ILM July Madness: FINAL FOUR ---------- (TAKE TWO, vote again if you voted in that other one, sorry)

argh, not my night:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1471/bracketfinalfour.jpg

other thread went like this iirc:

Stones vs. Beatles = easiest single decision so far...Beatles

VU vs. Prince = as I said before *feel free to incorporate solo albums* - doing so leaves you with 10-15 A++ classic VU albums whereas Prince has like 9 maybe. also: remember the stuff Prince said about gay people recently. you are also allowed to take that into your decision making process.

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OTOH you are not allowed to incorporate anything lou reed has ever said, ever

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:12 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Stones, Velvets

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:15 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Beatles, Prince obv

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:15 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I honestly don't care that Prince hasn't made a spectacular album in over 20 years. It's been even longer than that for either Reed or Cale. As for Beatles vs. Stones... Beatles easy.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:16 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Beatles, Velvet Underground

― Bee OK, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:16 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

two of my favorite artists vs two i barely give a shit about

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:16 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wrong way up and songs for drella are 20 and 21 years old

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:17 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

xp Bitter much?

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:17 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fragments of a rainy season is 18!

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:19 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

uh, it's not as if just started not caring about vu after they beat stevie

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:19 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and they beat him so hard

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:19 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sun Ra, Oum Kalthoum

― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:20 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually I think the 3 VU results were the 3 biggest margins so far

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:21 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Honestly I am bit surprised by the outpouring of VU love in these polls.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:21 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Songs for Drella = zzzzz. I never even bothered listening to Wrong Way Up.

I actually kind of like Lou Reed's sporadic run from 1989-2000, but I wouldn't call any of them spectacular. Cale's been asleep since Music for a New Society.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:22 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wrong way up is 100% classic imo

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:24 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Anyway, like I said before, I could put all the VU songs I like on a single cd. They were capable of greatness, but just as easily capable of non-greatness. (This is true for Prince as well, but at least he released entire albums I love.)

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:25 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i have a feeling that the Velvet Underground might win this whole thing.

― Bee OK, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:25 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I certainly don't plan to vote for them over the Stones.

― chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:27 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wait no, they're up against prince. still, I think I might have to give prince the edge.

― chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:28 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if it came down to stones vs vu i think i would abstain just because i wouldn't really care at that point

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:29 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

beatles & prince because I'm feelin kinda hongro today

― chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:29 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Beatles, Prince

this was very easy

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:30 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This should've been Fleetwood Mac, The Cure, Abba, and Black Sabbath.

― grab you by the boo-boo and don't let go (kkvgz), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:32 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

stones really don't have a shot, do they? I mean I like them fine but are they really final four material? if steely dan or bob dylan were in west I don't think the stones would be here.

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:34 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

should've been James Brown, James Brown, James Brown, CCR

― chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:34 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I would vote for the Stones over Steely Dan or Dylan in a heartbeat

― chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:35 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Out of those three, I'd take Dylan without blinking.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:36 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Beatles, Velvets

― Grisly Addams (WmC), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:37 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually I think the 3 VU results were the 3 biggest margins so far

― iatee, Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:21 PM (9 minutes ago)

First Round: Biggest winners as measured by margin of victory
1. (tie) Beatles over Madonna
1. (tie) VU over Radiohead
3. Kate Bush over Hall & Oates

First round: biggest winners as measured by percentage of votes
1. Beatles over Madonna
2. VU over Radiohead
3. Prince over Black Sabbath

Second round: biggest winners, no matter how you measure it
1. VU over PE
2. Eno over Smiths
3. Can over Biggie

Third round: biggest winners
1. VU over Stevie
2. Beatles over Dylan
3. Stones over Can

― Dodo Lurker (Slim and Slam), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:37 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Beatles and Prince for me, thanks.

― Dodo Lurker (Slim and Slam), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:38 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Beatles, Velvet Underground

otm

BVU

if VU knocks off Prince too, my tie might get caught in the ceiling fan

"The Cross" >>> Velvet Underground

i would not disagree with that statement.

i don't like this poll

beatles, prince

Beatles, Prince

final four prediction: beatles, stones, velvets, prince

― symsymsym, Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:19 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nb i just got that from the acts that received the most votes in the first round

― symsymsym, Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:20 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark

ha

beatles, prince

otoh 2nd round eno and can got more than the stones and prince

xp

beatles, prince

I like the beatles the most of any of these four (if big had made it this far it would be a tough choice) but I don't really want them to win

if VU beats prince you are all fucking dead to me

hey you 101 people who voted for the velvets:

http://rlv.zcache.com/remember_to_vote_sticker-p217514381118634774qjcl_400.jpg

dear VU voters, as far as i am concerned you are all felons and your votes do not count at this point

again, a reminder:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/nov/20/prince-gay-marriage-opinion

"God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out," Prince told the New Yorker's Clare Hoffman. "He was, like, 'Enough.'"

I like this vision

i will not lower myself to posting the lyrics to Lou Reed's "I Wanna Be Black" because I want this to be a clean campaign for the person who obv deserves to win

'I wanna be black' is an empowering civil rights song iirc

but I can't remember clearly since I don't have the lyrics at hand

i'm boycotting this poll btw

BEATLESPRINCE

Stones, Prince

Stones, Prince, FOADIUD

At least it's not the final stage, but Beatles vs. Stones is like the more boring rock discussion topic ever.

blame ilm

I dunno man I'm pretty sure some shit about Aminal Collection wd win that award

It's not just me. This poll is getting more boring with each sucessive round. :-(

would vote velvets/prince but in the end beatles/prince

At least it's not the final stage, but Beatles vs. Stones is like the more boring rock discussion topic ever.

