The countdown is wrapping up now, and the full ocean (lake?) (cold lake?!) of stats will soon be made available...
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 August 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)
and i hand you over to my other glamorous assistant Glenn..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
where are Henry and his dumb master?
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)
someone ... someone said there'd be cake over here?
― total satan attitude (kkvgz), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
Godflesh – StreetcleanerCorrupted - El Mundo FrioBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealitySwans – CopGodflesh – PureNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationBlack Sabbath – s/tSwans - Children of GodSlayer - Reign in BloodCorrupted - Llenandose De GusanosEnvy - All the Footprints You've Ever Left and the Fear Expecting AheadThe Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With SandNapalm Death – ScumThe Obsessed - The ObsessedBolt Thrower - Realm of ChaosBlack Sabbath – ParanoidThe Stooges - FunhouseElectric Wizard - Witchcult TodayBlack Sabbath - Vol IVCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionNeurosis - Through Silver In BloodElectric Wizard - Come My FanaticsMotörhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithTad - God's BallsCorrupted - Se Hace Por Los Suenos AsesinosFudge - Tunnel - Hate Songs In E-MinorMotörhead - Ace of SpadesElectric Wizard – DopethroneIsis – CelestialSleep – DopesmokerCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusEarth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's SkullWolves In The Throne Room - Diadem Of 12 StarsNeurosis - Given To The RisingGrief – DismalMotörhead – BomberTorche – MeanderthalBlut Aus Nord - memoria vetusta II: dialogue with the starsCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessSleep - Holy MountainThin Lizzy - Live and DangerousCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumDischarge - Hear Nothing See Nothing Say NothingKhanate – Things ViralThe Young Gods - L'eau RougeSlayer - South of HeavenIron Maiden - Live After DeathBolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No LawCarcass - Reek of PutrefactionKatatonia - Discouraged Ones
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
Is lack of Bolt Thrower maybe the most surprising thing in the poll?
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
Mock away:
Orphaned Land - MaboolBlack Sabbath - s/tSystem of a Down - ToxicityIron Maiden - Number of the BeastQueens of the Stone Age - Songs for the DeafDistorted - Voices from WithinDisturbed - The SicknessKyuss - Blues for the Red SunAmaseffer - Slaves for LifeMastodon - LeviathanDio - Holy DiverEluveitie - Evocation IStrapping Young Lad - SYLEntombed - Wolverine BluesAnthrax - Among the LivingJamie Saft - Black ShabbisGuns n' Roses - Appetite for DestructionIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerIron Maiden - PowerslaveLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiLinkin Park - Hybrid TheoryManowar - Fighting the WorldAlice in Chains - DirtAerosmith - Toys in the AtticAC/DC - Highway to HellSkyclad - A Burnt Offering for the Bone IdolVan Halen - 1984Tool - LateralusThe Mars Volta - De-Loused in the ComatoriumThe Stooges - FunhouseAtheist - Unquestionable PresenceBaroness - Blue RecordAndrew W.K. - I Get WetAt the Drive-In - Relationship Of CommandMastodon - Crack the SkyeBurzum - FilosofemKiss - DestroyerNirvana - NevermindMetallica - Master of PuppetsOrphaned Land - The Never Ending Way of ORWarriORPearl Jam - TenConverge - Jane DoeDark Tranquility - The GalleryBlack Sabbath - Master of RealityMoonsorrow - VerisakeetMotley Crue - Shout at the DevilNine Inch Nails - The Downward SpiralRage Against the Machine - Evil EmpireSmashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
when I submitted this, I'd forgotten that I hate Axl Rose
