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so, c or d, s and d and all that...

jel --, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Jel, I never learned to play guitar. Those chords are weird.

nath, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: pretty much everything by Royal Trux, Gastr Del Sol (esp. 'Camofleur'), Jim O'Rourke, Palace Bros/Will Oldham/Bonnie Prince Billy, US Maple, The Fucking Champs, Ghost. Also gd: 'Tramps, Traitors and Little Devils' aka the Drag City 'supersession', the label comp 'Hey Drag City', 'Knock Knock' by Smog. Plus loads of gd albs have been reissued on Drag City offshoots Moikai ('Plux Quba' by Nuno Canavarro, the Ray Russell comp), Blue Chopsticks (Luc Ferarri), and Dexter's Cigar (Folke Raabe, Arnold Dreyblatt, my fave Loren Mazzacane Connor alb).

Destroy: Silver Jews, 'Dongs of Sevotion' by Smog, Neil Hamburger, most of their Red Krayola releases (apart from the wonderful title track on 'Corky's Debt to His Father'), the Stephen Prina alb.

Still the best 'alt rock' label in the world.

Andrew L, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

please don't destroy Silver Jews.

please search David Grubbs.

nickie, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

If you'd asked me in 1996, I would've said it was my favourite label, as it had Smog, Palace, Royal Trux, Ghost, Flying Saucer Attack, King Kong and variants thereof. Then 1997 happened, and all those artists put out albums that were pretty terrible (except Ghost and FSA. And the Trux CD was on Virgin), and I stopped caring. I'll give it a classic, if only for how I felt at 19.

Search:

Royal Trux (skulls)
Smog Forgotten Foundation
Pavement Westing...
V/A Hey Drag City
Smog Julius Caesar
Royal Trux Cats and Dogs
Palace Bros. There Is no-One...
Smog Burning Kingdom
Palace Bros. Days in the Wake
Palace Songs Hope
King Kong Me Hungry
Flying Saucer Attack Further
Cynthia Dall Untitled
Smog Kicking A Couple Around
Palace Arise Therefore
Smog The Doctor Came At Dawn
Neil Hamburger America's Funnyman
Ghost Lama Rabi Rabi
Flying Saucer Attack New Lands
Smog Dongs of Sevotion
Flying Saucer Attack Mirror
Masaki Batoh Kikaokubeshi (although this was never really a DC release)
Edith Frost S/T
King Kong Movie Star 7" (A DC reissue)
Palace Gulf Shores 7"
Royal Trux Thank You (vinyl version)
Shellac The Bird...
The Sundowners The Girl With the Thing in Her Hair

Vic Funk, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew that was going to happen....

Vic Funk, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, i never realized how tedious this label is until i saw those lists. duuuud, if only for the fucking champs and all later royal trux...

Dave M., Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think there is a 'title track' on Corky's Debt, is there? First track on mine is 'The Lesson', but this is the (UK) Glass reissue, not the Drag City one. And Search it all, all of Corky's Debt, especially 'Horses', 'Oyster Thins', 'Fortune' and 'Black Legs'

Ellie, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, i never realized how tedious this label is until i saw those lists.

agreed! outside of the palace stuff (and maybe if i was in a more charitable mood flying saucer attack), urgh. if i can say nothing else for drag city, they've disguised their essential tedium from me for quite a long time.

jess, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(also, o'rourke's bad timing, i guess. and the last gastr del sol album, although i haven't listened to it in a long time.)

jess, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott Walker's Tilt is on Drag City. That makes up for a lot of lame indie-ness.

dleone, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

sweet merciful crap, i forgot tilt! so, yes, that too.

jess, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the idea that millions of indie kids laid down their money for Silver Jews records so that America was given the opportunity to hear Scott sing "Do I hear twenty one..."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

INDIE GUILT PART TWO

Ned wrote:
I like the idea that millions of indie kids laid down their money for Silver Jews records

you say some silly things, but this one is maybe the silliest! I just got into American Water after playing a few times with a guy who played on that record... it's a nicely recorded album with some great songs. Highly recommended for people who think the Silver Jews sold millions of records.

