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the worst of the post rock litter, portentious cod-melodrama (oh, wait, contellation have that crown!). but, what do you think? Cerberus Shoals' ...and farewell to hightide is one of my favourite records and the best 'postrock' album i've heard (i'm not damning with faint praise - its a cool album) - but everything else i've heard by them had been irritating world/postrock, whatever that means. tarentel album is portentious gubbins, kilowatthours are mediocre. but Halifax Pier, what a great name, but i daren't risk buying anything by them, for the reasons outlined above...

gareth, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Tarental singles comp satisfied the shoegaze in my soul, though I've not heard much else from the label.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For the luvva ... FRIDGE! Now, of course, they're on a different label in the UK, but FRIDGE! are definitely worth checking out. FRIDGE ! (I'll let the MP3s speak where words would fail to offer anything outside of the usual hackneyed circle-jerking.) (_Happiness_, in particular, is quite nice.) (Gareth, if FRIDGE! are included in your post-rock indictment, I'll be mighty chagrined, and I'll send Ned over to beat you senseless.)

Daver, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't want to beat up Gareth, I want to have another drink with him. A far nicer prospect. :-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Admittedly, I'm biased (I live in the city where Temporary Residence semi-permanently resides), but America would be much the poorer without a domestic home for Fridge and Kammerflimmer Kollektief. Of course, I sorta like the Sonna and Tarentel records, so what do I know?

Lee G, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if i sound harsh its because i loved '...and farewell to hightide' so much

gareth, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cerberus Shoal post rock?? They are 100% highly resinated Maine Hippies. Fridge were stellar live. I saw them the day after they had all of their equipment stolen and were leaning on the new gear.

brg30, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Ned, Tarental is a great band, in that shoegazing ambient way.

Geoffrey Balasoglou, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
That Eluvium record might make my top ten. The new Tarentel is sweet. sounds almost completely improv. long quiet pieces that glow warmly. i've never heard the old stuff. is it really noisy? do i need it all? are the old records more song-based or jam-based? great drums! (the drummer is from a group called Sonna who I have never heard.) some of it reminds me of the more improvy moments of Subarachnoid Space.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 23 August 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I forget that guy's name, the drummer from Sonna, but he is effin' phenomenal. I mean, Sonna was never a band where'd you'd normally go, "Wow, awesome drummer," but you did, cause he is.

So he's playing with who now? I'm a bit out of the TR loop these days.

Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the new tarentel record(s) were bascially improv, from what the engineer told me; I've seen them do these pieces live a few times and they're based around the drum rhythm and vary in length. the older tarentel albums aren't like this, nor are they noisey; the first one is kind of standard post-rock, the second is crushingly beautiful with a lot of ambience.

Sonna was Jeremy Devine's band, IIRC, so, kindof the label house band. I guess they aren't really a goind concern now. They weren't bad. The drummer is amazing and really changed Tarentel's sound a lot when he joined; they're essentially a different band than the one that made the first two albums.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

im afraid i do include fridge. i dont like them, much. but, what about halifax pier, no one ever answered my question

Kentish Weald (gareth), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

they're folkier than the rest. they're ok. you wouldn't like it though.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

which tarentel album were you referencing in the first post? you'd like "the order of things".

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Not on Temp Res but Cerberus Shoal's Bastion Of Itchy Preeves is a thing of beauty.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't sybraite on temporary residence? i liked that most recent one... though actually
now that i think of it i think that one was on 4ad... haven't heard the earlier stuff, but
if it's anything like that...

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

he released stuff on temporary residence (an album and a singles comp of things previously released by other labels) but he is signed for 4ad at the moment. I like all of his releases but nonument was a big step forward to my ears.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

will temporary residence ever finish the Travels in Constants series 2? subscribers wait in wonder.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

im in a mort garson/krysztof komeda/terry durham/dorothy ashby/ann lee patton kind of mood at the moment, perhaps if i were to think of TR in that way, i might like it more?

the tarentel lp had a black sleeve. i wonder, sometimes, did i mean to buy a tristeza lp instead? i havent heard them, so i dont know, but it does seem feasible

Kentish Weald (gareth), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
Can we do an updated S/D? It seems like I might really like some of these bands.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

C. Eddy to thread! As it has transpired he's a fan too.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
i was underwhelmed by the two recent tarentel EPs for some reason. and they were recorded at the exact same time as the album from last year that i loved (i think) so it doesn't make much sense.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 3 April 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

No way, Fridge, Eluvium, Kammerflimmer Kollektief, Explosions In the sky. . . I defenitely wouldsn't say they're among the worst of the post-rock litter.

AbXy6001, Monday, 4 April 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

Rumah Sakit was cool

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Monday, 4 April 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

Actually their first album was good and then crap afterwards I guess.

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Monday, 4 April 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm still holding out in the idle hope we get Q3 of TiC some time this year, and it still has maybe any of the planned bands on it.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 4 April 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

Is that the 2nd TiC that's still kicking around? I always meant to subscribe, but never did. Got the first TiC, though (somewhere). (I could probably say "I have *INSERT THING HERE* (somewhere)" for 90% of my stuff.) Could someone indulge my laziness & post who's participating (pending or otherwise) in the 2nd series?

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Second series is all over the place. At least one of the bands (Arab Strap) have pulled out over TRL being utterly incompetent, and the only big/non-TRL name left still apparently attached is Black Heart Procession.

