Jay-Z/Nas and other hip-hop throwdowns? Pt. 3: Still Going . . .

Just what it says folks. Holla at ya boy!

I'm out like Part Muthafuckin 2... without gay ass Elton John. Peace!

aaah,yes.nice to know how easily niggaz can forget you.

ahhh...at last!

Im still here. I hope all them other cats see the message before the board is gone.

there's common vs. ice cube.

i hear that common got inspired for once and handed cube's ass to him on some track i've never heard. plenty of hip-hop heads i know say it's the only worthy common song.

Glad to see you guys making the move! :-) Long may you thrive.

Part 3 three has arrived, big shout out to Hill for puttin part 3 down. Don't have much to say really because I forgot what was the current topic. I think everyone said their peace on current events so we don't have to rehash that. But I am pretty sure there is more comming soon.

when the old board is unlocked again (tomorrow midday?) everyone will be directed to this one

This be that threadster formerly known as B.Diddy thanking Hillis for the call-out. Best, look,I don't wanna be nagging you, so what the hell. Say what you say. Has anyone heard The Pledge yet? Do you feel me when I say I AM SO SICK OF ASHANTI HOOKS! For real I am so sick of her. Who does this girl think she is calling herself princess of hiphop and r&b? In my opinion the real princess is none other than- hell yes yall know who I'm talkin about- Aaliyah.(rest in peace babygirl) Anyway, what you think about the song? The Pledge, I mean.

I haven't seen the old thread for days so you may have discussed this already.

Woooooooo!!!!!!! Keep on being the best thread on ILM guys....

"Shhhh, be quit....I sense something of greatness entering this thread.....Oh my GAWD.....it's The Best himself....MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP".....and the crowd goes krazy.

Aight, aight I see that B2K has created another thread. He sounds really proud of himself that he created another thread, so I guess he wants us to show our appreciation. Well thank you B2, you are greatly appreciated.......I'm lying...oh and for the record if your going to use a the "I'm lying" joke of mine....ASK next time....LOL

Now back to this 2 Wack Shakur debate. Once again Pac was the most overrated "rapper" in hip hop history. His lyrics were WACK with a passion, with the exception of the Makaveli lp. His wordplay was extremely corny...."Now it's on and it's on because I said so/ can't trust a bitch in the business so I got with Death Row"....WTF. On the real, all dun spat about was dying and how "bitch niggaz" set him up. Once again, that shit becomes mad boring. He couldn't freestyle if his life depended on it, but that wouldn't matter because all he talked about was catching "five" and gettin' killed anyway...LMAO Also, Pac was a HATER to the extreme. This nigga constantly HATED on Frank White, and the bad thing about it is that Mr. White never responded and still managed to outdue this nigga LYRICALLY, MUSICALLY, AND FINANCIALLY!! Speaking of financially, this herb always wanna bring up 2 Wack's sales. Aight, wo might have sold mad records, but what's the use of selling if you're getting fukked outta ya green.....LMAO....The nigga sold all of those records and died with only 80 G's to his name. He wasn't even a millionaire....LOL!! But back to his "rapping" ability. B2K you asked me to provide you with a list of all of his joints where he said/SCREAMED(because he did do alot of that garbage) the words..."ENEMIES", "HENESSEY", "ADVESARIES", and "MOB"....so here it is....are you ready....."Ambitions As A Ridah", "Fuck The World", "How Do You Want It", "If I Die Tonight", "So Many Tears", "Hearts Of Man", "It Aint Easy", "Cant See Me", "No More Pain", "Check Out Time", "Heavy In The Game", "Lord Knows", "When We Ride"....and the realest shit he ever wrote...."Against All Odds"...LMAO...and don't get it confused prick, that is excluding his diss tracks, the "Until The End Of Time" lp, "The Lost Tapes" lp, the "2Pacalypse Now" lp, and any other miscellaneous shit. Face it dun, ya favorite rapper was overrated. All the nigga had going for him was his charisma and emotion. And he built a fan base off of his New York Shooting and beef with Bad Boy Records.

Now let's move along to your wammy ass B2K. Dun, I know that I've said this before, but you're pathetic. First off, you criticize me for sharing my experiences with pledging to this thread...WTF. If that's the case then you should bash Q for tellin' us about his new born cousin and intremural basketball team, or Macka about his job and several holidays and going to the bar, or Dolo about his encounters at school, or even your nicompoop ass about your squad named "Ether"...LOL...Dumb ass, read closely it's a big difference from when you're tellin' your FRIENDS about this thread then sharing your personal experiences with this thread. Every vet on here whether it be myself, Q, Macka, Big J, Steph, Dolo etc. has shared an experience that happened in their life with this thread, but you are the only one who ACTUALLY tells your friends about what goes on here. I bet you be telling them that we be havin' "lyrical" battles and shit and they should come check it out...ROTFLMAO!! Nigga you are garbage, you should get out more and explore LIFE...cause it's obvious that you don't have one....

...Also moron, read closely, there's a huge difference when you post and when every other vet posts. You see you are the ONLY vet who has been posting CONSISTENTLY/EVERY DAY since your first post way back on the first thread, while every other vet has taken some sort of a break and attended to their LIVES!! You wanna bring up the fact that you can afford the internet? Stupid mothafucka...LOL...all of us can afford the internet, but that doesn't mean that we're always on it. And then you wanna come at me with that blah blah blah about you get paid to be on the internet? FUCK OUTTA HERE. Nigga don't you have a college degree, what the fukk are you doing with an internet job? What, you make $8.00 an hour...LOL. Once again, you need to go and purchase a life. Oh and did it really take your 4 or 5 posts to address me? Didn't I inform you of that "NA" progam which helps individuals get over me emotionally? You should consider because you have serious problems....gettin' all gassed and you don't even know me. On more thing, I could have sworn that Faye88 or whatever her name is addressed me, not Hillis so what the fuck are you doing sticking ya long neck ass into this "conversation"....GET OFF OF MY SCROTUM!!

Lastly, you wanna bring up shit that Nas spit in 99/00 and try to clown it. Well how about I do the same, and why don't you try to denouce this verse: "It's a thin line between paper and hate
friends and snakes, nine millis and thirty-eights
Hell or the pearly gates; I was destined to come
Predicted, blame GAWD, he blew breath in my lungs
Second to none, wicked turn wives to widows
Shoot through satin pillows, the desolate one
Took a little time to claim my spot
Chairman of the board until this game stops, and I side with the Lord
Ride for the cause while drivin niggas shot at my doors
Plottin I'm sure to catch me with they glocks to my jaws
Tried, stickin me up, but I flipped on these ducks
Instead of me, ambulances were picking them up
NIGGAZ FEAR WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, HATE WHAT THEY CAN'T
CONQUER, GUESS IT'S JUST THE FURY OF MAN
Became a monster, on top of the world, never fallin
I'm as real as they come, from day one, forever ballin"....I dare you to try to call this shyt commercial...This specific verse and song is dedicated to HATERS like you...and it also shits on anything 2 Wack Shakur ever spit.

"DAMN, MVP wasn't playing this time around, was he?"...As I exit the crowd looks at me in amazement......"He's incredible...MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP"

"The difficult I accomplish easily, and the impossible just takes a little longer"-Nas

Oh and for the record,

you losers amaze me! you created another installment of pure bullshit! i guess i will have to grace this place with my lyrical talent bitches!

With all the flames I spit it's some amazin' my tongue isn't rockin' a few fire station/
Raisin' shit like a hospital denyin' patients/
Wacker rappers and hip-hop are like dangerous molecules and violent agents; they don't mix/
When I wrote this I wasn't focused--there were just too many opponents tryin' to throw a diss at my rap defenses and attack me senseless/
But don't be hopeless, I smacked them degenerates with a rappin' edifice till they slacked over breathless/
So advanced my bars defy time/ Lyrics I spark till the mic shines/ All the emcees I battled retreat to the shadows, scarred for a lifetime/
Told ya I tear shit, there couldn't be holier lyrics if God writes rhymes/
When I lash words I cause massacres, I deserve four stars yo/ Or to be more impartial, four supernovas/
'Cause I'm always attracting like my rapping is unipolar/
I assume the role of idol or icon/ 'Cause the last MC is a primal till I'm on; then they're title is bygone/
My rivals are like ions; they're too small for people to know it happens/
I creep through with potent talents like an eagle with open talons, then dive at my prey, attack, start flyin' away/ If they survive then they stay while I eat 'em alive/ See son, it's life when you're an opponent to me/ I flow like beast, and when I'm showin' my teeth I'm even too ferocious for beats/
Too gross for the streets/ Even Goatse would agree/
I'm so evil I should be illegal, like a car with no headlights/ And if not then, just cautioned, like kids playing with leadpipes/
I read right through your bluff, you ain't tough/ You is just one of those music buffs that uses drugs like a pound of 'cane to sound insane and abuse the stuff/
I'm too rough for craziness, I'll snuff you brainless/
My style's called Subcutaneous--it gets beneath your skin/
In a battle I'm least to win 'cause I can't flow/ And that's only 'cause the mic stand explodes when I handle/ I freestyle quicker than lightnin' bolts, and I CAN'T write it first because the likeness of my words are so dangerous my inditement explodes/
You're like the pilots of Aaliyah's plane; no one's crying to see ya again/
Better yet, no one cares/ Start a word fight and you'll get served TWICE, like if I flow in pairs/call me bob the builder/message board killer/aint nobody else here that iller/
have you dancin around like 'thriller'

Bob(b)? At the risk of losing my veteran status and worldwide respect... that was not bad at all. Wow! I never thought I'd see the day that Boob would write anyhting other than "rad" and "Ha!"

Wizzard, please accept my sincere apologies. I knew I would forget someone and unfortunately you were the "Chosen One." My bad, really, my bad. I mean I know and they know that your opinion is mad respected on this board, brother. Remember, I'm Mr. Don't Stop - not Mr. Remember All The Thread Vets... lol

MVPee, I know you and everyone else await my reponse like folks with the cemetary - they're just DYING to see it! HA!

A) Dun, although your post was garbo, you did manage to leave me totally stumped about one thing... what happened to the "Who is it?" nonsense?

B) Just cause placing the words "biblical," "scriptures," "Zeus," "Aphrodite," and many other stereotypical big words get your pussy lips flowing like the Amazon doesn't mean the rest of the hip-hop world responds to that. Nas is a lyricist all on his own, true, but I hardly find his lyrics the best. I prefer cats like BIG, Eminem, Jay-Z, Andre 3000, Big Boi, Bun B, and of course 2PAC. And many more people prefer these cats over Nas. And I would hardly call Nas overrated because YOU are the only stan I've ever heard that would place Nas in the tier of Pac or Big or even Em. Most people realize that Nas is in rap's elite, but would hardly go so far as to say Nas's name can be tossed around when discusing the GREATESTS! And dunny, please. If Nas died right now with $2 to his name, you would still be on this board blowin his cock like usual, so if Pac died with 80Gs you know that's irrelevant. And look at the pot callin the kettle black! You would say that Pac "built" his success off of Bad Boy, but you would deny that Nasty's recent bang has come from none other than his beef with Jigga?! NEGRO PLEASE!!! If not for Ether and the other freestyles, NO ONE WOULD GIVE A DAMN ABOUT STILLMATIC! Like Q said, Nas would love to be like Pac and succeed in this rap game like Makaveli. Goin on 105 and blastin all of today's top rappers? I liked it better the first time when PAC DID IT! Or how about that verse you posted? From the extremely WACK "Hate Me Now." That cross scene in the video? Yeah, I liked that better the first time I saw it ON THE MAKAVELI COVER! And Puffy did the garbage hook. So, yes, that "shyt" was commercial through and through.

C) The reason(s) I would clown you about informing us of your pledge life are rather simple. First, neither Q, Macka, or any other vet felt it necessary to rib me about telling my friends about B2K. Second, when I told them about B2K, Qool had just posted it the day before and I thought that shit was mad HILLarious, so when I hear B2K, I can't help but think of that joke. As I said, I started laughing when he asked me about my B2K tickets cause I had no idea they would be in Nashville. They asked why I thought it was so funny and I told them. No shame in the game. Third, my boy just got through pledging Omega this past spring and he would tell me all the details about his pledge life. However, he wouldn't just start telling random niggas he couldn't even place a face to the inside scoop. I dunno, maybe the Kappas pledge weak at Southern, but you was tellin us shit like we was yo best friends and shit. Holidays, nephews, basketball - I hardly find that comparable to pledging. But again, maybe them Kappas pledged you weak. And finally, I can clown you because, well, I can. So FUCK OUTTA HERE!

D) Dun, I find you very amusing. In many ways. But it's funny to see you pass judgement on, basically, words you see on a computer screen that are attached to Hillis 3000. Numerous times you tell me to "get a life" or "get a job" or "get some pussy" and I'm like, "Nigga, you don't know me." And then you say I get all "gassed" about this site. Dunny, just look at your posts. And not just against me, but in general. Your posts are always angry. You say "fuck" more than Pac says "hennessy" and "enemies" combined. I'm not gonna say you get gassed over this, but, damn, I have a strong case if I wanted to make that claim. And dun, I have a job since you care about me so much. And at that job, when I get bored, I have the ability to surf the web. Which I do. And I come to this site to discuss NUMEROUS topics with NUMEROUS people. If you notice, I have discussions with Q, Big J, 3:16, Hollywood, Faye, Steph... anybody that shows up. However, you come to only YELL at me. You keep coming back for more. I'll go ahead and put it in words: I'll post when I want, as often as I want, and about what I want. If I feel like posting 4 or 5 times a day, then I will. Like I said, there was a time when you and every other vet posted 4 or 5 times a day. Now you say they don't because they have lives to attend to. So when you were doing that, your logic implies that you had no life. So congratulations Nchekwube. You recently found a life. I'm glad for you and I hope that life works for you, dun. Really I do. And by the way... I liked that "You have no life" argument much better the first time I heard it... WHEN ROB WAS SAYING IT ABOUT YOU! LMAO!

E) Ok, so Faye addressed you. I answered. Why are you crying? it ain't like someone ain't never commented on specific questions before. It's a thread. It ain't like y'all whisperin to each other. My bad. I apologize for answering a question. But did you read your December 4th post, dun? You should... lol.

F) I wish I could type this in Ebo, but I can't so please try and get a translator for my English... WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT NAS QUOTE ABOUT THE BROKEN SKY, THE BIRDS, THE BIRDS, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH???!!! ALl you have done is continue to post more Nas babble without explaining the point. I know you can do that. You've been doing it since November! FUCK OUTTA HERE!

G) Finally, I have something just for you. I met this random guy at a bar the other day from Vegas and me and him waxed my other two boys in a game of pool since we needed a fourth for doubles. He was tellin me how much he loved the West Coast rap music. He tells us he loves Pac and then proceeds to sing this line in Pac's style... "Sippin hennessy, ridin on my enemies..." I just shook my head. That was some funny shit.

Yo Faye, I'm not so much sick of Ashanti's hooks, but I am surprised that this oversampling chick gets a lot of props.

Ok, here's a little part of my post I like to call Random Observations... Is not the funniest part of Cam's "Hey Ma" the part where I think Juelz goes, "Get in the car. Don't touch nothing. Sit in the car..." LMAO! Why in the hell did N.O.R.E. get Nas, Nelly, Ice T, and Tyson Beckford on the same song? Ok, I downloaded Scarface's new song (On My Block) and didn't listen to the whole song before I burned it on a CD. MISTAKE! Come to find out, I done downloaded the same verse over and over and over - FOR THREE MINUTES! I have to admit I like Dilemma, but damn, Nelly. I try to let you do your own thing, but you make it so hard when you just R&B it up. Damn. Why the fuck does that Sacario dude on Angie Martinez's new song sound JUST LIKE JIGGA?! Mama call my lawyer cause it's time to go trial! Ok, I gotta go. My life is calling...

I'm out like original beats in Murda Inc. Peace!

By the way, NON-DEBATED THIEF, I'm sorry you got so offended with me using your I'm lying joke. I mean, you would never call me B2K after Qool made it up, or use my outro remarks. Why don't I stick to making up "clever" names by adding INA or ANA to someone's name?

FUCK OUTTA HERE!

I'm out like this F-A-G-O-L-O-U-S ass kanedropper. Peace!

bout damn time someone realizes my GREATNESS.

Go to this link http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=13927 and read the whole thing.

Hillis I know you seen that "Move" video from your boy luda right? I actually think its pretty tight except for Mystikals verse. Speaking of videos what the fuck is up with all these Astros jerseys? Nores wearing one, some white dude in the Scarface video is wearing one, I think P Shitty is wearing one, oh well i thought id just bring that up.

I was thinkin about these threads now and how its been up for over a year. I this would be some good shit for TV i swear. We would just sit up on stage and talk about whatever and breakup brawls between Hillis and Best after they done freestylin on eachother lol.

Yo Big J, I would never brawl with that ruffian! I am a man of couth and civility. Anyway, Boob, one verse doesn't equal greatness... unless you're a fan of East Coast hip-hop! HA!

Big J, I remember that Rolling Stone article from last summer. I believed dude about the corruption in the police force regarding BIG. Too bad if he gets any real evidence he'll be iced like water in the freezer (that was a tight assimile). I actually didn't like the "Move Bitch" song until I saw the video. I mean, when Infamous 2-0 has the best lyrics, that's not a good thing. But the video was tight, so I now I got to bump that cut.

Astros jersies? Hmmm... I wouldn't wear one. Still, anything's better than them Redskins jerseys. Speaking of the wack ass Washington Red"skinnies," where's Q so I can talk shit about how my beloved TENNESSEE TITANS are gonna wax that ass and send Spurrier home crying like the TENNESSEE VOLS did last year! And where's Macka-daddy? I wanna let him know how much rugby sucks compared to American football!

I'm out like QS and Macka. Peace!

"Just when you think you out... They pulling you back in"

FINALLY... MACKA 3:16... HAS COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!... TO ILX!

Ahhhhh did you miss me? huh? Well seeing as this is a thread about beefs, I might as well talk some sense for a bit. KRS-1 officially destroyed Nelly. Nelly was all like... "KRS, you old ya heeeeerrrrrd!, I got a number 1 in heere!" so KRS came back with... "you aint for real and you aint universal/your whole style sounds like an n'sync commercial". oh theres more... "you're limited, like the speed of traffic/you bite my style of the radio so when you speak it back I hear the static"

Plus I think Hove has stepped up his rhyming ability. All the new shit I heard from him is tighter than the last...

"My brain on the top is long like marathons/more popular than tons of marajaun/And if you aint strong enough to carry on/i'm a heavyweight, you aint never carried Shawn"

Nature dissed Nas but it didn't work... Cam dissed him, it didn't work. BUT Jay-Z challenged Nasir to a freestyle battle on pay-per-view and Nas said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Shout outs to all the vets who stuck with it and will continue to stick with this mofo!

I'm out like... Nah Hill already used that one!

Peace

Just read all the posts properly... DAMN! BACK vs WILLIS again?

Big J, I gots to agree, this shit would make tight tv. Unfortunately all the spotlight would be on me cos i'm just too damn pretty.

I'm out like an American football player with a cheeseburger... FAT BASTARD!

Peace

What up my peeps, aka I-Net famo, aka, my source of entertainment. The Q double O to the L has been mourning the death of a loved one so I was outtie. It had me trippin, but I'm back in this joint and I see I have to address a few things. 1st of all, shout out to H3K for starting a new joint. Next, call out on this "long neck clown" for faking on them Redskins. I shouldn't have ever mentioned them new jerseys on the last thread, lol. Man, I like them joints and even if you don't, I dare you to say the Tennessee TITans jerseys are better, or that cRAP that them Outkast boys wear (Outkast and thier clothing…you lost already). And what did the VOLS do last year? I don’t even watch college ball so I don’t know. Anyway, you see them skins, they will definitely put a hurting on them bammas from Tennessee, watch. Next, I heard about Hov asking to battle it out on Pay per view, but Nas said, “PPV is for wrestlers, I’m a rapper (I’m a Christian, LOL). If you really wanna see who is better, drop your album the same day I drop mine.” I’m telling you, Jay still is a tight spitter, but he still don’t want it with Nas. Moving on, Faye, I can’t stand Ashanti or any other artist/CEO from Murder Sink. Yeah, I’m tired of her hooks, her songs and her in general. Princess of hip hop? Don’t get me started, cause she don’t want it with Brandy, Monica, Tamia, Mya, my baby mama Beyonce’ or anybody from the Destiny’s Child camp or Aaliyah. I could go on, but I think y’all got the point. Best, that was my little neph I was speking on, not my cuz. And did anybody see that Hard Knock Life Tour Documentary, yet? I mentioned it before but now it was shown on cable, so y’all probably saw it, right? Anyway, this man Dame Diddy was crying thru the entire movie; for real, cuz was acting like a baby. “I’m not getting my way, so I’m gonna whine.” And this bamma was getting a haircut and he already had a bald head, lol. Cuz is pitiful. I think the public over exaggerates too, when they speak of him and Aaliyah; she ain’t like him all like that…okay, I’m hating now, so let’s move on. Hillis, I don’t think cuz on Angie Fartina’s song sounds like Jay, but I could picture Jay spitting the exact same stuff. Before I forget, shout out to Frank for emailing me and giving me the info about this new board, and for being a fan without being a Stan; same goes to Ned, Mike Robott M Matos. And Dom Passantino; you’re cool, but I prefer fems. Get it? And Wiz, I ain’t forget you; you retire more than Jordan, but you straight wit me. Now for some old news, since I have been away. Philly is not a better team without Motumbo. Be serious, his d is ferocious and he can put up like about 12 and hit the free throws. Plus he honed his skills in the same place as AI…D.C., home of Nonchalant, Ameara, and Tommy Davidson, lol. And home away from home of Tank, Mya, Tigger and some people I can’t think of right at this moment. Oh yeah, Jay ain’t leaving the ROC, who assumed that would be a believable rumor? Hillis, LOL, tell me, didn’t Clarke B. murder INC that man kazper, on his own thread? LOL, that ain’t make no sense whatsoever. Kazper, you’re suppose to come back after something like that. LOL, Clarke B. dug up in that man, LOL. Lastly, y’all hear Ja Rule and Nas? Nas is tight and I can tolerate Ja’s part, but they only spit two verses and Ja says if Pac was here they’d probably ride together. I think Pac would be like “Stop biting me, cuz.” Oh yeah, Best, I understand that you are a Pac hater, but tell me, where would you place him when talking about all time greats? Top 5? Top 10? Holla.

