Eminem - I can't stand him, why is he so praised?

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I find his music annoying, his voice annoying, his rhymes stupid and him in general to be a piece of shit? So why is he regarded so highly and does anyone else despise him like I do?

― Chris, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I somehow suspect this will result in a more fraught thread than the Beatles one. [My own THORT -- he can be a really good producer of his own material, and that's about it.]

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Right now there is nothing i find more annoying than that "Look who's back, look who's back, look who's back" thing.

― Chris, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Folks who don't listen to "that kind of music" have their attention forced towards it by hype machine; are caused to shout "he is GREBT!"

― Colin Meeder, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

After all the fuss about this character, I was quite taken aback when I finally heard his (first?) album last summer:
I expected a Pit Bull Terrier - what I got was Scooby Doo.

― Ray M, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Which is to say the Shock of the New, but the only thing new is you, finding out about it.

― Colin Meeder, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Homophobia and misogyny become "cutting edge" when the majority of the population aren't intelligent enough to understand the avant garde.

― maria, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder how many of you who don't like him haven't actually heard an album... If you've heard only the singles, I'd say that they aren't very representative of him. Basically, it boils down to this: if you like sick, perverse humor, then there's a good chance you'll like him. If not, you'll find it offensive and stupid and so on. I didn't like him at all until my roommate lend me the Mashall Mathers LP. I was an instant convert after I realized that his lyrics are often more intelligent than those of most rappers. Plus, I thought his outrageous humor was quite funny. Anyways.

― Manny Parsons, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

if you like sick, perverse humor, then there's a good chance you'll like him

Good chance but no guarantee, trust me. He's no Bierce.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, we had a 70's rapper called Bernard Manning who was like that.

'Shock of The New' - what, Eminem as Modern Art ?
Why not, eh ?
(Time for ArfArf & mark s to pick this up.)
PS - There's nothing new about Scooby Doo.

― Ray M, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Good things about Eminem - catchy beats, unusual voice, good flow and obvious love of rhyme and how words sound, unusually self-deprecating (in between the bragging), marries public life and work more interestingly and explicitly (and sometimes infuriatingly) than any other pop star, unusually self-aware, nihilistic/narcissistic persona feels (or felt) timely and relevant.

Bad things about Eminem - obsessive woman-hatred, casual homophobia, poor editing.

― Tom, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I like my rappers to have bigger penises...

― maria, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

marries public life and work more interestingly and explicitly (and sometimes infuriatingly) than any other pop star

Actually a particular bugaboo of mine, though less because of the fact that it happens in general (because that's actually quite all right) than because I don't think his 'public life' is all that. On that level I see zilch in the way of fascination, and am bemused at the amount of attention it gets. I wonder if that kind of interest is required to enjoy him all told?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think your hate is way too strong to be simply a result of anything Eminem's done. I think he's just great, and I wish the "kids" would stop liking him so he can direct himself to the adults who are his presumed audience, taking into account the parental advisories.

― Matt Riedl (veal), Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the idea that certain recordings or movies or whatever get official warnings for parents not to see or hear them.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom is OTM, though I'd go even further on his flow - I think he is among the great rappers. And the way he undermines his own points and complicates and denies every reading of him is fascinating - how much this is deliberate intelligence and how much someone messing around in a hypertextualised etc. I neither know nor care (the latter, probably). I am more interested in what he says than in almost anyone else in pop, despite loathing his misogyny and homophobia. He has nothing to tell us of interest in these simple sociopolitical terms, but I think as evidence of the relevance of many late-20th century litcrit theories, he's almost peerless.

― Martin Skidmore, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Eminem is a relatively clever even original rap lyricist ('Stan' being a good example) who makes relatively entertaining records. I dont think you can have an upbringing like he has had and not end up being a bitter old c*nt cynical to the extreme and taking his scant opportunity to make a fortune for himself and his daughter and homies (D12). He is probably more savvy than those who came before him when it comes to anticipating how fame will change him and seems to regard this as par for the course in the quest for true 'hall of fame' greatness. I have no interest in listening to tracks in which he talks/boasts about himself (ok thats pretty much ALL his tracks but then there's not many rappers who dont do that) but he does occasionally bring into the mainstream issues regarding the media and society that will continue to require confrontation and resolution - and that was something hip hop was really designed for. Sure his voice is annoying but without him what would all those bootleggers have done eh?

― , Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

par for the course in the quest for true 'hall of fame' greatness

Is this really his aim? I'm not being flip here, it's just a strange way to phrase it as I see it.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

When his first record came out and I didn't listen to much hip-hop at all, I didn't see what was so great about him. After absorbing the music and hanging around people who were doing it (hence realizing how hard it is to do well) for a few years I really began to appreciate his flow. A lot. Since he is among the artists now who people who don't generally listen to hip-hop are certain to hear, I can see how this would be a common reaction.

Also, while I could of course do without the misogyny and such, he does get in a hell of a lot of funny punchlines.

― Jordan, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Well put, Martin.

― charlie va, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

If Eminem's all about getting real paid (which, to be honest, is the sole aim of a good 40% of rappers), fair enough, fair play to him, it beats working as a mechanic or telesales rep. It's when we start imbuing him with some sort of artistic merit it pisses me off. A lot of Eminem's early praise (and a certain degree of his current, although the critical wheels pretty much fell off with the last album) came from the fact that music journalists are, on the whole, white male middle class middlebrow men who hate women and gays, and were happy for someone to come along and share their views, whilst putting it to a pop beat so they could use the "it's just pop music! Look, some seven year olds like it, so it must be good" arguement.

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think he's pretty great for similar reasons to the ones given by Tom and Martin. Although it now seems fashionable to damn Dre's production on the first two albums with faint praise I still think it's intermittently brilliant. I can't take the proposition that Eminem is a threat to civilised values seriously - I know it's a cliched defence, but he IS a cartoon character.

On the other hand I've been in vehement arguments with people who really, really loathe him and have had nil success in moderating their opions even marginally. And when women or gays tell me I'm condoning misogyny or homophobia by defending him I don't have a satisfactory answer. So I've completely given up on trying to defend him to people who can't see or won't acknowledge his talent: it's just not worth the grief.

― ArfArf, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there is a danger in viewing the pro/anti-split in terms strictly about offended parties -- it negates the possibility that one just might not find him a particularly compelling MC to start with. And I frankly don't; he could be the politest and most straightforwardly PC guy on the planet and I wouldn't think much of him as a performer. I don't buy the talent argument, or perhaps more accurately, I don't buy the argument that assumes that technical talent automatically equates the need to love his work. I really do think he's incredibly boring, straight up.

I invoked Clapton once a while back as a comparison, so let me elaborate a bit -- Clapton and, say, Billy Corgan are both technically skilled guitarists who know their chosen instruments very well. But Corgan I have endless time for and Clapton puts me to sleep. Likewise, Eminem and, say, Jay-Z are both technically skilled MCs, but for me Jay-Z leaps out from his productions as a commanding personality with a fluid voice, something I just don't get from Eminem at all. On The Eminem Show I get thrilled by some great arrangements -- but he's just this indifferent presence.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing is, no Eminem flow has ever moved me. You could make the argument that hip-pop flows aren't meant to be linguistic masterpieces, but even when listening to his early stuff, even some of his early battles, he doesn't have the "Shit- did you hear that!" quality that marks out a great rapper. Ned's right, Eminem has all the things they teach you in hip hop 101 to be an MC (wordplay, metas, punches, disses, etc etc) but it doesn't come together. The bottom line is that, take away the beats, the production, the controversy, the hype, and Eminem is, at best, an average MC.

And I dread this getting googled.

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

on the whole, white male middle class middlebrow men who hate women and gays, and were happy for someone to come along and share their views, whilst putting it to a pop beat so they could use the "it's just pop music! Look, some seven year olds like it, so it must be good" arguement.

"On the whole, Eminem's detractors are white middle class middlebrow men who couldn't give a fuck about misogyny or homophobia until they become useful hammers to beat a pop sensation with?"

Which of these statements is truer, eh readers?

― Tom, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(Ans: Neither are, much)

― Tom, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

a good 40% of rappers!

sorry, I had to play ethan

― Dare, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"On the whole, Eminem's detractors are white middle class middlebrow men"

One out of four, not bad...