Drag City roster as a continuation of the weirdo Americana elements documented in Harry Smith's anthologies? That new Plush album that Drag City passed on is very Drag City 2002... better than the latest Jim O'Rourke album they did not pass on.

gygax!, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Hyperbole as joke, m'friend. Though for a while there it seemed like I was drowning in a consensus of nodded heads over them, which made me tired.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, i think the pavement connection alone was enough to move some units for the jews, and pavement could do no wrong in popular (and unpopular opinion) circa 90-94. I dismissed them too as too jokey/inside but like I said, I only turned on to the American Water record as of a couple months ago lately and was pleasantly surprised.

i think the album is MUCH better than pavement's album of the same year (the DULL Brighten The Corners), I think people who find Malkmus' playing interesting and are curious his ability as a sideman would enjoy this. He was really ON during the recording of this album, very smooth/fluid playing/arrangements...

gygax!, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I listened to "Bright Flight" today it was nice. And, I do quite like "Hope" by Palace Songs.

jel --, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Big points for re-releasing the absolutely fantastic _Kangaroo?_ by the Red Crayola w/ Art & Language. I'm also very fond of Gastr del Sol's _Camofleur_ and Stereolab's _Refried Ectoplasm_ (and _Aluminum Tunes_).

Ernest, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

destroy or at least sell for dope money : palace, smog, scott walker

keep : some ghost albums esp. "lama rabi rabi", the royal trux singles box

"cover by hipgnosis", ha ha it was funny 'cause it was true.

unknown/illegal, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax - The Silver Jews' American Water came out over a year after Brighten The Corners, and only a few months off from Terror Twilight. Did you mean to slag Terror Twilight, and just had the name wrong?

Yuriko, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I still think that from the beginnig Drag City has been a pretty good label overall.

Search : Flying Saucer Attack, Smog, Palace, Silver Jews, Royal Trux,Scott Walker, Silver Jews,Ghost, Red Crayola reissues, Edith Frost

Destroy: New Red Crayola, Suntanama, Wierd War,Champs

There's much more music on this label than many others that I don't mind hearing once in a while but I wouldn't buy/ copy it

brg30, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

oh is the Suntanama record out? so does it really suck?

unknown or illegal user, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the suntama record sucks and how -- unless you like Phish.

jack cole, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"destroy or at least sell for dope money : palace, smog, scott walker" ... who's responsible for this malicious parody of my friend?

maryann, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the suntama record sucks and how -- unless you like Phish.


ha ha cool, i'ma tell john beard rock allen you said that. dude that dude used to be into nuthin but free jazz & obscure psych when i 1st went over there....3 or 4 years later he's all about The fuckin Band & all these whiney ass '70s singer songwriters..."progression" (let's hear it for).

unknown or illegal user, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

... who's responsible for this malicious parody of my friend?

yeah well spotted, anyone who knows me knows i never owned any records by smog or palace or scott walker in the 1st place.

unknown/illegal, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Whole lable's shite output (and there's a bit)is balanced out by vocokesh and trux. there's a great Alastair galbraith song on Hey drag City. Is it true that the cover for this comp was once destined for Pink Floyd? It would explain a lot about the label.

Andrew, Saturday, 17 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

oh are there vocokesh albums on DC? thats another pt. in fav. then, they are great. yeah that cover is a real hipgnosis design (maybe re- created tho?), that was the rejected "concept" for some pink floyd album or other.

unknown or illegal user, Saturday, 17 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

hipgnosis sux btw (just in case you thought i'm a real fan there)

unknown or illegal user, Saturday, 17 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

true king of "trippy" '70s album art : BARNEY BUBBLES!!!

fuck hipgnosis & roger dean yeah!

unknown or illegal user, Saturday, 17 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Edith Frost's "Calling Over Time" is one of the best singer-songwriter records I've heard. Lovely. And I don't think Smog have put a foot wrong, excepting his very early work.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 18 August 2002 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i forgot papa m's live from a shark cage too.

