VOTING THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll (ends OCT 25)

Rules:

You will be allowed up to 40 choices. You will have 800 points to split between your 40 choices, in any combination you see fit with the proviso that none score more than 50 points, so if you wish to give 16 tracks 50 points you can.

Alternatively if you wish to give an ordered list it will be marked #1=40 points...#40=1 point, any unordered lists will be given a default 20 points.

Deadline will be 23:59 BST on 21st October 2010

Send your votes to motelmoka(at)gmail.com with the title 'ILM SHOEGAZE VOTES' this will be the address you should use for any queries, correspondence, fan mail etc. If anyone wants to write a few lines (or more) on their favourite piece of shoegaze/dreampop/post.rock etc please do.

List of Nominees:

A.C. Marias - One Of Our Girls Has Gone Missing
Accelera Deck - I Believe It
Acid King - Sunshine and Sorrow
Adam Franklin and Bolts of Melody - Yesterday is Gone Forever
Adorable - sunshine smile
Afterglow - fall behind
Airiel - Firefly
Airiel - Thinktank
Airiel - peoria
Airiel - You Kids Should Know Better
Alcest - Printemps Emeraude
The Amps - Breaking the Split-Screen Barrier
Amusement Parks on Fire - Out of the Angeles
Area - Sincerly Charlotte
A.R. Kane - Lollita
A.R. Kane - A Love From Outer Space
A.R. Kane - So Far Away
A.R. Kane - Spermwhale Tripover
A.R. Kane - Suicide Kiss
A.R. Kane - Up
Arthur Russell - She's the Star/I Take This Time
Arthur Russell - Let's Go Swimming
Arthur Russell - Calling All Kids
Asobi seksu - thursday
Asobi Seksu - Strawberries
Asteroid No 4 - What A Sorry Way To Go
A Sunny Day in Glasgow - Our Change into Rain is No Change at All
Auburn lull - stockard drive
Auburn lull - axis nearshis name is alive - love's a fish eye
Auburn lull - a harbored distance
Autolux - Turnstile Blues
Bailter Space - Remain
Bailter Space - X
Bang Bang Machine - Geek Love
Bardo Pond - Tommy Gun Angel
Bark psychosis - absent friend
Bark psychosis - a street scene
Bark Psychosis - From What is Said to When it is Read
Bird Nest Roys - Jaffa Boy
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Whatever Happened To My Rock & Roll
Black Tambourine - Black Car
Bleach - Dipping
Blind Mr. Jones - Dolores
Blonde Redhead - 23
Blondie - Shayla
Blur - 1992
Blur - Battle
Blur - Down
Blur - Oily Water
Blur - Sing
Boards Of Canada - Dayvan Cowboy
Boards of Canada - Corsair
Boo Radleys - Butterfly Mcqueen
Boo Radleys - Does This Hurt?
Boo Radleys - Everybird
Boo Radleys - Fosters Van
Boo Radleys - If You Want It, Take It
Boo Radleys - I Hang Suspended
Boo Radleys - Kaleidoscope
Boo Radleys - Lazarus
Boo radleys - lazy day
Boo Radleys - Losing It (Song For Abigail)
Boo Radleys - The Finest Kiss
Boo Radleys - Spaniard
Boo radleys - smile fades fast
Boo Radleys - Swansong
Boo Radleys - Memory Babe
Boo Radleys - Naomi
Boo Radleys - Sometime Soon She Said
Boo Radleys - Upon 9th & Fairchild
Boris - Farewell
Bowery Electric - Freedom Fighter
Bowery Electric - Things'll Never Be The Same
Breathless - Over and Over
Breathless - Wave After Wave
Breathless - You Can Call It Yours
Breathless - All That Matters Now
Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets
Brian Jonestown Massacre - Evergreen
Brian Jonestown Massacre - That Girl Suicide
Brother Kite - never in years
