!! to Search!! as quickly as I just did with his version of "Maria Bethania"

oh nice. i didn't know his "lost" albums were streaming now

xpost
His singing, particularly in the verses, sounds so Julian Cope-y it hurts. Yes, quite prettyful.

...to say nothing about the Jehovahkill-y ad lib! Haha.

Singing it in a stupid accent was still not a good idea.

no. lovely arrangement but the accent does tip it. i wonder who translated it? maybe the stresses of a Portuguese song map differently with English and he found the only way to make it work without sounding stilted was by doing this accent? i'm probably giving him too much benefit of the doubt though

Yes, I suppose that could be the case. Though interestingly, to me anyway, Portuguese, unlike all other Romance languages, is stress-timed rather than syllable-timed and... so is English.

... something I found out recently!

Though Brazilian Portuguese might be different, of course.

they're really different as far as i know. i wanted to teach myself European Portuguese on Duolingo one time, but they only had the Brazilian version. Brazilian is spoken roughly as it's written, whereas Euro has much higher orthographic depth with loads of silent letters etc.

I wish a born and bred Jamaican or whatever would come here to complain about his, or Sting's, Jamaican or whatever accent. Not white saviours offended by proxy. End of story.
If stupid accents irk you, please delete all Roxy Music '72-'76.

No, stupid posts irk me and what the actual fuck are you on about?

Wow, triggered wrong rightener, what a surprise. Take your "fuck" and shove it in your ass, and go work on your frustration rather than trying to save the world by prescribing how others talk or don't, puppet.

I somehow don't think this is the right place for you.

i wonder who translated it?

Isn't the original in English? On Caetano Veloso's self titled (and mostly English language) 1971 album.

Yes it is!

ah, i didn't know - veloso is someone i keep telling myself i'll do a deeper dive into

as for "funny singing / accents", I admit "Apeman" is one of my favourite Kinks songs despite everything, so I've got a high tolerance for this sort of behviour depending on context. the whole Sting thing is such a preposterous flex that i've got to hand it to him for "sticking to the bit" no matter what - it's like he can't sing any other way. The arguable difference between people like Sting, Ray Davies or Scott Walker here compared to Bryan Ferry or David Thomas is that the latter aren't really "doing an accent", they've just developed an idiosyncratic way of singing. But then you could say "is Sting really doing a Jamaican accent, or is that just the way he sings - the Sting Accent"?

xposts - last message to Al Jardine from, haha, Mike Love I guess:
You don't know anything about me but you've already neatly boxed me in, and you're as pitifully wrong about that as haughty you are in your presumptions and prescriptions about doing accents. You don't like theatre, I suppose. Impersonations. People stepping in others' shoes for purposes other than belittling them. You be missing a hell of a lot about normal social life worth living out there.

I've rarely seen a more obvious case of projection in my life.

xpost doglatin - Yes, I agree. I'm aware of what you pointed out, and didn't intend to lump all accents-doing together indiscrimiately. I just wanted to point out that Al is showing a lack of imagination in appreciating an art as imaginative and resourceful as song. And to such an unimaginative person I'm just a Jordan-Peterson-calling-him-a-snowflake-kind-of-character red alert.

Scott Walker sings "Maria Bethania" in a stupid accent - who knows what accent he imagines he's singing in - but the song would be better he hadn't bothered singing it in a stupid accent. End of story.

I think he's - bear with me, as it does get comical - an American in England doing a Brazilian exile in England's English accent. With a questionable degree of success. But that's endearing to me, as he shows an interest for Caetano's story in the accent he chose to sing this in. When he could just as well not bother and sing this in his own customary Scott Walker accent. He plays along with the song, which indicates his interest in the song and whatever surrounds it. That's how this comes across to me.

flashbacks to my old band thinking it would be fun to memorise and sing the harmonies to "Nowhere Man", but then finding it impossible not to slip into the accent of the guy in this video youtube.com/watch?v=ryn689fW4c0&vl=en-GB

(xp) You could have said that instead of instantly going on the attack. You could also have avoided indulging in dubious memes like "white saviour", "triggered, "offended by proxy".

Haha, thanks, great video and fun tidbit. Well, we're imitative, actually, emulative creatures - we take on board the mannerisms of whoever is engaging to us. Plus, in doing covers we do know it's really hard to shake the original's style off. All the Nick Drake, David Sylvian, Bowie etc. copycats account for this. But that little failure is love expressed ultimately, isn't it. Same for me goes with Scott's "Bethania" cover.

xp to Al - sorry for that, then. In a world that's become a memic warzone I'm, it appears, as guilty as anyone to be a bit triggered by misreading the signals. Peace to you (from Mike Love :-D ).

By the way, it's ai jardine.

... which unfortunately doesn't really work very well.

Oh I see, so just the first letter capitalised. :-D
(seriously, cool name)