120 Minutes/Alternative Nation alterna-crossover hip-hop from the '90s

1. Lucas - Lucas With The Lid Off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY5zaDZq0sc

No idea why actual heads never fucked with "Lucas With The Lid Off." This song is dope as hell. I used to get up early every morning in hopes of catching the video when it was in heavy rotation.

2. MC 900 Ft. Jesus - "If I Only Had A Brain"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA-AvBjBm5k

3. Me Phi Me - "Sad New Day"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLnmHa_k3Y0

Obviously also
4. Beastie Boys like pretty much everything from Check Your Head, Ill Communication and Hello Nasty

5. Cypress Hill - "Insane In The Brain"

6. Arrested Development - All three singles off the debut

7. Spearhead - "Hole In The Bucket"

I dug this jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CszG_bR35Mw

8. Morcheeba - Trigger Hippie

was Dr. Octagon on 120 min? I remember he was on Amp a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAJZmlRMdc&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyFrn1ZlnaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5PNYNQqnvk

Too Much Joy - That's A Lie

Gonna give half-credit because this is fucking dope as shit classic for all time

http://www.toomuchjoy.com/index.php/2010/06/song-of-the-week-thats-a-lie/

that Limbomaniacs video looks like a Mr. Show sketch. Can't believe one of those dudes is in Guns N Roses. Can't believe I owned that album. lol @ Primus and Buckethead cameos in there too!

Public Enemy's Shut Em Down got played on 120 in 1992, which makes sense cuz it kind of sounds like Front 242/Meat Beat Manifesto or whatev. Hands down the best song on that album and i NEVER understood why heads rep for the Pete Rock remix when this is far superior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB4D-GbQ9A4

How could I forget Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy!

Always loved the track on this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgOWTM5R2DA

Let's see if I can remember all the videos from Judgement Night! Only three right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ysi7yB1fg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfFD709OtFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfTg4Fcza58

No shit: Before I knew Mike Patton was capable of such ruckus I thought that some of the screaming in the last one was samples of that lady freaking out at Jeffrey Dahmer in the courtroom all I HATE YOU JEFFREY AAAAGGGHHH and it was extra freaky to me hahaha

Oh shit I didn't even know there was a video for this, but it apparantly got some 120 Minutes play

Basehead - "Not Over You"

classic for all of time, fuck you if you can';t get with this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7bELSqWy0

man most of this stuff is so horrible to me

and from the other side of the decade, some rare 120 Minutes 1998-1999 from

Styles of Beyond!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zphVBA1Iqao

Zach De La Rocha, KRS and Last Emperor!
[[this song is wack, but Last Emperor kind of brings it]]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhqfijdOIuE

lol they played Eminem's "My Name Is" in 1999. WHERE TO PUT THIS GUY?!?!?!

man most of this stuff is so horrible to me

― blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, August 8, 2010 1:15 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

weren't you @ soccer practice or some shit in 1993, gtfo

if you can't fuck w/ Faith No More & Boo-Yaa Tribe, i don't know what to say

I remember hearing "Intergalactic" on actual rap radio w/ jigga/dmx/lauryn/whatever else they were playing that year, not that that precludes it from this thread. seems like something of a fluke tho.

The Spawn soundtrack was like the read headed step child to the Judgment Night soundtrack.

1. "(Can't You) Trip Like I Do" - Filter & The Crystal Method – 4:28
2. "Long Hard Road out of Hell" - Marilyn Manson & Sneaker Pimps – 4:21
3. "Satan" - Orbital & Kirk Hammett – 3:45
4. "Kick the P.A." - Korn & The Dust Brothers – 3:21
5. "Tiny Rubberband" - Butthole Surfers & Moby – 4:12
6. "For Whom the Bell Tolls (The Irony of it All)" - Metallica & DJ Spooky – 4:39
7. "Torn Apart" - Stabbing Westward & Wink – 4:53
8. "Skin Up Pin Up" - Mansun & 808 State – 5:27
9. "One Man Army" - Prodigy & Tom Morello – 4:14
10. "Spawn" - Silverchair & Vitro – 4:28
11. "T-4 Strain" - Henry Rollins & Goldie – 5:19
12. "Familiar" - Incubus & DJ Greyboy – 3:22
13. "No Remorse (I Wanna Die)" - Slayer & Atari Teenage Riot – 4:16
14. "A Plane Scraped Its Belly On A Sooty Yellow Moon" - Soul Coughing & Roni Size – 5:26

When people go out on a limb for "worst song of all time" they forget shit like this.