Catherine Wheel - Black Metallic
Catherine Wheel - Crank
Catherine Wheel - For Dreaming
Catherine Wheel - Tumbledown
Catherine Wheel - She's My Friend (the original version)
Catherine wheel - ursa major space station
Chapterhouse - Autosleeper
Chapterhouse- Falling Down
Chapterhouse - Breather
Chapterhouse - Mesmerise
Chapterhouse - Pearl
Chapterhouse - something more
The Chameleons - View From A Hill
Candy Claws - sunbeam show
Charmparticles - gold plated shotl
The Church - Aura
The Clean - Point That Thing Somewhere Else
Clearlake - don't let the cold in
Clinic - Porno
Cloudboy - this long underwater
Cloudboy - red rubicon
Cloudland Canyon - White Woman
Cocteau Twins - Blue Bell Knoll
Cocteau Twins - Heaven Or Las Vegas
Cocteau Twins - Carolyn's Fingers
Cocteau Twins - Cherry Coloured Funk
Cocteau Twins - Lorelei
Cocteau Twins - the Thinner the Air
Cocteau Twins - Pink Orange Red
Cocteau Twins - Pearly Dewdrops Drop
Cocteau Twins - The Spangle Maker
Cocteau Twins - Those Eyes, That Mouth
Cocteau Twins - Summerhead
Cocteau Twins - Seekers Who Are Lovers
Cocteau Twins - Violaine
Cocteau Twins - Wax and Wane
Cowboy Junkies - Sweet Jane
Cranes - Adoration
Cranes - Beautiful Friend
Cranes - Breeze
Cranes - Everywhere
Cranes - Starblood
Cranes - Tomorrow's Tears
Crystal Castles - Celestica
The Cure - Plainsong
The Cure - End
Curve - 10 Little Girls
Curve - coast is clear
Curve - Faît Accompli
Curve - Horror Head
Curve - mission from god
Curve - Perish
Dadamah - High Tension House
Dalek - Forever Close My Eyes
Dalek - Abandoned Language
The Dandy Warhols - Be-In
The Dandy Warhols - Holding Me Up
The Dandy Warhols - Nietzsche
The Dandy Warhols - It's A Fast Driving Rave-Up With The Dandy Warhols Sixteen Minutes
Death in Vegas - Dirge
Death in Vegas - Girls
Deerhunter - Strange Lights
Deerhunter - Vox Celeste
Delays - Long Time Coming
Dettinger - Oasis 3
Devin Townsend (Ocean Machine) - Hide Nowhere
Disco Inferno - the Long Dance
Disco Inferno - Bleed Clean
Disco Inferno - Love Stepping Out
Disco Inferno - Secong Language
Disco Inferno - Summer's Last Sound
Disappears - Magics
DNTEL - This Is The Dream Of Evan and Chan
The Dream Academy - Life in a Northern Town
Drop Nineteens - Kick the Tragedy
Drop Nineteens - Winona
Dykehouse - One More Day
The Ecstasy of Saint Theresa – Swoony
The Ecstasy of Saint Theresa – Fluidum
Electric Firebabies - Thunderbolt
Electro Group - Line Of Sight
Engineers - Let's Just See
Engineers - What Pushed Us Together
Engineers - Hang Your Head
epic45 - england fallen over
f/I - Just to Get Us Off
Th' Faith Healers - Love Song
Th' Faith Healers - Sparklingly Chime
Th' Faith Healers - Heart Fog
Faust - C Pluus
Fennesz - Circassian
The Field Mice - Sensitive
The Field Mice - missing the moon
Fleeting Joys - The Breakup
Flying Saucer Attack - Feedback Song
Flying saucer attack - forever
Flying Saucer Attack - Beach Red Lullaby
Flying Saucer Attack - The Drowners
Flying Saucer Attack - Standing Stone
Flying Saucer Attack - My Dreaming Hill
For against - coalesced
Free - Mouthful Of Grass
Fridge - Long Singing
Galaxie 500 - Blue Thunder
Galaxie 500 - decomposing trees
Galaxie 500 - Listen, the Snow Is Falling
Galaxie 500 - Flowers
Galaxie 500 - Strange
Garbage - Supervixen
Gersey - The Night We Walked to Mexico
Ghost Society - Love Love