American Analog Set
At Right Angles (Nathan from Halifax Pier)
The Black Heart Procession
Colophon (Jefre from Tarentel)
Curtis Harvey (of Rex/Pullman)
The Drift (Danny from Tarentel)
Explosions In The Sky
Kilowatthours
Mono

Is supposedly the final 9 months of year 2 (2003), following Appendix Out, Songs: Ohia and Sybarite in the first quarter. At Right Angles, Kilowatthours and Colophon managed to ship as quarter 2.

TRL have promised freebies to make up for the inconvenience, but you can guess how much of them have been seen (I think there was an In-Sound type sampler with the last lot and there are rumours of an Eluvium DVD with the next lot, but I'll believe it when I see it - especially when according to TRL quarter 3 was "at pressing" in about November).

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

some of these bands haven't recorded their stuff yet, which is why stuff has been delayed.

The Drift are amazing.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 4 April 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Rumah Sakit have reunited, at least for a small while.

And I've already talked about my love of Eluvium.

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

At least one of the bands (Arab Strap) have pulled out over TRL being utterly incompetent...

wtf?!?!????!

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

The Idea of TiC is superb - and God knows some of the first series was worth waiting for, especially the Low and Mogwai sets - but this is now getting beyond a joke.

Fer Christs sake, I have moved twice (I think) since I subscribed to year two!! The lack of Arab Strap (sniff!)is bad enough, but my breath is getting less and less bated even for the sublime Explosions in the Sky and the rather wonderful Black Heart Procession.

And having just checked the website, it seems we aren't even getting vague updates anymore...

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

j3r3my's been hella busy, cut him some slack.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Stencil - I think 2 years is cutting him some slack!

And bear in mind this is a subscription; that means that TR has had the money for these releases for over two years.

Look,I'm not suggesting the product is not worth waiting for; it always has been and I'm sure it always will be. But we aren't even getting news updates on TiC now, nearly 18 months after year 2 should have finished.

And I'm not asking for much - just what the position is with Q3 release and if we can expect to see it, say before the end of summer? I know how good these EPs can be and I wanna know when I can have my next fix!!


Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

a bunch of that stuff shipped, though. I swear I got the black heart procession ep. in fact, I think all of them shipped except forone or two.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

The last thing I received was the same as aldo ( At Right Angles, Kilowatthours and Colophon - vols 16, 17, 18) in about September/October last year.

There is nothing on the archive news lists on TR to suggest any other volumes have been shipped.

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

why don't you try contacting him directly, instead of bitching about it? you might actually get an answer.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Stencil - Apologies - you are, of course, totally correct.

I've just e-mailed TR. When I get a response I'll post it here.

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

you know what, you probably shouldn't post it.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Why? My e-mail included a request to post any reply I receive to ILM.

Of course, if he doesn't want me to post it, I won't.

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

okay, that's cool. as long as you asked for permission.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

On an Arab Strap x-post, I can't remember all the detail but Aidan posted it at length on the Strap website at one point.

Twice they offered some material that TRL turned down (one was a set of demos, one a bundle of unreleased songs) that could be TiC exclusive. They also offered to record something specific during their last US tour (yes, it's that long ago) which TRL failed to arrange - I think there actually was something booked eventually, but not until after the Strap were back in the UK which isn't exactly convenient. I think there was even a third offer of material, one track of which turned up on a British comp, which was rejected.

Apologies for any inaccuracies, I'm working from memories of the Strap board from a couple of years ago. Also it's only one side of the story, I guess.

on a TiC x-post, I asked on the TiC boards in late January (I think - can't check because they've been taken down, prosumably because of all of the pr0n spam) when we might get Q3. J3r3my responded that it would be "soon", it was "at pressing" but they were waiting for the Eluvium DVD which was a late addition but "probably" shouldn't hold up shipping. I guess it's entirely possible they've shipped in the US and international orders have been overlooked, in which case sorry for the bitching but SEND THEM PLZ.

I don't want to sound like I don't love this ep series, because some of them are amazing, but it's been late almost since the first orders for 2003 were accepted and since then non-TRL bands (which, let's face it, are the draw for a lot of people) have dropped out to be replaced by offshoots and side projects of established TRL outfits (which may not be a bad thing, without hearing them it's hard to tell). In fact, had it not been the Strap they were replacing the lat eaddition of EitS would have been a nice surprise.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

J3r3my responded to my e-mail:

Hey Jeff,

Sorry for the delays, but it has become par for the course for this series. The next set is (hopefully) due in July, and will consist of the following artists:

Explosions In The Sky
Eluvium
The Drift

Each CD will include more than 30 minutes of new, unreleased music. That's our attempt at making it worth the wait.

Thanks,
Jeremy
Temporary Residence Ltd.

Eits are next! That will make the wait worthwhile. And big thanks to Jeremy for getting in touch as quickly as he did.

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Though the Eluvium DVD seems to have dropped off the plot.

"That's our attempt at making it worth the wait."

THAT'S WHAT WE PAID FOR.

I should stop bitching, there's an EitS ep coming soon. Although I note Eluvium weren't in the "9 remaining acts" list above - $10 says they've replaced BHP, who have pulled out.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

You know, TiC still hasn't completed (one disc to come). I was a bit off about it ^^^ I suppose.

Anyway, I going to start a TRL poll but 135 releases is too much, probably, given the number of people who would vote in it.

aldo, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)


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