ILX HEAVY ROCK/METAL ALBUM POLL STATS BINGE & POST-MORTEM

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glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 August 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

and i hand you over to my other glamorous assistant Glenn..

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

where are Henry and his dumb master?

ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

someone ... someone said there'd be cake over here?

total satan attitude (kkvgz), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

Godflesh – Streetcleaner
Corrupted - El Mundo Frio
Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
Swans – Cop
Godflesh – Pure
Napalm Death - From Enslavement To Obliteration
Black Sabbath – s/t
Swans - Children of God
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Corrupted - Llenandose De Gusanos
Envy - All the Footprints You've Ever Left and the Fear Expecting Ahead
The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand
Napalm Death – Scum
The Obsessed - The Obsessed
Bolt Thrower - Realm of Chaos
Black Sabbath – Paranoid
The Stooges - Funhouse
Electric Wizard - Witchcult Today
Black Sabbath - Vol IV
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Neurosis - Through Silver In Blood
Electric Wizard - Come My Fanatics
Motörhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith
Tad - God's Balls
Corrupted - Se Hace Por Los Suenos Asesinos
Fudge - Tunnel - Hate Songs In E-Minor
Motörhead - Ace of Spades
Electric Wizard – Dopethrone
Isis – Celestial
Sleep – Dopesmoker
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Earth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull
Wolves In The Throne Room - Diadem Of 12 Stars
Neurosis - Given To The Rising
Grief – Dismal
Motörhead – Bomber
Torche – Meanderthal
Blut Aus Nord - memoria vetusta II: dialogue with the stars
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Sleep - Holy Mountain
Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous
Celtic Frost - Into the Pandemonium
Discharge - Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing
Khanate – Things Viral
The Young Gods - L'eau Rouge
Slayer - South of Heaven
Iron Maiden - Live After Death
Bolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No Law
Carcass - Reek of Putrefaction
Katatonia - Discouraged Ones

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

Is lack of Bolt Thrower maybe the most surprising thing in the poll?

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

Mock away:

Orphaned Land - Mabool
Black Sabbath - s/t
System of a Down - Toxicity
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
Distorted - Voices from Within
Disturbed - The Sickness
Kyuss - Blues for the Red Sun
Amaseffer - Slaves for Life
Mastodon - Leviathan
Dio - Holy Diver
Eluveitie - Evocation I
Strapping Young Lad - SYL
Entombed - Wolverine Blues
Anthrax - Among the Living
Jamie Saft - Black Shabbis
Guns n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Manowar - Fighting the World
Alice in Chains - Dirt
Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic
AC/DC - Highway to Hell
Skyclad - A Burnt Offering for the Bone Idol
Van Halen - 1984
Tool - Lateralus
The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium
The Stooges - Funhouse
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Baroness - Blue Record
Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet
At the Drive-In - Relationship Of Command
Mastodon - Crack the Skye
Burzum - Filosofem
Kiss - Destroyer
Nirvana - Nevermind
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Orphaned Land - The Never Ending Way of ORWarriOR
Pearl Jam - Ten
Converge - Jane Doe
Dark Tranquility - The Gallery
Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
Moonsorrow - Verisakeet
Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Rage Against the Machine - Evil Empire
Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

when I submitted this, I'd forgotten that I hate Axl Rose

Tool - Undertow
Rush - 2112
Mr. Bungle - s/t
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Tool - Aenima
A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step
Rush - A Farewell To Kings
Ministry - Land Of Rape & Honey
Led Zeppelin - IV
Janes Addiction - Ritual De Lo Habitual
Tool - Lateralus
Rush - Moving pictures
Nine Inch Nails - Broken
Living Colour - Vivid
Marilyn Manson - Mechanical Animals
Janes Addiction - Nothings Shocking
Fishbone - Truth And Soul
Smashing Pumpkins - Gish
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Primus - Frizzle Fry
Anthrax - Among The Living
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Aerosmith - Toys In The Attic
Nirvana - Nevermind
Bad Brains - I Against I
A Perfect Circle - mer de noms
Emperor - Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk
Therion - Teli
Faith No More - The Real Thing
Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Rush - Hemispheres
Led Zeppelin - II
Primus - Sailing The Seas Of Cheese
Anthrax - Spreading The Disease
AC/DC - Back In Black
Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
Def Leppard - Hysteria
White Zombie - Astrocreep 2000
Pearl Jam - Ten
Pearl Jam - Vitalogy
The Cult - Electric
Faith No More - Angel Dust
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Ministry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste
Front Line Assembly - Millenium
Kiss - Destroyer
Rush - Permanent Waves