Ghost Society - Better Days
Glenn Branca - Lesson No.1
Gravenhurst - Hollow Men
Grouper - Heavy Water/I'd Rather Be Sleeping
Grouper - Cover the Windows and the Walls
Hex - Diviner
High Violets - X-Tasy
His Name is Alive - Lip
His Name is Alive - love's a fish eye
Hood - hood northern
House of Love - Christine
House of Love - Destroy the Heart
House Of Love - Love In A Car
Husker Du - Powerline
Inaura - This Month's Epic
Insides - distractions
Insides - darling effect
Into paradise - angelus
Inner sleeve - come alive
The Innocence Mission - Wonder Of Birds
Jesu - Tired of Me
Jesus and Mary Chain - Catchfire
Jesus and Mary Chain - Just Like Honey
Jesus and Mary Chain - Happy When It Rains
Jesus and Mary Chain - Heat
Jesus & Mary Chain - Never Understand
The Joy Formidable - The Last Drop
The Joy Formidable - Whirring
The Joy Formidable - Cradle
Jps experience - block
Julee Cruise - Falling
Jupiter - leave the ground
Jupiter - meltdown
Jupiter sun - violet intertwine
Kitchens Of Distinction - Drive That Fast
Kitchens Of Distinction - Elephantine
Kitchens of Distinction - Gone World Gone
Kitchens of Distinction - Mad as Snow
Kitchens of distinction - on tooting broadway station
klima - why does everything have to end
Labradford - WR
Ladytron - All The Way
Levitation - Arcs of Light and Dew
Levitation - Even When Your Eyes Are Open
Lilys - february fourteenth
Lilys - claire hates me
Lilys - Day of the Monkey
Lilys - ginger
Long Fin Killie - Kismet
Loop - Arc-Lite (Sonar)
Loop - Black Sun
Loop - Collision
Loop - Spinning
Look Blue Go Purple - Winged Rumor
Lorelei - Float My Bed
Lorelei - Stop What You're Doing
Lorelei - Mimesis
Love Battery - Between the Eyes
Low, Transient Waves & Piano Magic - Sleep at the Bottom
Luminous Orange - drop you vivid colours
Lush - De-Luxe
Lush - Desire Lines
Lush - kiss chase
Lush - Leaves Me Cold
Lush - Scarlet
Lush - For Love
Lush - Monochrome
Lush - Nothing Natural
Lush - Ocean
Lush - Sweetness And Light
Lush - Sunbathing
Lush - Thoughtforms
Lush - Untogether
Lusk - Free Mars
Lusk - Doctor
Lycia - Pray
M83 - Don't Save Us From The Flames
M83 - Teen Angst
M83 - Run Into Flowers
M83 - Lower Your Eyelids to Die With the Sun
Mahogany - Domino Ladder Beta
Mahogany - supervitesse
Malory - space in your mind
The Mandelbrot Set - lush
MARRS - Anitina
Mazzy Star - Happy
Mediavolo - Mass Anasthesia
Mediavolo - Misunderstanding
Medicine - Aruca
Medicine - Time Baby Three
Medicine - Never Click
Medicine - One More
Memory Cassette - Ghost In The Boombox
Memory Cassette - Milkey Wave Goodbye
Mercury Rev - Frittering
Mercury Rev - Meth Of A Rockette's Kick
Mercury Rev - Sweet Oddysee Of A Cancer Cell T' Th' Center Of Yer Heart
Misty dixon - are you lost
Mogwai - mogwai fear satan
Mojave 3 - Bluebird Of Happiness
Moonshake - gravity
Moose - Around The Warm Bend
Moose - Boy
Moose - Butterfly Collector
Moose - Do You Remember?
Moose - Jack
Moose - Last Night I Fell Again
Moose - Little Bird (Are You Happy In Your Cage?)
Moose - Suzanne
Moose - The Ballad of Adam and Eve.
Moose - This River Will Never Run Dry
Mouse on Mars - Frosch
Mouse on Mars - Tux & Damask
Mudhoney -This Gift
My Bloody Valentine - honey power
My Bloody Valentine - I Only Said
My Bloody Valentine - Loomer
My Bloody Valentine - Blown A Wish
My Bloody Valentine - Cupid Come
My Bloody Valentine - Feed Me With Your Kiss