Tool - UndertowRush - 2112Mr. Bungle - s/tNine Inch Nails - The Downward SpiralTool - AenimaA Perfect Circle - Thirteenth StepRush - A Farewell To KingsMinistry - Land Of Rape & HoneyLed Zeppelin - IVJanes Addiction - Ritual De Lo HabitualTool - LateralusRush - Moving picturesNine Inch Nails - BrokenLiving Colour - VividMarilyn Manson - Mechanical AnimalsJanes Addiction - Nothings ShockingFishbone - Truth And SoulSmashing Pumpkins - GishIron Maiden - PowerslavePrimus - Frizzle FryAnthrax - Among The LivingSmashing Pumpkins - Siamese DreamAerosmith - Toys In The AtticNirvana - NevermindBad Brains - I Against IA Perfect Circle - mer de nomsEmperor - Anthems To The Welkin At DuskTherion - TeliFaith No More - The Real ThingGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionRush - HemispheresLed Zeppelin - IIPrimus - Sailing The Seas Of CheeseAnthrax - Spreading The DiseaseAC/DC - Back In BlackBon Jovi - Slippery When WetDef Leppard - HysteriaWhite Zombie - Astrocreep 2000Pearl Jam - TenPearl Jam - VitalogyThe Cult - ElectricFaith No More - Angel DustOpeth - Blackwater ParkMinistry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to TasteFront Line Assembly - MilleniumKiss - DestroyerRush - Permanent Waves
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
Here's my ballot - stuff that didn't place in bold:
1. Black Sabbath - s/t2. Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny3. AC/DC - High Voltage4. Led Zeppelin - III5. Hawkwind - Space Ritual6. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978)7. Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous8. Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies9. Motörhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith10. Scorpions - In Trance11. Iron Maiden - Live After Death12. Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality13. Judas Priest - Sin After Sin14. Slade - Slayed?15. Def Leppard - High 'N' Dry16. Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love17. Aerosmith - Rocks18. Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction19. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti20. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak21. Alcest - Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde22. Yob - The Great Cessation23. Celtic Frost - Monotheist24. Flower Travellin' Band - Satori25. Iron Maiden - Killers26. Cinderella - Long Cold Winter27. Agalloch - Ashes Against The Grain28. Earth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull29. Electric Wizard - Dopethrone30. Ratt - Ratt EP31. Nazareth - Loud 'N' Proud32. Ufomammut - Snailking33. Scorpions - Taken By Force34. Rush - 211235. Cathedral - The Guessing Game36. Faith No More - Angel Dust37. Van Halen - Women and Children First38. The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand39. Spirit Caravan – Jug Fulla Sun40. Opeth - Ghost Reveries41. Primordial - To the Nameless Dead42. Witchcraft - Witchcraft43. Ulver - Shadows Of The Sun44. Deep Purple - Fireball45. Riot - Fire Down Under46. Danzig - Danzig I 47. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus 48. Electric Wizard - Witchcult Today 49. Metallica - Master of Puppets 50. Sleep - Dopesmoker
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)
marvel at the falseness
Van Halen - Van Halen (1978)Def Leppard - HysteriaAerosmith - RocksKilling Joke - Killing JokeSlayer - Seasons in the AbyssDanzig - Danzig IMegadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buyin?AC/DC - Highway to HellThe Cult - ElectricIron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
Faith No More - Angel DustGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionQuiet Riot - mental healthAndrew WK - I Get WetIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerDef Leppard - PyromaniaRush - Permanent WavesZZ Top - EliminatorBlack Sabbath - ParanoidRush - Moving pictures
Helmet - MeantimeLed Zeppelin - Houses of The HolyVan Halen - 1984Anthrax - Among The LivingJanes Addiction - Nothings ShockingVan Halen - Fair WarningJudas Priest - British SteelS.O.D. - Speak English or DieMinistry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to TasteVoivod - Nothingface
Cinderella - Night SongsRatt - Out of the CellarTesla - Mechanical ResonanceVoivod - Angel RatDeftones - Around The FurMelvins - HoudiniProng - CleansingLed Zeppelin - IVDokken - Under Lock and KeyMetallica - Master of Puppets
Motörhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithQueens of the Stone Age - Songs for the DeafOzzy Osbourne – Diary of a MadmanSaint Vitus - Born Too LateThe Accused - Martha Splatterhead's Maddest Stories Ever Told
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)
Black Sabbath - Master Of RealityBlue Oyster Cult - Tyranny And MutationBlack Sabbath - Vol IVMontrose - Montrose AC/DC - PowerageBlack Sabbath - Never Say DieRush - 2112Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath Blue Oyster Cult - Secret TreatiesFunkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On Iron Maiden - PowerslaveAlice Cooper - Love It to DeathDeep Purple - Made in JapanMegadeth - Rust In PeaceZZ Top - Tres Hombres UFO - Strangers in the NightSlayer - South of HeavenDeep Purple - In RockMotörhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithAlice Cooper - KillerBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBudgie - In For The KillPantera - Cowboys From HellAlice Cooper - Billion Dollar BabiesBlack Sabbath - Born AgainCaptain Beyond - Captain BeyondBoston - BostonBlackSabbath - Sabotage Blue Oyster Cult - Agents of FortuneHigh on Fire - Blessed Black WingsTrouble - TroubleBlack Sabbath - s/tRainbow - Rising