The New and Still Untouchable

"They know about this ho I was fuckin named Cathy, heard she got busted with a bird in Tallahassee..." - Mr. Bigg

I think H3K should have an intro. I think what I'll do is post a wack ass lyric at the beginning of all my posts. Like that one from my new favorite song, TAKE THAT SHIT TO TRIAL!!!

LMAO @ 3:6queen... Yeah, it's Back vs. Willis again, but you know he don't want it with WILLIS! Ask Back, he don't want it with WILLIS... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Staying along with that Takeover line: Them Redskins don't want it with the Titans! Ask Spurrier, he don't want it with the Titans... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

And finally: Them rugby players don't want it with American football players! Ask Martin Johnson, he don't want it with American football players... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

H-3-K, he runnin this BACK BITCH, JEVON KEARSE say them Redskinnies gon get CLAPPED QUICK, THE WHOLE NFL says Martin Johnson will get zipped up in plastic and when it happens... THAT'S IT!

Ok, anyway, returning to the matters at hand, I'll welcome back Macka and Q (ask and ye shall receive). First things first, when the Redskins face the Titans, the Redskins will get done like a basketball if Mutumbo was your PG... CARRIED!!! Spurrier will get a rude awakening when them Titans bring that can of you know the rest and open it on them. Now back to the Ashantimeister, I'm not gonna say y'all are hating, but it seems as if her success bothers you all. I mean, she looks real good which is why everybody is on her anyway. Just like Beyonce, Aliyah, Brandy, Mya, Monica, etc. Secondly, her songs are gonna be good because A) she hangs out with Commerical Inc, oops, I mean, Murda Inc, and they are commercial and catchy, so, well, there you go B) her songs are remakes of VERY popular hip-hop songs, so there's really no way they can suck and C) did I mention she looks real good? So therein lies her success. She's no Whitney Houston, but she ain't Macy Gray either. It's bout that time for somebody to blow up anyway. Why not Ashanti? And come on Q, you know that nigga Sacario sounds just like Jay. And Q, I thought you was an English Journalism major? Why your posts be one long ass run-on PARAGRAPH? You supposed to know about breaks and indents or somethin!

Macka, I wouldn't say KRS-1 killed Nelly. I mean, Nelly isn't exactly a battle rapper, nor is he good. And KRS-1 isn't really good or a rapper anyone gives a rat's ass about. I can't believe this "beef" is hyped. But it was funny to read Nas go, "Nelly, you can't be Nas." If that isn't the understatement of the year. That's like BIG sayin the same thing to Lil Flip. If you don't know who Lil Flip is, then my point is made perfectly.

Yo, TDM, Qool is right. You was supposed to come back harder than that on Clarke B. The funniest thing dude said was "named after a ghost that ain't even scary..." LMAO! But Clarke B. was a one-diss wonder cause all his stuff after that was LAAAAAAAAAAME!!! Ja Rule and Pac? NEGRO PLEASE! I wish he could "ghostwrite" (get it?) a verse about Ja Rule because it would be basically Against All Odds II.

I finally got GTA3, y'all. Man, I'm lovin that game but I'm stalled in Staunton Island. Y'all cats check out Game Radio. And by the way, would one of y'all tell my mama to call my lawyer cause I'm gonna TAKE THAT TO TRIAL!!! (take that shit to trial, bitch, take that shit to trial, bitch, take that shit to trial...)

I'm out like Joe Pittman and Stephanie Maloof. Peace!

"Disgusting, but satisfying"-The feeling 'The Best' had when he got off Delta Airlines in Baton Rouge, Lousiana two days ago. Disgusting.....because I'm back DOWN HEAH, and have to put up with this extremely slow pace region, and listen to niggaz brag about how "tight" Project Pat's new ish is?....WTF....Satisfying....because I'm about to graduate this semester, I'm back with my fellow N.U.P.E.'s (YO YO), and Lousiana is the home of the most lavish creole shortys.

Now back to this thread. B2K, B2K, B2K are you for real son? Let me put it to you in terms that you can understand....2 Wack Shakur is garbage, he's a fabricated thug, the shit he spat about was simple, his lyrics-wordplay was extremely wack, all he ever did was spit about DYING, and his theory was to "rap for the BITCHES because they will buy your shit, and the niggaz will buy whatever the BITCHES are buying"-2 Wack on Thug Angels Uncut. Now you wanna barf about me gettin' all "excited" because Nas uses big words...WTF? I can see that duke's lyrics are a tad bit complicated for you, but he actually does cover more than DYING, and "ridin' on his ENEMIES while drinkin' on some HENESSEY" in his rhymes. Also, how is Pac only making 80G's irrelevant. Your nincompoop ass should be the last because aren't you the one that always talks about how much an artists sells or how much green they bringin' in. Prick, 2 Wack went DIAMOND with "All Eyes On Me", and he died with only 80 G'S. The nigga was blabberin' about all that "thug" shit and how he'll ride on niggaz, but in the mean time was gettin' FUCKED financially by his own niggaz on Death Row.....stupid mothafucka!! But back to his music. Tell me how do you consider Mr. Wack the "GREATEST"? Lyrically? Hell No, Musically? No, Emotionally? Maybe because he did do alot of hollaring....LMAO, but if that's the case then Ja Rule should be considered Great because he can scream his ass off. Also, like I said before Pac got FAMOUS off of his misunderstandings with Bad Boy Records. Before then, Pac released a cd full of lard ass in "Strictly 4 My Niggaz", and that was while he was in Brooklyn shooting for "Above The Rim", and NOBODY, I mean NOBODY was feelin him. This was also in '93/94 so you know what that means? Does the word ILLMATIC ring a bell? Dun, fuck it I'm tired of talkin' about this homo, he was a imitation thug, who was a BACKGROUND DANCER for Shock G and Digital Underground, got shot 5 times joined Death Row, and all of a sudden morphed into the "hardest" nigga on the face of the planet? FUCK OUTTA HERE!!

Next, B2K, you can vomit what you want about "your friends talking about a B2K concert blah blah blah"(niggaz be talkin' about B2K concerts......shakes head in utter disgust), but nigga the fact of the matter is that you have no LIFE outside this thread, and it shows in the conversations held with your friends. I know they be like "Adrian who gives a fuck".....and you be like "but guys, I swear you should come check it out, it's very entertaining." Oh and Rob....LMAO, the nigga came onto this thread talking about Wiz and I, but somehow you FOUND yourself into that dispute, just like you FOUND yourself in the one with Faye and myself. Don't get it wrong the nigga HATED on me because of my superior lyrical skills, and he bascially BASHED you because you had no business even ENTERING the shit if it didn't concern you. But, I'm going to take a linw from one of his final posts....."Best keep spitting, and Hillis keep swallowing"....I find that very amusing.

And really, I'm so concerned with you? Weren't you the one who pointed out me not responding to "Anny" after he kept giving me props on my verses. Seriously, I thought NO ONE would recognize that shit, but guess I was wrong. Once again, GET OFF OF MY SCROTUM. Also, to add to the humiliation, on the last thread Part 2 wasn't your last post something like "We have a new thread without Best HA!".....Damn, is it that hard for you to release me from your mind?

Oh and the "I was high smokin' so much la/ I saw a DEAD BIRD FLYING THROUGH A BROKEN SKY" quote. I don't know exactly what it means because I'm not NaS, but I have sources that either say that quote represents for how high of that spinach he was, or he was speakin on the tragic event of 9/11 on how the dead bird was the Airplanes and the broken sky was the left overs and smoke from the tarnished world trade center....HAPPY because you been asking me that for over a millineum now.

Oh and Big J, I'll battle him for the correct amount of paper, but he'll probably do it for free. Shyt his "All my life I been po/ but it really don't matter no mo" ass is broke anyway.

3:16, come on dawg you know "too pretty" is not for you dun.

And Q, I'll put Pac as #1 as the greatest "rapper"(basically meaning commercial because the nigga is the most popular and had the most exciting life), but emcee he'll be like top 100....No bullshittin', this dude just wasn't GREAT to me.

"FAKE THUGS/ no love/ you get the slugs// CB4 Gusto/ your luck low/ I didn't know 'til I was drunk though// YOU FREAK NIGGAZ PLAYED OUT"-portion of Nas's diss to Mr. 2 Wack Shakur

"Who's world is this?" - MVPee "The world is Hill's! The world is Hill's!" - Nasty Nas to Escobar "It's Hill's, it's Hill's, it's Hill's!" - MVPee's acquaintances

Who's world is this?

Damn, Whammy Man, the funniest part of your post was the fact that you even ADMITTED you don't know what Nas's quote meant, but you managed to come up with a cliched rambling about September 11th! NEGRO PLEASE! And in a close second is the fact that I would fight you "for free" since I'm "broke anyway!" WTF?! WTF?! WTC?! FUCK OUTTA HERE! If I was broke, why would I fight you for free, you sex nincompoop?! Is that some type of crazy Ebo-nic logic? lol

Look, Herb B, if you wanna rate Pac in your musical top 100, then fine. So b it. That's your right. But why the fuck do you keep bringin all of this IRRELEVANT PAC BASHING into the argument? Background dancer, 80Gs, thug image, and so on and so forth - WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HIS MC ABILITY???!!! Muthafucka, if Nas came out and said he loves to drink piss, I GUARANTEE your kanedroppin ass would find some way to justify it. I can't believe you would call Pac commercial, but when Nas does songs with Genuwine, J-Lo (first he wants to be Pac, but now he wanna be Ja Rule?), Jagged Edge, 3LW, Mariah Carey, etc. you call it a "financial move." You might be the ONLY STAN of Nas who would say he didn't fall off after It Was Written. And you would ignore the fact that Nas be all on PAC'S DECEASED DICK, and probably will try to "call it a financial move" now that he's joined with the EPITOME OF COMMERCIAL - MURDA STINK (PINK, FINK, JINX)! FUCK OUTTA HERE! Is there anything that Nas can do to convince you that his balls aren't as tasty you dream about every damn night?! Well, I'll answer my own question and say, "HELL NO!"

2PAC is the G.O.A.T. because of all the hits he produced and how he actually GREW into an extremely charismatic and talented MC and his albums reflected his growth as a musical artist. Yeah, I believe BIG was a better lyricist, and Nas may use bigger words, but his lyrics always had some meaning. You say all he rapped about was DYING and HENNESSY/ENEMIES, but I can say all Nas raps about is, well, absolutely NOTHING because you even admit his jumbled metaphors don't make any sense to you and probably about 80% of the hip-hop world cause he's rambling on and on about Medusa and the pearly gates! WHO GIVES A FLYING FLIKKERING FUCK???!!! When's the last time Medusa came after you with her snakes in her head? How many broken skies are there out there? Dead birds flying? When the FUCK does that ever happen? How about people laughing with Malcolm X's assassins? Or blood money in a pimp's cum? What the FUCK does that mean?! Oh, I get it, they're metaphors with a deeper meaning that NOBODY (probably even Nas himself) understands or NOBODY cares about!!! And then you throw his busted ass, "I sound like a 12 year old and can't show any inflection in my voice have and no stage presence" into contention with 2PAC, the fucking basis for 90% of these halfway rappers hardcore images and style on the mic. Who copies off of Nas? NO-FUCKING-BODY because no one wants to rap, sound, spit, or do anything remotely like him, because he is what WACK wants to be when it grows up. Fucking Nas is a big 5 foot 7 110 lb. barrel of monkey piss (stole that from The Rock) whose re-emergence is because of his beef with today's hottest rapper and rap label and pointers he took from Pac's style. I guess this nigga is all of a sudden so hard with his "semi-autos at Jay's cartilege" and "R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick" punk bitch ass who let Cam diss his dead moms and ain't said shit. F-A-G-O-L-O-U-S ass Nas. Don't get me started. I'll tell you like this: 93/94 does ring a bell. It's when Snoop, Dre, and Death Row and the West Coast was runnin rap with the gangsta image personafied in Compton. Didn't nobody outside of Queens, NY give a damn about Illmatic. And Nas's weak ass only became big after he STOLE Pac's beat for Street Dreams and Nas got his midget ass blasted on Makaveli. RAT BASTARD!!!

As for that Rob incident, I specifically said I entered the beef because he said "y'all niggas seem puss." I took that to mean that he was referring to everybody on thread, like even Kazper or 3:16 or whoever was flowin. I made it VERY clear I wasn't trying to defend you. And even so, you was still shoutin me out with your "That's right, Hillis, smash on these Eddie Kane Jr. ass niggas" or "Hillis, my nigga, get at these CRABS!" You was shoutin me out about how tight I was, and now you wanna act like I was just sayin your name only? BITCH PLEASE!!! You was givin me all the props in the world, dun. In fact, you was even givin Kazper props, and now you wanna call him down home and Blank Man and all that, so don't try to act like we wasn't on chill mode with this beef. And quit whinin about how I "entered" this "conversation" with Faye. It was in the damn thread for EVERYBODY to see, and she seemed pretty pleased with my response because she sure ain't whinin, "Oh Hillis, I wanted Best to answer." Don't be such a crybaby! Niggaz dealin with emotions like BITCHES!

Does "NA" stand for "not applicable?" LMAO!

And that whole thing with Manny was because I hate dickriders. I'm sorry, but I didn't particularly care for his every damn post Best this, Best that, and I made it known. Kind of like how Q made it known that he thought Mike was being my Stan. You act like folks can only make specific questions on here to one or two people. Dunny, if you come on here and post something, EVERYBODY will see it, and since this is a thread for discussion of opinions, I don't know why you get all "fart-laced" when somebody posts somethin. So I guess if someone in here came in here reading all of your Pac hating addressed to me, they have to be quiet with their opinion. FUCK OUTTA HERE!!! By following your fucked up P.U.P.E. logic, you have no reason answering my question about Eminem because when I asked it, I told you and everybody else on here that you was on a one month post ban from my million names. But you still went yakkity yak yak about Nas and brought up the overused "hennessy/enemy" GAABAGE. So again - FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!

The ones in krimson and kream are the faggotest... lol

I'm out like blood money in a pimp's cum. Peace!

"I'm Public Enemy without Chuck D" - MMMMMMMMMMMMME!

While I aint trying to get into the whole Hillis/MVP 2pac, Nas etc debate I am gonna say this. Pac IS overrated, but in a debate about the G.O.A.T, I would put him after BIG, Jay-Z, KRS, Big L etc. Oh yeah... and Nas. I'd say if it weren't for the mans charisma he'd be just another west coast rapper.

But it aint all against Pac. Nas would not have sold what he sold if it weren't for Jay-Z. In fact, Hova has kickstarted the whole of hip hop. I know you probably won't believe me but before he said "Ask Nas, he dont want it with Hove, NOOOOOOOOO!!!!" none of the following would be happening: Ja Rule vs DMX: Nelly vs KRS-1: Dibiase vs Jaz-O: Mobb Deep vs Jay-Z: Cam'ron vs Nas: Jermaine Dupri vs Dre/Timbo/Em: Scarface vs Jermaine Dupri: Jaz-0 vs Jay-Z/the ROC: Snoop Dogg vs Suge Knight/Xhibit/Tha Row: Cam'ron vs Stan Spit (damn this boy Stan Spit ripped Cam!): Juvenille vs Lil' Wayne etc etc etc etc...

I got to admit, Nas does sometimes speak a lot of shit when you hear him use long words to try to impress people, or things like the "dead bird" line, BUT he also does give out some nice spits. He gonna lose credibility on the street with real hip hop heads now he joined Murder Pink. Damn, dudes already put out a track with Ja and Ass-anti on the hook.

WAIT! Not one muthafucker on the new thread has shouted out the UK scene yet! WHY? Well lets just see about that then...

DJ Tim Westwood, So Solid Crew, More Fire Crew, Asher D, Romeo, The Streets, Black Twang, Lisa Maffia, Mystique, Roots Manuva (you know I can't forget Roots), Rodney P, Skinny Man, Mega Man, SAS, Miss Dynamite, New Town, Kamikaze, Beverely Knight, and finally... Shabzz.

Go, Go call your moms, tell her you wanna battle 3:16 quick/I bet the second you get home you'll get your ass whipped

Peace

"I play the bitch: It's just me here, officer, and I'm not dressed! And that guy sounds kinda dangerous, I hope you make an arrest!" - DMX

I guess I'll use just rap quotes in my intro that hit me in some kind of way - tight or wack!

Yo, 3:16, you're mad cool, and I respect your opinion, but I don't agree at all. I don't think you've made a decent case for any of those rappers. KRS-1 is so pathetic that he has to drum up a battle with Nelly. FUCKING NELLY! How much of a faggot are you that you have to ASK/BEG the hip-hop world to not buy Nelly's album?! Seriously, that might the gayest move I have ever seen. That's worse than Dame and the ROC tryin to keep Nas off all the radio stations. KRS-1 has had his day, and personally, he's not HOT at all and I don't think he ever really was. Big L... BIG L?! Who the fuck is Big L? I've never heard of him. Oh wait, he's one of those rappers who used to be decent way back when and a supposed pioneer like Rakim so we should respect his contribution even though he's wack. Jay-Z? Uh, I think Jay-Z should still be thankin Pac for giving him free publicity on Makaveli with his "Hawaiian Sophie fame" remarks. And since he supposedly payin homage to BIG, I guess he's pretty much doin the same for Pac when he's quotin him on 3 out of every 5 songs he comes out with now. Now BIG, I can listen to an argument that BIG is better than Pac on a lyrical level and I definitely think BIG was better on a purely lyrical level as well. But other than BIG, none of these wanna bes come close.

His charisma made him popular? Hardly. Charisma only takes you so far. Look at all the past fads that have come and go. You can't just get on stage and yell a couple of times and go Thug Life and just sell like he did. "All Eyez On Me" was so much better than any of today's rap it's just pitiful. I can ramble off at least 30 true hits of Pac and all those rappers you mentioned don't have 30 hits combined if you take out BIG. And no, I do NOT agree AT ALL that Hov is the reason for all of these beefs. These are nothing but Pac/Death Row/Bad Boy knock-offs who think people will pay attention to them as long as they diss somebody else. Punk ass Jay-Z never said SHIT to the Outlawz and Pac and now he wants to be all hard? Now he tryin to get brolic? NEGRO PLEASE (the negro being Hov, not 3:16)! Hov ain't got shit on what Pac did when it comes to beef. Hov and Nasty both have their disses and beef tactics HIGHLY influenced by 2Pac. So if you wanna say Jay and Nas are the reason behind it, you need to look at the reason behind they own beef. And that's none other than MR. MAKAVELI!

3:16, I just wanna know why you say KRS-1 and Big L are better than 2Pac. I mean, at least BIG and Jay and Nas all have different lyrical styles which I can see how their lyrics could be CONSIDERED better than Pac (and thus, them), but I have heard nothing from KrS-1 that just blows Pac away in the lyrics department. And Big L, I just wanna hear because, well, you said Big L!

I'm out like the Redskinnies will be on October 6 (ask Q about that - GO TITANS!). Peace!

"MVPee"-The term which B2K uses to address me as. I think this is the most original joke of all time. This shit is SO HILLARIOUS. I swear duke could be the G.O.A.T. comedian. He would easily surpass my fellow N.U.P.E. brother Ced the Entertainer, Steve Harvey, D.L. Hughley, and Bernie Mac as the KING OF COMEDY........you know what's coming next......I'M LYING!!

Well, today's the last day before the start of classes, so I thought I'd post because I'm not going to have any free time to post for a hot minute. Ya know I got a LIFE to live...LOL

Before I start to denounce this jerk, why is he using FRAT disses in this "dispute" because it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with fraternal issues? I swear I think you seriously HATE my frat. I mean what did they do to you, take your shorty? Talk about how you dress in front a crowd of broads? Are you angry because we get all the bitches? Get a grip dun, like I said before...."all men are created equal, but some just look better".....don't get furious at my fellow N.U.P.E.'s cause you're a Biz Markee looking ass nigga, it's not our fault that you ESCAPED your ma's vagina looking like that.

