100 Enraged, Hectoring Vocalists Seek Explosions Over Which to Deliver Apocalyptic Screeds

this is one of my favorite music approaches ever, even when the anger is questionable. gives me goosebumps and puts exciting wind in my hair. i am thinking about it at the moment due to the "common people" thread and also the recent death of the call's michael been. plus i have been revisiting uzi's sleep asylum, which kicks serious ass in the tirade dept. it is important not only that the screed capture a quality of vitriolic apoplexy (even if understated or implied), but the the music be enormously propulsive, thrusting the rigid finger of vengeance forward through the long dark night of ignorance and squares.

1. "common people" - pulp

2. "gimme shelter" - the rolling stones

3. "criminal child" - uzi

4. "the walls came down" - the call

5. "rock n roll individual" - patti smith (hyeah, i know)

6. "Popular" - Nada Surf

7. "our coastal hymn" - les savy fav

Eve Libertine needs a trophy for this IMO.

^ this, plus

8. "prayer to god" - shellac

never heard that nada surf song, and don't really like it but yes, exactly that

the hold steady do this a lot, right? i don't listen to them, so i don't know, but that's the impression i get.

Oh!

9. "The Past is a Grotesque Animal" - Of Montreal.

Def has the propulsion. To the point of causing extreme tension actually (it never resolves). And he gets ranty, but not initially.

10. "sick man" - scraping foetus off the wheel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJbyVMmNU0

youtubes are nice

11. "holiday in cambodia" - dead kennedys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2p9fDJsHNo

so fucking brilliant, btw

"...though i wouldn't really want to meet someone who was"

Its great innit?

Lets tear this shit apart! Lets tear our fucking bodies apart! Lets have some FUN!

yeah, is an amazing song. need to hear more of montreal, apparently.

12. "red right hand" - nick cave & the bad seeds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vU22ts-Qcw

nick's built himself quite a line in controlled fury. guess this one is kind of a cheat, cuz the music isn't falling-down-the-stairs headlong like i asked for, but the vocal get the vibe across nonetheless.

plus thanks to mod for moving this

13. "jesus' tod" - burzum

otoh, fuck burzum

14. "good luck" - basement jaxx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2RJDw1gluM

...and yeah, that version

15. "i against i" - bad brains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjITD9LnwRY

give it a minute

16. XTC - Complicated Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByPIV36Q7HM

like a rolling stone, or is that too obvious?

no, that's perfect! great song, too.

geez - i think most Birthday Party songs would fit here, as well as bunch of stuff by the Pop Group

and then you have Diamanda Galas ...

and Red Right Hand isn't as propulsive (talking about Bad Seeds songs) as The Witness Song

...and I'd say that either 'Stagger Lee' or 'Tupelo' were about as apocalyptically powerful in delivery and message as you could hope to hear.

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9. "The Past is a Grotesque Animal" - Of Montreal.

I still can't disassociate this from the pasta parody on some thread last year

yeah, considered posting "stagger lee" instead of "red right hand", but as played-out as it is, i still love RRH awful much. and make pop group suggestions, sarah! i know them, but not well, and while the hectoring is definitely there, i don't think of them as over-the-precipice propulsive in the way that scratches my particular itch. same with diamanda. amazing intensity, but where's the headless chauffeur?

18. "sinnerman" - nina simone

substituting other passions for "hectoring" rage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5tiuZU4JI

lol! missed the pasta parody...

19. tori amos - precious things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCWTEkcL1VQ

19. "double barrel prayer" - diamanda galas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZUtDJR73_c

yeah but shit yeah

some other wonderful ilxor posted a youtube of diamanda covering I Put a Spell on You - prob. on Diamanda thread -

or uh let's make that 20

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yeah, her i put a spell on you is fantastic, as is her version of johnny cash's 25 minutes to go. more static/funereal than propulsive though

there's a sense in which songs like "believe" and "i will survive" are the secret undercurrent of this thread...

