finest pazz and jop winner of the 00s only

because i got high

Franz Ferdinand winning this in 2004 reads like the last gasp of print magazine critics actually attempting to run the discourse instead of just basing their entire coverage on Larry Fitzmaurice writeups

get ur freak onnnnnnnnnnn

also, "get ur freak on" easy

yep

get ur freak onnnnnnnnnnn

― / (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also, "get ur freak on" easy

― dyao cruz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:43 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yep

― max skim (k3vin k.), Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:43 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

franz ferdinand, for first introducing the "angular" guitar sound into rock music

i guess determining the WORST would be harder considering what a fucking lolbarrassment "Franz Ferdinand" was from jump vs. the smdh cornball tourist trap of "Empire State Of Mind" luring in midwest weiners

yeah, it's probably "get ur freak on", but i love every song here, even the franz ferdinand, even "empire state of mind"

franz ferdinand, for first introducing the "angular" guitar sound into rock music

i know this ia a joke, but i can't tell what kind of joke

;-)

hey ya

that's what I voted for

...

(Ms. Jackson btw)

Agree that Missy is tops here, but I'm voting for "Work It," which won't top "Freak" but deserves at least a few votes.

Fantastic songs, all:

OutKast - Ms. Jackson (2000)
Missy Elliott - Get Ur Freak On (2001)
Missy Elliott - Work It (2002)

So-so:

OutKast - Hey Ya (2003)
Kanye West - Gold Digger (2005)
Gnarls Barkley - Crazy (2006)
M.I.A. - Paper Planes (2008)

Yaaaaawn:

Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out (2004)
Amy Winehouse - Rehab (2007)
Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (2009)

lol at "Hey Ya" being a "so so song" to ilxor

Why's that?

I mean it's enjoyable, but I wouldn't place it in an Outkast POX.

Maybe a '00s Fun Summer Songs POX?

I apparently didn't even look at the 2009 P&J results, because I had no idea "Empire State of Mind" won.

Love: "Get Ur Freak On," "Work It," "Hey Ya", "Gold Digger"

Neutral+: "Ms. Jackson," "Paper Planes"
Neutral-: "Empire State of Mind"

Bleah: "Take Me Out," "Crazy," "Rehab"

"Work It" is an easy vote for me.

i like 'freak' 'work it' 'rehab' 'hey ya' 'ms jackson' the most i guess

eff the rest

only song here that isn't at least an 8/10 classic jam is esom

"fuck you" by cee-lo

get ur freak on
ms jackson
work it
take me out
crazy

everything else is whatever whatever

i have no idea what's gonna win this year, don't think it's gonna be "fuck you" altho i agree that it's a top 10 lock

i'm really gonna pitch hard for critics to vote for actual fucking singles just so it's not like EVERY SINGLE AWESOME SONG ON THIS ALBUM BY "GIRLS" YAY again

yeah unless a song blows me the fuck away, i try to keep songs from my albums ballot of my singles list

i try to keep myself away from the pazz and jop list

also it might be a bit of a double standard of sorts but if a song is huge on the radio then i feel okay about incl it on my singles ballot along with an album -- putting an xx "single" as #1 & having their album on the list too just strikes me as lazy

but not the pazz and jop threads xp

what song is huge on radio without being a single anymore?

i mean a single

amazing songs that i'm fine with winning: get ur freak on, work it, gold digger, rehab
ok songs but smh @ these winning: ms jackson, paper planes
just smh: hey ya
anyone who voted for these needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror and then kill themselves or at least retire from any role in music criticism: take me out, crazy, empire state of mind

voting "work it", which i always marginally preferred to "get ur freak on" (and which i think has held up better, nearly a decade (gah) on)

I don't really care about any of these, maybe I'll vote Take Me Out just to annoy Lex and 50% of ILM.

i'm really gonna pitch hard for critics to vote for actual fucking singles just so it's not like EVERY SINGLE AWESOME SONG ON THIS ALBUM BY "GIRLS" YAY again

― dyao cruz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 1, 2010 2:00 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this happened?

i remember lex & xhuxk complaining abt the tendency in the 2009 poll

"Lazy indie voters turning a fun exercise into a dutiful one by listing random "singles" off albums they also voted for are the new version of lazy AOR voters who used to vote for perfunctory tracks off albums they also voted for. Only the genre and technology have changed, and the fact that the AOR squares—back before our newfangled, allegedly singles-oriented, iTunes-through-shitty-speakers era began—almost always got marginalized by radio-imbibing pop and dance and hip-hop fans."

xhuxk in the VV

xhuxk otm

honestly tho when the end results are "empire state of mind", etc. winning can u really complain abt that

it's not like pissed jeans album tracks are topping the list

yeah but specifically re: Girls i dont think that actually happened

no because rock critics defaulting to a jay-z single is about as lazy

lust for life was a single iirc??