My Bloody Valentine - Lose My Breath
My Bloody Valentine - Off Your Face
My Bloody Valentine - Only Shallow
My Bloody Valentine - Sometimes
My Bloody Valentine - Soon
My Bloody Valentine - Swallow
My Bloody Valentine - sunny sundae smile
My Bloody Valentine - To Here Knows When
My Bloody Valentine - What You Want
My Bloody Valentine - When You Sleep
My Bloody Valentine - You Never Should
My Bloody Valentine - You Made Me Realise
Nice Strong Arm - Cloud Machine
Nightblooms - crystal eyes
Oneida - The Winter Shaker
The Pains of Being Pure At Heart - The Pains of Being Pure At Heart
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - Lost Saint
Pale Saints - A Deep Sleep For Steven
Pale Saints - A Thousand Stars Burst Open
Pale Saints - Half-Life, Remembered
Pale Saints - Sight of You
Pale saints - language of flowers
Pale Saints - Time Thief
Pale Saints - Throwing Back the Apple
Pale Saints - You Tear the World in Two
Pale saints - shell
Pale saints - under your nose
Papa sprain - u swell
Pia Fraus - octobergirl'
Piano Magic - I am the Sub-librarian
Piano Magic - Password
Piano Magic - Snowfall Soon
Pluramon - Noise Academy
Polara - Squelch
Prolapse - Autocade
Puressence - near distance
The Radio Dept. - David
Radio Dept - Where Damage Isn't Already Done
Raveonettes - Gone Forever
Raveonettes - You Want the Candy
Red House Painters - Katysong
Red House Painters - Mistress
Relay - context
Remy Zero - Temenos (Here Comes the Shakes)
Resplandor - breathe
Revolver - crimson
Ride - All I Can See
Ride - Birdman
Ride - Chelsea Girl
Ride - Close My Eyes
Ride - Decay
Ride - Dreams Burn Down
Ride - Drive Blind
Ride - Grasshopper
Ride - here and now
Ride - Howard Hughes
Ride - In a different place
Ride - Kaleidoscope
Ride - Leave Them All Behind
Ride - Like A Daydream
Ride - Nowhere
Ride - Paralysed
Ride - Perfect Time
Ride - Polar Bear
Ride - Seagull
Ride - Sennen
Ride - Taste
Ride - Twisterella
Ride - Unfamiliar
Ride - Vapour Trail
Rocketship - carrie cooksey
Rollerskate Skinny - Speed to my Side
the Ropers - you have a light
Sad Day for Puppets - Hush
Sad Day for Puppets - marble gods
Savage Republic - Walking Backwards
School of Seven Bells - Half Asleep
School of seven bells - ILU
School of Seven Bells - Connjur
School of Seven Bells - My Cabal
The Secret Machines - Alone, Jealous And Stoned
Secret shine - deep thinker
Secret shine - loveblind
Seefeel - Charlotte's Mouth
Seefeel - Plainsong
Seefeel - More Like Space
See See Rider - She Sings Alone
Serena-Maneesh - I Just Want To See Your Face
Serena-maneesh - un-deux
Seven Percent Solution - The Road And The Common
Sigur Ros - Svefn-G-Englar
Sigur Rós - Vaka (first track on "( )")
Sigur Rós - Fyrsta (second track on "( )")
Sigur Rós - Glósóli
Sigur Rós - Saeglópur
Sigur Ros - Starálfur
Silvania - El Día Del Cielo
Sing Sing - Panda Eyes
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Dazzle
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Swimming Horses
Slowdive - 40 Days
Skywave - All I Had
Slowdive - Avalyn I
Slowdive - Allison
Slowdive - Catch The Breeze
Slowdive - Crazy for You
Slowdive - Losing Today
Slowdive - morningrise
Slowdive - she calls
Slowdive - Slowdive
Slowdive - Souvlaki Space Station
Slowdive - Rutti
Slowdive - when the sun hits
Smashing Orange - My Deranged Heart
