Call for papers posted:
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Cash Rules Everything Around Me: Music and Money2011 EMP Pop Conference at UCLAFeb 24 - 27, 2011Los Angeles, CaliforniaJointly sponsored by Experience Music Project and the UCLA Department of Musicology
"The best things in life are free, but you can give them to the birds and bees, I need money!" Motown founder Berry Gordy co-wrote it, Barrett Strong sang it, and John Lennon's vocal in the Beatles cover offered a fervent affirmation. By the time Wu-Tang Clan recorded "C.R.E.A.M.," however, chasing bucks in pop found kinship more with gundowns and teens behind bars. For this year's Pop Conference, the tenth annual meeting and first outside of Seattle, we invite presentations on a matter Los Angeles knows well: the relationship between song and paycheck — or, to invoke the O'Jays hit "For the Love of Money," bass line and bottom line.
Topics can cover any era or style of music and may include, but are not limited to:
* Selling out: self-objectification and compromise, but also selling out as breaking out—codebreaking and innovation * The music industry, past, present, and (?) future, from records to radio and retail; impresarios in idolatry; the current slump and pop through boom and bust, affluence and scarcity * Money, bling, "Life in the Fast Lane," etc. as a topic in song and discourse: how different genres view commercialism differently; charity and social consciousness as rival impulses * Class as operating force; profitable music and blurred hierarchy, the working class and "Don't Get Above Your Raisin'"—how class-bound assumptions affect musical valuation * Los Angeles in the pop imaginary, a place that has never pretended music is a solely artistic enterprise * "Capital (It Fails Us Now)": payola blues, the pervasive sense of the business as (to quote Hunter S. Thompson) a "long shallow money trench" and distillation of capitalism's inequities * Globalization and monetization: pop as international product, differing national and regional approaches to music merchandising * Patronage: sponsorships, institutions as support structures for pop, music in advertising * Financing musical production: the aesthetics of hi-fi—as David & David once sang, "all that money makes such a succulent sound"
The EMP Pop Conference, launched in 2002, joins academics, critics, performers, and dedicated fans in a rare common discussion. The conference is jointly sponsored in 2011 by the Department of Musicology at the UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music and by the Experience Music Project/Science Fiction Museum and Hall of Fame. This year's program committee members are: Jasen Emmons (EMP/SFM), Robert Fink (UCLA), Gaye Theresa Johnson (UCSB), writer Maura Johnston, Josh Kun (USC), Katherine Meizel (Oberlin), filmmaker Jim Mendiola, Ann Powers (Los Angeles Times), writer-musician Tim Quirk, Jeffrey Rabhan (NYU), and biographer David Ritz.
Please send proposals of 250 words, with 50 word bio, to organizer Eric Weisbard (University of Alabama) at Eric.Weisbard @ gmail.com. Deadline for proposals is Friday, October 15. Panel proposals, specifying either 90 minutes 120, should include both overview language and individual proposals/ bios, or overview and bios only for roundtable discussions. We welcome unorthodox proposals and proposals aimed explicitly at a general interest audience.
Registration for the conference is free to presenters and the public.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
Earlier this year!
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
Holding the conference in April on the same weekend as Coachella = probably not the best of ideas.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
this should bring out the artists as presenters in droves!
― Dominique, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
Subject for my pitch already settled on -- I was just waiting to see what the theme was! (And it'll fit, thankfully.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)
I think I know what I'm gonna propose, too.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)
Isn't Coachella the weekend before?
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 2 August 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)
It's varied from year to year. This year it was the same weekend in April.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 00:56 (fifteen years ago)
Nine days to proposal deadline so get 'em finished up...
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago)
I wasn't sure if I should post this in the previous conference thread or this one, but Social Text just published a revised version of my 2010 EMP paper online:
http://www.socialtextjournal.org/blog/2010/10/curtis-jackson-and-the-jeweled-skull.php
(the huge final paragraph should actually be two paragraphs! back to 2011 proposal research)
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Thursday, 7 October 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago)
I am kinda o_0 about this... I am used to calls for papers on boring super-academic stuff in my school email. Calls for papers on... pop music? Just kinda blows my mind.
