What rappers impacted the actual act of rapping the most in the 2000s

I think this is a potentially interesting question to talk about how rappers actually rap -- im not saying rappers need to neccessarily have a bunch of copycats coming up after them. but more the kind of guys whose own style was so singularly identifiable but also felt like they were a part of the performing zeitgeist at some level. like, maybe they were at first seen as weird/not 'standard' rappers but ended up being accepted as great rappers as it became obvious theyd come up with a really unique style that was resonating

a few rappers that come to mind immediately are like

young dro
mystikal
mac dre

where its obvious that their style of performing influenced how ppl rapped after them by being both highly unique, but populist. (gucci is one of these too obv)

t.i.

Young Jeezy

cam'ron

ludacris
gucci
soulja slim ????
50 cent

drake

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lil wayne obv, and eminem

i feel like jadakiss had a pretty big impact as well

dro

oh i didn't see that deej already posted that

can y'all give examples? cuz I'm not really that familiar with Dro outside of "shoulder lean" to be honest so i'm kind of curious... plus it'd make the thread more interesting instead of just listing names

dro took like the texas style rapping about cars to a much more creative level w/ really vivid & funny images -- also dense rhyming

like

my car look cinnamon
my bitch is an indian
plus i'm bilingual
i be talkin like domincans

the whole peanut butter inside/outside jelly sort of rapping was totally post-dro

is there a particular mixtape or album I should check out as an intro?

the pattern of his rhyming is really unorthodox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goYGgQ9GzuA

his first solo album is basically a classic

his whole first album is seriously a classic

DRO! you know the rims i ride on knee high. i be hurting niggas so bad, it made me cry. light skin paint on the chevy, that thang T.I.. chain notorious, call that thang, B.I.... Gee I, wonder what niggas think when they see I

normally i edit the nbombs but i just c+p'd that out the youtube comments

[Verse 3]
High five westside Bankhead prolly clean on me
Four 15's so you know my trunk really beat
Screens start flippin when they flip here the DVD
Ridin down Simpson me and T.I. watchin "Lean on Me"
Carbon 16 on me 30 carat ring on me
Dro be on BET and plus he fuck wit Sheila E
Beamer Z car in the hospital the 'vert V
Cut the top off the Jag... open brain surgery
Box on the Bourbon seats they know me out in Germany
Frog green Kermit Jeep 23's my rims be
Plus I be on Mimm street Kimberly remember me
Tell them haters get on they job I need energy
Leelee gangsta grill wit me Trineshia spent a mill wit me
Ralph I got a bunch like middle school... feelin me?
Baby mama Dolce Gabana ask Tiereney
Dark on black buttons I'm ridin on nothin's

aight cool I'm gonna check the album out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esLxbypsZ9o&feature=player_embedded

the thing about dro is that the lyrics are incomprehensible at times cuz they rhymes are so dense and his accent is soo thick

i was on a robbery
my gats sung operaly

Baby mama Dolce Gabana ask Tiereney

^^^ this is ridiculously dope

pull up in a pearl v
they be like how the hell he
sittin up in the phantom on simpson eating a 12 piece

i'm gonna stop now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b0HCGvEOng

"Yo Cam I got a body in the trunk (why?)
ain't no coke, papi in a slump
and I'm cocky with the pump, and the shotty, kamikaze
body after body chump, y'all prolly gettin jumped, I'm in the lobby gettin drunk
and the weed produce a foul odour
Thou sober, papi calls,drought over"

"cuz of cake mix - 10 homes, 8 whips
but the 8 whips i'm bout to trade for a spaceship
Call me NASA, man
Inside plasma, fam
I got a warrant?
I'm in orbit, come after Cam"

that is such a fucking classic

should be a poll -- favorite young dro recurring theme

color of his cars
his various family members
eating seafood
being in various foreign countries with mobsters

what he's watching on tv when he's in his car

know a nigga healthy cuz my cutlass look like carrot juice

getting back to thread

who was the blueprint for snap/ringtone/jerkin etc

new boyz sampled fabo's voice but there had to be someone before him obv

soulja boy etc

yeah my jaw dropped more than once @ that cam vid

yeah that's some of the best rapping of the decade, flat out

that and wayne's "whale in the boat" 'freestyle'

what is cam'ron up to these days

i always enjoyed his raps

putting out marginally worse raps

good for him

that and wayne's "whale in the boat" 'freestyle'

― J0rdan S., Monday, August 30, 2010 5:25 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i still recite random lines from this all the time

mac dre's style is so slept on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=related

Dre bogart, he shove and he push / start a war for nothin like GW Bush

Bitch gon ask me to come with her to grocery shop / i told her straight up like this, "no sir-ee-bob! Thats not my job! I dont do that / I'm a pimp slash rapper! I thought you knew that!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX83W0KaGlo

i'm the chief like an indian
my freaks are dominican
my feets are amphibian

this joint on the dro album is surprisingly amazing for the ladies joint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQbccZDrn70

color of his cars
his various family members
eating seafood
being in various foreign countries with mobsters

seafood definitely. TILAPIA & SHARK IN THAT PURPLE PONY DROP covers two in one line though.

