ILM July Madness: SWEET SIXTEEN - WEST/MIDWEST

Can, Joy Division/New Order, Bob Dylan, The Beatles

Notorious B.I.G., Joy Division/New Order, Kate Bush, The Beatles

Can, Stones, Kate, Beatles

JB vs. the Beatles ... I can't make this decision

I'm afraid things are about to get really fucking white after this round

Can vs. Notorious B.I.G.

this is like Ghana/Uruguay for me, where the Beach Boys = USA and Can = Ghana and so I am passively supporting Ghana-Can because I like them and "yeah go Africa" etc. but I am also not gonna be bitter if Biggie wins because I secretly want Can to lose simply because they beat the Beach Boys - even though I listen to / like Can more than Biggie.

Rolling Stones vs. Joy Division/New Order

I think the Rolling Stones' 1968-1973 period is flawless, but I've always liked the band and never loved them. JD/NO also sounds like a double degree I should be looking into or something.

Kate Bush vs. Bob Dylan

upset in the making? Kate Bush beat H&O by such a margin that I went from "maybe I should have left off Kate Bush" to "maybe I should have left off Hall and Oates." otoh she's against Bob Dylan.

The Beatles vs. James Brown

one thing I really like about The Beatles is that you hear them so often in public places. whenever I go to cafes or grocery stores or NYC rock clubs I get to hear The Beatles and it just makes my day so much better.

one thing I really like about The Beatles is that you hear them so often in public places. whenever I go to cafes or grocery stores or NYC rock clubs I get to hear The Beatles and it just makes my day so much better.

ROFLZ

Notorious B.I.G., Joy Division/New Order, Bob Dylan, James Brown

B.I.G. and Dylan easily for me, but the other two killed me. Already maybe regretting picking New Order over the Stones, but on a fundamental level I find New Order more likable than the Stones, who I often hate even when I obsess over them. I was prepared to go for Beatles over Brown, but then I though about "Hot Pants" and then I listened to "Hot Pants" and then I felt like I could listen to that groove forever without getting tired of it and then I used a random number generator and decided evens meant Beatles and odds meant Brown and then I voted for Brown.

I voted for JB just to annoy Geir

ok wait now i want to change my vote

Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, James Brown

Well, I just voted Can, JD/NO, Kate Bush, James Brown, but now I'm thinking about who I listen to more, and maybe I should have gone for Dylan.

Can, Stones, Dylan, Beatles.

Beatles vs. James Brown was just sick.

Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, James Brown

Love the Beatles, but if I was forced to choose between Star Time and any four random Beatle albums, Star TIme would win every time.

Notorious B.I.G., Joy Division/New Order, Bob Dylan, The Beatles

Can, Joy Division/New Order, Kate Bush, The Beatles

I'm not a really avid fan of Biggie, but I can count on one hand the number of Can tracks I really like (I love none).

did i really vote for New Order/Joy Divison over the Rolling Stones?

i should kill myself NOW

Biggie, Stones, Kate, Beatles.

Can, Joy Division/New Order, Kate Bush, James Brown

so easily.

if bob dylan and kate bush actually duked it out bob dylan would start by whining and twanging on his acoustic guitar and kate would be like blam blam on her piano and drown him out with her pipes, then bob dylan would be like "a-haaa!" and pull out his electric guitar and half his pussy fanbase would cry and go home and he'd strum his guitar and it would sound a little buzzier and crunchier but kate would pull out a massive synth and it'd go "blaaaaooowwww" and she'd go "waaaaah-ooooooooooo!" and his hair would blow back and turn grey and then he'd blow on his harmonica and kate would get a headache and then be really angry and she'd go "sccrrrreeeeeeeeee!" and lighting would shoot out of the sky and destroy bob dylan. Then she'd sit on the beach and watch the wind and the water and the sand erode his body in the golden light of an eternal sunset.

