POV jazz titans

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thread because I have been spending early autumn listening to Monk & Ellington a lot

mine would be Coltrane, Ellington, Monk, and it's right after three where this gets hard because you start doing the math on who you're gonna have to leave out to get the next two in but I gotta go Billie & then Bill Evans, and whether Evans counts as a "titan" is a tough call imo but I love me some west coast jazz & piano is where my heart lies and Evans's voicings & technique is just impeccable to my ear

if Evans is excluded from titan status then f.u. but I will sub Mingus in that case

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

wow.

off the cuff...

monk, miles, ella, ornette, satchmo

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

reluctantly ... Armstrong, Ellington, Davis, Monk, Coltrane

but the question is making me feel how urgent and key non-titans are to jazz

Brad C., Monday, 11 October 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)

right? I mean the way I thought of this was I was listening to some Monk and I was like "gotta be all-time top five, what a badass" and then I thought "ok, well who else" and the sort of "wait but what about" rushing-in of names & faces that goes on as your 5 list gets fuller...kinda cool to think about

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

this is hard. maybe miles d., coltrane, ellington, mingus, evans.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

billie holiday - voice
miles davis - trumpet
john coltrane - tenor/soprano sax
ornette coleman - alto sax
cecil taylor - piano

and, to round out my group:

charles mingus - bass
elvin jones - drums

Ward Fowler, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

coltrane, coltrane, coltrane, coltrane and coltrane

sawan, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Coltrane, Ellington, Monk, Miles, Armstrong
totally canonical (boring?) but each of those guys are gifts that keep on giving.

tylerw, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

tho Ellington towers over all of 'em imo

tylerw, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31r0DMBKuIL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
listening to this random comp right now -- a collection of covers/collabs. it's even got steel dan on it.

tylerw, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

steely dan that is.

tylerw, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

Armstrong
Monk
Ornette
Miles
having trouble choosing my fifth - can Philly Joe Jones count?
if not, then Duke

KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Monday, 11 October 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)

Off the top of my head:

Alice Coltrane
Duke Ellington
Herbie Hancock
Sonny Rollins
Sarah Vaughan

(I'm not sure if Alice counts as a "titan", but she's been pretty much my favourite jazz artist for the last few years, so I couldn't leave her out.)

Tuomas, Monday, 11 October 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Monday, 11 October 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

Miles
Sun Ra
Mingus
Sanders
Hancock

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 October 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

which coltrane are you all referring to? I'd put both Alice & John in my POV

Z S, Monday, 11 October 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus

lol

Brad C., Monday, 11 October 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

Coltrane, Ellington, Monk, Miles, Armstrong
totally canonical (boring?) but each of those guys are gifts that keep on giving.

Swap Coltrane for Billie Holiday and that's my list. I respect Coltrane's contribution to jazz but rarely want to listen to his music.

Taller than the president (Dan Peterson), Monday, 11 October 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

Miles Davis
John Coltrane
Nina Simone
Pharoah Sanders
Herbie Hancock

Can't live without any of them. Maybe if we could choose ten, things would get a little more interesting. For instance, my next five would be:

Archie Shepp
Ella Fitzgerald
Donald Byrd
Freddie Hubbard
Eddie Henderson (Titan status questionable but I love the dude)

matt2, Monday, 11 October 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Nat King Cole
Miles
John Coltrane
Ella Fitzgerald
Wayne Shorter

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 11 October 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

man ella is getting way shafted here. maybe vocalists should be in a separate category. she's, like, one of the most important singers in the history of recorded music.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

(ok, wrote that before i noticed the two most recent posts.)

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

nat king cole totally shafted itt imo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 11 October 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

maybe. the trio stuff is pretty unbeatable.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

duke
bird
monk
miles
trane

apologies to satchmo ornette & art blakey

modest marky (m coleman), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

duke
monk
miles
mingus
django

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 10:18 (fifteen years ago)

three obvious ones:
trane
mingus
miles
and then it gets trickier. hancock, ornette, maybe sanders are all possibilities. i've never really tried duke...

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 10:23 (fifteen years ago)

is m coleman the first person to pick charlie parker? blimey

wld love to hear from the ppl who are picking herbie what they think of the last thirty years of his career

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 10:43 (fifteen years ago)

try duke. really. Never No Lament box a good place to start.

Neil Kulkarni, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

wld love to hear from the ppl who are picking herbie what they think of the last thirty years of his career

He's made some good albums (Future Shock, Perfect Machine, Dis Is Da Drum, Future 2 Future), but most of them aren't strictly jazz. Mr. Hands from 1980 is probably his last great jazz LP, though New Standard and the Joni Mitchell album have their moments too.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)


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