Jess Harvell (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 August 2002 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

also, westing... which i had sort of written off until i found my old copy yesterday.

Jess Harvell (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 August 2002 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

hoorah to drag city for getting my pre-ordered vinyl copy of the excellent new bill callahan album to me a week before the scheduled release date

boo to drag city for not providing digital downloads with vinyl purchases. i don't understand why labels wouldn't do this as standard these days

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 11:29 (sixteen years ago)

you make me wish i'd pre-ordered. i'm seeing him in a week or two in a record store and thought about buying it to get signed. i don't do that or anything, just, how else will i have stories for my grandchildren involving someone so laconic?

lp is slow burningly lovely anyway. i think all thoughts are prey to some beast is good enough to sit in the distance/the well/truth serum spot each record seems to have.

corps of discovery (schlump), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 13:30 (sixteen years ago)

oh they also sent me a nice poster promoting the album, though i don't really know what to do with it

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 13:31 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

i think they do supply digital copies for those purchasing vinyl in some cases. i believe they call it "ultraload" or something.

i decided a minute ago that i like drag city, not just because of all the music but because they actually have a mystique.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 03:54 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know if they still do it, but they used to have really neat alternate artwork on their promo cd's. I contemplated collecting it at one point...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 04:10 (fifteen years ago)

There was an early comp they (or maybe Ajax?) was going to put out called "Hey Dan K." which after a quick googling shows had Cannanes and M0unt@1n G0@ts songs on it.

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 04:19 (fifteen years ago)

Like the random ESP Summer biography that appears below it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 04:32 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know if they still do it, but they used to have really neat alternate artwork on their promo cd's.

The posters too -- Smog's Knock Knock:

http://i9.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/3c/89/1242_12.JPG

city worker, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 04:34 (fifteen years ago)

ha, never seen that before but that's Dan Osborn of DC in the Dr's uni

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 04:53 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

boo to drag city for not providing digital downloads with vinyl purchases. i don't understand why labels wouldn't do this as standard these days

They still don't do this, which seems insane to me. Is it some kind of principle thing with them?

She Got the Shakes, Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, it does seem kind of stubborn. i'd be more likely to buy a record w/ mp3 downloads.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

i don't thnik it's principle since they sell mp3s.
love going over to the drag city site to see what they're up to: right now a portuguese guitar player and pete shelley electronic records. such a cool label.

mizzell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

and a new collection of alan lomax scottish field recordings!

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

the carlos parreda thing is pretty great, wasn't familiar w/ that dude before.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

aren't those scottish recordings kinda 'lomax-esque'? i thought they were new, collected by ali roberts, sorta following in the footsteps. may be wrong

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

nah, they're actually Lomax recordings, complied by Alasdair Roberts, I believe.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

I don't see Newsome or Callahan but jamming some Silver Jews now - yesssssss!!

The game may be rigged and all streaming services should be overthrown but until we get there I'm happy that these great artists will have a better chance at exposure and that I can easily put friends onto their music

niels, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:41 (seven years ago)

smog/callahan

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:50 (seven years ago)

aw man, so good - thanks!

niels, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:52 (seven years ago)

Listening to Papa M's Live from a Shark Cage right now -- yay!

jaymc, Monday, 2 April 2018 04:54 (seven years ago)

So this is what those cryptic, passive-aggressive Instagram posts were about...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 2 April 2018 05:02 (seven years ago)

weird. I can see the page for smog/callahan from the links above but it doesn't show up in searches. can't see silver jews, papa M, etc

||||||||, Monday, 2 April 2018 10:14 (seven years ago)

https://open.spotify.com/artist/4ePunOqQbOYoQwd1298g3Z?si=7KMKvouVS0KP4KpR-but2g

seems the indexing isn't up to speed

niels, Monday, 2 April 2018 10:18 (seven years ago)

NP: The High Llamas - Talahomi Way

A mini modern masterpiece. :)

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 2 April 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)

Listening to Papa M's Live from a Shark Cage right now -- yay!