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)
The Stooges - FunhouseLed Zeppelin - IVAerosmith - RocksGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionFunkadelic - Maggot BrainLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerMotörhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithAC/DC - PowerageBlack Sabbath - SabotageLed Zeppelin - Houses of The HolyAerosmith - Toys In The AtticMotörhead - OrgasmatronAC/DC - Let There Be RockLed Zeppelin - IIIKid Rock - Devil Without a CauseMinistry - Psalm 69Black Sabbath - Master Of RealityMotörhead - OverkillBlack Sabbath - ParanoidLed Zeppelin - IIVan Halen - Women and Children FirstAC/DC - For Those About to RockBurzum - FilosofemLed Zeppelin - In Through The Out DoorMC5 - Kick Out The JamsMotörhead - Iron FistBoston - BostonLed Zeppelin - Led ZeppelinMonster Magnet - PowertripType O Negative - Bloody KissesMotörhead - Ace of SpadesAC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt CheapKiss - Alive!Deep Purple - In RockMetallica - Metallica (The Black Album)King Crimson - RedVan Halen - 1984Led Zeppelin - PresenceBlack Sabbath - s/tDeep Purple - Machine HeadKiss - KissQueen - News of the WorldTed Nugent - Double Live Gonzo!Blue Cheer - Vincebus EruptumRainbow - RisingJudas Priest - Sin After SinLinkin Park - Hybrid TheoryBlack Sabbath - Born AgainIron Maiden - Killers
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)
Blue Oyster Cult - Secret TreatiesBlack Sabbath - ParanoidRush - HemispheresBlack Sabbath - Vol IVRainbow - RisingJudas Priest - Sad Wings of DestinyQueen - IIRush - Permanent WavesVoivod - Angel RatSlayer - Reign in BloodRush - Moving PicturesBlack Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody SabbathBlue Oyster Cult - Tyranny And MutationAngel Witch - s/tVenom – Welcome To HellRush - A Farewell To KingsBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealityQueen - Sheer Heart AttackAlice Cooper - KillerBoston - BostonUFO - Strangers in the NightThin Lizzy - JailbreakVoivod – NothingfaceBlue Oyster Cult - Blue Oyster CultMontrose - MontroseSwans - Children of GodRush - 2112Thin Lizzy - Johnny the FoxVenom - Black MetalHigh Tide - Sea ShantiesAC/DC - Let There Be RockThin Lizzy - Bad ReputationAlice Cooper - Love It to DeathCaptain Beyond - Captain BeyondZeni Geva – Total CastrationBlue Cheer - Vincebus EruptumHawkwind - Warrior On The Edge Of TimeDiamond Head - Lightning To The NationsVan Halen - Van Halen (1978)Black Widow - SacrificeMotorhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithJudas Priest - Sin After SinArmageddon - ArmageddonBlack Sabbath - Never Say DieThe Young Gods - L'eau RougeIron Maiden - Iron MaidenMelvins - OzmaBudgie - BudgieManowar - Sign of the HammerUriah Heep - Salisbury
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
Led Zeppelin - IVGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionJanes Addiction - Ritual De Lo HabitualLed Zeppelin - IIIManic Street Preachers - Gold Against The SoulNirvana - NevermindManic Street Preachers - The Holy BibleNirvana - In UteroLed Zeppelin - Led ZeppelinPearl Jam - Yield
Led Zeppelin - Houses of The HolyAt The Drive-In - Relationship Of CommandLed Zeppelin - In Through The Out DoorLed Zeppelin - PresenceBon Jovi - Slippery When WetLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiLinkin Park - Hybrid TheoryManic Street Preachers - Generation TerroristsFaith No More - Angel DustGuns 'N Roses - Lies
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese DreamAC/DC - Back In BlackPearl Jam - VsMetallica - Metallica (The Black Album)MC5 - Kick Out The JamsIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerDef Leppard - HysteriaMarilyn Manson - Mechanical AnimalsEvanescence - FallenLed Zeppelin - II
Marilyn Manson - Antichrist SuperstarSmashing Pumpkins - Gish
The ones that missed out are in bold. I stalled at 32.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
Matt #2 with a killer ballot.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
Not sure why I rated Never Say Die ahead of the debut and Sabotage, in retrospect.