Now back to Mr. 2 Wack Shakur. I said that I wasn't going to speak on this ARTIFICIAL thug anymore, but I do have three things to say. Numero uno, you said that you CONSIDER him the G.O.A.T because he "GREW" into a quality "emcee". Explain to me what your wammy ass means by "GREW" because the only thing I witnessed was that that garbage ass dude transformed from this quiet, calm kid from BK, NY that spat about gay ish to a tatooed, slug filled, loud MOUTH, no mic skills having, prick who MAIN subjects of rhyming were......you should already know this. Numero dos, you seem kind of angry that I called your favorite rapper a FAKE thug. I mean it's only non fiction. Peep, this dolo knew who peeled him in the elevator of that recording studio in Brooklyn in '94, but NEVER addressed them. Instead he went after Mr. Christopher Wallace because he was becoming more successful than him with the release of "Ready to Die". He basically hated on BIG because he used his theory(go back to my last post to find out his theory), and was selling more records than him. Lastly numero tres, you can't just have CHARISMA and be the greatest because honestly that's all Pac had going for him. His lyrics/wordplay.....garbage, his story telling ability....garbage, his subject matter......garbage, his freestyle ability.....GARBAGE, his creativity....garbage(thug this, thug that, yeah yeah yeah what else is new), his METAPHORS....LMAO did he even spit any of these,
The nigga had 1 classic lp, and that was "The Seven Day Theory". Also, you wanna call me a Nas stan....WTF? Nigga aren't you the moron who said that "Until The End Of Time" was the best album of 2001.....ROTFLMAOATFJA!!!!!! That lp full of unreleased BULLSHIT couldn't touch "STILLMATIC" with a ten foot pole. I smell STAN like no other.

Moving right along, I've said this before, and I'll say it again. NAS NEVER FELL OFF, not in '99 not in '00, NEVER!! Fallin' off is when you're just not making any more quality music, when you come off extremely hot and you just can't do what you use to do. A perfect example of fallin' off is SNOOP D-O-doubleG!! Doggystyle was classic, but everything after that is pure wackness at it's best. Aight, you say that Nas fell off in '99? How did he fall off, when he was making UNRELEASED CLASSIC joints like "Blaze A 50", "Drunk By Myself", "Fetus Belly Button Window", "The Curse", "Amongst Kings", "Purple", "Poppa Was A Playa", "Day Dreamin, Stay Schemin", "Sometimes I Wonder" etc, etc....and also not to mention his numerous appearances on mixtapes, DJ Envy, Kay Slay, Clue, etc....Just because he didn't place these joints on "I Am" or "Nastradamus" doesn't mean that he didn't do them. You'll see when Nas's new lp "The Lost Tapes" drops 9/24, those are basically all the classic joints that were left off "I Am" and "Nastradamus". Damn, just because Jay said "you fell from top ten to not being mentioned at all" doesn't mean that Nas still isn't hot. Shit when Illmatic dropped, Nas wasn't even in the top 200 but he still was pronouced as the second coming of Rakim and got mad street acclaim and credibility. But you see your DOWN HOME "aint nothing like the country" ass wouldn't know anything about that because you niggaz don't hear shit from rap artists unless it's their lp, and that's what you have to judge him/her off of. You niggaz DOWN THEAH(well HEAH now since I'm in Baton Rouge) better get with the fucking program. Also, I'll give you credit for saying that Jay helped Nas, yeah, he helped him by forcing him to make one of the GREATEST diss tracks of all time, but as far as Stillmatic goes, the album would be classic without Ether. I don't even need to name all of the blazin' joints on that cd. And you say Jay is the hottest rapper?....Hardly...the nigga just collaborated with R. Rapist to make arguably the worst album EVER. And answer this, why is it that every interview Jay has done, Nas's name is brought up by him. I mean Jay just needs to let it go, HE LOST, the streets of NY voted fair and square, even though Angie Mar and Punk Master Sex tried to bamboozle the votes in favor of Jay. Jay is the hottest rapper out.....LMAO....Jay Z hasn't spat anything worth listening to since "Lyrical Excercise", and come on 3:16 that freestyle he had on Hot 97 was GARBAGE, the nigga was talking about how he was on "vacation learning how to swim"....WTF!? May I ask, why was he on vacation, and who forced him to go on vacation?....LOL. Also, how much weight is that quote Jay spat "you fell from top ten to not being mentioned at all" holding now? I'll tell you......NO pounds because Nas is fucking everywhere, collabin' with everybody, steady makin' hits, and about to drop two classics this year in "The Lost Tapes" and "God Sun". Lastly, Nas is NOT signed with Murder Stink. If you dudes listen closely to "The Pledge" remix, Nas spat something like "let my cash have sex with your cash"...basically saying he's AFFILIATED with them to make more loot because they can provide him with more freedom and promote him way better than Columbia can. Also, another reason why he's not SIGNED to Murda Stink is because he has reunited with long time friend, and manager of Columbia records Steve Stoute.

Aight, aight, I'm almost done, just got to address a couple of more issues. B2K, come on fag, ask anyone on this thread who repped who more you or me and I bet a G to your life, since that all it's worth that they say you have JOCKED the fuck outta me. Dun, don't get this shyt confused, I only gave you props because you were the thread ENEMY(thinks of 2 Wack while typing this...lol) of my thread ENEMY. Specifically, I was "disputing" with Rob, and you too were "disputing with him, so why not give your lame ass ROACH infested verses some inspiration eh? Hey speaking of ROACHES, why did you stop using that OVERUSED ass term in your wack ass spits anyway? And you say you hate dickriders? Then you should dispise yourself, don't you think? And you can make all the excuses about you not caring about Manny shouting me out, but you,I, and every vet on here know that it hurt your dear little feelings to see him pronounce me the best lyricist on this thread. That shit was killing you softly....LOL Oh yeah you seemed to address everything in your last post except for the fact why you made that statement in your last post on Part two saying something like "We have a new thread without Best HA!!" What was that for? I get it, you can't wait to see me post, or respond to you, and if I'm away from this thead for a couple of days/weeks you get all gassed and jealous that I'm doing something else than posting on here, and start typin shit that makes no sense at all.

I'm out like a.....I'm lying

...wait no I'm not......like a fine ass broad after B2K tries to get at her.

"My notepad is so supreme, with LETTERS like DAVID MAN"-MVP

"Another hard headed nigga who didn't listen so he got what he came for... (what's that?) SURGERY! With the chainsaw!" - DMX

"MVP" - Best's new nickname that is highly original. No one has ever used the term MVP to refer to himself. Best is the epitome of original with that nickname. "B2K" - Best keeps referring to me as this because he made it up. He didn't steal it from Qoolout. He thought of it all by himself and he should be applauded, again, for his originality. "INA or ANA" - letters Best usually uses to form highly thought out and clever nicknames for his foes (i.e. Steve-ina or Robbre-ana). By adding these letters he makes the names feminine. No, niggaz did NOT use to do that in third grade. Again Best should be applauded, for a third time, for his uncanny ability at clever originality................. I'm not lying.

*pause for the entire thread's stunned gasps*

I WAS JUST BULLSHITTIN! AND YOU KNOW THIS! MAN!!!

Come on Kaptivateina, you know you don't want it with Hillis. Ask yourself, you don't want it with Hillis... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Unlike you, I will address all your moronic questions/issues (unlike you who can't seem to read and address normal questions). I stopped using the term "roach" because I stopped beefing with Kazper. Pretty simple, huh, jackass? And the props went 50/50 cause when you gave me some, I gave em back. You was the one asking me what I wear, and tellin me about what you was gonna pledge, and talkin about all that stuff. And you was comin to my defense when Rob questioned why I asked you about the Lakers purple and gold color. And I remember Rob mentioned how both of us kept "stroking" each other. So don't bring up Rob unless you gon bring up all of what he said, F-A-G-O-L-O-U-S ass nigga. You was addressin me, too, Nchekwubeana. Don't get the proverbial "it" twisted, dun. And since we're bringing up Rob for some strange reason, I remember when he said that this thread was so dear to your heart. So you get ZERO POINTS for using his whole argument. FUCK OUTTA HERE with this HORRIBLE "no life" GAABAGE! FUCK OUTTA HERE! FUCK OUTTA HERE! Now you sayin my verses were really lame when you was givin me props on all my "roach infested" lines... YAWN! Boo, Morrisana. Boo. That's just a weak move. Really, that's just lazy. You know what's up. I have mad wordplay and I lace my bars together quite nicely. Hmmmmm... who said that? (It was him! Who? Who said it?) THE BEST MUTHAFUCKAS!!! LMAOROTFLATLJJKJAGSJHAS!!!

P...R...I...C...K...A...N...A... it's just like 3:16 saying he was feeling me on the first board and not you. It's a damn thread! Everybody can see what everybody else writes and we ALL can write on what is posted, KOCKBLOWER! And why did you respond to my Eminem statement since you know I wasn't talking to you? Can you answer that? W-A-S-I-T-S-O-M-E-T-H-I-N-G-I-S-A-I-D???!!!

Dun, go check the old board and get it CORRECT before you start trying to bring it up "in herre." Manny was NOT pronouncing you the nicest lyricist. All he was doing was over and continuously saying "Qool, you cheerleader, you got roasted by Best." He would diss me, Lox, and Q, and ALWAYS go, "Qool, you got roasted by Best, blah, Best, Best, Best." And that shit got old to me, and I let it be known. And at that time, we was chillin with beef so I gave you props JUST LIKE YOU DID ME NUMEROUS TIMES! In fact, Manny actually pronounced YOURS TRULY the flyest after my Round 3 verse that had you FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMED!!! And that reading English thing is really hard on you. You said yourself you need to back to English 101. Dunny, I said "May we all enjoy ourselves on the new thread... except for Best." P...R...I...C...K, if you came or not was irrelevant. My point in that statement was for you not to enjoy yourself. HA! And it was a SIDE JOKE anyway, because I don't care if you enjoy yourself or not. What you eat don't make me shit and it costs me nothin to pay you no mind and etcetera, etcetera. See, Bestina, reading is FUNdamental!

Good "LAWD" man! Why are you still CRYING/BOOHOOING/SOBBING about all the Kappa cracks? First, I'm not supposed to diss you cause I'm not in a frat. Now, I can't cause it's irrelevant. WTF?! WTF?! Is there some sort of list/criteria for clownin your sorority? FUCK OUTTA HERE! Bitch, get over it! I won't stop calling you a kockblowin kanedroppin P.U.P.E. just like you won't stop droppin your kane at every step show. And, dun, two of the fellas on my Ether squad were Nupes, so I don't have nothing against Kappa Alpha Psi. But you're just a sex nincompoop-ina who happens to be a Kappa, so I klown you about your frat because I just don't like YOU.

Dun, you keep saying OVER AND OVER AND OVER that I tell my friends to check out this site. It sounds to me (and this is H3K's honest opinion) is that you actually DID that, and your boys weren't feelin you, so now you tryin to use they same jokes against me. Corny bastard. Oh, and that Marcus cat. Is he your boy? Or is he really your boo? (copyright Qoolout). See how I quote the source, NON-DEBATED THIEF?

Now that I got the "klown this klown" section out of the way, let's move to your favorite CRAPPER, Nasty Nas To Esco-ho, now he is still GAABAGE! Dude, really, this "mixtape" NONSENSE has got to stop. I mean, these mixtapes you mention aren't what we're SUPPOSED to judge these rappers by. Mixtapes are basically samples or letting you know who's hot or would be hot when they album drop. So mixtapes only take the best of an artist and PURPOSELY leave out the bad. So of course, someone will sound good on a mixtape because it's a marketing ploy. But their LP is the reflection of the time they actually put into producing their music. An LP is supposed to be the epitome of that artist's work. 13 to 14 tracks that let the WORLD know (not just you corny mixtape drool boys) their stand as a musician. So when an LP flops (like Nastradamus) then we definitely have a right to judge that artist by that LP. Why the fuck would I judge an artist off a couple of underground tracks?! That's like judging a nigga off of one or two collabos. NEGRO PLEASE! And come on, P.U.P.E.I.N.A, out of all those underground tracks of Nas you named only "Blaze A 50," "Drunk By Myself," and "Fetus" were any good. And he still fell off cause compare his progression as an artist, you will see that he just got worse and worse. Illmatic to It Was Written to I Am to Nastradamus. I mean, he's moving backwards, dun! Whereas Pac dropped a CLASSIC in Me Against The World. See, "duke" don't get all flamed because YOU didn't like Pac. To deny that Me Against The World is a CLASSIC is just pure and unbridled stupidity. As much as I don't think Nas is all that good, I would NEVER say that Illmatic wasn't classic. I don't like "One Mic" ONE BIT! But I'm not so blinded by utter HATRED like yourself as to just say it's crap because I personally don't like it. You see, Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me Disc 1, All Eyez On Me Disc 2, The Seven Day Theory. You see how 2Pac PROgressed, and didn't REgress? There's a difference, D.U.P.E.A.N.A. He didn't fall off and wait until Memphis Bleek and Jay-Z came calling with beef before he decided he wanted to put out good LPs. He didn't need a Jogga to boost his weak ass career. Pac had acclaim WAY before he started "hating" on Mr. Wallace. Dukeana, just because he blasted your town is no reason to come up with all these reasons he wasn't that great. Every Pac hater I've ever met is from some part of NY. Every one. And dun, you say all Pac did was ride on his enemies, and beg the Lord not to die. "All About U" "Skandalouz" "Brenda's Got A Baby" "White Man's World" "Hold Ya Head" "My Block" "So Many Tears" "Keep Ya Head Up" "Shorty Wanna Be A Thug" "How Do U Want It" "Blasphemy" "Thug Passion" "oss It Up" "California Love" "To Live And Die In LA" and I don't really need to go on even though there are WAY more songs that illustrate my point. Thug Life, 2Pacalypse Now, and Strictly were not up there with Illmatic, but I GUARANTEE they blow Nastra-fucking-damus out of the water! And even if Pac DID do those same two topics, he still did more in this game than Nas could ever dream about doing. Like I said, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and these rap niggas imitate BIG and PAC, but no one (except for AZ) copy off of Nas. And play dumb all you want - WE ALL KNOW YOU SEE HOW NAS'S RECENT BEHAVIOR IS INFLUENCED BY 2PAC!

And all your Pac's lyrics were weak nonsense is just babble. Look, I and most normal people say things like, "I am mad" or "I wanted to kill that muthafucka." Just because Nas might say, "The fury in my soul was like the flames of a thousand forest fires" or "I plotted to bring forth the demise of my antagonist" is no reason to get them pussy lips a-drippin! 2Pac articulated what he (and many niggas) felt in laymen's terms and that is why he gets props on his lyrics. No, he didn't utilize metaphors. Lyrics don't always equal metaphors. Did Nas use any metaphors in "Blaze A 50?" Fuck no! They weren't needed. Pac didn't need metaphors for his lyrics to get across and he didn't need big, huge, 16 letter words like you want! Hennessy/enemies was a Pac trademark, true, but it's no different from Nas screamin "Escobar" or "Nas the Nasty" in all his tracks. And by the way, like I said, all Nas raps about is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING because most of his songs are some incoherent collection of unimpressive metaphors and assimiles.

And I (and everyone else) KNEW you would find some way to gloss over the fact that Nas is runnin with Murda Pink. I thought the nigga didn't care about paper? I thought all that was watered down? Now, it's all about the figures, but if Jay is about paper he's watered down, ice, bling, fad, MTV, BET, etcetera, etcetera. You see, Nasty's Stan-ana, ANYTHING Nas does is all right with you. Faggoty-ass (copyright Big J) collabos, kickin it with the essence of commercial, droppin wack albums, using another nigga to regain your footing in rap, HATING on Nelly (why the fuck he had to say Nelly's name? another wack nigga using Nelly for their own publicity. That's "sofa king" GAY!), Cam, Noreaga (NORE sucks, true, but why he had to say somethin? And ain't he on NORE's album?) because Hot 97 wouldn't let him perform Ether like he wanted. You're pathetic! I bet if Nas came in here and read all the things you say, I think he'd get a restraining order on you!

I agree, Snoop went from Doggystyle to the essence of wackness. But what's your point. Nas didn't fall AS HARD as Snoop, but he still fell, Stanley.

Leaving off Stillmatic, please name all the albums of 2001 that you believe were better than Pac's Until The End Of Time.

MVPeeina, it's obvious you want me to flow on you, BUT ARE YOU WORTH THE FEROCIOUS BARS???!!!

I'm out like Malcolm X's assassins. Peace!

OK OK! Here we go Hill. I cant remember what the track KRS did but theres one where he spits for about a minute with no background track and no beat, I never heard Pac spit anything like that. And when I put KRS in the G.O.A.T category, I put him in there for what he has done BEFORE, same with Nas. NOT the Greatest of NOW time.

But wait, here we go...

"I'm not a musical maniac or b-boy fanatic/I simply made use of what was upstairs in the attic/I've listened to these MC's back when I was a kid/But I bust more shots than they ever did/I mean this is not the best of KRS, it's just a section/But how many times must I point you in the right direction/You need protection, when I'm on the mic/Because my mouth is like a 9 millimeter windpipe/You're a king, I'm a teacher/You're a b-boy, I'm a scholar/If this was a class, well it would go right under drama/See kings lose crowns but teachers stay intelligent/Talkin big words on the mic but still irrelevant/Especially when you're not, college material/Wake up every morning to your Lucky Charms cereal/DJ Scott LaRock has a college degree/Blastmaster KRS writes poetry/I won't go deeper in the subject cause that gets me bored/It's a shame to know some MC's on the mic are fraud/Sayin styles like this to create a diss/But if you listen, who you dissin?/See I am a musician/Rappin on the mic like this to me is fine/Cause if I really want to battle I will put out a nine/You can see that Scott LaRock and I are mentally binded/In other words we're both Criminal Minded" - KRS-1 on Criminal Minded

BUT WAIT!!!! Dun, I got you a Big L spit. It aint L's best, but its from a track called M.V.P, so I thought it was appropriate...

Aiyyo spark up the phillies and pass the stout/Making quick money grip before your ass is out/In a street brawl, I strike men quicker than lightnin/You seen what happened in my last fight friend? Aight then/L's a clever threat, a lyricist who never sweat/Comparing yourself to me is like a Benz to a chevrolette/And clown rappers I'm bound to slay/I'm saying hi to all the cuties from around the way/Yeah, cause I got all of them sprung Jack/My girls are like boomer-rangs/No matter how far I throw them, they come back/I'm coming straight out the N.Y.C./I'm down with diggin in the crates/And I'm M.V.P. yeah! - Big L on MVP

If you want to look at some real tight shit take a look at "Ebonics"

Oh yeah, and I took a random verse from Pac.... HEEEEEERE WE GO. from "Street Fame" on "Thug Life vol.1"

Rollin the fat Jaguars with my nigga P blowin up/Time comin back sippin Henessey/Seventeen years old and I felt like God mad rich/And I had my pick of any fine bitch/And my family was known to be great, seen slightly more/Representin no matter who sets it on/Street power, why you niggaz flip and you thug shit/I be bout my motherfuckin grip, nothin else/gets between me and mine, just remember that/Damn it's a shame, but still I'm in the game/I'm tryin to get street fame

It aint very good is it Hill.

"Cause I be kickin the real/While they be losin the race tryin to chase mass appeal" - My man Guru, who I WOULD have to put in the GOAT debate

Peace

In the midst if all this beefs talk between Hillis and Best. I came across something Hillis said to 3:16, and it was about Big L. I couldn't let you diss my man Big L without letting me address it. I respect your opinion and all, but to say "He was an old school rapper" is far from being on point. I can't persuade you to like him, but he was the most underrated rapper in his lifetime. He was about to blow up right before his death. As a matter of fact ya boy Jay was on his dick and ready to sign him on to the Roc. Big L put Jay on his first album when he was still rappin like a wannabe Fu-Snikkens. And on top of that ripped the shit out of him on that same song Da Graveyard. His era was in the mid to late nineties, and he has more influences than you think. Cam'ron would still be a skinny B-Ball player with hoop dreams, and Mase also. I wish you could have been in New York at that time because everyone who bought a bootleg of the "Children of the Corn" CD got to see Murder Mase and Killa show their skills before commercialism got to them. This guy was a true lyricists, and you couldn't name one rapper, that didn't respect Big L. From 1995 to 1999 he gained more respect than most established rappers. Here is his verse from Ebonics which the source even had to give their props to:

Yo, pay attention
And listen real closely how I break this slang shit down

Check it, my weed smoke is my lye/
A ki of coke is a pie/
When I'm lifted, I'm high/
With new clothes on, I'm fly/
Cars is whips and sneakers is kicks/
Money is chips, movies is flicks/
Also, cribs is homes, jacks is pay phones,
Cocaine is nose candy, cigarettes is bones/
A radio is a box, a razor blade is a ox,
Fat diamonds is rocks and jakes is cop/
And if you got rubbed, you got stuck,
You got shot, you got bucked/
And if you got double-crossed, you got fucked/
Your bankroll is your poke, a choke hold is a yoke,
A kite is a note, a con is a okey doke/
And if you got punched that mean you got snuffed,
To clean is to buff, a bull scare is a strong bluff/
I know you like the way I'm freakin' it,
I talk with slang and I'ma never stop speakin' it/.

