The complete, unabridged list of nu-metal that Whiney G. Weingarten fucks with, in case anyone cares

Close race btwn. White Pony and "Alive" from where I'm sitting, both are really great.

Korn - Korn. really juvenile now, but their best moment.

^lovin this guy this week

where is "i don't care" in poll options?

Mezmerize and SOAD's s/t >>>>>> Toxicity and Hypnotize imo

if i had to pick a fave of my faves, it's going to White Pony followed v. closely by first Korn

nah, some dude. Mezmerize and S/tS OAD are full of their bug-eyed gonzo-Zappa ish, which bands like Bungle do so, so, so much better. Toxicity and Hypnotize are full of soaring goon-rock classics

also, bonus love for Sepultura's nu-metal record Roots

yeah see i hate "Aerials" and most of their midtempo/ballady stuff (aside from Hypnotize's title track, which is great), and i've never really listened to Bungle, i just like their spazzy shit best.

where is "i don't care" in poll options?

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:32 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

would obviously be
http://www.big-t-shirts.com/ProdImages/big/792.jpg
i mean, come on

or nate dogg

Three Days Grace's "I Don't Care" is indeed a nu-metal jam but I don't know if Whiney is into it

http://www.nataliedee.com/111908/whatever-dude-whatever.jpg

First Korn was okay. Some of it was plain embarassing - what's up with their allusions to child abuse(?). Anyway, I used to like it but preferred Life Is Peachy. Both are unlistenable now. SOAD were always kinda okay in my book.

what's up with their allusions to child abuse(?)

uh, jon davis was molested as a child iirc

But Whiney was there / he was there in 1982 / he was there at the first Jon Davis molestation / but he's losing his edge

white pony is a stone classic

But Whiney was there / he was there in 1982 / he was there at the first Jon Davis molestation / but he's losing his edge

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:17 PM (22 minutes ago)

you are an idiot

Also known as "really bored at work" amirite?

it was always a creepy moment hearing the bridge of the song with Jon roaring "I didn't touuuuuuuuuuch you theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere"

Can someone pls do a mash-up of Korn ft. Mariah Carey - "Don't Touch My Body"??

of this list, White Pony easy

Toxicity is one of the best albums of the decade; I don't understand why people don't get that. It's a tough call between that and My Own Summer though...

Whiney actually has really good taste in nu-metal, actually.

Just voted White Pony, I pulled it out for a spin the other night and it's still a GREAT album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yGfUdcY1ws

I wanted to vote for Slipknot's Iowa, since I have love for those dudes & dig that album. Bu Toxicity is just plain better.

But Toxicity is just plain better.

It's apples and oranges, though, isn't it? Both bands were aiming for different things with their respective efforts, so I can't really rate one above the over, even subjectively.

― underrated slipknot albums I have loved

for me it'd be a blank sheet of paper

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8irsp3QokgA/SJjuNPYn4eI/AAAAAAAABR0/pPACvv7-3DI/s320/whiteponydb7%5B1%5D.jpg
and toxicity after that

Ranked, vaguely:

Deftones - White Pony
P.O.D. - "Alive"
Deftones - "My Own Summer (Shove It)"
System Of A Down - Toxicity
Slipknot - Iowa
Deftones - "Teething"
Linkin Park - A Thousand Suns
Deftones - "Rocket Skates" 7"
System Of A Down - Hypnotize
Korn - Korn
Mudvayne - "Dig"

aerosmith is totally OTM; Deftones is a better band (though not by much) but Toxicity is easily one of the best albums of the decade. Not only does it contain two of the hands-down best radio-rock singles of the last ten years--"Chop Suey" & "Aerials" (I'm a little more ambivalent abt the title track)--but a good portion of the album is jjust as good as those two songs: check out "Forest" & "Atwa", but also "Needles", "Shimmy", the way "Deer Dance" slams into "Jet Pilot", etc. I could go on; it's a fantastic record, an instant classic.

i saw some flyers on the subway the other day advertising for a Sevendust show

i don't remember "Alive" but i'll youtube it tonight and probably recognize it instantly

voted white pony. i loved "change (in the house of flies)" in high school, feels weird to hear it again.