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
you guys were supposed to wait on the ballots until glenn posted the stats
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)
I have Never Say Die at #6 ahead of both as well, and dont regret it for a second.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, August 13, 2010 4:26 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
all these fucking rules. it's supposed to be metal, man.
Top 300 rules recap please
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)
We have to vote on the rules in a separate poll.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
Let's vote on the rules. Either Emperor or Boris will win.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
Wallow in the numbers:
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionNirvana - In UteroConverge - Jane DoeMelvins - LysolSunn O))) - Monoliths And DimensionsConverge - You Fail MeBoris - At Last - FeedbackerBlack Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody SabbathPearl Jam - VitalogyFunkadelic - Maggot BrainMelvins - HoudiniElectric Wizard - DopethroneBlack Sabbath - ParanoidSunn O))) - Black OneDeftones - Around The FurLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiPrimus - Sailing The Seas Of CheeseBoris - PinkManic Street Preachers - The Holy BiblePearl Jam - VsBoris - Heavy RocksGuns N' Roses - Use Your Illusion 2Melvins - BullheadEarth - Earth 2Kyuss - Welcome To Sky ValleyNirvana - NevermindFunkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It OnBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealitySunn O))) - Flight of the BehemothKilling Joke - Killing JokeElectric Wizard - Come My FanaticsSleep - Holy MountainKyuss - Blues For The Red SunElectric Wizard - Witchcult TodayGuns N' Roses - Use Your Illusion 1At The Drive-In - Relationship Of CommandConverge - Axe To fallRage Against the Machine - Evil EmpireSleep - DopesmokerDeftones - White Pony
― gman59, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)
holy shit, as usual the stats are incredibly detailed and i really can't imagine how much time you must have spent working on them
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Mordy+Metal lolololololol
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, I'm #15 false metal voter even though that includes ZENI GEVA you morons
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
Also (black metal) love to the 3 people here for voted for Black Shabbis with me: https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&thread=%405961.%5BPoints+·+Votes%5D%3A%231%3A%231%3A%231%3A%231.key+Votes%3A%231.nodes
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)
Woah, since when is Dark Tranquility false metal?
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
We need Joey DeMaio here to tell us, if he's finished buying broccoli for his mum anyway
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
I have a false metal contention to be dealt with!
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
Tracks full listAlbums Full listArtist winners
Voter Centricity
Voter Similarity
My Link Title
Album Kvltosis
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
If its not on Metal Archives = False Metal
Ranking of FALSE METAL VOTERS
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
and yes we spent weeks on the stats, i had ideas glenn fulfilled them Everyone thank Glenn for everything!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
Um hello?
www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=8
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)
omg these stats are the funniest thing in the world
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
Mordy, it's fixed now
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
I can't believe I wasn't the falsest of false! I demand a recount.
― emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
lol, 85th out of 90 on centricity
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
(By the way, this is AWESOME)
― emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)
How is individual voter falsity calculated? It doesn't look like it's just based on quantity -- did you guys somehow distinguish between varying levels of falseness?
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)
i am the no. 10 metal infidel of ilx. hurrah!
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
lol #5 on the falseness chart
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
Checked metal archives, if it wasn't on there it was false. Took me a whole day to check Metal Archives and then add the tags. and glenn tabulated it in 10 seconds by just tabulating only stuff with the false tag
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
also the ballots closest to mine were some dude and... Johnny Fever!
cripes sake, mordy - take your falseness like a man, will ya?
xps
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
I am the highest voter for the genre 'WTF'. Hurrah!
― emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
I will protest my falseness with my last breath!