Smashing Orange - Only Complete In You
Smashing Orange - Any Further, It's All Over
Smashing Pumpkins - Bury Me
Smashing Pumpkins - Hello Kitty Kat
Smashing Pumpkins - Starla
Soda Stereo - Luna Roja
Sol Seppy - Slo Fuzz
Spacemen 3 - Come Down Easy
Spacemen 3 - Hypnotized
Spacemen 3 - Ode To Street Hassle
Spacemen 3 - Take Me To The Other Side
Spacemen 3 - Suicide
Space Needle - Flowers For Algernon
Spc eco - shine on down (alan moulder mix, natch)
Speck Mountain - Backsliding
spectacle - withered
spectacle - plum
Spectrum - Undo The Taboo
Spiritualized - if i were with her now
Spiritualized - Medication
Spiritualized - Run
Spoonfed Hybrid - Heaven's Knot
Springhouse - enslave me
Springhouse - asphalt angels
Starflyer 59 - You're Mean
Stereolab - Contact
Stereolab - Ping Pong
Stereolab - Super Falling Star
Stone Roses - I wanna be Adored
Straitjacket Fits - She Speeds
Straitjacket Fits - Sparkle That Shines
Sonic Youth - Beauty Lies in the Eye
Sonic Youth - JC
Sonic Youth - Star Power
Sonic Youth - Teresa's Sound World
Sounds like sunset - frequency
Sugar - Man on the Moon
Sugar Plant - Happy
The Sundays - Skin and Bones
The Sundays - Can't Be Sure
The Sundays - Here's Where the Story Ends
The Sundays - My Finest Hour
The Sundays - Goodbye
Swans - The Great Annihilator
Swervedriver - Juggernaut Rides
Swervedriver - the other jesus
Swervedriver - Rave Down
Swervedriver - Son Of Mustang Ford
Swervedriver - Never Lose That Feeling
Thee Hypnotics - Soul Accelerator
The Swirlies - sarah sitting
The Swirlies - didn't understand
The Swirlies - Pancake
The Swirlies - park the car by the side of the road
The Swirlies - two girls kissing
Talk Talk - I Believe in You
Talk Talk - Time It's Time
Talk Talk - The Rainbow
Teenage Fanclub - Everything Flows
Teenage Filmstars - Kiss Me
Teenage Fanclub - Star Sign
The Telescopes - Celeste
The Telescopes - Everso
The Telescopes - Flying
The Telescopes - High On Fire
The Telescopes - You Set My Soul
The Telescopes - Ocean Drive
Third eye foundation - sleep
This Mortal Coil - Song To The Siren
This Mortal Coil - Kangaroo
Thomas White - The Runaround
Thousand Yard Stare - Comeuppance
Thrushes - Heartbeats
Tiger Baby - Pretending part 2
Trembling Blue Stars - All Eternal Things
TV On The Radio - Young Liars
The Twilight Sad - Cold Days From The Birdhouse
Ulrich Schnauss - Clear Day
Ulrich Schnauss - Medusa
Ulrich Schnauss - Nobody's Home
Ulrich schnauss - on my own
Ulrich Schnauss - Stars
Ultra Vivid Scene - mercy seat
Ultra Vivid Scene - Not In Love (Hit By A Truck)
Underground Lovers - i was right
Velocity Girl - My Forgotten Favorite
Velocity Girl - Crazy Town
Verve - Already There
Verve - all in the mind
Verve - a man called sun
Verve - feel
Verve - Gravity Grave
Verve - No Come Down
Verve - See You in the Next One (Have a Good Time)
Verve - She's A Superstar
Verve - slide away
volcano playground - we are clashing
Windy & Carl - Lighthouse
Windy & Carl - Whisper
Wire - the 15th
Wolfhounds - Vertical Grave
Working For A Nuclear Free City - Rocket
Working For A Nuclear Free City - Quiet Place
Working For A Nuclear Free City - Nancy Adam Susan
Working For A Nuclear Free City - England (the Businessmen & Ghosts)
XTC - Easter Theater
Yo La Tengo - Blue Line Swinger
Yo La Tengo - From A Motel 6
Yo La Tengo - Tom Courtenay
Young Galaxy - The Alchemy Between Us