― jaymc, Sunday, April 1, 2018 11:54 PM (thirteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I actually got excited chills realizing this is available now. And I actually still have my CD of it, so I don't know why I don't just listen to it on CD, but I never listen to CDs.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 2 April 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)

Perhaps now is a good time for a renewed S/D for this label. I listened to tons of this stuff in the 90s (Palace, Gastr del Sol, Aerial/Papa M, and others from that period). In the last 15 years or so I've probably only listened to some of the bigger artists. As I scan through the artists on the label now, there's a bunch I don't know.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 2 April 2018 22:28 (seven years ago)

the whole chicago circuit is worth looking into- ryley walker/bill mackkay, bitchin bajas, circuit des yeux, they all kinda run in the same circles

global tetrahedron, Monday, 2 April 2018 22:30 (seven years ago)

Dope Body is sick

flappy bird, Monday, 2 April 2018 22:32 (seven years ago)

natural information society/ka and meg baird also

global tetrahedron, Monday, 2 April 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)

global otm -- it is very tight crew + natural info society is sooooooo goooooood
if alasdair roberts is in there, i recommend him a lot

imo it would be characteristically drag city to give this to spotify people for only a short period of time -- maybe 6 month contract -- and then not renew their contract.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 2 April 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)

definitely search the six organs / rangda / richard bishop universe

tylerw, Monday, 2 April 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)

oh yeah
dang i forgot about them
RANGDA

people are going to be like omg why did i not...oh yeah

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 2 April 2018 22:38 (seven years ago)

I am going to check the hell out of this Helena Espvall & Masaki Batoh album!

it was stale, and I did not like it, as the man said, &c (seandalai), Monday, 2 April 2018 23:31 (seven years ago)

^^ both of those are great

sleeve, Monday, 2 April 2018 23:54 (seven years ago)

Is Matt Sweeney + Bonnie Prince Billy - Superwolf up? (not seeing it via search) That used to be a big favourite of mine.

it was stale, and I did not like it, as the man said, &c (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)

yeah that one might be my favorite oldham

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)

supposedly some of his palace (music) stuff is up but i couldn't find any

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 00:49 (seven years ago)

the palace bros 7"s are up which if you ever wanted to hear what "Trudy Dies" would sound like with mellotron and a left-field "out" guitar solo, well... here's your chance!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 02:50 (seven years ago)

The very first Palace Brothers album is there, but that's the only full-length.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 04:00 (seven years ago)

the palace bros 7"s are up which if you ever wanted to hear what "Trudy Dies" would sound like with mellotron and a left-field "out" guitar solo, well... here's your chance!

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, April 2, 2018 10:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the original vers tbf, think that was the first thing i ever bought by them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 04:24 (seven years ago)

They got in right before the IPO!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 04:25 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

So, uh, I'm guessing these guys are about to give up on the CD format completely. It's been tapering as an option on their releases for the past couple years, but now it seems like a CD release is the exception rather than the rule. The New Bums album is vinyl only and the just announced Peacers album is vinyl and cassette only. Not surprised, I guess, just bummed. Weird that cassettes must be hitting higher sales numbers for them though.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:00 (four years ago)

yeah that’s a drag (hahah). Kinda surprised they’ve held out this long. I still think CDs might be cool again in 20 years or something if we still have an energy grid and stuff.

brimstead, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:26 (four years ago)

I mean, I think it depends on the genre and labels, really. Seems like a lot of jazz and prog stuff is still getting heavily released in the CD format and it still seems to be strong for the deluxe reissue world, but who knows. I don't think it'll ever go away completely, just become more of a niche thing. I mean, I know Numero Group gave up on them (which makes me extra sad knowing that Husker Du may now never see a decent, proper release on that format).