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

Here's my ballot - stuff that didn't place in bold:

1. Black Sabbath - s/t
2. Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
3. AC/DC - High Voltage
4. Led Zeppelin - III
5. Hawkwind - Space Ritual
6. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978)
7. Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous
8. Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
9. Motörhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith
10. Scorpions - In Trance
11. Iron Maiden - Live After Death

12. Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
13. Judas Priest - Sin After Sin
14. Slade - Slayed?
15. Def Leppard - High 'N' Dry
16. Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love

17. Aerosmith - Rocks
18. Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction
19. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
20. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak
21. Alcest - Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde
22. Yob - The Great Cessation
23. Celtic Frost - Monotheist
24. Flower Travellin' Band - Satori
25. Iron Maiden - Killers
26. Cinderella - Long Cold Winter
27. Agalloch - Ashes Against The Grain
28. Earth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull
29. Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
30. Ratt - Ratt EP
31. Nazareth - Loud 'N' Proud

32. Ufomammut - Snailking
33. Scorpions - Taken By Force
34. Rush - 2112
35. Cathedral - The Guessing Game
36. Faith No More - Angel Dust
37. Van Halen - Women and Children First
38. The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand
39. Spirit Caravan – Jug Fulla Sun
40. Opeth - Ghost Reveries
41. Primordial - To the Nameless Dead
42. Witchcraft - Witchcraft

43. Ulver - Shadows Of The Sun
44. Deep Purple - Fireball
45. Riot - Fire Down Under

46. Danzig - Danzig I
47. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
48. Electric Wizard - Witchcult Today
49. Metallica - Master of Puppets
50. Sleep - Dopesmoker

EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

marvel at the falseness

Van Halen - Van Halen (1978)
Def Leppard - Hysteria
Aerosmith - Rocks
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss
Danzig - Danzig I
Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buyin?
AC/DC - Highway to Hell
The Cult - Electric
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

Faith No More - Angel Dust
Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Quiet Riot - mental health
Andrew WK - I Get Wet
Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Rush - Permanent Waves
ZZ Top - Eliminator
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Rush - Moving pictures

Helmet - Meantime
Led Zeppelin - Houses of The Holy
Van Halen - 1984
Anthrax - Among The Living
Janes Addiction - Nothings Shocking
Van Halen - Fair Warning
Judas Priest - British Steel
S.O.D. - Speak English or Die
Ministry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste
Voivod - Nothingface

Cinderella - Night Songs
Ratt - Out of the Cellar
Tesla - Mechanical Resonance
Voivod - Angel Rat
Deftones - Around The Fur
Melvins - Houdini
Prong - Cleansing
Led Zeppelin - IV
Dokken - Under Lock and Key
Metallica - Master of Puppets

Motörhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
Ozzy Osbourne – Diary of a Madman
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
The Accused - Martha Splatterhead's Maddest Stories Ever Told

Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
Blue Oyster Cult - Tyranny And Mutation
Black Sabbath - Vol IV
Montrose - Montrose
AC/DC - Powerage
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die
Rush - 2112
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Blue Oyster Cult - Secret Treaties
Funkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Alice Cooper - Love It to Death
Deep Purple - Made in Japan
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
ZZ Top - Tres Hombres
UFO - Strangers in the Night
Slayer - South of Heaven
Deep Purple - In Rock
Motörhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith
Alice Cooper - Killer
Black Sabbath - Mob Rules
Budgie - In For The Kill
Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Black Sabbath - Born Again
Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond
Boston - Boston
BlackSabbath - Sabotage
Blue Oyster Cult - Agents of Fortune
High on Fire - Blessed Black Wings
Trouble - Trouble
Black Sabbath - s/t
Rainbow - Rising