Some listening to do there...I've Spotified N-Z, feel free to do A-M (anyone?)

http://open.spotify.com/user/seandalai/playlist/2robvFCgZyGMUB8cf7elYh

first poll ever where i am familiar with the majority of the choices.

Number of ballots received so far: O

:(

put me down for 1 of everything

Some of my very favorite Lilys and Swirlies tracks are missing!

Should have submitted them to the nominations thread, then.

love the fact that this is happening. i wish we had more time and will get my ballot in before the deadline, probably that last minute.

will send in my votes soon, i promise! i have a partial list already but there's some stuff here i want to listen to first.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9265/iraqvote.jpg

Ismael, right now. Thanks for putting this together!

Thanks Ismael. Great list.

Ismael suggests that maybe the voting system might confuse some... no idea how to make it clearer but here goes:

Number of points: 800
Maximum # of Votes allowed: 40
Maximum # of Pointes per Vote: 50

You're free to assign points as you please as long as you don't surpass the 50 point individual quota or the 800 collective quota. Unranked lists will have their points equally divided.

surprised that midway still were not nominated.

i always think of them as camden lurch

you could hurt your brain listening to all that stuff. in a good way. i think. i like a lot of it. i'm kinda braindead though. is there a tech blog devoted to shoegaze guitar fx? i would read it.

goddam I missed the voting deadline. That is what I get for swearing off ilx to try to get some work done. You guys have nominated a number of fantastic tracks & I think I can work within these parameters.

Still.. can I late-nominate "Shine" by Bailter Space?

o well

er.. noms deadline

Deadline will be 23:59 BST on 21st October 2010

Not enough voting time. This could use +1 week at least to get a higher turnout...

i agree, i missed the deadline as well

on the voting thread

Should have submitted them to the nominations thread, then.

― Moka, Friday, October 15, 2010 1:19 AM (Yesterday)

Oops I totally missed that.

Done! Decided to eschew diversity in my list and any judgement of how closely the noms fit what I think of as shoegaze etc and just went with my favourites, which resulted in 3 bands claiming 14 of the 40 places on my list *shrugs* and my #1 not really quite fitting into these genres imo but the definitions are so mutable what do I know?

Thanks for taking the time and trouble of doing this Moka

Moka will you give us a few more days to vote plz?

priTplz?

Still.. can I late-nominate "Shine" by Bailter Space?

OK, so YES I missed the noms thread & yall have done a fine job of covering ALMOST ALL of what I'd like to vote for. Still, if they can possibly be added at this point, here are a few that I feel strongly about:

Swervedriver - Sandblasted
Swervedriver - Duel
Bailter Space - Shine
Mercury Rev - Chasing a Bee
Moonshake - Blister
Whipping Boy - Sugar I Swear
Yo La Tengo - Nowhere Near

People have voted already.

well then.. TOO BAD (o well)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhPWLv11Wt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5OG-iKE6AU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1187I2VX6M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxso0vC4aac

dry your eyes mate

^ typical shoegaze aggro

I've received two ballots already. Yeahy!

Ok if people who've sent their ballots have no problem with it I'd be happy to extend the deadline until October 25.

And well, no more noms. Sorry Pillbox and Evan. Noms thread was active for three weeks.

I wasn't (still) complaining.

Take as much time as you want, moka, 'sfine with me. Maybe get the date into the thread title at some point though, to chase up the unobservant and slothful?

unobservant and slothful - pretty much sums me up tbh

Gosh. There is a track in this list that confuses me - it'd be Number 1 if I included it, but it really doesn't fit into my concept of Shoegaze / Dream Pop / (Talk Talk influenced/original concept) Post-Rock

I felt like that a few times - including one or two of my own nominations, stupidly. In the end I marked those ones down or excluded them altogether, depending on how happy I'd be at seeing them high up in the results.

Number of ballots received so far: O

:(

Could have done with a link to this thread on the nominations thread - I hadn't seen this until now.