Nirvana - Frances Farmer blah blah Revenge on Seattle

-- i prefer the Johnny Cash version - but the first song on that album - Iron Lady - is amazing

oh - and Siouxsie and the Banshees - The Lord's Prayer

okay, lex otm, that tori amos track is stunning. breathless intensity + relentless, hamering drive, so nice. maybe a bit too loaf/steinman "operatic" for my tastes, but gets the job done, no doubt.

in that spirit:

23. "total eclipse of the heart" - bonnie tyler

is that an apocalyptic screed though?

well, i dunno, but the intensity of the performance creates the sense that an apocalypse of some sort is being screeded at u face. good enough for me. equal opportunity employer here.

i mean if ur heart gets totally eclipsed, that's gotta at least feel like an apocalypse, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkayrMDWt0w

fucking great

"my little chickadee, carrion, carrion..."

lol at "screeded at u face"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWNXb6X_xGs

in at #21, retrospectively

^ rough mix

S: Swans - New Mind
D: Rollins Band - Liar

74. John Lennon - Gimme Some Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlzrNKN3rZI

crucifucks song is rad, but man it is hard to have doc dart in your ears

dude - Doc Dart is way more palatable than Joanna Newsom

^ point of contention

i love doc, but he's one of those people that i fully understand why others could find him intolerable....he makes jello biafra sound like billy holiday

i'm not a newsom fan, though. enjoyed the live show mostly in the sense that i didn't hate it, which was the expectation going in.

thing about that song you posted, UMS, is that it's exactly the sort of thing i'm digging for in this thread, so great. and i could see as how one might acquire a taste for dart's voice, in the process of enjoying the music. me though, i'm not there yet. avoided the band for decades due to difficulties with those tones.

and fwiw, roger waters' voice isn't any easier to take

aw you're totally missing out on the joys of Hinckley had a Vision!

[cuing up hinkley had a vision]

which is hilarious, awesome, completely insufferable, and still hilarious.

the ones with totally wtf lyrics are my favorites though - i think "behind the door" is the title of one of them - and then there's the one where he goes into hysterics about his piece of paper

sex pistols - holidays in the sun

So shall I be there!
So shall I be there when you meet your final end
Because this is not DISNEYLAND
This is not PUNK LAND
This is INDIAN LAND
This is INDIAN LAND!!
This is INDIAN LAND!!!!!

You must be wondering how I know all of these things..
Well, you know..
I'm God!

So listen up, okay?
My will be done!

and in the spirit of crucifucks, no decent youtubes of feederz "jesus entering from the rear" or "psychward" boo

that first feederz song you mention was on the Let Them Eat Jellybeans A/T comp, wasn't it?

yeah, there's a rerecorded version on their 1st lp, but it isn't as good

sister songs:

flipper - "ha ha ha"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCEv3mlpx1U

circle jerks - "beverly hills"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bFXM0OyhDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skyzWf-qIa0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAwdXRbyWM

The verses on these remind me of each other

79. "human cannonball" - butthole surfers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK8CNSciKp4&feature=related

80. "flying houses" - scratch acid

no tubes sad

confused by that last round of UMS & noodle vague suggestions. i mean, the crass track, fuck yeah, that's it exactly. and ghostface is an interesting parallel, but doesn't really go for hurtling fury. nor do the flipper & circle jerks tracks. those were offered as footnote partners to crucifucks & feederz, right?

I'm thinking something of Sepultura Roots but I'm not sure I understand the instructions.

metal has been studiously avoided, unfairly. a lot of it seems to fit, but then not quite. like motorhead's "sex and death" captures the vibe, but the vocal's a bit too controlled. and when metal vocalists go all unhinged and ranty, the music tends to get either complicated or sludgy. mentioned burzum's "jesus' tod" upthread, and that's the metal that seems closest to me. but i'm hardly an expert, so...