^^^ http://noq.ccrepair.net/images/motivators/nerds.jpg

Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, The Beatles. I like a couple of Can songs but don't get what the big deal is. I love NO tons and tons but c'mon. I don't see myself voting against Dylan in any poll. JB vs Beatles is kinda tough but not really.

biggie, stones, dylan, jb

booooooo @ everyone voting against kate bush and joy division!

tbh i don't really listen to the stones or dylan or kate or jd/no and aren't passionate about either matchup, i mostly just voted the ones i know a bit better in those cases

really the only acts in this round i care about are big, jb, & the fabs

Notorious B.I.G., Joy Division/New Order, Bob Dylan, The Beatles

Notorious B.I.G., Joy Division/New Order, Kate Bush, James Brown

if bob dylan and kate bush actually duked it out bob dylan would start by whining and twanging on his acoustic guitar and kate would be like blam blam on her piano and drown him out with her pipes, then bob dylan would be like "a-haaa!" and pull out his electric guitar and half his pussy fanbase would cry and go home and he'd strum his guitar and it would sound a little buzzier and crunchier but kate would pull out a massive synth and it'd go "blaaaaooowwww" and she'd go "waaaaah-ooooooooooo!" and his hair would blow back and turn grey and then he'd blow on his harmonica and kate would get a headache and then be really angry and she'd go "sccrrrreeeeeeeeee!" and lighting would shoot out of the sky and destroy bob dylan. Then she'd sit on the beach and watch the wind and the water and the sand erode his body in the golden light of an eternal sunset.

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, July 16, 2010 6:38 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

<3 <3 <3

fever/lynskey otm. sorry jagger

Can, Stones, Kate, James Brown

heh, found myself voting for artists in this round that I'd never have considered voting for in the prev one

Can, couldn't give a hoot, Kate Bush, James Brown

Can, Joy Division/New Order, Kate Bush, The Beatles

― Bee OK, Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:44 PM (Yesterday)

^^^^^^^^^^

Can, Stones, Dylan (but don't care much either way), Brown

I'm voting Can, and that's about as far as I've got. Both acts in the other 3 pairs are big canonical bands that I like a few things by, don't like the omg genius reverence surrounding, and can't get too worked up about either way.

Can, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, The Beatles

I think my Americanness is showing in this round. I just haven't been all that exposed to New Order (outside of a couple of huge hits, and yes I know the Stones are not American) or Kate Bush. Though karl's awesome post almost persuaded me to vote for her anyway.

Biggie, Joy Division/New Order, Dylan, Beatles.

Can, JD/NO, Dylan, Beatles

Can, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, The Beatles

could have gone either way on Rolling Stones/JD/NO. These days I'm just more into the Stones

Can, Joy Division/New Order, Bob Dylan, The Beatles

I don't like Joy Division much, but I like the NO that I like better than the RS I like. Wish that JB had been paired up with someone else this early. He's a real heavyweight in my pantheon, but can't hold up to all the nostalgia and emotion tied up in the Beatles.

I don't like Can as much as any of these guys, but I like them better than Biggy. Thinking back about it though, I wish I could vote for Beach Boys instead of them, but what can you do.

yeah some of these pairings are really a bummer - pissed that Can knocked out the BB's by ONE VOTE.

also - is it me or does anyone else suspect that after this round on it's gonna be all white folks

Can had a black guy... what am I talking about, they had three!

Can vs. Biggie is a bit unfair on Biggie IMO. Now Biggie vs. Kate Bush, I would have relished.

xpost to Shakey

Could be. I voted for Stevie and Prince in the other bracket and would be kind of shocked if they both lost--do people really like Steely Dan with that much passion? JB versus the Beatles is harsh though--I'm with kkvgz: I can't not vote for the band I first became aware of as a band, the Beatles are just too important for how I got into music as a thing in the first place.

Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, The Beatles

is it me or does anyone else suspect that after this round on it's gonna be all white folks

Prince may have a good chance (hopefully), and I'd say Stevie's about 50/50. And yeah, Can weren't all white, so whoever wins out of that battle, there's still at least one non-white person left in the competition.

There are only 3.5 females left in the running at the moment, which is pretty piss-poor (Nico counts as a .5, btw).

I think Stevie's gonna get his ass handed to him

Prince vs. the Dan is a much closer call - thinking the poptimist crew might tip it in Prince's favor, since he's more acceptable to them as an influential presence on current pop trends than aging coked-out rockers the Dan

Yeah, I don't want to nitpick these polls too much--"canon" talk can devolve tediously, and these are just a diverting excuse to tell Smiths fans they suck. But, it occurs to me that all of these bands are from (iirc) either the US, the UK, Germany, or Sweden. Which is kinda weird.

xp
emil.y: are you counting Moe Tucker too?

and not just in the lol77 way

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2711/bracketsv6.jpg

deej otm

y does ilm hate black people

otm -- losses for biggie, james brown AND kate bush

i hate this fucking poll

oh no wait i hate you guys, the poll itself could have been ok

this is so mad

Beatles should've been matched up against pizza.

