Andrew Scott = HOT! Discuss! (actually a Drummer question)

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OK, so name me another band where the drummer = the best songwriter coz I can't think of another.

I've been listening to Sloan's _Pretty Together_ and Andrew has finally edged over Jay for my favourite songs.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Genesis. Just kidding...

Nicole, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Jacob's Mouse

stevie, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Husker Du? (debatable... i think i'll never really decide either way on this one...)

stevie, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh god for a minute I thought this was about I guy I know. Um... Grant Hart had his moments. Peter Jefferies in This Kind of Punishment.

Andrew, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah! Yes, Husker Du! Or, erm... maybe. Tie, I think.

Genesis, gettouttahere! And ditto for snipping you snarks in the bud before anyone tries to say The Eagles.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

nononono, Andrew and his tight pants do not eclipse Jay's songs. Dreaming of You is klassik.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beatles clearly.

mms, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, you are wrong.

Dreaming of You = CLASSIC *BUT* ...

In The Movies roXORs like a motherfucker. It's all about that who-U- like intro. This is the first time ever that I've dug a Sloan album out of the record pile months later, because I'm dying to hear the Andrew songs.

Not to mention the trousers. Oh, they are very tight. Leave absolutely nothing to the imagination. Details, outlines, everything. It's the Bobby G effect.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all aboot Neil Peart, man.

I always liked Patrick's songs the most, but I've only got three Sloan LPs, so perhaps the others jumped ahead of him on those ones I haven't heard.

Vic Funk, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Bobby G effect outbeating the SHB midget effect? Mercury must be in retrograde still.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The Descendents. Sheesh.

J, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Hrrrrmmmm. Kate hearts Damien Hirst so...

http://www.sloanmusic.com/gallery/pt/andyshark.jpg

So how about I dress up like Damien Hirst and paint PIKTURES of sharks (coz there is no Canadian Saatchi to buy me a REEL one) will she adore me, then?

RESULT!!!!

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate I can find you some April Wine casettes if you want.
I just wish they would return to their Beatles/Big Star worship. That would probably require Chris to stop ordering stuff from the Kiss catalog so it could be a while.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw the damien hirsts preserved sheep thing at a gallery in Berlin the other week.

gareth, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Now Im worried about you getting your hands on All She Wants, the site of Andrew in undone tight leather pants and kissing a blond skinney boy might be too much.

mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, Cat keeps telling me that new Sloan sounds like April Wine, but you know, I don't think I've ever actually HEARD April Wine to be able to get the joke. Is that one of those secret Canadian things?

I don't mind the KISS worship, I think it's quite amusing. To be fair, I like Sloan best when they sound like The Nazz.

Patrick used to be my second favourite Sloan writer, but now he's dropped to third place. Chris still in last place, because his only good song, ever, was Deeper Than Beauty. Which was just a de-grunged rewrite of Underwhelmed.

I am actually slightly disappointed that no one has brought up Don Henley so I can't tell my Eagles joke.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Don Henley

Andrew, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to go out with the drummer from an Eagles tribute band...

::drum roll:: ba-dum-bum-bump

I don't need to write Sloan slash. They make MOVIES slashing themselves. More reasons Andrew Scott = rOXOr.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

she fell in love with a drummer, another and another...

April Wine were a bad, bad very bad Canadian rawk band from Halifax in the 70s. Kinda CanCon polite poodle rock, Sean could tell more, I dont even remeber their big singles. But you liked Between the Bridges didnt you? So you may dig em.
I did mention that live they've dropped the key on Open My Eyes so it doesnt sound like Nazz anymore eh?

mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I await the day Sloan finally jack it in and admit they just want to be BTO.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

come on, noodles - 'Could Have Been A Lady'? How could you forget!! It's ENCODED IN YOUR DNA!!!

I can't say I understand affection for any Sloan post-Navy Blues (though that song 'The Other Man' is OK). But Andrew songs like Chester The Molester and People Of The Sky have a certain charm. I still dig OCTA more than the others, for which people say I'm insane.