Yeah - I've decided that if it doesn't fit - no matter how good it is, it doesn't go in. I seem to remember the OP on the other thread suggested that nominations would naturally sort out what was right and what wasn't.

Yeh like sorry, as much as I love Mudhoney ,theyre getting no votes from me.

Got it down to 130 tunes now. As above, I think I'll probably filter out the ones that don't really belong here (e.g. 'Everything Flows' = great song, but not shoegaze).

Hmmmmmm....or maybe not.

I went for the opposite approach. I missed the nominations thread so just voted from the final list ignoring whether I thought the tracks or artists in question "belonged" there or not. Admittedly this did result in my list being pretty untypical. Certainly with regards to my #1 anyway.

God, this is difficult.

See, I'm tempted rule out 'Everything Flows' because Teenage Fanclub were never seen as 'shoegazing'. But then there are things I'm considering by groups who definitely *do* fit the bill, but the tunes don't obviously get filed under that label (e.g. Boo Radleys - Lazarus, Telescopes - You Set My Soul). And 'Everything Flows' sounds more shoegazing than either of those tunes.

'You Set My Soul' is a magnificent, beautiful thing - would probably never have rediscovered it without this poll, so again thanks to Moka

Yeah, it really is. It doesn't sound like anything else of that time, though, not even by The Telescopes.

it reminds me most of some of the Byrds' more unfocused, fragile stuff, but it's probably better than any of that

DNTEL - This Is The Dream Of Evan and Chan
^ love the Barbara Morgenstern remix. I don't care so much for the original

my list is all of the usual suspects. i think it is the 18 year old me that is voting, back when 'nowhere' was the most important record ever made.

Got my list whittled down to 67 tunes now. Time to start getting brutal: anything which doesn't fit the genre is out, and I'm going to have to sacrifice some sacred cows*.

*Metaphorically

Nowhere isn't the most important record ever made?

btw Lilys - Eskimo is cool, will need relistens, is more of a vast and massy mood-thing than a shifting sound-narrative

Ferment has "Black Metallic" on it, ergo that is the one Catherine Wheel album you really need to have.

OTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6P-pgkLJWA

... is that Youtube supposed to reinforce or refute the idea that Ferment is the only essential (note: not "good", "essential") Catherine Wheel album?

See? That just sounds like ho-hum late '90s "epic" rock to me. Bleh.

it's one of my 20 favourite songs by anyone ever, so you'll all presumably hate it

Adam & Eve is godly IMO and *completely* essential

The last CW album I even bought was Like Cats & Dogs. I probably heard Adam and Eve once or twice at the time, but I'd already made up my mind to be done with them and I haven't looked back since. They just turned into a very different and much less interesting band.

Adam & Eve was a step wayyy back forward from Happy Days - they melded everything they'd been into a propulsive, epic rock outfit with a sound a mile wide. I dig it, at least. There are loads of little production touches (Tim Friese-Green on board, of course) which add a dash of Talk Talk pastoral to the fray - the combination really works

"Black Metallic" is so, so overrated. And "Chrome" is much better than "Ferment" because Catherine Wheel are NOT a shoegaze band and their music improved when they shook off any semblance of being one.

the thing is, every Catherine Wheel track I've heard that ISN'T "Black Metallic" has been really boring

Hmm.

Wish I could magically edit Happy Days into the killer 6-track EP it should have been

Ugh, did this turn into a pompous "I know what shoegaze is u all suk" argument while I was asleep. Righto.

well more like LJ said "I KNOW SHOEGAZE AND IT IS ULRICH SCHNAUSS" and everyone who was actually listening to shoegaze bands in 1991 went "lol"

btw currently listening to a Lush-based Youtube playlist and I am kind of shocked that I wasn't more into Ride at the time

Heh. In fairness I love US and gave him some votes. And I was buying MBV records before Isnt Anything came out. And have seen Lush and Ride live.

uh thanks for that completely accurate breakdown of what happened

Nobody has even come close to answering my question, btw (where that question is 'name a good 00's shoegaze act that has not featured Ulrich Schnauss as a member')