Here is the one from Da Graveyard

Big L be lightin' niggas like incense/
Gettin' men lynched to win tits/
I'm killin' infants for ten cents/
Cause I'm a street genius with a unique penis/
Got fly chicks on my dick that don't even speak English/
I'm makin' ducks shed much tears/
I buck queers/
I don't have it all upstairs but who the fuck cares?/
I'm grabbin' brews takin' fast swiggas/
I get cash and stash figures and harass them bitch ass niggas/
After you you're gonna get scared next/
And if ya squad flex/
I'm lettin' off like Bernard Getts/
A tech nine is my utensil/
Fillin' niggas with so much led they can use they dick for a pencil/
I'm known for snatchin' purses and bombin' churches/
I get more pussy on accident then most niggas get on purpose/
I got drug spots from New York to Canada/
Cause Big L be fuckin' with more keys than a janitor/.

"Bitch, my mother ain't no ho! Bitch, my mother ain't no ho! Bitch, my father ain't no ho! Why you try to play me like a ho?" - Juvenile

Top of the line logic from Cash Money's former leading man... lol But anyway, I got a lil somethin, somethin for a mixtape of y'all that gon be produced by my #1 DJ H*WOOD! (even though he kind of challengin me on this Big L thang...)

"Uh, uh, uh, 3-K, murda BEST, HILLIS at the DOOR/DOWN SOUTH we bring many, many KILLAS when we WAR//call himself "The Best" but his style don't REFLECT IT/the apparant BITCH IN YOU is "Common"ly DETECTED//since you don't know me, all the STOLEN "get a life" GAABAGE is UNEFFECTIVE/DA SOUTH is UNCONTESTED while DA EAST is MissTaken and MissDIRECTED//this nigga lyrically weak with a flow sweeter than CHEESCAKE/dun, step into my bureau of flowin, and let me BITCH SLAP YOU WITH MY BRIEFCASE!"

WHOA! And that's just the mixtape version of the diss! A lil snipit of the heat I COULD bring! WHOA! Look for that mixtape H*WOOD is droppin featurin that lil ferocious "freestyle" by myself and a couple of hidden Big L tracks! WHOA!

Moving right along...

Look, Big H, I respect Big L and all, but "about" to blow up is pure hearsay. He didn't blow up, as you say, and as long as we bringin in folks bringin him props and stuff, we all know Pac is #1 in the "receives props from other rappers." And, no lie, that first verse you posted was really average. A car is a whip, a purse is a handbag, etectera, etcetera. That's not tight. The second verse was better, but it's not that good in written form only. Now I'm not gonna bash Big L, but I WILL say that he is NOWEHERE near 2Pac. That was my sole point.

Why is everybody posting "bad" verses from Pac to prove a point? Damn, I NEVER said Pac ONLY wrote good verses. I said he's the G.O.A.T. I say when it comes to hoops, Michael Jordan is the GOAT. That doesn't mean he made every shot, always won a championship or MVP, led the league in scoring, or generally did everything right and nothing wrong. Jordan had his flaws, of course (like ALL humans), but when it came down to it in hoops, he did things right more than anyone else and has the stats to prove it. Now with Pac, I'm sayin he's the GOAT. Big L ain't better than Pac. He didn't do what Pac did as an MC, musician, artist, etc. so you can post every verse he wrote and all of Pac's "bad" verses, and Big L will never be the GOAT. "About" to blow up is just not gonna cut it. Now, I can't even believe KRS-1 is in this debate. When your time has passed, you either accept it, or try and make a comeback. Now, if you make this comeback, you CANNOT ride another nigga's success (ESPECIALLY in a negative way) and expect any respect. So fucking what, KRS-1, you'll probably win this "battle" (the "Has Been" versus the "Black Justin Timberlake") against Nelly. Big FUCKING deal! Pac was beefin with Big, Nas, Jay, Dre - real heavyweights - and KRS-1 decides to beef against FUCKING Nelly? Look, KRS-1, Eminem already beefs with pop acts (and no one cares). Em's not really serious, though. This "HOT" (lol... that shit SUCKED) wanna be is protesting Nelly's album. Is he serious? But I guess, that's really irrelevant to the topic. Or is it? Anyway, you're right you'll never hear Pac spit like KRS-1 because KRS-1 was different (not better), but when it came to puttin an actual song ON WAX (not just typin em out) there is NO WAY you can compare his skills to Pac's. I'm not so much into postin lyrics (songs get put ON WAX and therefore, you don't get the REAL effect), but I'll post some Pac lyrics that KRS-1 nor Big L could touch:

"So mandatory my ELEVATION my lyrics like ORIENTATION/so you can be more familiar with the nigga you FACIN//we must be based on nothin better than COMMUNICATION/known to damage and highly flamable like gas STATIONS//sorry I left that ASS WAITIN/no more PROCRASTINATION give up to fate, and get that ASS SHAKIN//I'm bustin and makin motherfuckers PANIC/don't take ya life for GRANTED, put that ass in the dirt, you swear the bitch was PLANTED//my lyrics motivate the PLANET/it's similar to Rhythm Nation, but Thugged Out, forgive me JANET/who's in CONTROL? I'm activatin ya SOUL/you know, the way the game's gettin TOLD, yo//two years ago, a friend of mine/told me Alize and Cristal blows your mind//bear witness to the dopest fuckin rhyme I wrote/takin off my coat, clearing my throat..."

That's his verse off of "Got My Mind Made Up" and KRS-1 can't fuck with the wordplay. It does get kind of corny at the end with the Alize part and the clearin my throat part, but it's still tighter than anything KRS-1 ever spit ON WAX! And I've got arsenal of hits. I won't ramble them off in this post, but if you want to me name the countless tracks that are standouts (for some reason you claim there were only a "few" and you STILL didn't clarify which were his supposed standout tracks), I don't mind. I'm not really debating that Pac was the best lyricist. Don't get me wrong; to me, he was REAL good, but I'm not saying he's the best. However, as a rapper as a WHOLE (not just lyrics, but lyrics AND delivery AND impact AND sales AND popularity - basically everything that makes up a COMPLETE artist, and he died ALREADY blown up (unlike Big L) and without trying to to cling to his past status (like KRS-1).

And that's enough knowledge dropped for today, class. I'll be back to address anymore posts about Pac or music in general, ya taste me?

I'm out like most folks will be from an airport this upcoming September 11th. Peace!

"Used to be a stand up nigga, now you sit down to aim" - The real G.O.A.T, Young Hova, William H, Jigga Man, Jay-Z!

Hill, c'mon dawg! you talking like Nelly is the only person KRS had beef with! He aint battled anyone apart from Nelly the elephant recently cos nobody will step to him. DON'T YOU REMEMBER WHEN KRS-1 DESTROYED QB!

Dude, I'm saying Pac had more bad verses than good ones. You know it took you a long time to find that spit above right... right... right

And I'm wit Hollywood J on this Big L thang. In fact NO, I'm not. L WAS blowing up when he died. One more year and he would have been in the established elite.

"JAZ-O, JAZ-O RECORDS IN STORES. JAZ-O VIDEO CURRENTLY PLAYING VT... uhhh. YOU HAPPY NOW JOHNNY? YOU SOLD A COUPLE OF RECORDS?"

Nothin else to say man.

Peace

Hillis you have a point, Pac was more established, and popular than Big L is. But your opinion can only justify who and what you like. I rate rappers based on their skills not by others that are mentioned in that category. The best way to describe what I'm saying is, when Halley Berry and Denzel won the Oscar this year, you never heard people compare them two, to the previous winners last year. Even though they were selected as the two best actors. That is how I rate them, not by the people who came before them or on the list, but on their own level, and their own lyricism at that time. And even though that verse from "Ebonics" wasn't a lyricist dream. It was a concept that people rarely use, and more so than a hidden message, or a bunch of metaphors, sex, pushin weight etc. It was a concept that people haven't seen on a regular bases, and that is why it has been so critically acclaimed. You see what I'm saying? That is why "Fetus Belly Button Window" gets so many props for it's concept, not necessarily for it's wordplay, or how it looks on paper. Concepts and new ideas, sometimes outshines the lyrics.

1st things 1st. KRS better than Pac, 3:16? Dogg, are you serious? H-Wood, Big L, should not even be in the debate. And Best you put Pac at 100 in All time Greats? I can't say Hollywood is hating; maybe just mistaken. But 3, and B, y'all clearly have deep hate for this man, as if he did something to you personally. Well, just the way I see it.

Anyway, my two cents: Best, if you don't like Pac I can accept that. But how can you hype Nas 24-7 and not admit that he copied or at least gives Pac props on the regular? You think he would have done the Hate me Now Video if it wasn't for Pac? You think he would have done the so-called GVOAT (according to you) if it wasn't for Pac (Got Ur Self a Gun)? My question is, if Pac is so fake and weak and blah blah blah, what does that make Nas (a man who clearly likes Pac's work)? "Ether," the best diss ever? I disagree, but let's say it's one of the best? Did it remind you of any other diss? Come on Best, no disrespect, but you are pretending like Pac didn't influence your man Nas. Face the facts. My sources say that Nas loved Pac's style; face the facts. And I never heard of any diss made by Nas where Nas calls Pac out; it's the otherway around? You gonna have to post the name and the complete song, or at least tell me where I can read the lyrics. And yeah Pac’s last CD was unrealeased work...wasn’t Nas’ last one unreleased too? Are you saying it should have been a collection of his already released work? Explain.

3:16, KRS? What has cuz done lately? That's right, nothing. I give all the old school rappers props for paving the way, but when the game passes you by, the truth is evident. Plus he ain't even kill Nelly like he should have, or have a reason to step to him in the 1st place. Let's get it str8. When this thread 1st kicked off, I hated Nell with a passion. Now he still ain’t one of my favorite rappers, but he is featured in a total of three (3) songs that I like, so I’m gonna admit that much. But if KRS was so great, he would have roasted Nelly. He asked the world to boycott Nelly and y’all saw how much the world listened. K-R needs to hang it up (Rakim too). I know I said I wasn’t gonna post any more words from Nelly, but this is so true and funny, I have to share it. "I think he’s a hypocrite (KRS); he’s always bashing commercial rap, but wasn’t he MR. Sprite?" How you gonna let Nelly tell the truth on you like that? Pac is dead and gone and still putting out tight, meaningful, deep songs. If you don’t like him say so, but to ACT like he is on the level of those UK rappers you shouted out in the last post, is just wrong.

H-Wood, like Hillis said, bout to blow up is not blown up and how do you know? Everybody that spits is one hit away, so that doesn’t impress me. And the Oscars don’t impress me either. Like I’ve been saying about many other things, the Oscars are bias. I’m glad Haley and Denzel won because their movies were tight. But two blacks winning doesn’t mean a thing to me when Jim Cary probably has won plenty of times for his STUPID movies. I could careless about an Oscar because the process isn’t a fair one. When you say you don’t compare Big L to the rest, that’s not a fair rating. And what are you all using as a scale? Sales? No, Pac beat them all in that. Most Fans? Can’t be that either, because Pac had them from coast to coast, even after he dissed NY. Maybe y’all are goin off of memorable songs. Well, to be honest, I couldn’t name a Big L or KRS song if my life depended on it. I’ll go song to song with anybody on here if need be. Meaning you post some tight lyrics by your favorate rapper and I’ll post some tight joints by Pac and we will see who runs out 1st.

Lastly Hillis, Ashanti is not "finer" than any of them people you named; they all got her beat. Maybe she got Brandy, but she surely ain’t a better singer, plus Brandy gets points from me because of those lips, but that’s neither here nor there, lol. The girl is no more skilled than people who are trying to break into the record biz. She can sing, but I’m saying people act like she is the next Mariah or Whitney and she is far far from that. Furthermore, the Titans will get thrashed by them Skins. Number 56 is not human, cuz...ask your QB after the game. Y’all don’t want it (you must be blunted). And cuz does sound like Jay, but I ain’t notice it until you mentioned it. You like the un-indented paragraphs?

The New and Untouchable

Let me put it all out in front so you guys can understand where I'm coming from. First off Qool, and Hillis I'm not comparing Pac to Big L. I am just stating that Big L was underrated, you must have had me confused with 3:16 because I never said Big L was in the greatest category nor did I say he was greater than Pac. I was just defending Big L on the account that Hillis said something's I didn't agree with. Second the "About to blow up" thing, you guys seem to not take seriously. I think you guys are downplaying Big L too much. Qool be serious the reason you can't name a Big L track is simply because he was underground. I mean damn it wasn't like the nigga was internationally known and shit, I was surprised that 3:16 even knew who he was. I wouldn't expect you either to know his shit since his first record was pretty much unheard of and that unreleased LP that came out in 2001 went silent. But the Oscar thing you took waaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. I was just making an example on how most people rate rappers based on other rappers and how they measure up to them (Like this whole Nas vs. Pac thing). When I rate them just on their own talent individually. I wasn't trying to use the Oscar as a way to rate music at all. I don't use Fan base, sales, or whatever commercial artist (Yes Pac was a commercial artist), or fans use to rate as the best. I use a scale where I rate them on their talent and how they sound as individuals. I don't treat artists as if it is a beauty pageant where they compete against each other in categories until a winner is crowned. I just look at them, for their talent, lyricism and their individuality. That is what I look for in artist, and why I am into more underground shit, because that other stuff about fan base, and sales is irrelevant to me. If you are good, you are good I don't need to compare soundscan numbers to see that. And I like a challenge so lets compare Big L and Pac lyrics and sees where it goes.

"Holla my name and witness game official; it's so sick! Have every single bitch that came wit you... on MY dick!" - 2PAC

QS, the spaces between the paragraphs was "qool" but I guess I like the old style of run on paragraphs better because that's Qool's Trademarks... lol But I'm mad at you two niggas mispelling HALLE BERRY'S name! And have y'all actually seen Monster's Ball? I love Halle but she got that Oscar for being half naked on screen and fuckin a white guy. But Billy Bob wasn't hittin right... And H*WOOD, I agree that Halle and Denzel won all on their own talent, irregardless of past winners; however, if we are talking about the best of the Oscar winners, then you have no choice but to compare. And I hardly call Pac commercial. Popular, yes, but commercial? No! Commercial (to H3K) means that you see what has already worked and you follow that formula and that's your only claim to success. However, Pac had actual skill and did his own thing, which is why he was so popular. Of course Pac probably peeped game from the oldheads before him, but ultimately he wasn't same cheap knockoff of what was already popular.

3:16, I also disagree that 2Pac had more bad verses than good. If you wanna clown his earlier work, then you pretty much have to clown Hova's earlier work, too. And Hova is hardly the GOAT. That nigga has one classic album in Volume 2, true, but Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint are just real good. Volume 3 was a disappointment, and Volume 1 sucked! So did The Dynasty and Best of Both Worlds. I knew it was gonna suck before R-A-P-I-S-T Kelly got into trouble. So for every "bad" Pac verse you wanna type, I'll type two good ones and I WILLis NOT LOSE!

H*WOOD, I agree that comin up with new concepts is tight - Nas is real good at doin that (Undying Love, Rewind, Blaze A 50) - and Big L does get a few props on the concept thing, but the concept can only go so far. I mean if Nelly had come up with the Rewind idea, I don't think the song would have been tight. And like I said, Big L's lyrics weren't that tight on that song.

3:16, who is QB? Exactly! If Qool couldn't name a Big L or KRS-1 verse to save his life, then I'd die a long, torturous death if my life depended on noting a QB verse. But that isn't fair. I'm sure beating QB is respectable, but still... FUCKING NELLY?! Hell to the naw, man. Hell to the naw.

"Trashanti" is still fine. Nowhere near Aalyiah, Monica, or Beyone of course, but fine nonetheless. And I see you noted Brandy's lips (lol). Are them some DSLs? LMAO! Anyway, she is an average/decent singer, but she is fine and therefore, she will create a buzz. Sad, but true.

Mama call my lawyer cause it's time to go to trial! It's time to go trial! It's time to go to trial!

I'm out like takin that shit to trial. Peace!

READ CAREFULLY: Just becasue Nas, "likes" 2 Wack or considers him a great, doesn't mean that I, Nchekwube like Mr. 2 Wack. I think that he is garbage, and that's just my personal take of that background dancer turned thug.

"Dun, don't make me bring you into my office of judging MCs and beat you with my briefcase!" - B2K on 8/5/02

"this nigga lyrically weak with a flow sweeter than CHEESCAKE/dun, step into my bureau of flowin, and let me BITCH SLAP YOU WITH MY BRIEFCASE!"-B2K on 8/28/02

......right, so how long have you had these "freestyles" planned out. DAMN, you've been plottin' out a diss to get at me since the fifth of August.......YOU ARE PATHETIC....AND ONCE AGAIN GET OFF OF MY SCROTUM. Also, were you feelin' more emotional on the 28th because you changed "beat" to "BITCH SLAP", and then on top of that you capitalized the last portion.....LMAO!! Dawg, I'm not going to say this shit again.......GO PURCHASE A LIFE!!

Oh yeah "playa", is it me or does those bars you "spat" on the 28th look exactly like these....."imagine a British emcee, this herb's more sweeter than fruitcake/ Step into my office of rhymin', so I can beat you with my suitcase"-MVP on 7/20/02....I don't know, but they almost look IDENTICAL.....hhhmmmmmmm

And are you serious.....you placed a ban on me....LMAO...LMAO...LMAO!! Who pronounced yo Otis Thorpe lookin ass the moderator of this thread. And weren't you the prick talking about this is an open thread, and you can address whoever you please. Dun, seriously, you need to get with the fukking program. If you're going to be on this mothafucka EVERYDAY at least come correct with a nigga.

Now Q, Nas spits NOTHING like 2 Wack. They're are on complete different lyrical levels. Now as for you sayin' Pac influences Nas's style....Why? because he has "God Sun" across his stomach and 2 Wack had "Thug Life" on his, or 2 Wack(or a FAKE 2 Wack, I may add) was on the cross on the "Smile" video with Face, and Nas was on a cross on the "Hate Me Now" Video? Or because Nas shouts out Pac? Let me clear this up for you, niggaz shout him out now because he is DECEASED!! Why would they talk bad about a dead man, that is total disrespect and niggaz get toasted for shit like that. That's the same as Snoop yeah the "what, the EASTCOAST aint got no love for Death Row, well Fuck yall" at the '95 Source Awards Snoop, reppin' and showin' mad love for BIG now. Also, before 2 Wack died he and Nas met and squashed their beef at the '96 MTV awards....don't believe me look up a Suge Knight audio on the net when he was at power 105 in NYC about a month ago. Dun, I wish he and Nas could have did a track together before he got plugged, then you niggaz could have witnessed Nas lyrically destroy that dude. But back to the subject Q, the only way I see Nas tryin' to be like Mr. Wack is gettin' all emotional and bein' all controversial in his interviews and shit, other than that....NADA!! And the diss track by Nas that promoted Pac to make "Against All Odds" was entitled "The Message". This joint is the second track on "It Was Written". Nas doesn't say any specific names, but it is clear to whom he was referring because even yours truly Mr. 2 Wack Shakur knew who he was talking about. Also, on the Dr. Dre produced "Nas Is Coming" he gets at Pac a little, and that is too on the "It Was Written" lp.

Aiyo, 3:16 and HWood don't waist your time trying to tell that moron about Big L. You should have left it alone when the nigga said he didn't even know who gawd was. I told you those niggaz in Tennessee just got television and radio like a year and a half ago. Before that, they had no means of entertainment. For crying out loud the nigga said that KRS sucks (shakes head at this prick's ignorance).

B2K don't think that I didn't peep your WACK ass verse comin' at me.....Aiyo, Check it, here's a little some'n some'n for this herb

I'm a defined EMCEE, elected mayor of flows/ my presence is FELT like THROBBING ACHES, so I'll just a stay here and pose/ with my lyrical championship belt that is layered in gold/ well deserving, evidence is that this prey was my foe/ I'm might act kool, pass him up and say "hey there"...who knows?/ Take him to Harlem go to the Gucci shop and pay for his clothes/ Think I'm friendly?, rather heartless, my rest in PIECE will spray up his nose/ my evil eye on the DEFEATED, as he lays there and mold/ also gaspin' for THE GAWD, letting his prayers unfold/ portraying acts of JESUS CHRIST, I'll call him the SAVIOR of hoes.....now that's a REAL FREESTYLE.....with SUPERB WORDPLAY (speakin' of wordplay and constant rhyme patterns, don't forget who put your faggot ass up on it).....now you should ask yourself are you ready for these FEROCIOUS bars of mine, that are NEVER planned out.

One last thing, since you nigga are posting verses by your favorite artists, I think I'll do the same.....

..."I never brag, how real I keep it/ cause it's the best secret/
I rock a vest, prestigious/ Cuban link flooded Jesus/
in a Lex watchin Kathie Lee and Regis/
My actions are one with the seasons/
A tec squeezin/ executioner/ winter time I rock a fur/
Mega popular// center of attraction/
Climaxin, my bitches they be laughin/
They high from sniffin coke off a twenty-cent Andrew Jackson//
City lights spark a New York night//
Rossi and Martini sippin/ Sergio Tachinni flippin// mad pies
low price, I blow dice and throw em/
Forty-five by my scrotum/ manifest the "Do or Die" slogan//
My niggaz roll in ten M3's/
Twenty Gods poppin wheelies on Kawasaki's//
Hip-Hop's got me on some ol', sprayin shots like a drumroll/
Blankin out and never miscount the shells my gun hold//
I don't stunt, I regulate/
Henny and Sprite, I seperate/ watchin crab niggaz marinate//
I'm all about tecs and good jooks and sex/
Israelite books, holdin government names from Ness//
MC's are crawlin out, every hole in the slum/
You be aight like blood money in a pimp's cum"-Nas on "Take It In Blood"......what verse is hotter?!