Love the way SOAD put so many twists and turns into 2-4 minute songs without ever making them feel crowded or forced.

I remember my brother worked in a record store when White Pony came out and one of his co-workers wrote "RIDE THE PONY" on the poster for the album and we all always cracked up at that. Deftones are always the default nu metal band it's OK to like but to me really they're kinda boring, they're for people who think whale songs are amazing and love Sigur Ros and think Loveless is the pinnacle of rock music.

you take that back re: Sigur Ros

and maybe whale song

tool aren't nu-metal at all are they? despite getting most of their radioplay alongside these acts?

I think they're too proggy to be described as such.

And too dour.

^I was going to bring this up xpost.

Deftones' first three albums are all pretty damn good, but all are flawed, and none are as good, top to bottom, none have the underlying sense of purpose, that Toxicity has.

― snitch revvy-rev (Drugs A. Money)

????

1. Toxicity
2. White Pony
3. I don't really like metal

love Sigur Ros and think Loveless is the pinnacle of rock music.

These can be mutually exclusive, y'know.

I don't really like metal

― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey),

Most people who like metal probably hate nu-metal fwiw

anyone who "likes metal" but can't enjoy a little nu-metal (ie, like a small list appx the size of mine) is a childish person whose opinion can't be trusted, tbh

this is why i avoid liking metal altogether

That's probably for a thread of it's own but thats why so many say soad and deftones aren't nu-metal, because they like them but dont wanna admit theyre nu metal.

but scott fits that description!

I always wondered why you posted on every metal thread apart from rolling metal.

I just remembered the Kottonmouth Kings were a band that existed... They were all about snakes and weed.
So were all of their fans, at least all the ones I've ever met... Loved pot, loved snakes. They have tattoos of snakes smoking weed or popping out of weed plants and stuff.

no, i just do this thing where i talk to people i know.

xp

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, October 3, 2010 12:21 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to little kids?

The rolling metal thread scares everyone who hasn't been posting there from the start and no matter how nice they are to newcomers its still really cliquey.

theyre not little kids now, see in scotland, we do this strange thing where we talk to neighbours, little brothers of people we know, that kind of thing.

Herman has found that nu-metal no longer brings the (young) boys to the yard...

hilarious..

I just remembered the Kottonmouth Kings were a band that existed... They were all about snakes and weed.
So were all of their fans, at least all the ones I've ever met... Loved pot, loved snakes. They have tattoos of snakes smoking weed or popping out of weed plants and stuff.

dont recall that band at all. I guess they file alongside Sublime and those bands who didn't cross the ocean

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

eh

I still don't get System Of A Down and I don't think I ever will

I get em, just not the excessive love for THAT album.

Timing, isn't it? It was number one on 9/11 and was Spin's album of the year. It's the one which reached a lot of people who generally avoided nu-metal.

I get the massive love at the time, just not in retrospect. At the time the hype machine was huge off of Chop Suey, I remember driving 25-30 miles so I could get it at midnight the day it came out. I still like it but it doesn't feel like an "album of the decade" compared to some of their other albums.

In "best of the decade" terms I feel like nu-metal was repped by SOAD and SOAD was repped by Toxicity - it's what it signifies, not whether it's song for song better than their other records.

that description reads more like a "most important album" label than "best" to me.

Well good luck separating those two. But personally I think if the best of Mesmerize and Hypnotize had been one album I'd have voted for that instead.

I always wondered why you posted on every metal thread apart from rolling metal.

Also I'm not au fait enough with new stuff.

Well good luck separating those two. But personally I think if the best of Mesmerize and Hypnotize had been one album I'd have voted for that instead.

― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Sunday, October 3, 2010 7:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is on the money.

Paged through an old journal of mine tonight and, yes, I totally thought this song was the shit in 2002:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bjs12Xz3O0

*embarrassed*

I was working in a record store when White Pony came out, and I remember relishing the moment when I convinced a kid to buy it instead of the Limp Bizkit album he had wanted.

don't give much of a fuck about any of these albums/songs outside of the Deftones entries. voted My Own Summer, because that kind of really does encapsulate at least 1, maybe 2 very awkward pubescent teenage summers of mine.