I think that's because a lot of the people who would answer don't think very highly of 00s shoegaze?

cloudland canyon

actually crut is very OTM there - need to get hold of that record again

Mediavolo

Pluramon

ok I'm also gonna tentatively suggest Serena-Maneesh although they're not really shoegaze

well, they are

M83 mostly kinda bores me although 'Couleurs' is great

They're on the more stoner/psych end of the spectrum, but I guess they're in for a few songs. xp

M83 is much more "John Hughes soundtrack band" than "shoegaze band" based on what I've heard

M83 has made some REALLY goddamn shoegazey stuff

anyway they've probably all been discussed to death in the Thread Of Failure can someone show me a NEW shoegaze band

(where that question is 'name a good 00's shoegaze act that has not featured Ulrich Schnauss as a member')

There are plenty of good 00's shoegaze acts on the noms list!

Asobi Seksu, to answer the question

OK. Haven't minded 'em on what I've heard, but haven't heard much.

'citrus' is an all-time classic of the genre regardless of how "derivative" it is deemed to be. it's a pity AS are one of those bands i liked less once i saw them live.

I almost voted for this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8paDhfGQH4E

I did vote for this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR8jgogxgUw

I voted for Whirring over The Last Drop. I imagine, though, if they're not in the 81-100 range, they're not in at all. :(

'thursday' was my nom, so i do hope somebody voted for it.

'name a good 00's shoegaze act that has not featured Ulrich Schnauss as a member'

I liked certain things by Sereena Maneesh, The Pains of Being Pure at Heart & other bands like that, but a lot of that sort of 00s nu-gaze or whatever was mostly retro rehashing. Dykehouse's Midrange is another good one along those lines.

Bands that took stylistic cues and successfully elaborated on them, well the ones that stick out in my mind most are Asobi Seksu & School of Seven Bells. Maybe Blonde Redhead. Of the IDM overlap contingent, some of the Dan Snaith/Manitoba/Caribou definitely fits the bill & a fair amount of Four Tet as well.

xxp oh I wz just showing LJ some examples of what I thought wz decent 00s shoegaze...I hadn't even heard of these guys until this poll, but I really like Last Drop...

LJ I gave Grasshopper & On My Own a good amount of points each so that should put yr mind at ease...

Having seen how not-shoegaze skewed the votes have been so far there's all kinds of things I'm really noticing the absense of. Like. Only *one* Mazzy Star song, nothing from the first Drugstore album or the first Howling Bells album and all this kind of stuff that is definitely around the edges of whatever this shoegaze-dreampop interface is but doesn't seem to get repped for in the same way. But
them's the breaks I guess.

I kind of wished I had nom'd Lush's "Undertow"...prolley the first shoegaze song I'd ever heard.

but a lot of that sort of 00s nu-gaze or whatever was mostly retro rehashing - Even though most of Bloc Party's music didn't overlap too far into shoegazer territory, this track is the great lost Ride song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzZQJZdcCU4

I voted for Whirring over The Last Drop. I imagine, though, if they're not in the 81-100 range, they're not in at all. :(

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:35 PM (29 minutes ago)

I voted for both but yeah, if neither have shown up yet then they are not going to show up at all.

oooh i would have voted for that bloc party track. totally forgot abou it.

the Thread Of Failure

screw you, at least i'm trying

hey I was being dramatic! was only calling it a failure because people weren't being forthcoming about modern shoegaze, am sure it's full of hot tips - wouldn't have linked it otherwise

haha alright then. i'm trying to keep the flame alive!!

could you helpfully post the 3 or 4 best bands you posted in that thread right here?

just went thru that thread (man i'm an angry dude at times) and came up with these

malory
spc eco
charmparticles
sad day for puppets
depreciation guild

aha marvellous, will research

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA8sC8T5xEw

I always forget about this song b/c I didn't discover it until long after the fact - I had the US "Vapour Trail" version of the EP & for some reason never realized that the UK version had a different song. It is def one of my favorite Ride tracks at this point, tho I don't know that I would have found room on my ballot for it, had it been nominated. I am a little surprised it didn't get nominated, tho.