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Dom, I was replying to you - cause I thought your point was a stupid generalisation - not referring to you. (Unless your point was meant to be personal too, and you're seriously suggesting that I'm using a liking for pop to disguise secret misogyny and homophobia in which case I'd like either evidence or an apology)

― Tom, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Marshall is funny chap. he seems fairly savvy in interview, and the music is okay - the content, however, can be undesirable on occasion, which leads me to wonder if he's courting controversy for the attendant publicity. Nothing new there! i must alos confess amazement at the observation that few people have fused their public with their private life so well - blimey, Marilyn Manson was doing it, and employing similar shock tactics a few years earlier. And like manson, i am convinced that bulk of the audeince are white males in their ealry teens. i teach kids and all the boys love Eminem. The sight of them clutching the crotch of their pants and perfectly mimiicing Without Me is a tad disturbing, but only a tad.

― Andrew, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Eminem's stance on misogyny/homophobia is an interesting crticism because I always read an implied criticism of these by the time of the Marshall Mathers LP, ie., if you take a persona of woman-hating and gay-bashing as far as it will go, then say anyone who will willingly pay money for this is "a fucking retard" , then the issue is more confused than can be summed up by just saying yes, he's misogynistic, no, he isn't, yes, he is..

I like him a lot when he isn't coasting. Which seems entirely too often, unfortunately; haven't got around to buying The Eminem Show yet, will do sometime..

The biggest Eminem fan I know is gay. ("some of my best friends are gay!") Eminem seems kind of the inverse of the 'does a artist having values which seem offensive/morally evil/just plan wrong to you turn you off his work, even if they aren't implicit in his work?' question: 'does an artist who in person doesn't hold these opinions but in the course of his work personifies them turn you off his work?'

Eminem's line on why he's regarded so highly is that he's white. This is what he says, himself, there must be SOME truth in it.. I think that what he does with personas is interesting - his personas have personas! - but very little else that he's done is remarkable (if "remarkable" = "new") other than for the fact that it's being done by a white guy.

― thom, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah Tom, no personal attack meant. I meant the pantheon of the mainstream music journalists, the beloved Oxbridge graduates that pass judgement on our cultural beings. The second bit was more cynical than anything, these Eminem threads make me laugh, everyone runs into their little bunkers and refuses to listen to what the other side has to say.

Can we agree that "Devil's Night" was cock, though?

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

How is his homophobia a problem and not say him making fun of dead celebrities or Dick Cheney's heart problem? Don't you have to kind of eat him whole as it were?

― Ronan, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Interesting choice of metaphor. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

My point being hasn't he said so many things which are conventionally unacceptable that it lessens all their impact, or at least if you take offence at one aspect it seems a little odd to manage to like him at all unless there is a varying personal priority list for getting offended.

― Ronan, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't bother buying it. I still don't think most mainstream music journos are secret anyone-haters (self-haters maybe heh) but I see your point and I'm glad it wasn't personal. Yeah discussion is more polarised than usual on Eminem threads.

The fusing public-private thing - Marilyn Manson's last album wasn't as far as I know as much of a, well, web journal style work than the Eminem Show. Pretty much anything that has happened publically to Eminem in the last 18 months is there in (often tiresome) detail on TMS - you need to have been following everything in order to 'get' half of what he's talking about, but if you have been following everything you're part of his fuckin' problem! I should have put this in 'good about Eminem' (it's an interesting approach) AND in 'bad about Eminem' (who honestly wants to hear 3 tracks about his court case?)

― Tom, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Eminem and Manson are both trying to do the same thing: shock you with the truth. Now, how succesful they are at this...

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry julio, i agree with Arf Arf (i also suspect we agree more often than either of us think: we just say things in mutually maddening ways, for some reason)

i think em is terrific and i think he's troubling, and those two things are wound right into one another

― mark s, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

pete case has better flow.

― keith, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know a lot at all about hip-hop. Could someone explain what it is about Eminem's flow that makes it great? (I assume that "flow" basically means the rhythm and tone of his delivery. If I'm mistaken please correct me.) I'm not even necessarily disputing this claim, I just want to know what I should be listening for. If he's really technically accomplished what are the techniques he's mastered?

― sundar subramanian, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"If he's really technically accomplished what are the techniques he's mastered?"

These phrases in conjunction with Eminem make me smile...