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

The Stooges - Funhouse
Led Zeppelin - IV
Aerosmith - Rocks
Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power
Motörhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith
AC/DC - Powerage
Black Sabbath - Sabotage
Led Zeppelin - Houses of The Holy
Aerosmith - Toys In The Attic
Motörhead - Orgasmatron
AC/DC - Let There Be Rock
Led Zeppelin - III
Kid Rock - Devil Without a Cause
Ministry - Psalm 69
Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
Motörhead - Overkill
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Led Zeppelin - II
Van Halen - Women and Children First
AC/DC - For Those About to Rock
Burzum - Filosofem
Led Zeppelin - In Through The Out Door
MC5 - Kick Out The Jams
Motörhead - Iron Fist
Boston - Boston
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
Monster Magnet - Powertrip
Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses
Motörhead - Ace of Spades
AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
Kiss - Alive!
Deep Purple - In Rock
Metallica - Metallica (The Black Album)
King Crimson - Red
Van Halen - 1984
Led Zeppelin - Presence
Black Sabbath - s/t
Deep Purple - Machine Head
Kiss - Kiss
Queen - News of the World
Ted Nugent - Double Live Gonzo!
Blue Cheer - Vincebus Eruptum
Rainbow - Rising
Judas Priest - Sin After Sin
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Black Sabbath - Born Again
Iron Maiden - Killers

ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Blue Oyster Cult - Secret Treaties
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Rush - Hemispheres
Black Sabbath - Vol IV
Rainbow - Rising
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Queen - II
Rush - Permanent Waves
Voivod - Angel Rat
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Rush - Moving Pictures
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Blue Oyster Cult - Tyranny And Mutation
Angel Witch - s/t
Venom – Welcome To Hell
Rush - A Farewell To Kings
Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack
Alice Cooper - Killer
Boston - Boston
UFO - Strangers in the Night
Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak
Voivod – Nothingface
Blue Oyster Cult - Blue Oyster Cult
Montrose - Montrose
Swans - Children of God
Rush - 2112
Thin Lizzy - Johnny the Fox
Venom - Black Metal
High Tide - Sea Shanties
AC/DC - Let There Be Rock
Thin Lizzy - Bad Reputation
Alice Cooper - Love It to Death
Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond
Zeni Geva – Total Castration
Blue Cheer - Vincebus Eruptum
Hawkwind - Warrior On The Edge Of Time
Diamond Head - Lightning To The Nations
Van Halen - Van Halen (1978)
Black Widow - Sacrifice
Motorhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith
Judas Priest - Sin After Sin
Armageddon - Armageddon
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die
The Young Gods - L'eau Rouge
Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
Melvins - Ozma
Budgie - Budgie
Manowar - Sign of the Hammer
Uriah Heep - Salisbury

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Led Zeppelin - IV
Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Janes Addiction - Ritual De Lo Habitual
Led Zeppelin - III
Manic Street Preachers - Gold Against The Soul
Nirvana - Nevermind
Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
Nirvana - In Utero
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
Pearl Jam - Yield

Led Zeppelin - Houses of The Holy
At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command
Led Zeppelin - In Through The Out Door
Led Zeppelin - Presence
Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Manic Street Preachers - Generation Terrorists
Faith No More - Angel Dust
Guns 'N Roses - Lies

Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
AC/DC - Back In Black
Pearl Jam - Vs
Metallica - Metallica (The Black Album)

MC5 - Kick Out The Jams
Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power
Def Leppard - Hysteria
Marilyn Manson - Mechanical Animals
Evanescence - Fallen

Led Zeppelin - II

Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar
Smashing Pumpkins - Gish

The ones that missed out are in bold. I stalled at 32.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

Matt #2 with a killer ballot.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure why I rated Never Say Die ahead of the debut and Sabotage, in retrospect.