my favourite young dro line is either "and then i pimp a ho, take a bitch to berlin" or "i ain't scared, i'm ridin round bumpin cyndi lauper"

i mean, tbf, guys like Drake and B.O.B. proved you can be a rapper w/o even rappin

which i think they gleaned from will.i.am tbh

High five westside Bankhead prolly clean on me
Four 15's so you know my trunk really beat
Screens start flippin when they flip here the DVD
Ridin down Simpson me and T.I. watchin "Lean on Me"
Carbon 16 on me 30 carat ring on me
Dro be on BET and plus he fuck wit Sheila E
Beamer Z car in the hospital the 'vert V
Cut the top off the Jag... open brain surgery
Box on the Bourbon seats they know me out in Germany
Frog green Kermit Jeep 23's my rims be
Plus I be on Mimm street Kimberly remember me
Tell them haters get on they job I need energy
Leelee gangsta grill wit me Trineshia spent a mill wit me
Ralph I got a bunch like middle school... feelin me?
Baby mama Dolce Gabana ask Tiereney
Dark on black buttons I'm ridin on nothin's

fucking awesome

yeah that's cool what's the name of the track?

serious question, who raps with an audible Mystikal influence?

i was gpnna say, but i honestly can't figure out the conceit of this thread. like we need to find people that had an impact but not one that can be quantified by copycats?

explicitly said this wasnt about what ppl directly imitate other rappers, im thinking more of an impact in terms of like ... feeling as if their style felt more significant & radical without feeling like they were losing relevence by doing so -- i tried to explain that in the OP anyway. but obv mystikal was actually hugely influential in obvious ways right after he hit in the late 90s. silkk the shocker changed up his entire style after mystikal dropped!

in my exp. most southern rap fans consider him one of the best rappers ever, also

Mystikal was definitely huge and gets respect, but i mean, if your one big example of someone who was directly influenced by him is a less famous labelmate, then i dunno man

State Prop should definitely be in this conversation, for Beanie's same-word semi-rhymes, Young Chris's whisper flow that Jay jacked, all the Philly slang other people started using, etc.

silkk the shocker changed up his entire style after mystikal dropped!

and how is this not copycatting?

i seriously don't understand this thread, not trying 2 zing

i was gpnna say, but i honestly can't figure out the conceit of this thread. like we need to find people that had an impact but not one that can be quantified by copycats?

― hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, August 30, 2010 10:02 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im trying to get ppl to look outside of the most obvious signs of influence, i.e. everyone imitating lil wayne by making their voice creak, into more abstract & less obvious things

Mystikal was definitely huge and gets respect, but i mean, if your one big example of someone who was directly influenced by him is a less famous labelmate, then i dunno man

― some dude, Monday, August 30, 2010 10:09 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

a 'less famous label mate' who happened to be a platinum-selling performer??

juvenile

deej, your whole "but they SOLD MORE RECORDS" as a dictum on canon-crashing doesn't really work, because it honestly creates some fiction world where Harvey Danger is more influential than Sebadoh

when talking about 'influence' i think u can say that 'popularity' is a RELATED force -- i never said 'popular = influential' but obviously they are going to have a relationship

is this the part where i mention that i honestly have no idea what makes sebadoah more 'influential' than harvey danger, who i have actually heard

smh

tbh i wouldn't mind living in a fiction world where harvey danger is more influential than sebadoh

not many people heard Harvey Danger, but everyone who did published zines and raged against machines

my rims so big i'm at the tiptop ain't i
choppers in the trunk'll make you do the macarena

yeah that's cool what's the name of the track?

― call all destroyer, Monday, August 30, 2010 8:40 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark

sorry i just saw this! it's callde "high five" -- idk why his joints aren't on youtube

i honestly would get the whole album -- the rapping is p mindblowing

y'all ride 24
i ride february

^ i been looking for that line for years

didnt realize this many ppl werent up on young dro!! that first album is a must buy

no one mentioned andre 3k itt smh

Pitbull was pretty influential paving the way for the current ubiquity of top-40 rap at dance music tempos, in 2004 "Culo" and "Toma" laid down a template that was widely heard and kicked off the first popular wave of uptempo rap since hip house. Will.i.am was working a similar vein but his tempos crept up after Pitbull's success and Flo Rida owes him pretty much his entire style (especially the use of triplets).

^^^this is a good one. kinda like where i was trynna go w/ mac dre, one of those sorta left field answers that the more you listen the more true it seems

young dro should be one too except that we've talked about him a lot in the past & noz is still a big fan too iirc so feels less surprising if u pay attention to our corner of the nerdverse

realized tonight that the dro album is a lot like gucci's post-BTTT raps where there's a bunch of hyper-specific things that pop up throughout songs (i.e. "lean on me" for dro)