― I'm a DUDE, Dad! (Viceroy), Thursday, 7 October 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago)
It's damn good fun too. Pitch something, you've got time!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 October 2010 03:35 (fourteen years ago)
Andrew W.K. and Steev Mike:The Schizophrenia of Commercial Success and Creative Integrity
i might work on that but if someone else wants to run with it go ahead.
― I'm a DUDE, Dad! (Viceroy), Thursday, 7 October 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago)
Hahahah. I say go for it.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 October 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago)
Deadline tomorrow!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago)
Worked on it tonight.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 October 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago)
Sent mine in, got my confirmation, and now to wait. I'm looking forward to it being a local thing for me this time around!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
Sent.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
Time to plan the inevitable parties.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
Actually FWIW -- a basic overview of local hotels near UCLA. No word yet in terms of any official one but I hope/presume it'll be one of the walking distance ones.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
Never been and can't wait to go.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 16 October 2010 04:00 (fourteen years ago)
I had a great topic that I never got around to sending in. :/
― ENBBQ (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 October 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago)
Me too.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago)
Paper proposal responses going out! I didn't accepted but am not surprised, it was a bit of a jury rig in my case and I'm working on the idea for something else regardless. How did others do?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
i will buy ned and maria and rufus and cyrus all these in n out burgers.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago)
Me neither, boo hoo! On the plus side, the research would've required that I leave the house, so I'm a little relieved. I may still work on it regardless, too.
― dr. phil, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago)
:-D
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago)
Still haven't heard word yet, which is odd, as several close friends got great news a few hours ago. Regardless, I'm going, and hope to see Ned, Scott, and Maria again.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 23:38 (fourteen years ago)
among others, of course
My proposal was accepted! Very excited about some of the research I have in mind (along with the upcoming hangz). And condolences to anyone who got turned down - if you're near the East Coast you should come regardless.
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 08:23 (fourteen years ago)
Um, West Coast, I mean...this is what happens when you post at 4 am. Are you still going to go and post panel roundups, Ned? They were really helpful last year.
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
Haha I was going to say, "East Coast?" Anyway, yes, definitely going as ever -- hell, it's a LOT less distance to travel for me this time!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
i've never been to california. that's kinda why i wanted to come. and the kids have never been either. should be fun.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
It'll be great -- how long are you planning on staying out for? Just the conference itself or longer? (And are the kids asking for Disneyland and/or anything similar?)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
SHHHH...they don't know what to expect. we will have to plan stuff for them and maria to do. they obviously can't stay at the EMP thing the whole time. we're gonna see if maria's mom and brother can come down from oregon and seattle too. make a weekend of it.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
my time in seattle that time was so perfectly perfect in every way that i kinda never wanted to try and duplicate it. but this way i don't have to! its a completely different place and will have a completely different vibe. i'm sort of weird that way...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
Cool. There's plenty to do that'll keep 'em busy! Will drop a separate line later.
For anyone flying in, LAX, while a rat's nest in many forms, is pretty much where to go rather than any regional airport if only because it's a fairly short freeway hop along the 405 from LAX to UCLA, especially if you need to get out on Sunday in good time to be back home/at work on Monday. If you're staying with anyone in the Valley, though, definitely consider Burbank/Bob Hope as an option. That said, I know there's a lot of road work planned on the 405 north of UCLA so that could be a bugbear...get bent/Elvis/omar/Jeff/admrl/everyone else to thread.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
I'm in.
― slow a cat sample down 800 percent (Matos W.K.), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
just try not to hit me if you see me around.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
wtfever
― slow a cat sample down 800 percent (Matos W.K.), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
Haven't been around these parts in a little while! I'm in. Looking forward to the research and the writing, but looking forward more to the seeing you all there.
― dad a, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
"wtfever"
my fave chillwave band!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
Schedule is up!
http://www.empsfm.org/education/index.asp?categoryID=26&ccID=126
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
A slightly rejigged time format, starts midafternoon on Friday and runs through 6 pm Sunday.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 January 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
This looks so, so good and I so, so can't go. For reasons having entirely to do with... money.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 8 January 2011 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
can't wait
― buzza, Saturday, 8 January 2011 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
Carl Wilson's looks predictably excellent.
― Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 8 January 2011 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
This is the first one I'm missing since the second ever conference in 2004. I'm unemployed without benefits, also see Pete's reason.