fwiw this was the "good" Basehead song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgbnWJUX_4M

lovelovelove hiphoprisy/spearhead to this day. and you know, arrested development's second album is actually pretty wonderful. and the FNM/boo ya track was so easily the best off Judgement Night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FSOAFwkpqI&feature=related

consolidated are always good for a laugh.

was debating posting Consolidated

Also, House Of Pain (Butch Vig Remix) is classsssickkkkkk

I def saw the video, but its not on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9LSbEv_G_g

i kicks the flavor... like Stephen King writes horror

was this "alt?" seemed "alt" to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHkj804LCl0

nah, was pop-rap classic

i guess from a critical perspective it was alt/emo like "What's Up Fatlip" or whatev, but that was def on the whole "Baby Got Back"/"Bust A Move"/"Funk Dat" tip of pop-rap songs that everyone liked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E5JNYoDT48

Chuck D's guest appearance in "Kool Thing" by Sonic Youth is definitely one, even if the lyrics reference LL Cool J.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKJKhNYAzI

kind of a tangent but is the "feels so good" sample in lucas with the lid off the same as in minimal man - treatment feel??

dug that and a few more of these as a 12 year old sporadic mtv watcher (we didn't have cable)

I mean, is Stereo MCs or EMF the equivalent today's Gym Class Heroes or Flobots whatev megahit non-rap rap? Because that shit sucks my balls all day long and "Connected" and "Unbelievable" rule to this very day

thanks, keythhtyek, for getting my thread :)

how are young black teenagers anything but rap

deej missing the point again

YBT were totally marketed to that alterna audience at the time. They opened that whole tour with Public Enemy, Anthrax and Primus

Let us not forget A Lighter Shade Of Brown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh5_kwvQGd4

YBT were totally marketed to that alterna audience at the time. They opened that whole tour with Public Enemy, Anthrax and Primus

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, August 8, 2010 2:46 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

werent u the one questioning including eminem itt?

i wasn't questioning. the all-caps "WHERE TO PUT THIS GUY???" is me imitating an MTV programmer in 1999

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twfCbHN06eE

Kottonmouth Kings were more frat/bro/mook post-Bizkit scene, no?

I think so, too, but that was in fact played on 120min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDkDvdogCXk

Oh yeah, now I remember that Kottonmouth Kings song! Was really depressed that I heard that song before I heard the Crass song it references.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLE4fyHwCPc

i ran out and bought this album after seeing this video on 120 Minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHDYfoRYcqQ

Does Bloodhound Gang's "Fire Water Burn" not fit into this thing?

I was avoiding posting it, but since we opened the Kottonmouth Kings door, why not? Everlast too.

haha i posted on the wrong thread....'not over you' is fucking legendary btw..marcello carlin had a superb write up about that album

anyone know if the second Basehead album is any good?

dude ive been looking for the first one so bad since i heard it was compared to ar kane. then again so were dalek...

i love the bit where it just stops and then it tunes into the radio. thats something thats not gonna happen correct me if im wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_5nCgAXIYU

i'm pretty sure i saw this on 120 Minutes back in the. Cypress Hill connection, of course. dope song.

I'm out walking and reading ilx with my phone, someone finest some dude's screen name for me

if you can't fuck w/ Faith No More & Boo-Yaa Tribe, i don't know what to say

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, August 8, 2010 1:36 AM (20 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the unshakable logic that brought us the judgement night soundtrack

what was that group that had a branded bus that featured heavily in their marketing, they should be here

I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive I saw this on one of the last MTV Midnight-2AM episodes (first half of 2000).. Can't find the video on youtube however.. I know "90s" was specified but those 12 or so episodes that aired in 2000 should count for this, and plus the album was released in '99 anyway, so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7AXFkO2vU

And if trip-hop counts, there's always like Tricky & Portishead...

i ran out and bought this album after seeing this video on 120 Minutes

hahaha, me too exactly (re: Fun Lovin' Criminals)

If you're gonna make fun of the judgement night soundtrack you can leave this thread and never come back

Sadly towards the end they were also playing "Rock Superstar" :(

Oh man, forgot about this 97 120 Minutes jam:

Lordz Of Brooklyn ripping a fucking MEAT PUPPETS song for their chorus. Pomo days!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NHU0X3CzoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGXVyDsOV2w&feature=av2e

I'm kinda wishing I didn't remember Sprung Monkey or Citizen King..