I've did my duty here...so I'll exit now..."MVP, please don't leave, you bring the excitement to this thread....."

"Literally, I'm labeled EINSTEIN cause I'm an MC SQUARED"-MVP....the chancellor of metaphors

Hollywood, if I got you confused with a Pac hater, then my bad. As far as me not being able to name a Big L track because he is or was underground is false. Yes he WAS underground, but I was in Best Buy the other day and his CD was right there next to B.I.G.'s. So in my book, cuz made it to OVERground...or whatever the mainstream joint is called, lol. As far as you and me posting rhymes from the late great Pac and the late Big L, I'm with it. Start that thing off and I'll follow.

Hillis, Brandy does have some nice lips; you know I agree. Speaking of that. Did you know Mase (on his CD Double Up) said something about getting head from "bleep". The cd bleeps it out like it's a cuss word or something and the word (whatever it was) or name, rhymes with grammy. I never heard anyboy else mention it, but peep it if you can. Why would they let him say about a million cuss words, but then bleep out a word? I'm convinced the name was Brandy...as in Moesha. But that was a smart move by Puff, or whoever did it and a weak move by Masion. But moving on, I think I might use this invention for awhile longer (paragraphs). And Ashanti is not all that fine. She ain't ugly, but she ain't no ten either. And she can sing, but she is far from the best. My beef is she gets props like she is all that and people like Tamia, etc. don't even get a mention. Oh yeah, I saw Monster's Ball. Man Billy Bob tore that up, don't hate because it was him and not you, lol.

Save Best for last. I don't feel what you're saying, but I'll try to respect your opinion, no matter how one sided it is (like putting Pac at 100 of all time while Nas puts him at number 1, "Ether"). Also, I was just asking, if Pac is so weak or whatever, doesn't that make a Pac jocker weak too. Put it like this. If Scarface came out on a song and said Nelly is the best rapper ever, Face would be clowned, right? Don't fake, Pac is way above most if not every rapper out today including Nas. Nas ain't clowned for prasing Pac because Pac was a great rapper. If he prasied Nelly, he'd get lol-ed off the satge. But I do agree with whoever said Nas called Nelly out for no reason. That was weak. And do you think Pac only influnced Nas in the ways you mentioned? 1st off all, Pac was on the cross before Nas made that video. Look it up if you don't believe. And I'm not feeling you about Nas giving Pac shout outs JUST because he is dead. BIG was his boy and he is dead, why does Pac get more. And how do you feel about Nas saying Pac is the best!?!? And how do you feel about Nas sugar coating his diss? I think I heard the song before, but can you tell me how you KNOW he is speaking of Pac and not some other rapper. Lastly, even if he was speaking of Pac (which I have to doubt) who do you think had the better diss, Pac or Nas?

Oh yeah y'all. I almost forgot. I got that new Scarface joint. I ain't felt none of his last few CD's but "The Fix" is tight. Peep it.

The New and Untouchable

"I spit a verse at you just to test ya heart/Wait for you to respond, then rip ya flesh apart." -- Ali Vegas (Ripping the shit out of Fabolous)

Okay Qoolout, lets see what happens with this 2 Pac vs. Big L battle, I got a spit for you right off the bat. This is the '98 Freestyle that was featured on "The Big Picture" lp. The unrealeased work of the slain rapper. It's a long ass freestyle but a favorable verse at that.

"Yo, fuck all the glamours and glitz, I plan to get rich
I'm from New York and never was a fan of the Knicks
And I'm all about expandin my chips
You mad cause I was in the van with your bitch
with both hands on her tits
Corleone hold the throne, that you know in your heart
I got style, plus the way that I be flowin is sharp
A while back I used to hustle, sellin blow in the park
Countin G stacks and rockin ice that glow in the dark
Forever - hottie huntin, trigger temper I'm quick to body somethin
You lookin at me like I'm probably frontin
I fuck around and throw, three in your chest and flee to my rest
I'm, older and smarter this is me at my best
I stopped hangin around y'all, cause niggaz like you
be prayin on my downfall, hopin I flop
Hopin I stop, you probably even hope I get locked
or be on the street corner with a pipe, smokin the rock
I got more riches than you, fuck more bitches than you
Only thing I haven't got is more, stitches than you
Fuckin punk, you ain't a +Leader+ what? Nobody +Follow-ed+ you
You was never shit, your mother shoulda swallowed you
(Mmmm.. WHOO!) You on some tagalong flunkie yes man shit
Do me a favor, please get off the next man dick
And if you think I can't fuck with whoever, put your money up
Put your jewels up, no fuck it put your honey up
Put your raggedy house up nigga, or shut your mouth up
before I buck lead, and make a lot of blood shed
Turn your tux red, I'm far from broke, got enough bread
And mad hoes, ask Beavis I get nuttin Butt-head
{*laughter*} My game is, vicious and cool
Fuckin chicks is a rule
If my girl think I'm loyal then that bitch is a fool
How come, you can listen to my first album
and tell where a lot of niggaz got they whole style from?
(YEAH!) So what you actin for?
You ain't half as raw, you need to practice more
Somebody tell this nigga sum'un, 'fore I crack his jaw
You runnin with boys, I'm runnin with men
I'ma be rippin the mics until I'm a hundred and ten
Have y'all niggaz like, "Damnit this nigga done done it again"
I throw slugs at idi-ots, no love for city cops
I sport a pretty watch, eight-hundred and fifty rocks
I'm makin wonderful figures
I don't fuck with none of you niggaz
I might pull out this gun on your niggaz
and rob every last one of you niggaz"

Let's see what 2 Pac got........

"Now, if you gave me a sweet for every bitch that I fuck, you have to bring 4 18-wheelers, fill em from back to front, cause I'm Pimp C, bitch!" - Pimp C

H*WOOD, that was a tight ass Big L verse, but am I allowed to post Pac verses or is it Q vs. H, Pac vs. L? I mean, it probably wouldn't be fair if me and Qool teamed up against you. Yo, Qool, I never heard that about Mase and Brandy, but I could believe that bitch went down on all fours like a defensive tackle. Or I could believe that ho sucks more than the Redskinnies jerseys... lol The Source gave The Fix 5 mics, and I like the Jigga song and On My Block. QS, ain't you a Geto Boys fan?

Next order of business... Nchekwube. Really. You can't be that dumb. Are you patting yourself on the back? Did you go up to Marcus and Lukky and tell em, "I really got Hillis now!" You fucking MORON! I know good and well that the whole "bureau/briefcase" thing is from your flow ("office/suitcase") way back then! I bet you just now figured out that September 11th coincides with 9-1-1! F-A-G-O-L-O-U-S ass nigga!!! Follow this examples if you can...

Jay-Z spits, "R-O-C, we RUNnin this RAP SHIT!"

Nas spits back, "R-O-C, get GUNned up and CLAPPED QUICK!"

Do you follow, faggot? Nas used something Jay spit, reworked it, and dissed him. It's pretty obvious where Nas got that line from. At least, to normal people. Oops, my bad! Did you just now figure out that Nas did that? Took it from Takeover? Well, he did, Kockblowerina. Like Junior Mafia and "Get Money" then Pac with "Take Money." See? Do you understand the words that are comin out of your screen?! I told you your English/reading is just pathetic. Get some work on that, Eboana! BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! I put freestyle in quotation marks, signaling that I meant something different. I've spoke on this before, but some people think a freestyle is not written down or some other bull, and a lot of mixtapes have "freestyles" that are really not freestyles. Do you follow? Have I lost you yet? Well, I see you're a bit slow. Therefore, I have another "freestyle" for H*WOOD's mixtape. Now, it is a diss. And in that diss, I have taken a little something from the "diss-ee." See if you can guess what! I know you're slow, so I won't expect you to get it until after your next three posts... LMAOROTFLATPUTYDFHNGML!!!

"Uh, uh, uh, a FAGGOT to the second power is a KAPPA SQUARED/two GAYS passing around MORRISANA is a KAPPA SHARED//this D.U.P.E. challenged me, but he's a KAPPA UNPREPARED/he don't want it with HILLIS, he's just a KAPPA SCARED//if I let him off easy then he's a KAPPA SPARED/intelligent folks know to step from me, but this KAPPA DARED//so I caught him slippin on the mic, a KAPPA UNAWARE//put down the briefcase and beat him with my seat; thus, a KAPPA "CHAIRED!"

WHOA! Mixtape version so I had to cut it short! WHOA! The ferocity! WHOA! The bars were just so ferocious! H*WOOD's mixtape is gonna be so like WHOA! Now be deceased for good you darn Kappa! WHOA!

Nchekwube, you are just having a hard time following along! YOU were the one bringing up how folks supposedly can't speak on qustions not specifically addressed to them. And I said you were WHINING like a PUSSY, and to show you how stupid you sound, I referred to my Eminem question that you answered even though I obviously wasn't addressing you because I had you on a post ban. MEANING that I was not gonna respond to YOU! You could have "talked" to me all you wanted, but H3K, HILLIS, MR. DON'T STOP, ADRIAN, ABE, etc. would not gonna respond to YOU! I'm not the moderator, no, but I can moderate who I respond to!

I said it was weak of Nas to call out Nelly. It was true that Nelly can't be Nas. Again, the understatement of the year. But there was NO reason for him to call out Nelly. Nelly ain't said NOTHIN about Nas. I mean, if Nas and Nelly got into it, Nas would win, but that's not fair. That's like Nchekwube versus a Catholic priest. There's no way the priest could fondle as many little boys as Nchekwube. And the only reason he said anything about Cam's album is because Cam is on the ROC. And now Nas is runnin with Murda Pink. Sugar coat it all you want Best "BUT YOU AND I KNOW WHAT'S GOIN ON..." - Makaveli And you're a nincompoop for thinking Nas could TOUCH a verse by Pac. First of all, Pac would come lyrically correct on a track with Nas. But 2Pac's delivery would set it way apart from Nas's bland ass "deceased cats on a bloody blade of grass" mumbo jumbo "metaphors." LMAOWMXA! (by the way, LMAOWMXA means Laughing my Ass Off With Malcom X's Assassins)

How this faggot gon call me Otis Thorpe when we all know that Nchekwube and Tyrone Hill were identical twins separated at birth?! LMAO! "Best, why don't uou smile?" - Southern University student "Why does everybody keep saying that? I am smiling" - The Best (chancellor of gay butt sex)

His style ISN'T mine horribly flipped... but he'd like it to be!

I'm out like a bird with no broken sky to fly through. Peace!

"I said I'm sorry mama... I never meant to hurt you-u-u... I never meant to make you cry, but tonight, I'm gonna battle Moby" What Em really means

Hill Hill Hill Hill Hill... Let me spell it out... BIG L WAS A BETTER LYRICIST THAN PAC, GET IT? LLLLLLYRICIST! And just to prove it:

Check it, a year ago I did a show for some dough/
Puffed a bag of hydro then broke out on the low/
And on my way out, it was a female on my trail/
who followed me from the stage to the Benz SL/
I asked honey her name, she replied, "Monique"/
Soft and sweet, from her head to feet, hotter than heat/
Jump in the passenger seat, let's go get somethin to eat/
She said I was that Roc-a-Fella she'd been dyin to meet/
I tried to hit it first night, she said she wasn't a freak/
Yeah right - it's all good, so I waited a week/
Then one night to my crib she decided to creep/
Knocked on a nigga door and woke me outta my sleep/
I let her in before you know it we was doin our thang/
I drove her home, and said tomorrow give me a ring/
It was about a month later when she gave me a call/
with some bogus ass story that was off the wall/
Claimin she's pregnant with my child, I think that's quite foul/
How is that? I wore a Lifestyle

Q, I never compared U to the K-izza rappers with 2crack Slackur. I was just shouting them out, but on the real they tight too. An accent (actually, they aint the ones with it!) dont make a rapper good or bad.

Come on dude, TURN THAT FROWN UPSIDE DOWN!

Nothin else to say man. I'm going to watch Em threaten to hit Moby at the VMAs again!

Peace

"But I do know one thing, though! Bitches they come they go, Saturday through Sunday, Monday! Monday through Sunday, yo..." - Eminem

That line comes from Superman - in my opinion, the best song on Em's new CD. Check it out.

"I'm not a good MC anymore or b-boy fanatic, I simply made a protest of Nelly and tried to make the CD stores put Nellyville in the attic" - The KRS-1/Nelly remix of Criminally Minded

Ok, 3:16, that Big L verse wasn't that good. I'm sure Big L has done better than that. If not, I don't see why he's supposedly so much better than Pac in the lyrics department. And you didn't simply say that Big L was a better lyricist. Scroll up and you'll see where you specifically said Big L should be placed in the GOAT category along with Jay, KRS, Nas, Big, and that Pac was behind them all. Now if you wanna say Big L was a better lyricist, then I can dig that, but as a better MC? Uh, sorry. Nope, nada, never! And I forgot to say that it wasn't hard at all to find that Pac verse because it's off of All Eyez On Me ("Got My Mind Made Up") and that's the best double disc of all time! Possibly the greatest LP of all time! But anyway, here goes another tight Pac verse for that ass...

"Out on BAIL, fresh out of JAIL, California DREAMIN/soon as I step on the scene, I'm hearin hoochies SCREAMIN//FIENDIN for money and alcohol/the life of a Westside player where cowards die, and the strong ball//only in CALI where we riot not RALLY to live and die/in LA we wearin Chucks not BALLIES (yeah, that's right)//dressed in Locs and KHAKI SUITS and RIDE is WHAT WE DO/FLOSSIN but havin CAUTION we coLLIDE with OTHER CREWS//famous because we THROW GRANDS/worldwide, let em recognize from Long Beach to ROSECRANZ//bumpin and grindin like a SLOW JAM/it's West Side, so you KNOW the ROW will bow down to NO MAN//say what you SAY, but give me that bomb beat from DRE/let me serenade the streets of LA//from Oakland to SACTOWN, the Bay Area and BACK DOWN/Cali is where they put they MACK DOWN, show me love!"

See, 2Pac had great wordplay (not the best, but still great) but what ultimately sets Mr. Makaveli apart from GayRS-1 (and the rest of these GOAT wanna bes) is that when 2Pac gets on the microphone he spits so that you can feel him, unlike the rest of these cornball "lyricists" who get on the mic and spit like their dog just died. Now that's obviously "Cali Luv" and it may have been a party track, but his flow and wordplay was on point - AS USUAL!

I'm out like KRS-1 wants Nellyville to be. Peace!

"Come into my office so I can beat you with my briefcase," LOL

H3K, the best one on Em's CD is the joint where he sings and then raps the last verse. Yeah, I was a Geto Boys fan. I liked all of their stuff up until Big Mike came; now, I loved that CD with Big Mike. Cuz, took Willie D’s spot and spit way better. But every CD after that was a disappointment in my opinion. Just like Scarface’s joints. I didn’t really like his CD with "Smile" f. Pac. Again, I loved that song "Smile," but the rest of the CD had me saying "buy the single and cut your losses." And every Scarface CD since has been joints I ain’t wanna here. But finally he gives us The Fix. If he keeps this up he can go back to being one of my favorite rappers, (but I think Cube is too long gone to ever get back on that list). And I put no credit into the Source’s 5 mic system; they are as fake as the jewelry that’s in the back, lol (Best). But speaking of Face and Best, Best is it true that Face has ghostwriters now? If he did I think he fired them from "The Fix" because a couple of the tracks sound just like the Scarface from the "Mr. Scarface" and “The World is Yours” days. Also Hillis, I don’t care how the jerseys look; they aren’t as ugly as the score will be when we play the cheating Titains (I predict something like): Skins 40, TITains 5…at least they got a safety, lol. And yeah, I called them forward lateral throwing clowns, some cheaters.

3:16, I know you weren’t saying that those UK rappers were on Pac’s level, but you said or implied that KRS and Big L were. Like I said 100 times before, KRS paved the way and opened doors, but that was then. I speaking of the "here and now" (Hillis). I repeat, what has KRS done lately? I don’t care if he ended Nelly’s career, (which he tried to do, but failed massively) that alone doesn’t make you a great rapper. Yeah Pac murdered Chino XL’s career as far as rap goes, and Pac ain’t even make a diss for XL. As far as I know he said f em’ and that was that, ain’t heard from cuz since. But that’s neither hear nor there, my point is KR-mess made moves back in the day, but STOP acting like he is still doing it (like a dead Pac). Y’all make him and a bunch of others wayyyyy bigger than they are. And on another note, what’s up with this mix tape talk. Bammas ain’t putting too much stock in mixtapes like that. For one, anybody can get on one. Yours truly can put out a mix tape and send it to NY, Canada, Cali, etc. But it’s a lot harder to have a CD or tape inside of an actual store...and I mean a real store, not one of them stands. Anyway, 3:16 and Hollywood, I must admit I was a lil impressed with a couple of them bars y’all posted (a couple). But 3:16 why would you post a joint where it sounds like Big L dissed himself? LOL, she ain’t call him until a month later? Dag, I would have kept that to myself if I was cuz.

Shout out to H-wood; yous my boy, but remember who you and Big L are going against: Qoolout aka All-Out and 2Pac aka Makaveli. Y’all don’t want it wit us. And do you really believe that was a freestyle by Big L? I admit it has it’s tight parts (on paper because I never heard it) but I doubt it was a freestyle. Peep it:

Who Do you Believe in? (by 2Pac):

I see mothers and Black crime/ brothers in packs dying/ plus everybody's HIGH, too DOPED up to ask why. / Watching our own down-fall, witness the end, it's like we don't believe in GOD cause we LIVIN’ IN SIN/ I ask my homie on the block why he STRAPPED, he laughed/ pointed his PISTOL as the cop car passed and BLASTED/ It's just another MURDER, nobody MOURNS no more, /my TEAR DROPS gettin' bigger, but can't figure what I'm CRYIN' for/ Is it the MINIATURE caskets for little BABIES?/ Victims of the stray, from drug dealers going crazy/ Maybe it's just the DRUGS, visions of how the block was/ CRACK came, and it was strange how it ROCKed us/ Perhaps the underlining facts they hide explain GENOCIDE,/ it's WHEN WE RIDE on our own kind/ What is it we all fear? REFLECTIONS in the MIRROR, we can't escape fate, the END is gettin' NEARer/
Who do you believe in? I put my faith in God, blessed I’m still breathing, and even though it’s hard, that’s who I believe in, before I’m leaving, I’m asking and grieving. Who do you believe in?
Close my eyes cause all I see is TERROR/ I hate the man in the mirror cause this reflection makes the PAIN turn realer/ times of ARMAGEDDON, murdering mass amounts/ CLEANING SOCIETY where only gettin' the CASH COUNTS/ I STARTED out as a BEGINNER,/ entered the CRIMINAL lifestyle, became a sinner/I make my money and vacate, evade PRISON/ went from the chosen one to outcast unforgiving/ and all the Hennessey and weed can't hide/ the pain I feel inside, you know, it's like I'm LIVING just to DIE/ I fall on my knees and beg for mercy/ not knowing if I'm worthy/
living life thinking no man can hurt me/ so I'm asking, before I lay me down to sleep/ before you judge me, look at all the things you did to me/ my misery/ I rose up from the slums, made it out the flames/ in my search for fame, will I change?/ And I'm asking who do you believe in?

Y’all what some deep joints by Pac, some creative joints by him, some joints that will just get you hyped? Whatever you want I (Pac really) got it. Hillis, you better tell em bout the P-A-C.

The New and Untouchable

"You got a little flow, that's cool with me, you got a lil dough, that's cool with me, you got a little car, lil jew-el-ry, but none of y'all mufuckas could fool with me!" - Jay-Z

H*WOOD's mixtape has gone platinum - underground! Peep this lil flava (in ya ear) from that new NEW cat, Mr. Don't Stop...

"Uh, uh, uh, you put ya faith in today's phony rappers and they fail cause they unreliable/so jump ship to H3K's bandwagon; my succes is undeniable//an MC killa, but not with TECHS and GUNS/my verbal attacks got me standing NEXT to NONE/I FLEX, they RUN; unopPOSED when I SPEAK/wack rappers fear me cause I willingly exPOSE all the WEAK//I own the throne, the crown, the money; thus, a ROYALE with CHEESE/drug dealin these rhymes quickly, killin with SPEED/taking hip-hop fans "Higher", my vow and my CREED/with ARMS WIDE OPEN, I'm givin you what you NEED//was it my fault ARROGANCE was placed in my GENES?/was it my fault the LUGAR was placed in his SPLEEN?//probably so, but I throw up my sins and repent/fall to my knees and pray til I'm spent//confess to the mic, my own personal priest/now I'm rejuvenated, powered up, ready to bring forth the peace..."

Turn my music high, high, high, high - er! U don't know, what you're doin, doin, doin...

Sure I do!

"Just when you think I've peaked, I let you know that you ain't seen shit..." - H3K

I'm out like business for these airports on any future September 11ths. Peace!