― bendy, Friday, July 23, 2010 8:35 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

8080

Beatles, Prince.

This poll is getting more boring with each sucessive round.

No surprise there as the outliers are eliminated and canon emerges.

No, my point is that "the canon" is so damn boring.

very interesting point

man i am sad i did not look at this on the days i could have voted for eno and can

So polling the majority results in less surprising and distinctive results than asking individuals for their personal favorites.

I don't think your point contradicts my point. xxxp

I just wonder at what point ILX tipped over into such a boring traditionalist canon. That's not a list that would be out of place in Mojo. There was a point in ILX's early history that the voted top two artists in "best of all time" lists were My Bloody Valentine and Britney Spears. I'm not saying that's a *better* canon than Beatles, Stones, Prince, Velvets, but it's certainly more interesting.

Though I suppose, looking at the artists listed in the opening rounds, they were already fairly canonically boring.

should've been James Brown, James Brown, James Brown, CCR James Brown

― chuck entertainment cheese (crüt), Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:34 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kate: this is a silly little game I made, nothing more. if you don't like the rules of the game, you can make your own game. I picked canonically boring artists on purpose because I understood that in polls of large numbers of people, things that large numbers of people agree on tend to win. I'm not sure how the mechanics of this process still seem to be confusing for so many people.

if you are surprised/bothered that a poll of this many people results in the most consensus over the beatles and the velvet underground, I dunno what to tell you. I am quite sure that 153 people didn't vote in that old school ilm poll. didn't manic street preachers place 3rd or something?

Preachers are better than the Beatles no lie

Well, congratulations on ending up on yet another discourse that boils down to discussing the artistic merit of the Beatles vs. the Rolling Stones. That's so exciting, it's NEVER been done before, so fresh and new, never seen that kind of thing done before on a messageboard.

Dude, don't be nasty.

Your sarcasm sucks.

I have never heard the music of the Velvet Underground.

i even out of some sorta obligation picked up that box set used for like almost no money and listened to all of it and wow it is just devoid of anything likeable for me. its makes me all geir listening to crunk i just get mad when i listen to it, idk.

before someone shows up and tells me that i need to listen to some bootleg that sterling morrison found hidden behind his couch when he moved and then i will get it just dont bother

jjjusten have you heard Sterling Morrison Couch Bootleg #5, that shit will turn your world around

xpost, shit

man it would almost be worth learning how to torrent just to upload a bunch of lawnmower deth as "VU RARE CELLULOID BOOT MUST HAVE #22"

that VU live at the gymnasium boot from a couple years back really is the shit tho (word to bimble)

lawnmower deth

jesus you people

late period poets carrying on the VU tradition imo xpost

the thinking persons anal cunt, if you will

Okay, that's it for me for this tournament, I have no interest in it after these results. It was fun while it lasted.

well that's a fine how do you do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx-nBxg7L_Y

lol this tournament is basically The Case Against Music Polls writ large & participated in by all the people who really dig polls

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Final round should be restricted Bungalow Bill vs Lonesome Cowboy Bill imo.

lol this tournament is basically The Case Against Music Polls writ large & participated in by all the people who really dig polls

― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:36 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

― flashing drill + penis fan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:39 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so, like, why are you guys reading (and posting on) this "music poll" thread again?

^^^just curious, y'understand

why are you posting on this board?

this is at least going to be funny when The Beatles win by over 100 votes

i voted for vu solely because of the prince partisans on this thread

I think I voted for VU in every single round. I guess I'm part of the problem, sorry guys.

Please post your address in this thread so I can plan my itinerary

99 stops on the groinpunch express

I imagine like 40 of them are in williamsburg, so that'll save you some $

fung wah bus, here I come!

just waiting for Dan and John to take away my mod powers

like I would telegraph my hand like that

I wish D@n P3rry would stop mentioning this "bus" since that other thread.

haaaaaaaaaaaaa

You voted for the Velvets over Stevie, you are no better were correct to do so.

Exactly!

You voted for the Velvets over Stevie, you are no better were incorrect to do so.

Corrected.

You voted for the Velvets over Stevie, you are no better were incorrect to do so.

corrected

voted for evie, you ar were to do so?

You voted for the Velvets over Stevie, you are no betterla.

oops:

voted for evie, you ar were i ect to do so

You voted for the Velvets over Stevie, you are no better were incorrect to do so Tuomas is a douchebag.

Fixed 4 real

haha

In Tuomas's defense:

I really hate the word "douche."

― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:19 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, only douches say douche.

― PappaWheelie V, Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:30 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

Haha, BACK ON YOU!

<<<<<douche chills>>>>>

so many lols, but ;_; for prince

wait does this mean that the beatles are 'canon' now?

Just saw this thread. I'd have given Prince his #99 vote, had I not been on my honeymoon and had other shit to do.

wait does this mean that the beatles are 'canon' now?

finally, some critical and popular validation. You earned it, Ringo!

xp
Prince would be cool with that though, I'm pretty sure.

I'm not accepting beatles as canon unless they win

voted for VU. couch bootleg 4 eva.

One canonical artist to rule them all.

need to do these again with oasis and verve in for idk kate bush and Stevie wonder or w/e