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
lol John and I representing for Frizzle Fry
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
kvltosis top 10 is fantastic:
Led Zeppelin · PresenceRush · Permanent WavesBoston · BostonRush · Moving PicturesMotörhead · OverkillBlue Öyster Cult · Agents of FortuneTool · AenimaThe Cult · ElectricRush · 2112Led Zeppelin · Houses of the Holy
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)
I consider Mastodon, Opeth, High On Fire, Enslaved, Gojira, Nachtmystium and others to be that high caliber.
ok, need to clarify one point:
i meant today's bands are not up to past groups re commercial viability, rather than the aesthetic worth.
and now i'm off to dinner...
xp
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
Johnny did you get my reply to your email?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, just now saw it.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
At the moment I'm listening to Saint Vitus - Born Too Late. I would never have guessed second rate 80s revivalist doom would nearly beat Paranoid. That's just crazy. I like The Obsessed, Pentagram and Trouble well enough -- saw the latter two live in the past year. I remember hearing the Saint Vitus debut way back when since I heard everything that came out on SST. I could appreciate what they were trying to do, but the recording was shit. Maybe because they had even less a recording budget than Sabbath did 15 years previously, or maybe because Spot just couldn't get a proper thick low end to save his life. Born Too Late is definitely an improvement over their debut and would benefit from a remaster. But top ten?
Apparently it got in the Decibel hall of fame, it's a very influential album, beloved of lots of people.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
I'm glad it got in.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
All in all I think its a great list of 300 massive records. If 10 or 15 of seem way out of line you should have vetoed them during the process.
I thought all subgenres were well represented and it was pretty even. Apparently doom and black metal is very popular on ILM, and if you let people vote for Jane's Addiction and MSP and Soungarden then they are going to because thats just what some think is really hard music... suck it up, this wasn't a strictly metal poll.
Anyway, I'm really glad that YOB and Agalloch placed. Like every YOB album made it! Thats an amazing result! Don't just look at the stuff you think was bad and messed up, look at the all the amazing stuff that made it in the list.
Where something places is always going to be bollocks, just think of it as an awesome list of 300 great albums that 60 or so weird internet people thought were the best heavy/hard rock and metal albums. I see very little evidence of any tactical voting or conspiracy to get certain things placed higher.
Thats just my two cents. I'm not really following the thread, I've kind of just been in bed drinking juice and keeping my crackers down.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)
Just imagine if Boris - Pink had placed top 10 like some expected, lol.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)
But we should do a heaviest band of all time bracket poll to settle the matter once and for all on this topic of "heaviness"
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)
Tad?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)
or a boris,mastodon,torche,isis,pelican had taken up the top 5. That village voice guy would be hunting us all down!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)
heaviest or extreme? I don't think you could decide who was the heaviest.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i think "God" would be on my shortlist for heaviest, but I'm never even sure they're metal.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
noone could ever agree on it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
or like painkiller maybe? the grind jazz stuff seems to have a weight thats hard to ignore
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
Electric Wizard is the heaviest.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)
pure noise would be out but ambient drone would be in.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)
Im not sure ilm is ready for more bracket polls. or metal ones. skot & smithy might get mad
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)
and whiney!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)
we don't have to do it right away. just tuck the idea away for later.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
Coming to this really fucking late. Having guilt about the albums I should have nominated/voted for, even if it wouldn't have made a difference in the long run. The sheer breadth of the poll must have been a vote-splitter for most of us - I know it was for me. It's an entirely personal thing, but I've got separate classifications for heavy rock and metal in my mind, and one isn't necessarily any better than the other, so compiling a list of my favourites in a single poll is just impossible. But at the end of the day, I don't take the ranking from 1 to 300 as the point of polls like this - I like getting introduced to stuff I might never have heard or given a chance to before.
But really, no Tad in this list at all? WTF??
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)
(I know I didn't vote for God's Balls, which I believe was the nominated one, as it's filed in my mind as 'rock', not 'metal', but Inhaler and Infrared Riding Hood are totally metal.)
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
I like getting introduced to stuff I might never have heard or given a chance to before.
Exactly! I always assume everyone has heard the big selling albums so this is a great chance to check out new-to-you albums/bands.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
jj is right btw, God are maybe the heaviest band I've ever seen. Meathead crushes yr skull.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
I would never in a million years have thought of voting for Tad in this poll, but it warms the cockles of my feeble heart that someone out there still feels that strongly about him.
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
I was just making a heavy joke, tbh.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)
Aha yeah, I got that, but MacDara seemed genuinely vexed.
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)
I was kidding, but only half kidding - Tad is/was/were a fantastic band that is still almost completely overlooked by the canon-setters.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)
I can't believe anyone is shocked Tad didn't make it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)
Look son, I remember seeing Tad and Nirvana on the same bill way back when, and though those scrawny kids were pretty good iirc, they did got tally whomped by the big feller and his mates.