The first time I heard Sugar Ray feat. Super Cat was on 120 Minutes.

man, i would 100% fuck with that Kottonmouth Kings beat if a good rapper did something with it. They could even keep the Crass rip.

ahahaha, the one dude at the end of the video screaming a Jesse Jackson line O_o

in other 120 Minutes news, it was someone's job to make sure Howlin Maggie has a VEVO page

Hip-hop godfather:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdvM0IB5Sbs

always regretted not buying that CD single

this is even better know that i'm old and know about Lenny Kaye and Phillip Glass

This was your girlfriend's version of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22HL5ZOOHGI

speaking of the 90's, you know who i would listen to if i had their albums? the goats. but i don't have them anymore. i should look for them. or just listen on youtube. this thread just reminded me of them for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzFAVIkIIGk&feature=related

was trying to find 'stoned' off their friendly facism lp on youtube, but no one has made a clip yet - maybe i should? but for now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_z2sxKs54I
consolidated were pretty wonderful imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trbvx1U6Ry8&feature=related

Warfield was a weak MC but the production on this is immense and his shameless hipster canon namedropping works for me here.

his one inch punch played an amazing show at the garage in 95 or so, but the record was pretty drab.

Re: Consolidated, I went to see them in 92 when I was very heatedly political and in advance took their side re: the title of Play More Music, like, ha, only an apathetic knucklehead would want to cut short debate to hear more MUSIC. Then halfway through the show, during yet another solemn, dragging discussion, I did a U-turn and agreed wholeheartedly with the "play more music" dude.

saw them in 94 i think, during a tube strike, and also regretted the constant breakdowns for political discussion because last train back to ours was 11:30pm and they didn't take the stage till 11pm. ended up night busing it home. a lot of their ideas re: stagecraft and relationship between arist and consumer and use of the stage as political forum were commendable, but many just didn't work. saw them again in 97, interviewed them for my zine, but it was just Adam Sherborne left in the group, and he was backed by a young SF acid-funk group, and they sounded like awful sub-hendrix. adam seemed disastrously depressed during the interview,and the crowd at the LA2 streamed away as the show wore on.

still, that 94 show was pretty ace, when they played. better still were the support acts, Pitchshifter (who were still more industrial than metal, and performed in front of vivisection footage, and were TERRIFYING) and Fun Da Mental (first album line-up, also sublime). i'm still glad i was listening to consolidated's albums at that age, and have been wanting for years to write about that SF industrial/Hip-Hop enclave, and compare the career trajectories of Franti vs Sherborne.

I still love this unreservedly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c09EeU2V0jE

man, i would have LOVED that in 1996

new kingdom were SUBLIME

they were the ones w/the bus

If you're gonna make fun of the judgement night soundtrack you can leave this thread and never come back

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, August 8, 2010 11:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its not really ~good~ for anything else tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U53wliPFhkI

the remixed instrumental version of this on the 12 inch is one of my favorite hip hop-inspired things ever made. can't even tell you how many times i've played it. not on youtube sadly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9yO-epdw1Q

did Alternative Nation/120 ever play PM Dawn or where they strictly a pop phenom?

anyway, this is my favorite PM Dawn song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Df9nKO_6_U

oh duh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co3qMdkucM0

Also Fu-Schnickens were on Lollapalooza 1994 second stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XF_aZvcb-c

They were great. I remember seeing them on Yo! proper a whole bunch and have no idea why they're not regarded as a great rap group to this day.

Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy!

--and the Beatnigs version before that.

Had no idea 120 minutes even continued into the '90s--pretty sure "Lucas With the Lid Off" got regular MTV play, but maybe I'm blurring with The Box. The whole idea of alternative-hip-hop crossover by this point seemed pretty redundant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQR9bw-4R08

i'm gonna post the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion GZA/Killah Priest remix, which I've always loved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjqCzonxNxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa5SiU2U5_k&feature=related

i'm gonna post the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion GZA/Killah Priest remix, which I've always loved

On the money; that whole Experimental Remixes EP is great.

To the pot I'd submit the Jungle Brothers/Aphrodite "True Blue" remix, which sums up the Amp-era about as well as anything else.

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man most of this stuff is so horrible to me

^^^cosign

except for Basehead, which is, was, and always will be totally amazing

there was like an 18 month period where Consolidated was fantastic

then I turned 20

anyone know if the second Basehead album is any good?

Not in Kansas is totally good. it's everything after that's uh waht

Stakka Bo is fucking horrible.

Is that the Mid-City Rock and Bowl in the New Orleans Les Nubians video? You can turn off the sound and imagine good music. Still adore the "Drop" video.

i will rep for new kingdom & of course pharcyde

Holy shit the Disposable Heroes. I totally forgot them, though I loved it for a while; about the same time I started hating KRS-one for turning into a hypocrite sack of shit.