"Don't speak to FOOLS, they scorn the wisdom of your words"-Nas

Aiyo B2K, nice try jackass....tryin' to compare what Nas did with Jay's rhymes and what 2 Wack did with Junior Mafia rhymes to what you did....LOL. The difference is that Jay's diss was directed at Nas, and Wack's was directed at Junior Mafia, BUT the diss that I CREATED was going at 3:16, and not you. Read the first portion herb....."Imagine a British emcee.....". So, what in the hell do you call something that is "reworked", BUT it's not spat/directed at you......hhhhmmmmmm let's see.......BITING!! Now if it was 3:16 tryin' to "rework" the diss then it would be legit, but it wasn't it was your Craig Hodges lookin' ass basically bitin' my shit....in the words of the joint that eventually led to Juvenile's career being a flop....."You Understand".

Also, I like how you keep tryin' to make Mr. 2 Wack's trash ass verses seem more lyrical and shit by CAPITALIZIN' every other word that sounds or looks the same. Face it prick, everyone and their fam has heard this nigga spit those lame ass lyrics, it's nothing special....trust me. And I'm tired of niggaz always takin' up for 2 Wack's lyrics saying that he might not be as lyrical as others, but you can "feel" what he be spittin'....LMAO!! "Feel" what?....."I was raised by thugs, schooled by killas/ learned my mathematical skills from real drug dealers".....OOOOOOHHHHHH, I sure can "feel" that?! Just because he can scream louder than any other rapper, or STRETCH the hell outta his words, doesn't mean that you can feel his wackness anymore than you feel any other rapper. Dun, I don't understand how you dudes rep this fake. I'm about to brake it down one last time for you 2 Wack worshipers, and show you how and when he was labeled "great" and started to become "famous"............"2 Pacalypse Now"...double wood, "Strictly 4 My Niggaz"...double cardboard, "Thug Love"....triple bark, now after this lp, he was plugged five times. He was the antagonist in what many individuals view as the biggest rap beef ever with Christopher Wallace and Bad Boy Records.....and during this beef he dropped...."Me Against The World"....3X platinum, "All Eyes On Me"...Diamond, "The Seven Day Theory"(Only Classic Album)...2X platinum, and "several other corny sounding" records. Do you worshipers see the drastic increase in sales of his albums, Mr. Wack wasn't thought of as being mentioned as a "great" until his '94 shooting. I mean the only niggaz who consider this dude to be the G.O.A.T. are nincompoops from California, and other pricks from the south, or wherever other place in the world other than NY that decided to cling onto his imitation thug raps. Also, these individuals tend to despise any other emcee that 2 Wack despised.

Also Q, how did Pac murder Chino XL. You have to be shittin' me, "Chino XL, FUCK YOU TOO"...really did mad damage to gawds career. I bet half you niggaz(worshipers) didn't even know who Chino XL was until 2 Wack dissed him, and then you niggaz probably still don't know who he is. And to let you know, the reason why 2 Wack dissed Chino was because he made a comment on the radio saying that 2 Wack was in jail gettin' raped and butt fucked...LMAO...(B2K, stop crying, it was only a joke...aight). And on the really Q, you've just added to what I've been saying all along about Mr. Wack's rhymes. Specifically, the verse by dude that you pasted on here had some bars that support everything that I have been speakin' of....."and all the Hennessey and weed can't hide/ the pain I feel inside, you know, it's like I'm LIVING just to DIE"-2 Wack....He spits this same shit in ALMOST everyone one of his songs, but he might word it a little differently. The shit gets BORING!! Oh, and to answer your comment about Face. I heard on an interview by Yukmouth that he was ghostwritin' some of Face's shit. I don't know if he was ghostin' any of dun's recent joints, but the interview is like a year old, and it's on the net somewhere. I'll try to find the link and give it to you though wo.

One last thing before I exit. Here's a bar from the wackness spit by B2K..."I own the throne, the crown, the money; thus, a ROYALE with CHEESE".....nigga, who are you kiddin', you ain't got no loot....BROKE MOTHAFUCKA....better start savin' your little money from your "internet job", so you can pay for grad school.....LMAO.

What, you thought this outro was OVA..."Nooooo, he's leavin'!" "Who, who's leavin'?" MVP MOTHAFUCKAS!!

"If I STOOD OVER YOU, you still wouldn't UNDERSTAND me"-MVP

What up Best? I just need to clear up a few things. 1st of all, your theory is incorrect. "Me Against the World" (Pac's best work/CD in my opinion) was released and went multi-plat before the Bad Boy beef. Secondly, if you are now putting stock into sales, that's cool, just let me know; I can post Nas' CD's and how much they sold, then we can compare them to Pac's. And I said it before, NO, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO C-XL WAS UNTIL PAC DISSED HIM. I know why he dissed him now and the whole story behind it, now, but my point is (which I already said and you repeated) Pac ain't even drop a verse on him. He killed that man with one sentence. It didn't even rhyme; it wasn't even half a bar. He gave Nas, Biggie, Jay, and Mobb (the only ones who were not scared to respond) verses and bars galore. But he killed this man Chino X-FAIL with less than six words. FACE IT, Chino was up and coming (maybe) but Pac ended that quick(certainly, not maybe). And true Pac got fame off of the Bad Boy beef, but you "say" this as if Nas didn't do the EXACT same thing with Jay-Z; the exact same thing dogg. As far as the "Hennessey line"...you said he rhymes Hennessey with enemies, which he did do often, but that is irrelevant since the word "enemies" isn't even in that rap. Furthermore, you name me one successful rapper who doesn't have a line that they use repeatedly. And I'd like to know your opinion on the joint I posted. Do you honsetly dislike/hate it? Lastly, I read your Dec. 4 post that Hillis kept "talking" about, and to my surprise, you said Pac was one of the best rappers. Please Best, explain.

"But in the mist of this insanity, I found my Christianity Through God and there's a wish he granted me
" -- Eminem on first LP "Infinite" (Ironic line isn't it? But foreal though Eminem use to sound like a white version of Nas back in the day. Imagine that Best?)

But Qool, I like that verse seriously..................but don't think a nigga went soft either though! Ha! Ha! This is called "Fed up with bullshit" it's easy to figure out the message in this one.

Yo, on the scene is the brother that's big
I'm not a little kid
I'm a nig who don't dig a muthafuckin pig/
Cause to me they ain't nothin but harassers
That misuse they badges to whip niggas' asses/
Then one day they slow rolled through the hood
With the .38s cocked, 2 deep, up to no good/
They say that my skin was black so they attacked
Threw me on the back and stuck a gat to my fuckin cap/
One murdered my man like it was okay
For the life he ended he got suspended with no pay/
But if a man woulda took the cop life, he woulda got life
And never again see the street lights, and that's trife/
Around my way they shot many teens
And them cops better stop, or I'ma stop em, by any means/
The Big L won't hesitate to cold diss em
And if you ask me, muthafuck the whole system/
There are too many young black brothers doin life bids
Cause justice means 'just us white kids'So take heed to the rhymes I kick/
I'm about to flip, cause I'm fed up with that bullshit.

By the way "Me Against The World" came out after the beef. To my knowledge that came out in 1995, and the beef started in 1994 shortly before he was shot like Best said. Just to prove it, on the vinyl version of "Ready to die" (Came out a few months after the CD version) there is a bonus track that features......you guessed it? "Who Shot Ya" the song that is often claimed as the song that made the beef come to life. Also Big mentioned that he was doing a song on the Junior Mafia album in his last interview when the shooting happened. And Conspiracy came out in 1995 I think.

Tight verse for real H-wood. But first things first. I said (scroll back if you don't believe) "Me Aganist the World" (MATW) was released and did well in the stores, BEFORE the Bad Boy beef. And this is when sales meant a lil more than they do today. Pac was in jail when "Dear Mama" and all that came out. MATW was already done. There was not 1 Bad Boy diss on there. You and Best are mistaken. Hip Hop fans (as far as I know) didn't really think "Who Shot Ya" was about Pac when they 1st heard it. It was after Pac got out of jail and made "Hit em' Up," (killing C-XL) that is what kicked off the beef. Pac got out and started saying BIG and them were behind his shooting. Even if Pac started saying this from inside of jail, it still is meaningless to MATW because that joint was already out and selling. Maybe the beef helped sale "All Eyez on Me" but everything prior to that was recorded before the shooting.

I am gaining a lil more respect for this person, Big L, but do you know who you are going against? LOL, peep this Pac joint called "Baby Don't Cry." 1st I hit you with "some deep, make you think about stuff" rhymes, lol. Now you getting the positive side. It's like a "Keep Ya Head Up" joint.

Now here's a story bout a woman with dreams/So picture perfect at thirteen, an ebony queen/Beneath the surface it was more than just a crooked smile/Nobody knew about her secret so it took a while/I could see a tear fall slow down her black cheek/Sheddin quiet tears in the back seat/ so when she asked me, "What would you do if it was you?"/Couldn't answer such a horrible pain to live through/I tried to trade places in the tragedy/I couldn't picture three crazed ni--az grabbin me/For just a moment I was trapped in the pain,/"Lord come and take me"/"Four ni--az violated, they chased and they raped me"/Even though it wasn't me, I could feel the grief/ Thinkin with your brains blown/that would make the pain go/ No! You got to find a way to survive/ cause they win when your soul dies, baby please don't cry.

On the for real, I can't even convey how tight this song is; you have to actually hear the joint to really understand how Pac was flowing. The Outlaws hooked it up too. But sicne this is about Pac and L, I can't post there joints. Holla

No longer New but still Untouchable

I know that I'm late with this, but Em's joint called “Nail in the Coffin” is tight. I just heard it for the first time and it had me cracking up x 100. Since H-wood seems to usually have the scoop on this type of stuff, holla at me. Who is Ben exactly? I mean I have an idea but give me the specifics. How did this beef start? Etc, etc. And Best, you know I can’t get in you and Hill’s dispute, but what are Ben’s disses towards Em? I remember you gave him some props, so let me get the title or titles so I can judge too. And since I ain't rep Jada and Beyonce’ as much as I have in the past, let me make up for that right here. My girl got a joint out where she remixed 50 Cent's "In Da Club" without him saying one word. Of course Qool gonna like it, but when y'all hear it tell me what ya think. Dru Hillis, I respect your (wrong) opinion (just joking) about Shaq being better than Kobe and Luda’s verse being better than Jada’s, but who were you feelin’ more on the Mary J. remix, Jada or Fab. Oh yeah, that Fab song is "Can’t let you go" and the part that had me lol’in the most was when he said "I'ma be leaving the earth soon/ if my girl smells the scent of you perfume (again not word for word, but still funny). Also, I heard a remix to J.Lo’s and LL’s “All I Have” with Eminem and someone else. I’m trying to figure out who the other person is. See, the alarm clock woke up a brother and since I was groggy, I couldn’t place the voice, but cuz dissed about 5 or 6 people in one verse. My policy has always been "you lose points if you are just dissin’ to be dissin'" but nevertheless, whoever it was did have a lil flow and I’m trying to hear that joint again. Hill I know exactly what Jada verse you are referring to. But go back a step further to DMX’s first cd. The LOX was on one of them songs with Mase, and all of them spit something tight. X, however, killed all of ‘em with his verse, but that just shows that Kiss has come a long way. With the exception of "Jenny from the Block" I’ve felt all his recent stuff. But with that said, I leave you all with some of his earlier work. Enjoy: When I pop up/ I lock shop up/ Pull the drop up and park a block up/ Hit the alarm put the top up/ Stash the dro in my sock/ Then pull my sock up/ Keep the burner, but if it's hot, put my glock up/ You know what I'm about, slidin' off gettin’ my cock sucked/ writin' rhymes watchin' Scarface in the hot tub. P.S. Hillis, you think Ether really wanted it with Team 3?

Though I'm not the first king of controversy/I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley/To do Black Music so selfishly/And use it to get myself wealthy/"Hey" there's a concept that works/20 million other white rappers emerge/But no matter how many fish in the sea/
It will be so empty without me.. -- Eminem on Without Me

If you were to pin point the exact start of this beef, that line would be it right there. This seemed to strike a nerve with Ray Benzino (a.k.a. Ben), the CO-owner of the Source, turned rapper. Pretty much in a nut shell Qool everything that Wiz talked about a few post ago is pretty much what Benzino is beefing about. Benzino threw the first shots at Em, with this song called "Pull Up Your skirt." This diss IMO was lackluster due to the fact Em and Benzino (Despite the numerous appearances in the Source) have never met.

Direct quote:
"I've never met this man, this girl. She is obsessed with me. I never would think I would see the day when I seen the worst rapper in the world going against one of the best." --Eminem

All he could really due is attack Em on the stuff you've heard and read about in the paper (about his Mom, his wife, etc.) So once Em' heard it, he went on a rampage with two diss songs in a matter of 1 week. That particular one you talked about, "Nail In The Coffin" was his first response to Benzino. He also came out with a song called "The Sauce" where he dissed the Source magazines credibility, and later on a freestyle off the "We The Realest" beat where he indirectly response to Ja Rule and his beef with 50. Then Benzino came with a little more aggression with "Die Another Day." This was his best showing so far in the beef. Despite what Benzino said, Em thinks it goes much deeper than this white/black issue. Due to the fact there has been a rumor going on for a pretty long time that Benzino gives rappers long editorials in his magazine for guest spots on his album. And if you decline he locks you out of his magazine. There have also been complaints from former Source employees that they were intimidated to give Benzino good and positive reviews on his music. As a matter of fact his whole editorial staff quit after a big feature was put in about Benzino. This is where XXL jumps in. Since the two rivals have a mini feud going on in the first place, it was only appropriate that last month XXL put Eminem, 50, & Dre on the cover. This battle IMO is going to die down cause there is no real space for it to grow. Maybe a couple more diss tracks, but nothing more. And while we are at it, I think Canibus is taking more shots at Em too. I would like to see Em reply foreal this time instead of that blow off treatment. I would really like to see those two go at it.

What? ya'll still talkin about em and ben...run your kazaa and find you a song called malcolm x and you will see that there is a more sinister beef brewing, with a rapper who is probably as close as possible to em lyrically....Royce da 5 9. Its about to get ugly.

"You show off, I count dough off when you sampled my voice..." - Nas

Hey, first off, I ain't go even lie... LMAO @ "this square ass nigga, etc. etc." You're right; it was hardly "the tightest shit ever." But check out this shit from Best...

"One more thing, Adrian (Hillis) I can understand if the questions I asked you about the south is the reason why you haven't been on this board in a hot minute. It's aight though you and the slouchy ass south can throw in the towel." - 12/17/01

This wammy ass African puttin my name in his posts, beggin me to come back and post against his wammy ass... these wammies. Relax, wammy, I was just on a li hiatus!

Of course, that brings to the rest of your "despicable" post! This gay ass nigga wants to clown me by the fact that I squashed the beef because Qoolout mentioned it. FUCK OUTTA HERE! Why didn't you post that whole paragraph? Here, I'll do it for your gay ass...

"Tis the season to be jolly! I read on here the other day that my nigga Qoolout said maybe the beef should be squashed. Now, I really ain't give a fuck about them other whiney ass niggas boohooin about beef, but Qoolout is a well respected man. And rightfully so. Therefore, since he asked for the beef to be squashed without actually tryin to knock our battlin, then that's qool. I'll take the first step forward and I will not mention any ill will towards The Best and Big J anymore. But notice that I mentioned only The Best and Big J. If some other cat wants to come in here and say DA SOUTH sucks, or Pac sucks, then I'ma go at his ass, cuz I'm on here havin fun, and I like battlin. And even with The Best or Big J, if they still feel they have to make disparaging remarks about DA SOUTH, or call me White, or anything, then I'll start it back up again. All I'm doing is respecting Qoolout's respect. But if they can't do it, neither an I. But as of now, it's all good in H3K's eyes."

Faggot fucker, I was just ending it cause Qool suggested it. Unlike YOU! Why didn't you come back at me anymore? Your next post was friendlier than Casper. You're gay as fuck, just face it. And this nigga wanna post some of my old shit, huh?

"3:16 or 36/24/36?/of Adam's qualities, or do you attain a women's preference/ dun ya flow is mad premature/ Ill spit nicer bars wit out acquiring American literature/ "Stone Cold" you fuckin groupie/ If we battled on a U-haul truck ya flow still wouldn't move me/ Wit Hillis's dick between ya lips/phuckin faggot stick to workin ya hips/ Cause ya spits is pitiful/ We could take it to the streets, Ill leave ya condition critical/ How dare you come at "The Best", Im a lyrical general/ dun Ill steal ya soul, leaving you utterly invisible/ Im a disect your foolish lyrical career/ Ya flows is D.U.I. consistently in fear/ This concluding bar will definitely cease you to rest/ Furious at me cause positive was the results of ya AIDS test" (THIRTY SIX and PREFERENCE DON'T RHYME!)

Compare that to his humerous metaphors now! Nigga, what happened between now and then? Who gave you that hug, Mr. Soul Stealer? Instead of pledgin, Kappas just hug niggas in they frat, huh? lol And of course, it has some disease reference like in every spit. And we see the terrible U-Haul "metaphor."

And I forgot about this earlier, but this nigga wants to clown me for writin lyrics to a Nas beat. Negro, who's the faggot who made a diss to 3:16 to the "You're The Man" beat and then his gay ass types "I'm The Best" over and over again like the song does "you're da man!" You are officially a square ass nigga. Nigga, Lil Mo could be a slut, and you'd still be more HOMO!

And I ain't about bringin Qool into this beef (I don't wanna be accused of having him pick sides...), but since you did it, I'll make this one exception...

"Either way you're known as a BUTT, so I could call you J. LO" - QS 3/20/02
"You can rhyme next to JENNIFER LOPEZ and you'll still be more BOOTY" - The Best 6/9/02

Get off dicks! lol

"How could you even think to call yourself Best/ after Steph called you puss and you ain't even contest?/ After I asked my boy to go easy on his enemy?/ You know who he be; he claims Tennesess./ If it wasn't for Qool, he'd still be killin ya..." - QS 3/6/02

This nigga wanna bring up somethin Steph said, but she "called you puss and you ain't even contest..." FUCK OUTTA HERE tryin to use Qoolout! This bout me and you, not Big J, Qool, or Steph. FAGGOT!

"So my wordplay is weak? How do that sound?/ I recall what you said, "Let's go a few rounds./ I like your flow, why you been holding back?"/ "Come on; let's battle." But now they're wack?/ You gotta be the biggest faker and those lines prove it" QS 3/26/03

First, I was tight. Now I suck? Looks like you've used that tactic before...

"Uh, uh, uh, dun don't really wanna see me; he's a scaredy-cat/you may be half man, but you're barely that//you BEST call Jason Kidd, you need some assistance/and why them Nupes call you "bruh?" we know that you a sis, man//sis-ter, Sis-qo, sis-E/and you can't stand this rain, so you're a Missy//you can't beat me, damn sure can't join me, so you're shit out of luck/so keep that P-U, boo boo you spit out ya butt//I'm not Jay, more Dewayne; THE ROCK IN HERE!/BEST is hard and masterbatin; THE COCK IN HERE//he needs somethin to catch the nut; THE SOCK IN HERE!/double talker, ya views on PAC ain't clear//I'm out for pay day, you ain't ready for this melee/when I come to gay slay, with lyrical stray spray, you holla "May day!"//lyrical slugs hittin you repeatedly like a tommy gun/but the result is a bombardment - atomic, DUN//hey, ho, check this, this dun Best is Q'in me/who? who's Q'in you? MORRIS, muphucka, cause I keep outdoin he//outspittin him, I bring his doom from my raps/even Satan like "Damn, I ain't know you could do a human like that!"//spittin all crazy, but you'll never really come and get me/you too busy jerkin to my inet picture, so why CUM against me?"

Whoa.

I'm out like Best Q'in me. Peace!

In response to Wiz, I wanna ask if you got some more news on that little beef. All I know is that Royce came on a Detroit radio station and pretty much said all of D-12 is shitty. And then D-12 made that diss record called "Smack Down." And Royce and his little brother made that Malcolm X track. But what lead to Royce dissing D-12 like that? From the way it looks, it seems like one of those typical beefs that is just propaganda to sell your record (e.g., Jay-z/Nas, Benzino, Big Jaz, Lil' Kim/Foxy, and the list goes on and on). Royce easily shits on D-12, but since his album flopped big time, this beef comes up out of nowhere! Makes you kinda wonder why? But seriously IMO, I don't think Em is going to devote a whole song on Royce for the simple fact that Royce is a one man army already going up against 5 other niggas. What point would it prove if it took Em & D-12 to murder one dude??? You see what I'm saying? Em was really hesitant to even do those tracks to Benzino (and that escalated to MTV). Also added to the fact, that as many times as Em has dissed people in the past. He has also given them the Canibus treatment too. Which means only a couple of bars thrown at them, and that's it. I don't know if it is a cardinal rule among rappers now that you cannot start a beef with Canibus or reply to him. It's amazing how everyone was giving him some love when he took on LL. But then when Wyclef left him, the whole industry locked him out of the game?? Could Wyclef really be that powerful among the rap industry????

"If you slew some crack, you'd make a lot more money than you do from rap..." - Eminem

This beef thing has gotten out of hand. At least we know Jay had his feelins hurt by Nas way back when which is why he took subtle shots, and Nas "had" to finally respond. Whatever. Now, D-12 and Royce Da 5-9??? Negro(es) please! Can someone end the madness? Just because someone looks at you wrong or won't do a track with or may not feel you is no reason to go making a diss about somebody! Oh well, maybe Common Sense will prevail in all this nonsense. Why can't we just have another heavyweight fight? No more Nelly's and KRS-1s, Jaz-Os and MC Get Busy.