― Mary, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Sundar, he is amazing with internal rhymes without making it obvious - plenty of MCs have internal rhymes, but a lot of them seem very self- consciously trying to Futher the Evolution of Flow as an Artform. Eminem avoids this, while still managing to have complex rhymes. Kind of like the best art-rock (I'm thinking Roxy Music), it's very much rock, but when you get down to it there's some seriously weird stuff going on, and not just on a musical level. Also, like John Bonham (surely someone you yourself can appreciate, Sundar ;-), he falls behind the beat sometimes (certainly intentionally) to great effect.

― Clarke B., Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Funny how Em gets called out for misogny and homophobia when its in so much more hip hop as well. Less an excuse, more an observation.

― bnw, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

He manages to do interesting and not commonplace things rhythmically while keeping his words completely intelligible and syllabically falling on beats that still feel natural. Or something.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"...while keeping his words completely intelligible..."

There's a pretty loaded thought. Is Eminem less about race than about dialect?

― Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

bnw - casual homophobia is pretty endemic to hip-hop, but Eminem is (I think) unique when it comes to the manner of his misogyny - grand guignol rants directed against named and identifiable women which then occasionally spiral out into broad attacks on all women. A lot of sexism in hip-hop boils down to 'women are great to fuck (but who cares about them as people)' - the virulence of Em's material is quite rare.

― Tom, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

But I would have said that it's a bit inconsistent to find his sexism or homophobia troubling and to actually still like Eminem. I mean, isn't making fun of dead people troubling too? Aids references? Rape references? Murder references?

As I said before, is it possible to pick and choose with Eminem? Or if it is, justify it to me.

The reason I like Eminem so much is because I see him as this massive whole, this vast spewing mix of ALL the opinions, prejudices, jokes, whatever. He works for me based on his seeming hatred for everything, his constant grumpines coupled with his jokes and his self deprecation. I think you can't split up one line from another.

Also noone complains about him mocking Dick Cheney's heart problem, I mean are politics really that significant here? Is it ok cos Dick is such a dick?

― Ronan, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel like Marvin Monroe in that Simpsons where Marge is against itchy and scratchy and then in favour of the statue of david, except eminem is itcy, scratchy and the statue all rolled into one.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Why is it cool for Eminem to be inconsistent and not for his listeners to be?

― Tom, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

In what sense do you mean Eminem is inconsistent?

― Ronan, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: "intelligible", not a matter of dialect at all, I just meant that it's hard for any mc to enunciate and really articulate his phrases when doing fast syncopated lines, and Eminem happens to be really good at it.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Might as well bump... I was listening to him the other day at a friend's house. Hmmm... "I Don't Give A Fuck" is good, but... eh, he can do better. You can tell in that track that the mithering hip- pop shite he peddles nowadays is there just so he can cash in.

And all these people who find his flow "amazing, look how many words and disparate thoughts he ties in...", these people would have a fucking seizure if they ever heard, say, Gift of Gab.

― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

c'mon, Em's obviously one of the most skilled rappers on the planet. he's easily on the same level as Gift of Gab, as well as Mikah 9 and Aceyalone, Andre 3000, Pharoahe Monch, Supernatural, Eyedea, half the Wu, Jigga, etc etc. have you heard the man's freestyles? it's all the more jarring that he's as mainstream as he is, but it certainly doesn't (shouldn't) detract from his skills.

― ryan, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

Just borrowed a copy of The Marshall Mathers LP. I'm glad I didn't buy it. Most of it is just too offensive to be entertaining to me. Disturbing, yes, but not entertaining. Art, yes, but not a soundtrack I want for my life (or for other lives I could imagine wantng to live). The misogyny and homophobia are particularly disturbing, but then that's part of the reason I mostly stopped listening to hip-hop a long time ago.

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 1 November 2002 03:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay. . . I've listened to this some more and I have to admit some of it is already growing on me. I don't necessarily like it, but I am walking around with the rhythms of his rapping going through my head. I still doubt it's something I'd want to listen to many times, but I'm not going to pretend I don't hear some interesting things going on in it.

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 1 November 2002 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

''Okay. . . I've listened to this some more and I have to admit some of it is already growing on me. I don't necessarily like it, but I am walking around with the rhythms of his rapping going through my head.''

ah, see, you shouldn't have given a listen now should you? and now its prob too late to get you off.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

"Without Me" clicked for me today. I really liked "White America" the first time I heard it.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Eminem is a lyrical genius. His brilliance is that he can take normal words and pronouce them in a way that makes them rhyme when they shouldn't. Take a look at his lyrics and just READ them on paper and they don't sound like they should flow together at all, but when you actually hear the song, everything works perfectly. It's phenomenal.