Who's afraid of the big brown bush?

Beatles should've been matched up against pizza.

Thin-crust or thick-crust?

Can, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, The Beatles 18

FU WHITEY

FU WHITEY

http://www.muzprosvet.ru/graphics/can-michael-malcolm.jpg

JD/NO are about 41738912491349x whiter than the Stones

but let's not get into this ffs

FU WHITEYS

http://www.geraldjenkins.co.uk/media/uploads/2009/09/630/14-malcom-mooney-damo-suzuki-2007-web-jpg.jpg

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

should have been my response as well tbh

Especially seeing as your initial response made absolutely no sense whatsoever (unless you've secretly done some genetic history work on both bands and are quietly announcing the results here).

I was referring only to the music tbh

Erm, yes. Exactly.

FU WHITEY

http://home.swipnet.se/rollingstones/pics2/keith_ron_darryl.jpg

ok MOSTLY to the music

this is all silly

I recognise that you are making a statement about the music that each respective band makes, but what criteria exactly are you using to quantify this 'whiteness'? Is it possible for colour/racial identity to inhere in soundwaves?

FU WHITEY

http://www.maccafan.net/Gallery/GetBackRehearsals/Preston.jpg

aw cmon Emil.y yr being a trifle obtuse here - I don't want to spell it out but JD/NO do not play the blues in any traditional sense

So what you are saying is not 'JD/NO are about 41738912491349x whiter than the Stones' but rather 'the Rolling Stones create music whose inspiration can be located in the spectrum of music made by African migrants'.

New Order hugely influenced by black dance music surely peoples wtf.

my initial post was lazy hyperbole brought on by 4 hours' sleep and a GP surgery

oh god stop it stop the madness

Holy shit, what kind of surgery did you have Louis?

lol I was just having a coupla small moles looked at coz of melanoma history in the family - nothing to be worried abt

it does however mean I am like 0.005% more black than I used to be

I thought you'd actually become a GP and not told us

vote LJ

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/67/D77BB7FD-81D7-40F2-9777-CFD03BC59ABF/42-18323624.jpg

xxxp: O_O Jesus christ.

Anyway, I had no idea that Malcolm Mooney was black! His name sounds very, very British to me, so I assumed that was where they got him.

Yes, whoever heard of a black guy called Malcolm...

Sure, you have Malcolm X, but on the U.K. side you've got Malcolm McDowell, Malcolm Young, and Malcolm McLaren.

There are so many aberrations in this poll. I have no clue how Joy Division/New Order lost to the Stones, and I don't even like Joy Division! Seems weird to imagine a bunch of ilxors sitting at home listening to Wild Horses or jamming out to It's Only Rock 'n Roll (But I Like It).

Malcolm Mooney does have the ring of Malcolm Muggeridge about it

Malcolm Muggeridge fronting Can would have been something to see

O_O Jesus christ.

yeah suggest ban me if you want be a hero

post-'exile' rolling stones POLL (studio albums)

lots of ilx luv on stones threads

LJ, I would never sb you. You have been sb'd enough.

I'd have voted for Can if they were fronted by Malcolm X.

also fu whitey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfi7ME_Y5Vs

post-'exile' rolling stones POLL (studio albums)
lots of ilx luv on stones threads

― iatee, Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:57 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

100 votes on that poll vs. like 91 for this one:

by special request -- NEW ORDER POLL (closes 05/14/2007)

vs. 71 for What's the best Beatles album !

right I'm not saying they're the most popular band on this site or whatever, just that it's not that hard to imagine lots of people sitting at home rocking out to them, esp cause there's a bunch of threads that are like "oh man I am rocking out to exile" or whatever.

I woulda guessed bowie would be in their spot, however

Yeah, no, I mean I don't begrudge anybody liking the Stones and I like a little Stones myself. It just seems like JD/NO would be more attractive to the ilxor general population as I imagine it in my head. Obviously this poll proves me wrong.