Another thing: when you cats hoop, how do y'all play continuation fouls? For example, if I get fouled in the act of shooting and call foul AND the basket goes in, do I A) get the ball back but the point doesn't count or B) get the point and the other team take the ball out. Back home, I play the A way, but at school, I play the B way. What y'all think?

Nchekwube, I didn't get why you're clowning me for being on a squad named Ether. Enlighten me with your non shower usin African logic.

I'm out like continuation. Peace!

LMAO @ this cocaine sandwich eatin' ass nigga. Dun, just give the shit up. You're wack at everything you do. Nigga you tryin' to cover up, like Q aint ya DADDY....FUCK OUTTA HERE...talkin' about he "suggested" you stop the "beef"...so basically if Qool "suggested" that you go jump off a bridge, you'll do it...LOL...or better yet what if he "suggested" that you get a life or get some pussy, would you do it...well probably the life part, BUT pussy...I don't think you swing that way....FAGGOT!!

Also, FUCK OUTTA HERE with your lame ass attempts to try and discredit my lines by sayin' I "bit" them off of someone. Look at the dates jackass...the shit is like three fuckin' months apart...With all the postin' that was goin' on durin' that time...nobody in there right mind(well except for you) could remember all the shit that was "spat" or written. Shit I bet Q didn't even know of the "similar" lines we spat because if he did, he would have pointed them out the same way he pointed out me SUPPOSEDLY bitin' his "your my son" disses...Oh, I know what kind of response your lookin' for...I'm sorry B2K, I didn't "bit" them, I "reworked" them...

Now to your wiggidy wiggidy wiggidy wack(copyright Kris Kros) ass verse...Dun I can predict your horrid ass "spits" before you even type them. Since your FIRST SPIT, you have been usin' some kind of reference to say that I'm gay, I masterbate, the Kappas suck, me and Nas blah blah blah...shit to make matters worse you even brought "Sisqo" back into your garbage ass rhymes...LOL

In conclusion, get some skills before you come HOLLARIN'(copyright 2 Wack) at me. Oh yeah aren't you supposed to be a LAWYER(yeah right)...LOL...oh I get it your practicin' your dispute techniques by "arguin'" with me on the internet...LOL...One last thing...LMAO @ "Dru Hillis"(copyright Dru Hillis's Daddy)

I'M OUT WORDIE, WHAT, WHAT, DOWN SOUTH IN THIS BIATCH, HOLLA(LOL), PLAYA, WORDIE, WORDIE, WORDIE...The way B2K use to exit the thread....LOL....emotional ass nigga

I'm gone

"I got niggas in the project sellin water! I got niggas from New Orleans to Florida!" - Master P

1. You're a Kappa.
2. You love Nas.
3. You mastebate.
4. You're gay.

Spit what you know, eh?

Do you not understand how gay you sound trying to "prove" Qool is my daddy? How much longer will his dickridin go on, Muthaflippin Morris? Fine, gay nigga, you can speak on the Qool issue all you want if typin it makes you feel like you've won. I'm sure I'll see Dru Hillis 102093939239 more times from you just because he made it up. But again, why did YOU stop beefin?

Ahem... I don't understand why you're clownin me for bein on a squad named Ether. Please explain this "insult" you no soap usin Esco ho (copyright Qool).

"Cocaine sandwich eatin..." Are you serious???!!!

Do you think before you post? Check the following...

"Since your FIRST SPIT, you have been usin' some kind of reference to say that I'm gay..." The Best 3/10/03
"Or better yet what if he "suggested" that you get a life or get some pussy, would you do it...well probably the life part, BUT pussy...I don't think you swing that way....FAGGOT!!" The Best 3/10/03 (the same post)

So this nigga is gon try and call me out for usin gay references, but then call me gay. Again. (sigh) These cocaine fajita wrap eatin wammies...

All I do is call you gay or say something about Nas? FUCK OUTTA HERE! Nigga, I guess you've NEVER said I was gay, 3:16 was gay, Qool was gay. Oh, Best, you're so original, you've never used a gay reference before........ I'm lying. Check your last 578 flows! And against me, it'll be some kind of Pac diss or I'm gay or "You could spit dishwashing liquid and my flow will still be more clean..." Yeah, yeah, I know. Everybody's repetitive but you. FUCK OUTTA HERE! (copyright Muthaflippin Back) lol

Hey, here's an original verse just for Best: "Aiyo, check it, all your spits are like an EX IN LIVING COLOR FLY GIRL - they're all ASS!/and like PUFFY'S EX GIRL - even more ass!//nah, nah, aiyo, check it, ya flow could be like BEN AFFLECK'S CHICK and still be more ASS A NINE (asinine)!"

Whoa.

Cocaine sandwich? Come on now, Masterbate - oops, I mean Kaptivate.

I'm out like HOLLA since the 90s. Peace!

(Congratulations! This thread wins the Longest Average Post Award!)

LMAO @ the nigga above me...

Anywho, I was just readin' something by this cornball, and the nigga "said" something on the lines of 2 Wack being the main reason/influence of Nas and Jay's beef.....LMfuckin'AO...Dun, I am fuckin' tellin' you the 2 Wack nuthuggin' must stop....But that's all I have to comment on now...I be back later to continue clownin' this prickiddy prickiddy prickiddy prick(copyright Kris Kros)...

Oh yeah you and Master Penis are sort of similar...you know he's tryin' to rhyme WATER with FLORIDA...LOL...and you tried to rhyme INTRUSION with EXCLUSIVE...LOL...

I'm out like this nigga being a LAWYER...

First of all, cocaine sandwich had me CRACKin’ up…get it? Best, I did recall spiting a similar line about J. Lo, but I didn’t say anything to you because I didn’t want to be perceived as "feeling left out" which is what you accused me of the last time (which was false by the way). Anyway, The Brest and Road Kill 3000, y’all had me walking down memory lane with them quotes. I was trying to go to the second board, but I couldn’t get it open. How are you all doing it (are you dying ‘em?). Hill, pay attention, this could get confusing, but this is how I play. If I (Qool) shoot the ball and you (Hill) foul me and you (Hill) call "foul," I HAVE to accept the foul whether I hit or miss it. I get no points, but I do head to the top of the key for take out, meaning I retain the ball. However, if I am in the air when you hack me, you can’t just gimme a foul. If I’m in the air I have the option to accept the foul or refuse it (on the condition that you call it for me, but I of course could always call “foul” if you foul me). So if I hit the shot despite you hackin’ a brother and I don’t call foul, it’s my point and your ball. Got it? Questions? (Not to be confused with the fire filled volume titled "Questions"). H-Wood. Thanx for the info on the Em beef. The only song I really felt was Nail in the Coffin. Ben didn’t impress me at all yet. I listened to “We the Realest Label.” I read that this is a Murder skINC. diss, but how could it be when they don’t really call out anybody? I heard an old D-12 diss from Royce cuz and I hated it. Wiz, is the Malcolm X song really worth listening to? I’m going to take your word so tell me the truth. Oh yeah, no way do I think Wyclef has A LOT of pull in the rap world. For one, cuz does more singing than rapping. I like it from Lyurn Hill, but most people should either rap or sing (if you ask me) not both (Missy) (Ray J) but it was funny when Em did it twice. I think peeps just stop responding to Canibus, because he just got old. But in his defense, I feel his disses a lot more than joints from Royce, D-12, Jaz and the rest. Lastly, is it me or does it seem like since his sex charges, R. Kelly has dropped nothing but tight music via remixes, new joints and colabos? He has even wrote a few joints for others. Y’all heard his new joint with Ja? I usually don’t like Ja’s stuff, but this one is okay. Oh yeah, Hillis, I think you said you liked Aaliyah’s "I Miss You" but if you heard Jay’s remix of it, did you like that too?

"Bitch I killed Kenny, so I guess I'm that bastard!" - Mystikal

Qool, I am confused. So if I foul you on a shot and I call the foul for you, you have to accept the foul? Did you mean an "on the floor" foul or a shooting foul. Because I'm confused on the difference between me fouling you when you shoot and fouling you in the air. Because shooting means in the air, on the ground, layups, 3s etc. I meant like if I foul you and you are in the act of shooting (i.e. the NBA would either give you two/three foul shots or And 1) and you call the foul, AND you score, do you get the ball but lose the points, or do you get the points and the other team get the ball? Maybe the question is too confusing in general because niggas play all kinds of different ways. I haven't heard the Jay remix to I Miss You. Do I want to?

Now to this bliggidy bliggidy bliggidy bliggidy black ass African... You're a disgrace. You gon come at me with some "Hillis may have said" or "along the lines of" FUCK OUTTA HERE! You don't even know what you wanna say! lol Pac did have influence in the beef. Nas even samples Pac! What the fuck are you arguing against??? And you on that rhyme thing again? Just tell us THIRTY SIX and PREFERENCE rhyme, dumb ass...

Nigga, you could name your posts FUNNY BONE and they still wouldn't be HUMEROUS!

I'm out like this nigga graduating last semester. Peace!

Hillis, I like Jay's remix to "I Miss You." I think he flows a lil too fast and it would be better if he slowed it down some. But the lyrics are on point and overall, I say it's a good joint that will get multi listens from me. Most of the shots taken in the NBA and on the playground are probably in the air, so I see how I was confusing. But say I didn't get in the air yet, or say I'm on a fast break, or I pick up a loose ball, with all of those examples, I am still on the ground. If I get fouled in any of them instances, and you call it for me, I gotta take it. I have to accept the foul. Now if my feet are off the ground, and you give me foul and I make the shot, we ignore your foul; I get the points and you get the ball. If I miss, it's my ball. But to flat out answer the question you flat out asked, I'll say: If I call the foul, but I hit the shot, I get the ball back and that point doesn't count. I think this explanation is a lot more clear than the one before it, but let me know if I lost you (like I'd do on the court).

"Say I can't be boss/Ya'll candy soft/Just good at catching bullets like Randy Moss//" -- Joe Budden

"It's like she be smokin'/ played the movie wide-screen, she gone tell me half my tv's broken//" -- Joe Budden

"I'm back in the game shawty, to Rule and conquer/You sing for hoes and sound like the cookie monster
//" -- 50 Cent

I think Grenspun put pt. 2 along with pt. 1 on ilxor, so now you can get to it easily by just searching through the message boards. Try to check the Epic Throwdown section, and Qool and you should find it there. It's just a theory though, I'm not sure if it works, but I do remember running past pt. 1 when I was surfing around ilxor. That (Invasion) We The Realest song off that Green Lantern mixtape wasn't a direct diss to Murder stINC as you said. It was really just one line where he indirectly gets at them when he kinda makes reference to Ja at the beginning. In a magazine interview a few months ago before the beef with him and 50 escalated. He said he wouldn't hesitate to get at Em if he did in fact get involve with the beef between them. In the song Em says something like "Sooner or later I should have known I was bound to get pulled into some bullshit" etc. Just to clear it up a bit, that's why I said it was an indirect diss to Murda Inc... when in reality it was only one line???? It seems like 2003 is the year for the new wave for new MC's. I heard Jay, Ja, DMX, Dre and even at one point I heard Em was getting bored with just doing records. I can't believe it's almost been 10 years since we were introduced to Nas, Biggie, and Mobb Deep. So with this new wave of MC's coming in and these vets that are taking an exit. Who do think is going to be as successful as those MC who busted on the scene 10 years ago? Who has that potential?

"business is business, money is money, hustle is hustle, stupid is stupid, YOU THE DUMBEST OF DUMBEST"-Killa Cam

Aiyo, I checked my "last 578 flows", and all I saw was the most elaborate metaphors, nicest wordplay, and wittiest punchlines...without usin' a SISQO reference once...LOL

Also, I NEVER SAID that I didn't use a GAY reference, I just said that that's ALL YOU EVER USE IN YOUR teggidy teggidy terrible ass rhymes(copyright kris kros). Go and check you last 121323687346871637812638213 rhymes directed towards me and see that they have a FAGGOT reference.

I see that you still wanna HATE on my metaphors, but "spit" shit usin' MANDY MOORE...lol...Or even worse how about this one..."Uh, uh, uh, a FAGGOT to the second power is a KAPPA SQUARED"-Mr. "Somebody's Sleepin' in my Bed"...lol...please tell me you were JOKIN' with this WACK ass metaphor, or were you just "reworkin'" my "Albert Einstein/EMCEE SQUARED" line...or did you actually think that shit was tight...I hope it's not the last option.

Oh and I will be walkin' in May....

I'm out like this nigga havin' an internet job...LMAO

"We can jump each other's bones, but there's no jumping brooms..." - Killer Mike

Well, well, well! H3K is 23, and 23 is H3K! Here he is, boi! Here he is, boi! I'll be back to smash on this wack ass Herb Be Hand-cock (in here) African wanna be Kappa kane dropper. And in the process let Quincy Smith know that his little b-ball jabs aren't going unnoticed! Basically, I'll have TWO flows to drop on my official return... And trust oe will be FEROCIOUS and the other will be FIRE! But now it's time to celebrate the birthday of the year (mine, you nimwits). Y'all throw back 23 shots of sumthin for ya boy!

I'm out like 22 years. Peace!

Malcolm x is tight IMO royce chews bizarre and proof 2 new ones each.He even gets at em too. Proof claims this all started coz royce gettin jealous that em put 50 on and not him. Royce claim that this shit started coz he did a verse for em's anger management shit where he said " Fuck anger management, I need to hire somebody to manage my anger" then bizarre and d-12 went and convinced em that royce was dissin him. so em quit speakin to royce. I think royce can give em some decent competition...he's already swallowed the whole of d-12. Movin on...there was this ill track on hiphopgame.com by p@ckFM and a bunch of niggaz called "fuck u I rime better", it aint there nomore. Does anybody know where I can get that shit,coz thats about the illest shit I heard in a long time. Does anyone remember in the mid nineties when niggaz would have a song on they album with like five or six niggas spittin and no hook,eg jay-z "reservoir dogs",tupac, "got my mind made up",dmx "blackout"...they aint do that nomore these commercial ass queers.

"Can't leave rap alone, the game needs me..." - Jay-Z

I feel that way about this thread... anyway, Wiz, I never really felt Royce. But he doesn't suck and he definitely should have served D12. Now as far as the six niggas with no hook deal, I have no clue. But I DO know you just rambled off a few of my favorite songs of all time. Brought back good memories (got my gunpowder and my muskets... blauw!)

These cats really just want me to lace em with a lil somethin, huh?

"Aiyo, I checked my "last 578 flows", and all I saw was the most elaborate metaphors, nicest wordplay, and wittiest punchlines..." - The Best

And then you woke up from the wet dream you have about me - daily.

"Uh, uh, uh, I attack this wimp's heart with no remorse/hopin he and Nas can have more than VERBAL INTERCOURSE//and let's not mention how you been questioned by the police/cause rumor had it ya disillusioned ass put a hit out on KELIS (whoa)//musty ass bastard, we know you need Dial/beat his meat so much his penis got the "Battered Spouse Shelter" on speed dial//and now it wants out because it feels smothered/and girls call you "H*WOOD Poem" cause you're a GARBAGE LOVER! (lol)//you admire HILLIS cause his style can't be touched/but what's the REAL reason you love me so much?//is it the way I wear my hair?/is it the stylish clothes I wear? (lol)//you must be on my dick because you heard that I bless whores/negro, "Queens" ain't shit outside of a chess board (ouch)//you ain't cookin this beef right, it's simply underdone/yeah, your verses are close to PEE, but they still ain't NUMBER ONE..."

Yeah, so I used MANDY MOORE in a spit. You don't even know what it was and you're tying to clown it? You're pitful, dun. I guess you should be clowned for usin David Letterman in a spit or Steven Segal! "My notepad is so supreme, with letters like David, Man." You know that doesn't make sense, right? Oh, but all your flows were tight, right? FUCK OUTTA HERE! This negro used a gay reference in at least 565 of his last 578 flows, so I use a gay reference 100% of the time and he only does it 98% of the time. Whoa, I guess you got me there. Moron.

"But let me know if I lost you (like I'd do on the court)." - Qoolout

And then you woke up from the nightmare you have about me dunkin on your no skill(i)s havin ass.

"Uh, uh, uh, you keep speakin on hoops, so here's my retort/when you dribble, the ball's outta bounds more than it is in court//outhoopin me? come on, you sick, player/BIG described you best: "We called them the brick layers"//you play next to the bench, I play above the rim/you look ridiculous ballin, like a nigga hoopin in Lugz and Tims//I'm like the 92 Redskins, you the 92 Buffalo Bill(i)s/when it comes to hoops, you'll never be as wise as HILLIS//I'm one wise muthafucka, I'm nice wit mine/quick question, QUINCY, how'd yo ass like the pine?//you ball with a suitcase and plane tickets - you travel!/I'm tight with the rock, you shaky like gravel//you're just a "can't-get-with-this" who must be ill/and when the score is 21-2, the winner must be HILL/I lost FOOLOUT on the court, he's dizzy, head spinnin/now get off my sac and go get you some women!"

"What? It ain't no more to it." - B.I.G.

I'm out like this nigga makin x amount of figures in Houston. Peace!

I finally saw Em’s movie 8 mile. It was good, not great and not terrible. But a lot of the rhyming in it was close to excellent. And that makes yet another good movie with at least two rappers. Aw-ight, enough about that. Of course I had to come back against this so-called Hill who is really a speed bump bamma.

The Brick Layer...Slayer (Volume 32)

Is it Hillis or is it Hill-LIE?/ Cause cuz don’t want none of me and he want none of I/ Your retort about the court came up way too short/ just like you rework lines you need to rework wit the sport/ for me it’s never pine, thought I told you last rhyme/ the three’s like a PLEDGE-e’s…I live ON the LINE/ Matter fact I mean behind it/ and any HILL, I can CLIMB it, my joints RAIN in any CLIMATE/ The cross is so ferocious and yours is atrocious/ if you ain’t worse then Master P, you gotta be the closest/ I mean in rapping or ballin’ cause your shots are not fallin/ you got no business touching a mic or a Spaldin’/ Hold up, I beg the pardon you are like a Georghe Muresan/ All that height and no SKILLis; so cruel, so wrong/ TLC described you best: I don’t want no scrub/ the score might be 21 to 2 but you got the DUB/so SMOKE it, like I’ll smoke you/ the sorry TITans CHOKED and I bet you’ll choke too/ I never TRAVEL, dogg I’m LOCAL/ and my trash talk is on acCORD with my game, ergo I’m VOCAL/ my name is not Quincy but A, I do DRAIN (Adrain) em’/ you still ain’t convince me that your jumper be RAINin’/ It ain’t even DRIPIN’ and if I ride the pine, I know you be lickin’/ You are 23 now, but I’m JORDAN you’re PIPEN/ and we’re aware you ain’t really dunkin, it’s actually called BRICKin’

And yet another new word to add to the vocab: "brickin'." I would send you some more of this fire, but I’m about to go watch Boston Public. Besides, you’re guaranteed at least two more even hotter volumes. "Consider it a favor (til I need a favor)" -Scarface and Nas.

You're just a "can't-get-with-this" who must be ill/and when the score is 21-2, the winner must be HILL- H3K; Then you put down the control and cut off NBA Live.

"...and brush my waves, so I'm handsome when the bitches meet me"-Mase

Oh shit ANOTHER rhyme with GAY SHIT and NAS REFERENCES...must be a wack ass verse by Mr. "I Should Be Your Boyfriend"(copyright dru HILL)...

...and then just when you thought it couldn't get any worse..."when it comes to hoops, you'll never be as wise as HILLIS"...fuck man, now you're a WISE hooper...LMAO!! This nigga is gettin' cornier each time he posts. Oh yeah, about that MANDY MOORE trash...I don't need to know what it was about, jackass...the fact of the matter is, that you actually used a metaphor with reference to MANDY MOORE...LOL...Also, you know good and well that my "my notepad is so supreme with LETTERS like DAVID, MAN"...line was fire...because when I first used it towards your queer ass, you had nothing to say...now all of a sudden it "doesn't make sense"..."we don't believe you, you need more people"-Jay Z.

Lastly, Q destroyed you...flat out...no lie...if you don't believe me, these are the lines to prove it..."The cross is so ferocious and yours is atrocious/ if you ain’t worse then Master P, you gotta be the closest/ I mean in rapping or ballin’ cause your shots are not fallin/ you got no business touching a mic or a Spaldin’"-Qoolout...CHECKMATE...don't even waist your time respondin'

"Uh, uh, uh, a FAGGOT to the second power is a KAPPA SQUARED"-The Best's impersonator....and this line...you've got to be kiddin' me, you capitalized "faggot" and "kappa squared", like that shit was tight...lol

Oh yeah, Reliant Energy Corp. in Houston, TX is still jockin' my engineerin' skills ...I'm goin' to put my degree to use...you should try it...lol

I'm gone

"

First things first, I gotta give porps when props are due. That was one tight ass verse Qool, and I won't even front. I thought this would be one of those battles where we would come with a verse we made in about 5-10 minutes, but I see I'm gon need... more than 10. Trust, I will get back and I look forward to even more hotter volumes.... these brick layer slayers. But in this post I ain't got time to Bomb Third (My Reply), I just got time to embarass this kockblower.