Dave M., Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Chester The Molester and People Of The Sky are are also classic but while Between The Bridges was almost saved by Jay's got Take Good Care Of The Poor Boy and hes got a clean record, none of this pickidhup and DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHL ID! mess.

Aha, I was so tempted to write "Shes a Lady" as April Wine's single but I knew it was Tom's, though Id love to hear them do that, well love it as much as I'd love to hear them do anything.

mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Chester the Molester = Chris, not Andrew. Andrew's big song on Navy Blues was, erm, Loose Lips Sinks Ships or Careless Talk Costs Trout or something.

I've only really come to appreciate Andrew post-Navy Blues. I didn't care much for his early stuff at all. Jay was always my favourite - come on, Snowsuit Sound! ::clap clap clap clap::

I think I can appreciate all eras of Sloan because I only really discovered them around Navy Blues, due to geographic unavailability. So I don't have this idea of a golden age which many Canadian fans seem to have, I can take it all at face value. OCTA seems to be most people I knows' favourite.

BTW, Zac, I didn't love or hate Between the Bridges, I just thought it was incredibly poorly sequenced. I could never get past The NS, which was a really strange choice for opener. And they put the most RAWK song (Take Good Care Of The Poor Boy - thanks, Jay) right at the end, which seemed suicidal, I would never make it that far into the album.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i hate the liner notes to one chord to another. who wrote them?

, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I just remeber someone trying their best to make a case for the first 5 or 6 songs on the album, I guess I thought it was you. Sea shante not withstanding I still like the last 4 songs the best.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Chico T. Sanchez, ROCKOLOGIST!!!

Best liner notes, EVER. But we've discussed this before.

FF, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

as if sloan are "original-sounding". and it's in a retarded font too.

, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the punctuation stinks. i bet chris wrote them they're so gay.

, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Its my dream career.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

OOps, I mean, Kate, not FF, I'm getting confused, Fi only comes out to argue with editors!

Exactly what I mean about BTB being badly sequenced. The last four songs are utter powerhouses. Even the last five, I'd say, cause I love Waiting For Slow Songs, as well. The whole album is sequenced backwards. Think how great it would be if it started with Delivering Maybes, then TGCOFPB, then Marquee/Moon.

Sloan albums should ALWAYS sock you in the jaw with about 3 or 4 rockers before going to the ballads and the moody, introspective Andrew songs. As Pretty Together does.

I lied, it's not a drummer thread, it's a Sloan thread. But the real Sloan C or D thread is so boring.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

VITAL INFORMATION ABOUT THIS RECORDING: So here we have it - One Chord to Another - The long-awaited long-playing heavy from the SLOAN group and it's all yours. There's no rush, but why don't you toss it on your player and hear for yourself what all the fuss is about? Feel free to go ahead & read the liner notes while you lis- ten to the album (the combination of these words and the music on this album are designed for your maximum entertainment). Ready? Let's begin: This time out, one words sums up the SLOAN sound better than any other word (as if you don't already know) that word would be ORIGINAL. Not only are these SLOAN songs original in the sensethat they are written and performed by the boys themselves, but also because they are very original sounding. SLOAN are no band's fool & early on in the 'vicious game' they real- ized the key to keep on keeping on was to 'blow minds'. so if some of the sounds you hear on One Chord to Another - piano, trumpet, maracas (a Spanish percussion instrument the boys discovered on tour), even backwards electric guitar (?!) - seem a little 'bugged out' or strange, make no mistake: All of these elements were selected just for you - the SLOAN fan. Once these musical ingredients were chosen, the difficult process of turning SOUNDS into SONGS began. Unlike some of their competitors (they shall remain nameless) who are content to haphazardly toss their music together with little or no regard for the resulting 'mish- mash' or 'imbroglio', if you will, the SLOAN group puts all their compositions through a rigourous trial & error testing period before they ever reach your ears. In fact, some SLOAN songs never make it onto the records! However, this is rarely the case ('waste not, want not' is something of an unofficial SLOAN motto). After a lot of time & effort, the music was given the 'thumbs up' by all (the boys are like a committee of four when it comes to artistic decisions) and the group began chosing lyrics. Having already 'blown minds' with colourful & unusual words like 'cajole' & 'sizzleteen' on earlier tracks, SLOAN certainly had their work cut out for them this time. However, the boys are always up for a challenge and I'm sure you'll agree that the vocabulary on One Chord to Another is amongst the most ear-pleasing in the entire SLOAN catalogue. As for the SLOAN SECRET - if you (the SLOAN fan) listen closely and decipher clues, you'll be on your way to solving the puzzle (or so you might think). So here we have it - One Chord to Another - the long-awaited long-playing heavy from the SLOAN group. Feel free to press repeat and start reading the words which begin at the top of this page. Ready?

, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the punctuation stinks. i bet chris wrote them they're so gay.

The loudest boos by a small crowd I ever heard where when Pansy Division called Sloan cocksuckers club members in Halifax. The crowd went banannas, I meant eh bassist stripping down nude and running around didnt phase anyone, but bad mouth Sloan and your asking for it.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend's band made me a laminate AAA crew pass where my position is listed as "Rockologist". It is one of my most treasured possessions.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

imbrolglio isn't even a real word. and sloan don't know how to play marcasas.

, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you catch the April Wine reference in those liner notes?

Fritz, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The marcasas, the one true test of a Rockologist.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

No sadly, I havent read them in a dogs age.

Hey Kate, Strokes vs Sloan, which band would make better MANLUV?

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Lurker, you are Chris Murphy, and I claim my £5!

How's the novel coming?

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Funny you should ask...

http://www.sloanmusic.com/gallery/smeared/outtake1.jpg

There's some definite MANLUV going on with Paddy's guitar there.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know how I missed the Chris Murphy lurker posting the liner notes. Damm, Im stuck at work and all I wont to do is clap along to Snowsuit sound. Still, even when their albums are crap they do a good live show, but Im not paying anymore then I already did for those this summer, 30 freaking bucks.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

At least you live in a country where Sloan actually tour. Fuck, you're in TRONNO, you can see Sloan record shopping down the street! Sloan come here once every five years, and then, they either play RadiofuckingFour or else support the Barenaked Ladies. Sigh. Mutter. I think I'll go listen to Snowsuit Sound on infinite repeat for a while, mmmmm.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I await the day Sloan finally jack it in and admit they just want to be BTO.
They're already taking care of business.
every way, every day.

mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that BTO?!?!?!?

Christ, I always thought it was the Eagles. I am so not up on my 70s cheeserock.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Chester the Molester = Chris, not Andrew

cue LL Cool J - "Damn it! Uhn! Damn it! Uhn!"

Jay's songs are ok on Twice Removed but shite on OCTA - come on, 'Junior Panthers' is not a patch on 'G Turns To D'.

As my friend L*nds*y sez, Chris Murphy is SLEAZY!

Dave M., Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris Murphy is more than sleazy, he is actually SMARMY.

Which brings us back to the original proposition, which was the Andrew Scott also = HOTTEST member of Sloan. Mmmmm. Grey hair.

Right, enough out of me. Time to take the last train back to reality.

kate, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate has officaly resigned her PHEB club membership, turning her back on the charms of the SHB in the group.
Think Im going to bomb a town, get down.

Mr noodles, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh come on. Chris Murphy is the best. "Suppose They Close the Door" is the greatest song ever made.

Manny Parsons, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Suppose They Close The Door isn't even the best song on that album! Sheesh! Erm... crikey. I listened to Navy Blues yesterday and I decided that my favourite song on it is actually On The Horizon.

Which only goes to PROVE my point!

And I've just realised that I'm the only person that prefers Twice Removed to OCTA for the simple reason that the Jay songs on Twice Removed are so much better. Weex.

kate, Monday, 19 August 2002 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I can point out a few more of us Twice Removed fans. Both silly Chart 'industry' polls placed Twice Removed way, way higher then OCTA. Though your probably right, your the only person who sides soley cause of Jay.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 19 August 2002 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

didn't they vote Twice Removed the #1 canadian record of all time a few years ago? pheh. chart. watch out, we'll all be working for them someday.

Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 19 August 2002 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Meta-question. Am I the only non-Canadian on this thread?

OK, today I got mistaken for Canadian at the Canadian Embassy (that's where we're having our album launch party) but STILL! Sheesh!

kate, Monday, 19 August 2002 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Chart voted Twice Removed #1 in 96, #3 in the second one (behind Blue and Harvest, at least they could have picked Tonights the Night or Rust Never Sleeps). Its an amusing list, Rheostatics clocked in at 4 AND 5, both GYBE releases make it into the 40s despite one of them being an ep.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 19 August 2002 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

To answer the metaquestion: No, Ned chimes in and I refuse to believe that d**mp*tr*l is one of us one of us.
Where in the embassy are you having the launch and how did you convince them?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 19 August 2002 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Doomie is SO Canadian! Law Society of Upper Canadia, remember?

The Canadian embassy thing started as a joke, cause, like, we wanted to have our album launch somewhere unusual, and not stupid and industry. So Jane remembered that Canada House has this cinema room where they sometimes do showcase performances of Canadian artists. She wrote to them and asked them if we could do it there, and yeah, we count as CanCon, so they'll have us.

Went and checked out the room/building today, and it's very nice apart from having to go through a metal detector when you go in. That's pretty RAWK.

Though I won't believe that we're really CanCon till we've been on MuchMusic. Animal suits optional.

kate, Monday, 19 August 2002 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you catch the April Wine reference in those liner notes?

Rock and roll IS a vicious game! I remember April Wine for such lovely hits as "Tonight is a Wonderful Night to Fall in Love" (oh yeah), "If You See Kay" (DO YOU SEE WHAT THEY DID THERE) and such favourites as "Sign of the Gypsy Queen", "Just Between You and Me" and "WANNA ROCK" (the last three all in a row on a single album!). Let us please forget "Every Night I Rock Myself to Sleep", as found on the Fright Night soundtrack (shudder).

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 19 August 2002 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

ps. I have personally seen two members of Sloan record shopping, and two of those members eating at restaurants. I tend not to bug them, but if there's a message you'd like me to pass along, kate, let me know.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 19 August 2002 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah if its Jay, "Kate likes your green trainers!" :P

(testing the hard return thingy)

I don't remeber how you qualify as Cancon. I thought you took the writing and music credits to BBBLLL. I remeber the demo cassette was to "The Lollies" which was you and Jane, so 50% written and performed by a Canadian which I thought gets M, A and L slices of the MAPL pie. Im no entertainment lawyer, but hell you've been on national charts debuting higher then GYBE so there, your defacto Canadian, if not honorary. Hell we charted you as Canadian but Earshot wouldnt give you the (CC) of death. You realize that by becoming even honorary Canadian you kill all chances of ever breaking the American market, as if being based in Engerland isnt making it hard enough. (regardless of that not being your goal/ambition)

I heart C'est What's shepards [booze] pie.

cow, unbranded, Monday, 19 August 2002 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Geeze, Noodles, if I ever spot them again I'm going to tell them just how obsessedyou are, now that I think about it, and tell them to keep an eye out for you. ;)

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 20 August 2002 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Ned chimes in

True. Though I'm afraid Sloan BORE me senseless. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 August 2002 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice guys tho'

The best songwriter in Cold Chisel was the drummer.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

LOVE CHILD! Will Baum wrote the best songs on "Okay?". Though Alan Licht's songs were great too.

Scottie wrote Karp's best song "Obstacle Corpse".

donut bitch, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't have anything else to say, I just wanted to keep looking at the hot photos of Andrew. Mmmmmm.

My friend filled me with CHOCOLATE last night and MADE ME watch the If It Feels Good, Do It video over and over and over again. There's starting to be as much of a glitch on the tape where Andrew flicks his hair and licks his lips as there is on the Bobby G Leather Trousered Hairflick bit of JAMC's Just Like Honey video. This worries me.

kate, Thursday, 22 August 2002 08:14 (twenty-two years ago)


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