I'm disappointed in Meteora. My guess is I've listened to it about five or six times through since I got it Tuesday.

I've had Hybrid Theory since release day, and I really enjoyed the vocal interplay between Mike and Chester on that album. For example, the way they switched off so seamlessly, even singing parts of the same verse. Listen to a song like By Myself and you'll see what I mean.

Now listen to Meteora. There's a lot less interplay between Mike and Chester here. Most often, it's Mike rapping out the whole verse and Chester belting out the chorus in fine form. It just seems a lot more formulated and tweaked for radio. The worst songs on the CD are ones like Don't Stay and Breaking The Habit, where Chester justs sings the whole damn thing; it's just not interesting to me. I can see songs like Easier To Run blowing up at radio, but it's really nothing new for the guys, just a tried-and-true formula. It certainly sells them records, however; maybe that's really important to them.

On a different note, I think musically Linkin Park is in fine form on Meteora. The guitar parts are very nice as before, the drumming has tightened up, and their experimentation with strings is a nice step for them.

As I can remember, my favorite songs thus far would be Lying From You, Figure.09, and Numb.

Gonna add the new Korn album to this list

is the industrial dude inside of you accessed by the skrillex collabs

I was working in a record store when White Pony came out, and I remember relishing the moment when I convinced a kid to buy it instead of the Limp Bizkit album he had wanted.

― funky house skeptic (polyphonic), miércoles 6 de octubre de 2010 1:13 (1 year ago) Bookmark

score!

how did deftones become the respectable nu metal band it was ok to like. they're boring, and suck balls. theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park

First Korn album is the best example I know of a record that's massively influential, original and godawful at the same time. My best friend, who skews hipster in listening habits and elsewhere far more than I ever have, still has a soft spot for it, probably because he bought it when he was 12. I hated it from first listen, and I don't even totally loathe Korn's later radio hits. I mean, they got better.

for me, the nu-metal album of the year is probably dir en grey's dum spiro spero, but it's nu-metal necessarily fed through prog, power metal and a little grindcore.

theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park
theyre not a patch on the 'zkit or the 'park

Linkin Park isn't even nu-metal

(tho you could really argue the same thing re: Deftones)

Also XP - Deftones became respectable because they're kind of arty - still don't have quite the same critical cachet that SOAD did after "Toxicity". I've never been able to tolerate those gonzo vocals for very long, so I prefer the Deftones even tho Chino Moreno's stalker schtick gets on my nerves. That's it for nu-metal, although I will say that Limp Bizkit has aged poorly but in a rather entertaining way.

Limp Bizkit's biggest hits are terrible, except maybe "My Way" if I'm drunk

I like it more when they do horribly misconceived things like covering "Behind Blue Eyes"

C'mon, "Nookie" was pretty catchy.

gonna rep for "re-arranged" as an actually good song

That's their "Eyes Without a Face"

ONE MORE THING ABOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP
AND I WILL STRAIGHT UP LEAVE YOUR SHIT

Disappointed the greatest hits comp wasn't named Limp Bestkit

There's at least two songs on the first Korn album I will wholeheartedly rep for: "Blind" and "Clown"

the first one has that godawful nursery rhyme song on it, right

that song is sweet

I listened to three dolla bill and a few korn albums growing up, can't remember a thing about them except they maybe wore chains?

looking at the tracklist for the first three albums only the 'got the life' chorus entered my head I have no idea how any of the other songs go

always liked this but then i first heard it when i was 12, don't trust the dude i was when i was 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=938oWfsIyIc

"got the life" has a huge chorus

re: deftones, most popular nu-metal band among nu-metal haters

I used to love "Chutes and Ladders" (ie the godawful nursery rhyme song) but I don't really feel like it has aged all that well, though both that and "ADIDAS" have aged waaay better than any of the big singles off the next 2 albums, at least to these ears...

brr brr ting
brr brr ting
brr brr ting
brr brr ting

DIG
BURY ME
UNDERNEATH
EVERYTHING THAT I AM
REARRANGING