Would love to see the pieces by Tim Quirk and Tom Kipp and Andy Zax alone, but this whole thing looks great.
― Sock Puppet Pizza Delivers To The Forest (Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate), Saturday, 8 January 2011 04:14 (fourteen years ago)
i'm in this, which means i need to find some money somewhere. of course it's the first one not to be a $60 train ride from my city. still, v. excited.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 8 January 2011 04:41 (fourteen years ago)
So glad this is in my hometown now... looking forward to attending for the first time.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
BTW Scott I passed on yer kind words to Ann and she was very touched and thanks you!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 February 2011 05:13 (fourteen years ago)
i got such a kick out of my brother's friend who is 21 and who came from hudson, new york by herself and stayed in a crummy hotel in beverly hills and who i'm pretty sure talked to everyone who was there this weekend. she's awesome. i had a fun time hanging with her.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 February 2011 05:26 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dADNBoN7idQ
― hauntological-hysteric theater (get bent), Monday, 28 February 2011 05:35 (fourteen years ago)
she was afraid to use the shower. a shared shower? something like that. and she was kinda freaked out by beverly hills in general. but i think she had a good time!
― scott seward, Monday, 28 February 2011 05:46 (fourteen years ago)
the only thing that bummed me out the whole weekend was: i put the magazine that i had done with cyrus and rufus on the book table and when i went back to get coffee on the first day it was gone. so it was on the table for like an hour. i guess i should have put my name on it or "display copy only" on it or something. i really wanted to show it to the kids when the table was set up on saturday. that kinda bummed me out. we worked hard on that! i guess it wasn't music-related though...
and i didn't have another copy. i gave yetimike the other copy i had with me.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 February 2011 06:04 (fourteen years ago)
seeing a crowd of people run over to gawk at some new Banksy piece was kind of the perfectly ridiculous ending to this weekend
(it was great, will probably post more later)
― "Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Monday, 28 February 2011 10:36 (fourteen years ago)
a true meeting of the minds. ned and rufus!
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183628_10150147631770908_767115907_8100740_6467252_n.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 28 February 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
Yes! I was just looking for a way to link this photo! Thanks!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
well this was fun.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 28 February 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
Okay! Compilation/organization of my notes are up:
http://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/emp-pop-conference-2011-summary-and-full-notes-from-twitter/
Edits w/links etc. to happen later in the week, I hope.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:50 (fourteen years ago)
Does Daddino post here anymore?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 14:56 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I left quickly because I felt embarrassed after asking a question and fumbling a little bit because I realize it was years I was in a setting like that.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:02 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Oh God, at the first panel I attended, I asked a question that I intended to come out all smart and insightful but instead was rambling and vacant. Then I did it again at the next panel. Never even raised my hand for the rest of the weekend.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
it can be hard to be on the spot like that! all of a sudden 50+ people are staring at you and the room gets magically hotter.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
Totes. Good to meet you, too, Scott, btw!
― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
Then there's me and my egomania. Or something.
Sole-sides.com has their overview up:
http://soul-sides.com/2011/02/emp-2011-in-review/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
And here's Tavia N.'s take:
http://hearisqueer.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/emp-2011-wrap-up-where-were-the-queers/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 02:02 (fourteen years ago)
Here's xgau's summary.
http://www.najp.org/articles/2011/03/emp-report.html#more
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 12:54 (fourteen years ago)
moby to majors: drop dead
http://www.billboard.com/news/moby-major-labels-should-just-die-1005053902.story#/news/moby-major-labels-should-just-die-1005053902.story
― scott seward, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
Meantime, the audience some minutes before the keynote. Spot a critic!
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188330_571649797876_81500275_32628026_5682171_n.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 05:13 (fourteen years ago)
Meantime, the audience some minutes before the keynote.
i'm somewhere toward the back!
― hauntological-hysteric theater (get bent), Thursday, 3 March 2011 06:46 (fourteen years ago)
And here's Andrew Beaujon's film that was his presentation:
http://vimeo.com/20573079
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
xp I'm loitering in the lobby!