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

you guys were supposed to wait on the ballots until glenn posted the stats

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

I have Never Say Die at #6 ahead of both as well, and dont regret it for a second.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

you guys were supposed to wait on the ballots until glenn posted the stats

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, August 13, 2010 4:26 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

all these fucking rules. it's supposed to be metal, man.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

Top 300 rules recap please

Chaim Poutine (NickB), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

We have to vote on the rules in a separate poll.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Let's vote on the rules. Either Emperor or Boris will win.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Wallow in the numbers:

https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Nirvana - In Utero
Converge - Jane Doe
Melvins - Lysol
Sunn O))) - Monoliths And Dimensions
Converge - You Fail Me
Boris - At Last - Feedbacker
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Pearl Jam - Vitalogy
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
Melvins - Houdini
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Sunn O))) - Black One
Deftones - Around The Fur
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Primus - Sailing The Seas Of Cheese
Boris - Pink
Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
Pearl Jam - Vs
Boris - Heavy Rocks
Guns N' Roses - Use Your Illusion 2
Melvins - Bullhead
Earth - Earth 2
Kyuss - Welcome To Sky Valley
Nirvana - Nevermind
Funkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On
Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
Sunn O))) - Flight of the Behemoth
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
Electric Wizard - Come My Fanatics
Sleep - Holy Mountain
Kyuss - Blues For The Red Sun
Electric Wizard - Witchcult Today
Guns N' Roses - Use Your Illusion 1
At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command
Converge - Axe To fall
Rage Against the Machine - Evil Empire
Sleep - Dopesmoker
Deftones - White Pony

gman59, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

holy shit, as usual the stats are incredibly detailed and i really can't imagine how much time you must have spent working on them

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Mordy+Metal lolololololol

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

Ha, I'm #15 false metal voter even though that includes ZENI GEVA you morons

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)

Also (black metal) love to the 3 people here for voted for Black Shabbis with me: https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&thread=%405961.%5BPoints+·+Votes%5D%3A%231%3A%231%3A%231%3A%231.key+Votes%3A%231.nodes

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

Woah, since when is Dark Tranquility false metal?

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

We need Joey DeMaio here to tell us, if he's finished buying broccoli for his mum anyway

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

I have a false metal contention to be dealt with!

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

Tracks full list
Albums Full list
Artist winners

Voter Centricity

Voter Similarity

My Link Title

Album Kvltosis

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

If its not on Metal Archives = False Metal

Ranking of FALSE METAL VOTERS

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

and yes we spent weeks on the stats, i had ideas glenn fulfilled them Everyone thank Glenn for everything!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

Um hello?

www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=8

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

omg these stats are the funniest thing in the world

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

Mordy, it's fixed now

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

I can't believe I wasn't the falsest of false! I demand a recount.

emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

lol, 85th out of 90 on centricity

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

(By the way, this is AWESOME)

emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

How is individual voter falsity calculated? It doesn't look like it's just based on quantity -- did you guys somehow distinguish between varying levels of falseness?

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

i am the no. 10 metal infidel of ilx. hurrah!

ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

lol #5 on the falseness chart

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

Checked metal archives, if it wasn't on there it was false. Took me a whole day to check Metal Archives and then add the tags. and glenn tabulated it in 10 seconds by just tabulating only stuff with the false tag

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

also the ballots closest to mine were some dude and... Johnny Fever!

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

cripes sake, mordy - take your falseness like a man, will ya?

xps

ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

I am the highest voter for the genre 'WTF'. Hurrah!

emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

I will protest my falseness with my last breath!

Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

lol John and I representing for Frizzle Fry

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

kvltosis top 10 is fantastic:

Led Zeppelin · Presence
Rush · Permanent Waves
Boston · Boston
Rush · Moving Pictures
Motörhead · Overkill
Blue Öyster Cult · Agents of Fortune
Tool · Aenima
The Cult · Electric
Rush · 2112
Led Zeppelin · Houses of the Holy

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

I consider Mastodon, Opeth, High On Fire, Enslaved, Gojira, Nachtmystium and others to be that high caliber.

ok, need to clarify one point:

i meant today's bands are not up to past groups re commercial viability, rather than the aesthetic worth.

and now i'm off to dinner...

xp

ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

Johnny did you get my reply to your email?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, just now saw it.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

At the moment I'm listening to Saint Vitus - Born Too Late. I would never have guessed second rate 80s revivalist doom would nearly beat Paranoid. That's just crazy. I like The Obsessed, Pentagram and Trouble well enough -- saw the latter two live in the past year. I remember hearing the Saint Vitus debut way back when since I heard everything that came out on SST. I could appreciate what they were trying to do, but the recording was shit. Maybe because they had even less a recording budget than Sabbath did 15 years previously, or maybe because Spot just couldn't get a proper thick low end to save his life. Born Too Late is definitely an improvement over their debut and would benefit from a remaster. But top ten?

Apparently it got in the Decibel hall of fame, it's a very influential album, beloved of lots of people.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

I'm glad it got in.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

All in all I think its a great list of 300 massive records. If 10 or 15 of seem way out of line you should have vetoed them during the process.

I thought all subgenres were well represented and it was pretty even. Apparently doom and black metal is very popular on ILM, and if you let people vote for Jane's Addiction and MSP and Soungarden then they are going to because thats just what some think is really hard music... suck it up, this wasn't a strictly metal poll.

Anyway, I'm really glad that YOB and Agalloch placed. Like every YOB album made it! Thats an amazing result! Don't just look at the stuff you think was bad and messed up, look at the all the amazing stuff that made it in the list.

Where something places is always going to be bollocks, just think of it as an awesome list of 300 great albums that 60 or so weird internet people thought were the best heavy/hard rock and metal albums. I see very little evidence of any tactical voting or conspiracy to get certain things placed higher.

Thats just my two cents. I'm not really following the thread, I've kind of just been in bed drinking juice and keeping my crackers down.

Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Just imagine if Boris - Pink had placed top 10 like some expected, lol.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

But we should do a heaviest band of all time bracket poll to settle the matter once and for all on this topic of "heaviness"

Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

Tad?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

or a boris,mastodon,torche,isis,pelican had taken up the top 5. That village voice guy would be hunting us all down!

xps

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

heaviest or extreme? I don't think you could decide who was the heaviest.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i think "God" would be on my shortlist for heaviest, but I'm never even sure they're metal.

gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

noone could ever agree on it

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

or like painkiller maybe? the grind jazz stuff seems to have a weight thats hard to ignore

gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

Electric Wizard is the heaviest.

Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

pure noise would be out but ambient drone would be in.

Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

Im not sure ilm is ready for more bracket polls. or metal ones. skot & smithy might get mad

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

and whiney!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

we don't have to do it right away. just tuck the idea away for later.

Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

Coming to this really fucking late. Having guilt about the albums I should have nominated/voted for, even if it wouldn't have made a difference in the long run. The sheer breadth of the poll must have been a vote-splitter for most of us - I know it was for me. It's an entirely personal thing, but I've got separate classifications for heavy rock and metal in my mind, and one isn't necessarily any better than the other, so compiling a list of my favourites in a single poll is just impossible. But at the end of the day, I don't take the ranking from 1 to 300 as the point of polls like this - I like getting introduced to stuff I might never have heard or given a chance to before.

But really, no Tad in this list at all? WTF??

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

(I know I didn't vote for God's Balls, which I believe was the nominated one, as it's filed in my mind as 'rock', not 'metal', but Inhaler and Infrared Riding Hood are totally metal.)

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

I like getting introduced to stuff I might never have heard or given a chance to before.

Exactly! I always assume everyone has heard the big selling albums so this is a great chance to check out new-to-you albums/bands.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

jj is right btw, God are maybe the heaviest band I've ever seen. Meathead crushes yr skull.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

I would never in a million years have thought of voting for Tad in this poll, but it warms the cockles of my feeble heart that someone out there still feels that strongly about him.

Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

I was just making a heavy joke, tbh.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

Aha yeah, I got that, but MacDara seemed genuinely vexed.

Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

I was kidding, but only half kidding - Tad is/was/were a fantastic band that is still almost completely overlooked by the canon-setters.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

I can't believe anyone is shocked Tad didn't make it.

xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Look son, I remember seeing Tad and Nirvana on the same bill way back when, and though those scrawny kids were pretty good iirc, they did got tally whomped by the big feller and his mates.

Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

hey I own tad lps, I like them a lot, but they were a bit unlikely to get many ilxors voting for them.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

I know, and now I think on it, it pains me to my colon.

Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

i <3 TAD.

gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

did you vote for tad? I forget.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)

hah, you didn't!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)

btw here is the full tracks list if anyones interested https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Track+Winners

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

I saw that Tad/Nirvana tour. Nirvana might have even been the opener! Christ, I hadn't thought about Tad in forever, and no longer have the tapes. Now I gotta find 'em. I still don't get how some people don't understand the "heavy rock" part of this poll. Tad most definitely qualify.

That's what was great about this poll, mixing up the rock with the metal.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 15 August 2010 03:03 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, Nirvana opened for Tad on that tour.

Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 08:43 (fifteen years ago)

I still don't get how some people don't understand the "heavy rock" part of this poll.

We got that part, but as I explained above, for some of us it must be apples and oranges. For me metal and heavy rock are like twin brothers - they're similar in many ways, but they're not the same thing. I had to go with one or the other.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 15 August 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)

I guess it makes sense to be in the mood for one or the other. I can't imagine anyone of my generation not liking any heavy rock, but it might true of some. For my own site I did make separate lists for metal and heavy rock. But it's also interesting to see how everything matches up together. I keep a master list that mixes metal, rock, reggae, punk, folk, everything that I listen to. Few people are obsessive enough to be motivated to do that, but polls are a great snapshot of peoples' tastes. It would be cool if everyone posted their ballots on their profiles. It's a good way to find things to relate to, or even better yet, learn who's really knowledgeable of some genre and could make recommendations.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks guys for a great poll, so much good stuff to check out. Here's my ballot, n.b. =28 in the falsity index:

Kyuss - Welcome To Sky Valley
Nirvana - In Utero
Faith No More - Angel Dust
Led Zeppelin – IV
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction
The Stooges – Funhouse
AC/DC - Back In Black
Sleep – Dopesmoker
Electric Wizard – Dopethrone
Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
Metallica - Ride The Lightning
Black Sabbath - Vol IV
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Earth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
Nirvana – Nevermind
Melvins – Houdini
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
Led Zeppelin – II
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
Faith No More - The Real Thing
Harvey Milk - Courtesy And Good Will Toward Men
Soundgarden – Badmotorfinger
AC/DC - Highway to Hell
MC5 - Kick Out The Jams
Nirvana – Bleach
Metallica - Metallica (The Black Album)
Electric Wizard - Witchcult Today
Alice In Chains – Dirt
Om - Pilgrimage
Black Sabbath – Paranoid
The Wildhearts - Earth Vs The Wildhearts
Mastodon – Leviathan
Sunn O))) - Monoliths And Dimensions
Black Sabbath – s/t
Carcass – Heartwork
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Kyuss - Blues For The Red Sun
Faith No More - Introduce Yourself
Napalm Death – Scum
Sleep - Holy Mountain
Black Sabbath – Sabotage
Metallica - ...And Justice for All
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Judas Priest - British Steel
Baroness - Blue Record

Neil S, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

cheers neil

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

It would be cool if everyone posted their ballots on their profiles. It's a good way to find things to relate to, or even better yet, learn who's really knowledgeable of some genre and could make recommendations.

― Fastnbulbous,

Good idea.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

I added it to mine.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks to all who voted and again thanks to JJ & Glenn for co-running it. and henry!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Large steak on it's way for henry!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

fastnbulbous did you link to the results on your website?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

i never got around to mentioning how happy i was that Pantera got nowhere near this list.

gg eileen (jjjusten), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

and that the blakc album didnt make it

gg eileen (jjjusten), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

yes, i am a hater. go me!

gg eileen (jjjusten), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)


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