Village Green Preservation Society Vs. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

both organisations are fronts for vice rings btw

village green hands down

cannot understand what the fuck led them to make phenomenal cat though

Village Green, no question

Oh Geir, we need to put a run for SPLHCB on the board, pls!

Village Green. Not that Pepper's is bad or anything, just not as good as the Kinks.

Village Green. Mick Avory's drumming on 'Wicked Annabella' alone makes it a better album than Sgt. Pepper (which I still like a lot, but 'Lovely Rita' is the only song from the album I think I want to listen to as much as any song off Village Green).

xpost - 'Phenomenal Cat' is a direct reference to a character from Dylan Thomas's Under Milk Wood which was reportedly the inspiration for the entire album. Not sure that makes it better. I love because it's weird and faintly disturbing.

Village Green by several thousand light years.

village green though both are great

Probably Village Green because Pepper has too many kinda lame moments, and Village Green has more rockers.. although nothing on VGPS tops the coda of "Lovely Rita."

Another opportunity to tell the Beatles to fuck off

Ray and Dave Davies: telling The Beatles to fuck off since before you were born...

The Village Green Preservation Society kept their gear in my mum's garage. Sgt Pepper did not.

Also they made the better album. I'm not sire if this is related. ;)

OH FUCK OFF

Ray and Dave Davies: telling The Beatles to fuck off since before you were born...

Not since before I was born....I had three blessedly Beatle free years: too damn young to enjoy it though.

Sgt. Fucking Pepper's

village green is the one 60s pop record i actually like better than the beatles' 65-69 stretch

oh wait, forgot about odessey and oracle, nevermind that

I love VGPS, but this is still "Sgt. Pepper". The album may have been slightly overrated (but not much!) in the 70s, but it is terribly underrated in RYM.

"Odessey & Oracle" is still even better though. That one and "Pet Sounds" are the only 60s albums I rank above "Sgt. Pepper".

Yeah, one album has "A Day in the Life" and one does not.

It also has "Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite", which is a fantastic example of early symphonic rock. Definitely my favourite track on the album.

I can't hear "We are the village green preservation society" without thinking "God's gift to ballroom notoriety." I haven't heard the rest of the album, so I can't really vote.

yeah I just want to vote on the two songs. can't vote

both albums have a handful of songs I don't particularly like and/or emobody the worst qualities of either band. this is kinda hard actually...

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i didn't realize my poll was which one you don't like least,,,,sad

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Hey! Thanks for all the votes people--my first ever poll....results I can agree with too. Now I gotta think up a better poll. "Arthur" vs. "Let It Be"? Kidding!

"Face To Face" vs. "Rubber Soul" would be a good one. So would "Revolver" vs. "Percy". Now I'M kidding! (About the second one.)

you're right, henry...the two floodgate openers (is that right about f2f?)...do it!

"Village Green" vs. "Odessey and Oracle" would be a good one, too. Anything vs. The Beatles is catnip for contrarians around here.

Village Green V Odessey and Oracle V SF Sorrow V Ogden's? Anyone?

vu&n V wl/wh V vu V loaded V vu 69 V VU

I've never heard SF Sorrow - is it good?

I don't think it's all that.

Anyway...

What put me off for years was the 'god bless donald duck' line, which is just plain wrong in the context of 'Preserving the english way of life'

What made me seek it out was the use of "People take pictures of each other" and the cheapness of the 10CD Kinks 'euro' LP box.

So, I cannot compare an album that is admittedly great, with an album that my parents bought and I grew up with and is embedded in my DNA, like it or not.

ahem..

What made me seek it out was the use of "People take pictures of each other" in an advert for Cameras (I think)"......

The Kinks Pye Albums Box Set (10 CDs) : POLL

I liked "Arthur" better, so...

Village Green isn't event he best Kinks album. A couple of good tracks, but it mimsies around a lot and doesn't deliver the punch that Sgt does (again and again might I add) - and I don't even rate Sgt that much.

A couple of good tracks

Reassured by this, because I generally never agree with anything dog latin says

i don't even hate the beatles but SPLHCB is full of filler imho

pretty sure it doesn't deliver any punches at all?

(xp) Reassured by that fact that I'm still disagreeing with everything dog latin says that is

pretty sure it doesn't deliver any punches at all?

TBF "Day In the Life" comes barreling out of its corner, throwing a few punches

What put me off for years was the 'god bless donald duck' line, which is just plain wrong in the context of 'Preserving the english way of life'

Well, that's kind of the joke, isn't it? Even the more authentically 'English' Fu Manchu is pulp ephemera, not exactly the kind of reference T.S. Eliot would likely approve of. When reaching for emblems of authentic englishness, the speaker resorts to all these childhood heroes that make it very clear that he's trying to preserve his England, meaning his childhood experiences of it. It's also touches like that which preserve a strong sense of irony in that song and prevent it from being a pure nostalgic wallow (compare to 'Come Dancing' for a purer example of that).

I've never heard SF Sorrow - is it good?

I don't think it's all that.

Anyway...

I think it's fantastic -at least the equal of VGPS

It's great, it's an entirely different beast to VGPS tho

Mumbles, yr entirely right.

Still, I was very young at the time.

So much of this "Odessey/SFSorrow/VGPS" being 'better' than SgtPepper is a misnomer, as who among us 'grew up with' one of thosethree as opposed to Sgt Pep? For what it's worth, Odessey was a bit of a discovery for me about 2 years ago, and thanks to our Alice's habit of singing along with 'Emily' (she'd be about 8 then) in an angelic fashion means it will always be something memorable. But I can imagine skipping a bunch of tracks to get to "Time of the season" ...

I can imagine skipping "Time of the season" and listening to the rest of the album!

No one ever talks about "I Want Her She Wants Me", which is one of my favourite 60s songs and manages to out Rubber Soul Rubber Soul.

Village Green isn't the best Kinks album but SPLHCB isn't the best Beatles album either...

"Odessey" Vs. "Pet Sounds" would be a great one for me. My two fave 60s albums (and the only ones better than The Beatles) up against each other.