― jaymc, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
the keynote with moby, etc is up on youtube.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
Photos!
http://www.scott-photo.com/Events/2011-EMP-Pop-Music-Conference/15994340_ZZY79#1199797595_uMRuG
Plus, Stefan Shepherd's take:
http://www.zooglobble.com/archives/2011/03/emp_pop_conference_2011_a_brief_rev.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
Hahah okay NICE:
http://www.scott-photo.com/Events/2011-EMP-Pop-Music-Conference/15994340_ZZY79#1204434115_FYkk3-M-LB
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
And I like my appearance in this one:
http://www.scott-photo.com/Events/2011-EMP-Pop-Music-Conference/15994340_ZZY79#1204438373_Dv7od
In that it is a very representative shot of me at the conference -- sitting near the wall and a power outlet, madly taking notes.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
Oh hey:http://www.scott-photo.com/Events/2011-EMP-Pop-Music-Conference/15994340_ZZY79#1204433941_2Pkji-A-LB
(L-R): Mike Powell, me, Chris Molanphy, Matos
― jaymc, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I should explain that photo I really liked -- it's Scott Seward (and a friend of his brother's), my friend Mike Scholz and myself listening to Mike McGonigal at that same reception.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
shannekia! i think that's how you spell it. i'll have to get word to her that there is a picture on the internet of her and simon. she is a 21 year old simon fangirl.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I saw that photo too and thought it was damn cool!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
my panel:
http://www.scott-photo.com/Events/2011-EMP-Pop-Music-Conference/15994340_ZZY79#1204450251_SSTjE-XL-LB
― "Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Thursday, 3 March 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
scott you totally spelled it right! it's was really great meeting all of you guys! did i really talk to all the writers? ned are short interaction was lovely and you will always be "nice ned" in my mind. I went to AMOEBA and almost pee'ed myself (they didnt have a bathroom).
― lessauvage, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
Hi there! Much thanks for the compliments, too kind. And yeah, Amoeba's lack of bathroom = argh. (But there's a couple of nearby spots either direction on Sunset.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
I am about to disgust all of you.
So, Flavorwire has their take on the conference up.
And it includes...THE ROD STEWART PHOTO.
Those of us at Tom Kipp's presentation know.
And now...you do:
http://flavorwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/rod-stewart.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 March 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.scott-photo.com/Events/2011-EMP-Pop-Music-Conference/15994340_ZZY79#1204432508_Lpu8b-A-LB
i am in the middle background of this, holding a glass of wine, in the red shirt with the giant yellow "THERE'S PARAMORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM" letters (unreadable here). i don't know what i'm doing but it appears to be in the neighborhood of a harangue.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 March 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
Looks like you're telling off Ian Mathers, you horrible man. (I could be wrong.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 March 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
"I said cheddar, not Stilton!"
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 March 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
And another review:
http://superbon.net/?p=1761
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 March 2011 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, that's ian. alfred probably has the right of it.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:28 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone know what the timeframe is before the panels show up on iTunes?
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:34 (fourteen years ago)
only ned would know the answer to that and i don't think he knows the answer to that.
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:55 (fourteen years ago)
And indeed, I don't.
Tim Quirk's presentation now posted.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 March 2011 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
Really liked his presentation, and the conversation with Ben Lee from the same panel.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 14 March 2011 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
forgot to come back to this thread to self-advertise! here's the written version of mine: http://nickyswhat.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/what-a-convenient-world-russian-music-in-the-era-of-big-money/
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 14 March 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
posted my paper on my blog. if you are curious(yellow):
http://skotrok.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-2011-emp-pop-conference-paper.html
― scott seward, Thursday, 17 March 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)
was in the audience for that. laughed hard.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 March 2011 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
Turns out a slew of the presentations have gone live on iTunes *much* more quickly than I was anticipating:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u/2011-emp-pop-conference-at/id431416241
(No Kiss panel, though? So sad.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)
Finally got around to posting a print version of my 2011 paper:
http://backtotheworld.net/2011/06/02/enjoined-joy-gross-national-happiness-and-pop-music-in-bhutan/
― "Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Thursday, 2 June 2011 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
100.
No.
― Michael Daddino, Sunday, 5 August 2012 16:03 (thirteen years ago)
the fact that you're counting down each of your new posts makes me worry that something like the premise of that Eddie Murphy movie A Thousand Words is happening here
― contender's game (some dude), Sunday, 5 August 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)