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:35 (four years ago)

It bums me out... don’t people listen to albums in the car (and want better sound than an streaming over Bluetooth)?

one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:39 (four years ago)

I do! I mean, I still buy CDs all the time. I have some vinyl, but it's expensive as shit for a lot of titles compared to CDs, a lot of labels stopped giving download codes, pressing issues, pressing delays meaning the vinyl can sometimes come months later, I spend a lot of time away from a record player, etc. I like vinyl, but CD is still the most functional for me.

I'm really curious about the economics regarding cassettes these days though, is there really that much of a market that labels would pick that over CD as lower quantity second physical media option?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:43 (four years ago)

And, lol, at the risk of this becoming my own personal physical format blog, I would be curious to know if it would ever be possible/economically feasible to expand that Bandcamp vinyl pressing on demand thing to CDs as well.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:48 (four years ago)

cassette sales doubled in 2020 fwiw:

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-55476419

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:48 (four years ago)

Amazing that Drag City avoided streaming for so long only to abandon CDs shortly after embracing streaming.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:49 (four years ago)

Thanks sleeve, wonder how the US figures compare. I know cassettes keep a pretty decent following for metal, experimental and noise bands, but it just seems so weird for cassettes to be where manufacturing dollars are spent at this point in time. But, I guess that's why I don't run a label.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:54 (four years ago)

Is there a corresponding jump in sales of tape-decks?

ringworm, Friday, 22 January 2021 05:40 (four years ago)

Amazing that Drag City avoided streaming for so long only to abandon CDs shortly after embracing streaming.

Haha. Yes! I have a huge number of Drag City CDs precisely because they were shunning streaming. It was an effective strategy. No more Drag City CDs would mean 100.00% streaming their new releases here. I'm not about to become an olde worlde analogue format fetishist.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 22 January 2021 06:13 (four years ago)

It bums me out... don’t people listen to albums in the car (and want better sound than an streaming over Bluetooth)?

― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

finding a new car these days with a CD player factory installed is turning non-existent. cars are turning to that point where you need a discman to hook into the AUX to get that satisfaction, a sorta pre-CD players in cars era.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 22 January 2021 06:48 (four years ago)

That’s interesting, it’s been standard in our last few leased vehicles (most recent is a 2019).

one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Friday, 22 January 2021 07:17 (four years ago)

my 2018 subaru doesn't have a cd player, i only even thought to look a couple weeks ago!

Clay, Friday, 22 January 2021 07:19 (four years ago)

It would skip like crazy careening over all those rugged trails and dry stream beds!

one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Friday, 22 January 2021 07:47 (four years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/fkwePBI.jpg

pplains, Friday, 22 January 2021 14:15 (four years ago)

Those sun visors were great... if you wanted to scratch the shit out of your CDs.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 January 2021 14:36 (four years ago)

one year passes...

What is God? Records about – curated by someone in particular? (I tried searching for info, but just found some similarly-named labels.)

“Lawman,” Slick (Grunt) (morrisp), Sunday, 17 July 2022 04:48 (two years ago)

Ty Segall I think?

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 17 July 2022 09:10 (two years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Segall#GOD?_Records

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 17 July 2022 09:11 (two years ago)

three months pass...

Don't seem to have a thread on them so I'll toss it in here, but the new Wand live album is fantastic. In a more just world, they'd have at least half of that rabid King Gizz fanbase.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 17:58 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Really can't wrap my head around which releases these guys decide to put on CD and which they don't.

Recent albums by Wand, Bill Callahan and Dirty Three did, but not for Papa M, Tashi Dorji and the upcoming Geologist record. I'm sure they have data on which "big" records make it worthwhile, but I find the inconsistency kind of annoying.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:43 (seven months ago)

maybe they leave it up to the artists?

sleeve, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:44 (seven months ago)

Possible too!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 November 2024 15:44 (seven months ago)

"maybe they leave it up to the artists?"

Correct answer.

bbq, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 07:14 (seven months ago)


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