― Evan, Saturday, 2 November 2002 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Take a look at his lyrics and just READ them on paper

A distressing prospect.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

if there's anything more pathetic than compromising your artistic integrity to make mainstream audiences love you, it's compromising your artistic intregrity to make mainstream audiences hate you.

― Curtis Stephens, Sunday, 3 November 2002 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't think that is more pathetic (also i don't think it's what em is in fact doing, but that's another argt)

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 3 November 2002 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

em has integrity?

did he lose it when he got back together with kim?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 3 November 2002 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It feels empty without him, it feels empty with him.

― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 3 November 2002 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"We're not going to let artistic integrity get in the way of our success" - the girls of W.I.T. (granted, they have neither)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 3 November 2002 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

mr eminem, he's the boy version of madonna in the 90's, he comes straight out in his lyrics, and that is what makes it a good song.
he may shock people, but i think hes produces his music wonderfully.
he has many fans, so what do u say about that.

― helen koskinas (helen koskinas), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I say "Hello Eminem's many fans!"

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Eminem's many fans will make you all pay

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

he has many fans, so what do u say about that.

I say, you all need some serious help.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 13 December 2002 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

They're both blond!

― Sean (Sean), Friday, 13 December 2002 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

mr eminem, he's the boy version of madonna in the 90's, he comes straight out in his lyrics

His lyrics do sort of out him, but I don't know if they're all that straight.*

*I do like Eminem kinda

― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 13 December 2002 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Em proves Derrida's assertion that "Monsters cannot be announced. One cannot say: 'here are our monsters', without immediately turning the monsters into pets." Em is one paid pet though.

― Sam C, Friday, 13 December 2002 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I find his music annoying, his voice annoying, his rhymes stupid and him in general to be a piece of shit? So why is he regarded so highly and does anyone else despise him like I do?
-- Chris

What a moronic thread this is. Are you asking why people have different musical tastes then you?

― David Allen, Friday, 13 December 2002 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.kissfm.com/timages/page/moby.jpg

― Tom Millar (Millar), Friday, 13 December 2002 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

It's no less annoying (maybe much less so) than your thread on "feminist rants," Dave-y boy.

― hstencil, Friday, 13 December 2002 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

It's no less annoying (maybe much less so) than your thread on "feminist rants," Dave-y boy.
If you saw the thread, I repented in it.

However this idiocy WILL NEVER END EVER.

― David Allen, Saturday, 14 December 2002 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

hey.i didnt say straight.......i said straight out as his mum popping pills and fudging debbie.he says it and we hear it.

― helen koskinas (helen koskinas), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you asking why people have different musical tastes then you?

I don't like him, I was wondering if there was anyone else who dislikes him as well? Where the hell did you get musical tastes out of this.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

Any idiot can rap. Every scumbag is a rapper. They are all stupid freaks with bad parents who take their anger out on the world which they think owes them a living. Tupac, Eminem, any of them. They are all the same bunch of pansies. They hype their image on attempting to be controversial when there is nothing controversial about them at all. Plain and simple FREAKS!!!! I know Eminem is nothing to do with this thread but I might as well add that he is so obviously a latent homosexual. "I am whatever you say I am" - how gay can you get for Gods sake! Its like that song, "I am what I am". Eminems song is probably a gay anthem by now.

BEST POST EVER

― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you a young girl? Stupid? Not very interested in music? Think men who would probably smack you around the face in real life are "cute"? Then why not buy an Eminem record?

― CRW (CRW), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

Somehow never saw this before....what a bizarre review in both rating & content.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/2771-the-eminem-show/

― Tim. E "LazRus" Lucas (Prose b4 Hoes...and Big Hoos), Saturday, 28 August 2010 10:28 (fourteen years ago)

― Tim. E "LazRus" Lucas (Prose b4 Hoes...and Big Hoos)

what is going on here?

― let diddy cook (The Reverend), Saturday, 28 August 2010 10:35 (fourteen years ago)

SB'd "Chris" just in case

― Widow of Opportunity (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 August 2010 10:37 (fourteen years ago)

this is all so suspicious....that review is classic trife tho!

― i got what t.rex turok the mic right (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 August 2010 13:57 (fourteen years ago)

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