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
hey I own tad lps, I like them a lot, but they were a bit unlikely to get many ilxors voting for them.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)
I know, and now I think on it, it pains me to my colon.
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)
i <3 TAD.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
did you vote for tad? I forget.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
hah, you didn't!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)
btw here is the full tracks list if anyones interested https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Track+Winners
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)
I saw that Tad/Nirvana tour. Nirvana might have even been the opener! Christ, I hadn't thought about Tad in forever, and no longer have the tapes. Now I gotta find 'em. I still don't get how some people don't understand the "heavy rock" part of this poll. Tad most definitely qualify.
That's what was great about this poll, mixing up the rock with the metal.
― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 15 August 2010 03:03 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, Nirvana opened for Tad on that tour.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 08:43 (fifteen years ago)
I still don't get how some people don't understand the "heavy rock" part of this poll.
We got that part, but as I explained above, for some of us it must be apples and oranges. For me metal and heavy rock are like twin brothers - they're similar in many ways, but they're not the same thing. I had to go with one or the other.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 15 August 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)
I guess it makes sense to be in the mood for one or the other. I can't imagine anyone of my generation not liking any heavy rock, but it might true of some. For my own site I did make separate lists for metal and heavy rock. But it's also interesting to see how everything matches up together. I keep a master list that mixes metal, rock, reggae, punk, folk, everything that I listen to. Few people are obsessive enough to be motivated to do that, but polls are a great snapshot of peoples' tastes. It would be cool if everyone posted their ballots on their profiles. It's a good way to find things to relate to, or even better yet, learn who's really knowledgeable of some genre and could make recommendations.
― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks guys for a great poll, so much good stuff to check out. Here's my ballot, n.b. =28 in the falsity index:
Kyuss - Welcome To Sky ValleyNirvana - In UteroFaith No More - Angel DustLed Zeppelin – IVMetallica - Master of PuppetsBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealityGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionThe Stooges – FunhouseAC/DC - Back In BlackSleep – DopesmokerElectric Wizard – DopethroneManic Street Preachers - The Holy BibleMetallica - Ride The LightningBlack Sabbath - Vol IVSlayer - Reign in BloodEarth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's SkullSaint Vitus - Born Too LateNirvana – NevermindMelvins – HoudiniIron Maiden - The Number of the BeastFunkadelic - Maggot BrainLed Zeppelin – IIQueens of the Stone Age - Songs for the DeafFaith No More - The Real ThingHarvey Milk - Courtesy And Good Will Toward MenSoundgarden – BadmotorfingerAC/DC - Highway to HellMC5 - Kick Out The JamsNirvana – BleachMetallica - Metallica (The Black Album)Electric Wizard - Witchcult TodayAlice In Chains – DirtOm - PilgrimageBlack Sabbath – ParanoidThe Wildhearts - Earth Vs The WildheartsMastodon – LeviathanSunn O))) - Monoliths And DimensionsBlack Sabbath – s/tCarcass – HeartworkHawkwind - Space RitualKyuss - Blues For The Red SunFaith No More - Introduce YourselfNapalm Death – ScumSleep - Holy MountainBlack Sabbath – SabotageMetallica - ...And Justice for AllMegadeth - Rust In PeaceObituary - Slowly We RotJudas Priest - British SteelBaroness - Blue Record
― Neil S, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)
cheers neil
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)
It would be cool if everyone posted their ballots on their profiles. It's a good way to find things to relate to, or even better yet, learn who's really knowledgeable of some genre and could make recommendations.― Fastnbulbous,
― Fastnbulbous,
Good idea.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)
I added it to mine.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
Hey everyone please remember to check the results genre by genre lists. Where you can see the top ranking albums in each genre. They're in a folder on the left menu, you may need to expand it to see the genres. There's lots of genres includingBlack Metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Black+MetalDeath metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Death+MetalDoom metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Doom+MetalHeavy Metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Heavy+MetalHeavy Rock https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Heavy+RockThrash Metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Thrash+MetalSludge Metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Sludge+Metal
and more (including false metal)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 02:06 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks to all who voted and again thanks to JJ & Glenn for co-running it. and henry!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)
Large steak on it's way for henry!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)
fastnbulbous did you link to the results on your website?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)
i never got around to mentioning how happy i was that Pantera got nowhere near this list.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
and that the blakc album didnt make it
yes, i am a hater. go me!