81. "1970" - the stooges

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVmV3KtrSc

thread becomes confusing when attempting to make for the likes of sinead of connor and janet jackson, but stooges get the basic gist across

...attempting to make room for the likes of...

yeah

the Sinead O'Connor song totally fits - wtf?

it fits, but is maybe confusing to someone who is trying to decide whether or not sepultura works - different vibe

having to load i up again right now to make sure, cuz i only heard it for the 1st time last night...

okay, so sinead o connor is half an outlier, cuz though it's certainly angry & apocalyptic (holy crap, that video!), it takes quite a while to build up to full-on propulsive, and even when it gets there it splits the difference between stately and barreling.

but the thing with a lot of the metal and industrial examples, is that they kinda stay at the same level of intensity/propulsion throughout

that's true, but that was part of what i was thinking of initially. songs that set up this racing (but at the same time often oddly static) drive, and then just hammer away at it until the conclusion, with the vocalist both as mad coachman whipping the horses to a frenzy and helplessly screaming passenger strapped to the back. nina simone's sinnerman seems closer to this ideal than than sinead's troy, though troy does build to a satisfyingly furious crescendo and delivers such a fierce emotional blast throughout that it seems churlish to deny it.

quit hectoring me with all your rules!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ7p48IG2xA

http://www.troy-movie.stasi.co.uk/troy-movie-film/troy/eric-bana-hector-troy-movie.jpg

I think "Winter Warz" fits because it builds to that epic, grandstanding Cappadonna verse where by the time you get to "The truth in the song be the pro-Black teaching" it's almost breathless. The intensity is all in the delivery, really, of course musically it doesn't really accelerate. And of all the Crass songs I coulda picked I hear something in the rhythm of the words on "White Punks" that's very reminiscent of the verses on the Ghostface track. One after the other, the echo (unintentional sure) is there.

yeah, i hear what you're saying about the cappa verse, and even how it echoes steve ignorant's delivery (strange but true)

but holy shit that z-ro track

eminem has a few that maybe would qualify

yeah "common people" makes me think of a track building to a point where the vocalist is in passionate unhinged hysteria - hip hop tho tends to build and release musically in loops of 1,2,4,8 or 16 bars (with some common change-ups like maybe hooks or dropping drums out etc)

so with "look what you did to me" it's almost all with the vocals, starting with rapidfire double-tracked double-time releasing into singing which itself builds to a higher register (the "way i move my hands in ways not known to man" part), then the second verse starts with the drums dropped out but the doubled track is now in a higher register so u get a few hundred volts shot thru it even before the drums come back in. then greater & greater urgency until both vocal tracks themselves pitch up, and z-ro throwing some emphasized tupac cadences (the drankalottaBEEEERS shedalottaTEEARS stuff); it's all p insane.

sorry that was a bit lj on talk talk

not at all, otm, plus the song's great and i'd never heard it

re em: yeah, "lose yourself" for obv

82 (I think).

Enraged? Hectoring? Vitriolic apoplexy? Screed? And no one's mentioned John Lydon? Have you taken leave of your senses?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk9yqufMeIM

sex pistols - holidays in the sun

― goole, Wednesday, September 8, 2010 9:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

that z-ro track is incredible.

83. no lay - unorthodox daughter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Pp3V0N0hk

84. the bug ft. tippa irie - angry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVbhOZjSuic

85. ruff sqwad - r u double f

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3C5NMEek-E

86. ruff sqwad - future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yswxuyy6-aU

87. newham generals ft. dizzee rascal - pepper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRcN8goFIrg

88. three 6 mafia - testin' my gangsta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRwSVTx61tc

also duhhh the original version of tori amos's "professional widow"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8NGWHZHZao

BONUS - live version where she's at her most diamanda. it's quiet and creepy and then the last minute and a half is just terrifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p6fwS-iB50

Enraged? Hectoring? Vitriolic apoplexy? Screed? And no one's mentioned John Lydon? Have you taken leave of your senses?

No sign of Magma? Christian doesn't like that:

http://v1.progblog.de/uploads/vander-1970.jpg

can it be a screed if no one can understand what you're saying because it's in a made-up language?

It's certainly apocalyptic... well, so he tells us anyway