wow, thank god you revived this week old thread to point out that whiney's obvious stand in band for 'indie band x' did not actually have every song on the album on the singles list

a public service really

well were you genuinely questioning if every single girls track made the list or are you just getting pretend mad (a week late) because you like that band xp

lol xp

can't believe I have to wait to January to see The National, Arcade Fire, and Best Coast finally receive the acclaim they deserve

i don't think i could predict half of the top 10 right now

Arcade Fire will be in there for sure

Decrepit Rascal

I was born in 1971 btw

― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, September 13, 2010 3:15 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so how's Who's Next holdin' up for ya, Phil?

ranked:

Missy Elliott - Get Ur Freak On (2001)
Missy Elliott - Work It (2002)
OutKast - Ms. Jackson (2000)
M.I.A. - Paper Planes (2008)
Amy Winehouse - Rehab (2007)
OutKast - Hey Ya (2003)
Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (2009)
Kanye West - Gold Digger (2005)
Gnarls Barkley - Crazy (2006)
Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out (2004)

Cee Lo Green - Fuck You (2010)

voted for Jay-Z, btw. twice.

it's all been done

woo hoo hoo

― markers, Monday, September 13, 2010 2:20 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark

<3

If Cee-Lo wins this year this 11 year span will look to the future like an era of Dungeon Family dominance.

so how's Who's Next holdin' up for ya, Phil?

I've never liked the Who.

and like every garage act has to inevitably share its name with gross-looking metal bands

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, September 13, 2010 2:49 AM (8 hours ago)

Decrepit Rascal

― banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, September 13, 2010 2:50 AM (8 hours ago)

Huge irl lol @ this!

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

solid

Top 5 are all great, bottom 5 I don't give a shit about

amy robbed ;_; no way is "rehab" worse than "hey ya" or "empire state of mind" or fucking franz ferdinand - that anyone liked them then was eyebrow-raising, that anyone STILL openly gives a shit is frankly shameful

i really raised an eye when people liked instantly likable song "hey ya"

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2889/emotcolbert.gif

i was referring to franz ferdinand

I forget if I voted or not, but the results come pretty close to matching up with my preferences. I would just move 'Empire State of Mind' to the penultimate shot, and shift 'Gold Digger' up to the slot right above 'Take Me Out.' In contrast to the 90s list, I more or less like every one of these songs, and flat out love half of them.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YORRRRRRRRRRK

five people, man

"new york state of mind" is a straight up indefensible vote in this poll

er, EMPIRE obv

"empire state of mind" is a straight up indefensmhble vote in this poll

I never got around to deciding which Missy song to vote for, fwiw.

^defensible

Not on the list, obv, but I'd rather listen to "Pass That Dutch" today.

I'd rather listen to "Pass The Dutchie." (But it's not on the list, either.)

kinda w/ lex that rehab got shafted

"rehab" is fucking awful, the same joss stone old navy r&b the uk's been peddling for years only that time it had a tmz hook to give a patina of interest. robert palmer had more soul, nevermind gladys knight.

i mean at least "empire state" had the creme de la creme jock jam tie in, you could maybe admire jay-z's acumen or something. plus it applied hip-hop's theory of enya to alicia keys - to be encouraged.

what the hell does that last sentence even mean?

hip-hop theory of enya = this (enya, alicia keys, dido, etc) works well if used sparingly. negative control in this case would be that fullblown "empire" alicia keys came out with.

that's completely wrong tho, given alicia keys' sizable amount of classic material in her own right. "empire state of mind" is a bad look for her as well as jay-z

and in what world is the position of a soul singer who habitually collaborates with rappers vis-à-vis hip-hop remotely comparable to two singers whose distance from hip-hop is the point of their presence?

it is not wrongo, boyo.

Don't blame me, I voted "Rehab".

I think I voted Work It, but it may have been Hey Ya. Neither one won, but that's a solid top 5.

"Work It" is soooo much more exciting than "Freak" (much as I adore both).

this thread is great, good saturday read.

And I was totally right about Yelawolf (#146) vs Salem (#76)

"call me maybe" will be easily the best winner of the new decade

that's the most pessimistic thing I've heard in a while

worth the revive to reread lex stating "alicia keys' sizable amount of classic material in her own right"

that's the most pessimistic thing I've heard in a while

― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:21 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark

call me maybe > fuck you > rolling in the deep

Dawg you think Carly Rae is going to outrank Gotye?

yes\ah

lol

yeah*

yassah

Ha just in time. I've been coming to grips with 1971 myself lately.

(Also: all fans of new rap are incqpable of inwardness fyi)

wow did i totally miss this thread the first time around

Dawg you think Carly Rae is going to outrank Gotye?

― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:13 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes\ah

― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:16 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good call.