Best... how do I put this... quite frankly, you're waisting my time. Duke, just when I think you couldn't get more... for lack of a better word, GAY, you just turn up the gay-i-ty meter. First off, I have to admit you really get to me when you do this "Oh, I just figured out something about Hillis!" when I make it pretty clear I'm getting at you indirectly. Maybe I'm giving you too much credit and I need to find someone more clever to beef with. For example, back on the old board when Qool first called me B2K, you lol at it in your next post, so in my next post I called you Bess. Then you go, "Oh, Qool already called me that!" I KNEW THAT!!! That's exactly why I called you Bess! MORON! Example 2: did you just now figure out that the KAPPA SQUARED diss was a remake of your MC squared line? Yes, Best, I got it from that line! However, I thought I made that VERY CLEAR when I first made it. I said, "I'm takin this diss from something the dissee said." I said that. Now, you're finally getting it? MORON! Example 3: one of my more recent flows had a Sisqo reference! Do you have any common sense? I know you'd say something about and that's why I put it in there! And here you go postin like I ain't know what I was doin!MORON! Now this last example really boggles the mind. You JUST said something about how I supposedly think I'm wise. You even used the phrase "one wise muthafucka!" So when you I used it in the flow, you couldn't tell I was gettin at you???!!! I said I was "one wise muthafucka!!!" Come on, Morrisana, that was obvious! I'm sorry but if you ain't get that then you're... fuck it, you're not even worth it. MORON! Maybe it's just not obvious to you. Because you're stupid. Maybe African wit is as different as African hygiene. So I guess I'm to blame for expecting you to be smart. My bad. I apologize.

But it doesn't stop there, Bestina (in case you didn't know, Bestina/Morrisana is a direct reference to those "clever" ass names you came up with like Stevina and Robreanna). Oh no, MISTER, you just DON'T STOP. This cat is "trying" (key word: trying) to clown me for the Nas and gay references but then in his last 12 posts has made reference to me usin MANDY MOORE! F-U-C-K-O-U-T-T-A-H-E-R-E! Duke, honestly, you've used JUST AS MANY gay references or "2 Wack" references so (get the) FUCK OUTTA HERE! And until you actually figure out what the MANDY MOORE line was, you just show how far it is of a stretch for you find material to clown me on. In fact, if Qool didn't come up with any fresh material for you to use/steal, I don't think you'd post! Face it, I could say the same thing you do. For example, this nigga spits shit usin STEVEN SEGAL, JENNIFER LOPEZ, DAVID LETTERMAN, THE SOURCE, etc. blah, blah, insert lame Best-style attempt at an argument here, etc. yadda, yadda.

But wait! There's more! NOW this nigga says I've never said anything about the DAVID LETTERMAN line! In any case, you've never said anything about Mandy Moore or Kappa Squared until now either (hint, hint, MORON), but we won't even go there. "Lukky" for you. The point is, I HAVE said something about the DAVID LETTERMAN line before. I won't post it now, but check the second board and you may find it. If you need me to, I'll post it. Just for you... this musty African.

Still going... First off it is really GAY for you to be Qool's hype man on the inet. As a man, I can admit Qool's verse was better than mine, but DAMN! I mean, Qool and I ain't even beefin and you feel like you gotta "protect" him from me! But anyway, how bout we not talk about Qool killin somebody until you figure out how to quit "Will Smithin" battles. "Dummy."

You know you like the Nas references...... because they're so true. You know the KELIS one was hilarious. You liked it. I know you wanna be my friend. lol... this nigga here. Sigh.

"I'm sure I'll see Dru Hillis 102093939239 more times from you (Best) just because he (Qool) made it up." - H3K 3/10/03

See? I AM one wise muthafucka!

I'm out like Dru Hillis and B2K will never be even though Qoolout said them only once. Peace!

"is it the way I wear my hair?/is it the stylish clothes I wear?"-B2Kadrian...oh my fuckin' gawd...for starters niggaz down heah still be rockin' high top fades, and s curls, and they consider stylish clothes to be P. Miller/ No Limit..you niggaz still wear FUBU...lol...lames

B2Kadrian/ Dru Hillis(copyright Q, but USED like a mothafucka by me to "get under your skin"..lol)...dun you just cannot be this fuckin' corny...you just cannot be. First off, why would you get at anyone indirectly on the INTERNET...what nigga, you scared of sayin' shit directly...lol...we are on the fuckin' internet...it's all jokes(well mostly true on your part), but it's all for laughs...I UNDERSTAND that this shit is your LIFE, but you don't have to take it so serious. I mean I know how BORING it can be down heah....shit, why you think I'm postin' so much...lol...but "back to the lecture at hand"...you need to calm your Buster Douglas lookin' ass down, and stop gettin' all EMOTIONAL. Also, this isn't BEEF...I DON'T KNOW YOU...this is something I do when all other events at Southern University fail.

Movin' right along...B2K...I don't care what you were tryin' to accomplish with that KAPPA SQUARED garbage...All I was doing was pointing out how wack it was...and how EVERY other line you "reworked"(which is basically all of your lines) after mine are horrible...Honestly, you should go and purchase some ORIGINALITY...I hear that it's on sale at Wal-Mart...you know, the place where you cop your gear...lol

Also, my spits pertainin' to J LO, STEVEN SEGAL etc...all had some kind of linkage/reference to what that person does or is known for...your premature metaphor "MOORE like MANDY" made no fuckin' sense at all...not only was it senseless, but it was so fuckin' lame...same goes for your "...he DIGGS TAYE"...trash, your "hard as cotton candy" garbage, your "jockin this cat harder than FRED FLINSTONE from DINO" wackness(lol), and your "CURTIS, a comic strip CHARACTER" bullshit...lol...oh yeah CHARACTER doesn't rhyme with STARE AT YA...MORON

"Still going"...just like I don't know you, I don't know a damn thing about Q, and could give a flyin' flickerin' fuck...I'm just tellin' it like it is...stop gettin' all gassed and shit...the nigga flat out DESTROYED you...you would think that after taking a harsh lyrical ass whippin' from me, and spittin' over a million verses...you would be able to handle a dude who RARELY ever laces a rhyme...lol...I mean the nigga even admitted that he's a novice in emceein'...and he's still gettin' in your ass(not literally...even though you want it to be)...Just be a good SON, and take this ass whippin' from your DADDY with enthusiasm...

Lastly, I don't wanna be your friend...I already know what's goin' on at this thread...you don't have to tell me...lol...Also, when you capitalized "I AM"...were you INDIRECTLY(lol) gettin' at me again...

I'm out like gettin' at niggaz INDIRECTLY on the INTERNET...LMAO!!

"I grew up without my pops, should that make me bitter? I caught cases I copped out, does that make me a quitter?" - 50 Cent

Qool, I remeber you clowning Yao Ming. Has he improved in your eyes? My next post will have my reply to yours, but good grief, Masterbate or Speculate or Estimate - Big Little whatever, is really proving he's a corny sounding muthafucka!

"Honestly, you should go and purchase some ORIGINALITY..."

Yeah. Right. All your insults are QOOLOUT'S horribly flipped! lol

"B2Kadrian/ Dru Hillis (copyright Q, but USED like a mothafucka by me to "get under your skin"..lol)..."

Well, yes. Used like a muthafucka by you because you lack insight to come up with your own clever shit! It doesn't get under my skin, but I wasn't sure if you realize how pathetic you look using the insults of someone who doesn't need to use them 1002002992 times because he can come up with something else. But I guess you DO realize it. If you notice, I don't call you Bess or The Breast because I don't need to. But I guess since your lame attempts at "nicknames" (see Steveina) don't go so well, I guess I can understand why you STEAL! lol

I NEVER said "MOORE like MANDY." Face it, until you figure out what was actually spat, you'll just continue to be wrong. So go find the WHOLE line and THEN "try" and clown it. And I didn't only say "he DIGGS TAYE." I said he "watches THE BEST MAN cause he DIG(g)S TAYE." See, Taye Diggs was in a movie called The Best Man. See? There's a linkage/reference to something Taye Diggs did or is known for. Oh, did that go above you? lol And just for shits and giggles - what linkage does DAVID LETTERMAN and a "supreme notepad" have? lol (I told you it made no sense).

"Oh yeah CHARACTER doesn't rhyme with STARE AT YA..."

You must be runnin out of material again because you're really reaching. But FYI... STOP IT and PAC DID don't rhyme either. lol And while I was on a Lewis and Clark journey... "All your garbage on this thread equals to irrelevant/and me tryin to be you? kid you're SOFTER than GELATIN" The Best 3/24/02 LMAO! Like you told me, GELATIN DOESN'T RHYME WITH IRRELEVANT! (ahem, in case you didn't know, you just got caught double talkin).

"First off, why would you get at anyone indirectly on the INTERNET...what nigga, you scared of sayin' shit directly..."

Aiyo check it, why would you ask if I was "scared?" lol I've gotten at you directly numerous times! What the fuck are you talking about? Nigga, I use them BOTH because indirect disses are just as funny as direct ones. See, I don't have to come right out and say fuck Best, blah, blah, blah, just to clown you. I guess it's way above you because you have to ask everytime I do something or maybe you're just too busy eating cocaine sandwiches (hint, hint). I don't know.

"Also, this isn't BEEF...I DON'T KNOW YOU"

So if it ain't beef, what is it? Of course this ain't real live beef. I ain't threatin to kick your ass or trying to find you and fight you or no shit like that, but I would definitely say this is beef over the internet. If it ain't, then what is it? And I've called this beef before. Like you ask, why you just now sayin somethin? Huh?

"Shit, why you think I'm postin so much... this is something I do when all other events at Southern University fail."

Ummmm... I didn't say anything about your recent post frequency. Why do you feel the need to "explain" yourself? You did a couple days ago and tried to work in how bored you were because you fuck so many bitches (LMAO @ this crack taco eatin nigga tryin to prove to us he has sex!). You self conscious, nigga? Not so sure of yourself anymore? lol I'm not tryin to put some "post limit" on the thread like you do. Nigga, this is the internet, so post as often as you want. You ain't gotta explain yourself to me. It's ok, lil man, you can post. It's all right. It's ok. lol

I promise this is the last time I will ever mention Qoolout in respect to our beef, even if you continue to steal, I mean "use like a muthafucka" Dru Hillis and B2K. But I guess this nigga asked for it. I didn't feel the need to mention this anytime before because I feel it is GAY to try and pull another nigga into my beefs. So I don't really need to bring up what Qool did to you because the point is, QOOL did it: not me. I've served you plenty of times on my own. But let's talk about what happened a year ago.

First, Qool and I had our lightweight hoop disses for fun and then you noticed his skills. And for the record Qool is not a novice. He just rarely spits; there's a difference. And Qool never said he's a novice, he just said he's not the best (but better than you, lol). But anyway, you begged him for a battle, Qool wasn't really feelin it so you dropped your first verse at him outta the blue waitin for his response. And in all honesty Qoolout ripped you about 17 new assholes. And the way he did it was classic. As usual you were trying to impress everybody by being the "Allah of metaphors" and Qool just reversed all your corny ass wanna be tight lines and just MURKED you. MURKED! He said "Save the Allah talk, I am Christian." MURKED. He said, "If this was court I'd sue." MURKED. He said "And in your beef with Hillis 1000 times: TOMATOES! When was that in?" MURKED. He said, "And Steph called you puss and you ain't even contest." MURKED. He said "You beefed with about 99% of the board, that proves you are hated." MURKED. In his last spit he made it so you couldn't respond. He said you could have the last word like a female if you want it. But you couldn't take it like you wanted to. MURKED. He said, "And we all know the truth; you really Will Smithed-it/a great actor, but not the best rapper/went from a wanna be master to a wanna be Kappa." MURKED. But the #1 all time funniest line from that whole encounter? "And when you mentioned Arlington, that was too funny/because it's in Virgina; I live in DC, dummy." LMAOWMXA!!! I bet you really thought that Arlington line was tight cause you thought it was in DC. Don't even lie, you know he fucked yo ass up when he spat that! Aiyo check it, you got MURKED, MURDERED, SLAUGHTERED, DESTROYED, etcetera, etcetera. You BEGGED Qoolout to battle and you got yo ass SERVED. See, I didn't go lookin for a fight with Qool. You did and got your ass waxed (not literally, even though you'd like it to be). Somebody go get that man a map!

I'm sure you'll try and say Qoolout served me more, blah, blah. Go ahead. I don't care. Say Qool's name (copyright Beyonce) all your heart desires. You've done this before when Wizzard spit a verse at me and you rambled on about how he killed me (which I am neither confirming or denying). But I spit something at you on 3/27/02 and Wizzard stated his opinion on it. lol Sure, Qool's verse was better. But if you're honest with yourself, you know he lyrically defaced you without using any metaphors. And that STILL eats you alive, lol. Fact is, this between me and you, not Qool, Wiz, etc. But if it makes you feel better about the embarassing L that you brought on yourself by being Qool's hype man (since Nas has a restraining order on you) then go ahead. Talk about all our battles. I don't care! Say everybody kills me! I don't care. Because when it comes to killing you - I Know I Can (I know I can, lol) and I ain't even gotta work hard at it...

"The HOLY GHOST could write ya flow and it still wouldn't be tight" - The Best 3/10/02

Sigh. Another one of you formula lines, used by you back when Qoolout turned you into his punching bag. Does it ever end?

"Lastly, I don't wanna be your friend."

Yeah you do. Quit lyin. lol

I'm out like Arlington Cemetary. Peace!

What up I-Net Fam-o? First of all, I am flattered, but I'ma leve it at that because I'm not trying to get mixed up in what Best and Hill got gonna on here. Once again, I know I'm late but I finally heard all of Nas' "God's Son." I actually had it for awhile but never opened it. I listend to it and really enjoyed it. Which brings us to the new (but very old) question. Which was a better CD? God's Son or Blueprint 2? I'ma cast my vote for Nas, not because I like him more, but because BP2 just wasn't up to par. To me it didn't even deserved to be called Blueprint "TWO." BP1 was good, but BP2 had more songs, but fewer tight tracks. So that's my opinion, everyone else, please share yours. Discuss. Also, Best, Hillis, H-Wood, Wiz or whoever, go recuite some new posters; hit hiphopgame.com or something, and tell them to come over here, lol. Oh a completely different note, I don't know if anybody else is into it or not, but I just read Al Sharpton's book, "Al On America" and it's tight. Lastly, all of the qoutes from the old voulmes got me wanting to re-read them and I discovered a huge flaw. I never made a V-17. I just skipped from 16 to 18, lol. Okay, I'm gone.

To these two posters: Hillis and The Best: If I didn't know any better I would have seriously thought you two were brothers. I'm dead serious. With all the name-calling, insulting, and fishing on other posters here, anybody would have been fooled into thinking just that. Good ol' brothers. But it's all kinda sweet, really. Reminds me of me and my brother.

LOL, at the dude above me. That's a classic line right there. But to Qoolout's question about BP2, and God Son. There is no question that God Son blows it out the water. The only flaw I had was with the absents of his long time Producers (Trackmasters, Dj Primo , etc.). Everything else was on point. I have always been a fan of Nas for the concepts he puts into his albums. He reinvents himself in every album like "Rewind" & on this album "Book of Rhymes." Nobody in the game right now is at the skill level to even attempt to take a stab at doing concept rap songs. As for BP2, Jay-z already knew before that CD even came out it was bullshit. He said it wasn't his true vision for it, all they did was put songs he had previously made in 2001-02 and slap them all on two CD's. I think I remembered him saying only 10 songs on there he recorded for Blueprint 2, the others were songs that were meant on be on other projects but didn't make the cut. It's no surprise he is trying a lame ass attempt to sell The Blueprint 2.1 which is a reworked version of The original Blueprint 2 with two extra tracks which have been on the streets for months now. When the artist himself has to re-release an album, because he didn't like the outcome of it the first time, you know it was a failure. It just seems like Jay-z has lost his creativity over the years. Me personally I am tired of the status quote that every rapper now has pushed weight in the pass, or according to some still are pushing around their streets. I'm not denying that some have done it, but it's little unrealistic when 80% of the rappers have done it. Jay-z & Biggie both glorified their struggles of the drug game in their rhymes. But what separated them from guys like Clipse or Fab was the fact they went deep into why they did it, and other dimensions that rappers of today don't even touch on. Of course it's obvious they were telling fictional stories about the drug game and what they went through. But they gave substance to their rhymes. Now Jay sounds like every other rapper that raps about the game. A very serious contrast to the music he made on RD. He was once "one of many," now he's "one within many." Final word: God's Son blows BP2 out the water.

Happy April to all. A brother's b-day is coming up on the 15th of this month. Happy belated to Hill. In case y'all ain't know, we had a great turnout for the the affirmative action (AA) issue/ protest here in D.C. And we got that cuz on his tractor out of the pond about a week ago. But concering the AA factor...does anybody wanna share their thoughts on the matter? I say we do need it because like the Rev. Al said, "We need THIS treatment because we had special mistreatment for so long." Anyway, I meant to address the Jay-Z "BP2 point whatever" thing in my last post. How is cuz gonna re-release a cd that was weak with just 2 new songs? I’m sorry but 2 more tight songs wouldn’t make that a tight CD. I think cousin needs to just focus on his next project and take the L with this one. If this "second try" effort brings in a good number of sales, we are gonna have everybody tryin' this.

"Michael Tyler make ya shake it, Sisqo make you show ya thong..." - David Banner

"First of all, I am flattered..."

Well, we'll just have to do something about that then, won't we?

"Uh, uh, uh, this bout hoops and not rappin so don't try and distract me/PERCY versus NONCHALANT........... exactly//SQUIRLPLISE can outpit you, BOB can outball you/if ya mom needed a son that hoop, SHE wouldn't call you//I'll treat you real bad like SLUTS in DA SOUTH/I don't just ball; I turn niggas gay when I dunk and put my NUTS in they MOUTH//the task of beatin me would SIMPLY BE HELL/MURESAN was NBA, you couldn't benchwarm NBDL//your defense is HACK ATTACK, you need to be SMACKED/whether basketball or bitches, you can call me T(he) MAC(k)//my D "tag team"s with my O to prove you to be WACK/you only average a NICKEL, SON, but on me you won't hit JACK//you LOCAL, I'm UNIVERSAL, my fabulous GAME is KNOWN/"solid baller" is a moniker you're too LAME to OWN//my defense is pure theft, it can't shake the label/after I take your rock, you'll be akin me to get you free cable!"

"You are 23 now, but I'm JORDAN, you're PIPPEN..."

And then the effect from the painkillers you needed for that broken ankle my cross gave you wore off.

Now normally I don't do this, but go on and break em off with a lil preview of the remix........ Now, I'm not tryin to be discreet, but you don't wanna put on the cleats, you know that you'll get beat, I will shake you off yo feet, scorin all the time is Hill, Qool is just run of the mill, ask any football coach, I will embarass you on the field...

I'm out like painkillers for ankles in drug stores after I crossed over Qoolout. Peace!

The "Well we'll have to do something about that" had me laughin' but I'm still bringin' the new un-numbered volume (to make up for missin' V-17) YGB. Don’t you know I invented the D-Fence (Diss) on this thread back in the Anny days? And you got a nerve to mention your alleged ferocious D? Here is some more fire for you. Don't take this but whippin' personal.

You're GARBAGE, BROTHER (the un-numbered joint)

Hill-shire, you liar, you ain’t wise/ on the court I’d send fire, like you ain’t baptized/ You need to realize no matter how much you despise me/ I can beat you in B-Ball with a hand tied behind me./ You speak on the subject, WHY??? You’re not a hooper man./ My heights are too high, you’d call me superman/ But we’ll never be playin’, well not each other/ your SKILLiS aren’t up to par, they’re GARBAGE, BROTHER/ Ether will get SMOKED like REEFER, what kind of Squad were you on?/ I think y’all were really cheerleaders with batons and pompoms/ Get on the sideline, like I’m sure your coach tole you/ The truth is I’m better, must the score really show you?/ Must you learn the hard-way? I’m Hardaway when he was a rookie/ Timmy or Penny, either way you’d get shook G/ Do you really believe you can check me?/ Your shots would be rejected and I don’t mean indirectly/ I am better man; my cross is insane/ You can call me the WEATHER-man, cause I PREDICT RAIN/ My jumper’s WETTER man, why suffer thru the pain?/ Play some EA SPORTS, if you really wanna be "IN THE GAME."

Don't you know when I step on the court they yell "D-Block!" don't you know? Because I'm shooting! (Aw, made you look). Look out for the next installment, Volu-tized (V-33).

My D "tag team"s with my O to prove you to be WACK/you only average a NICKEL, SON, but on me you won't hit JACK/- H3K
Then you put down the pen and took a break from your up and coming, FICTION, children's story.

Hello fellas what is up? Yall wouldn't believe how hard it was to find the link back here. Even went as far as typing your names on Google...lol. Anyway, I was reading posts from since my last visit here and I saw what appeared to be beef between Qool and Hollywood?! Also, I can see Hill and the Best are still going at each other. Well, as I always say, whatever floats ya boat. Some comment you've got, Khalil...lol.

Just a few thoughts: Forget comparing God's Son to BP2 cause BP2 is major crap. And what is up with BP2.1??? Double LP my foot. I'ma ask yall a question. Is it wrong to rep Jay because of his filipino blood (I'm part-filipino, just like him) and only because of that? Cause he's really losing his touch. I remember when Foxy Brown first came out and Filipino-Americans automatically bought her album just because they thought she was part-filipino. Turned out she's not. LOL.

Moving on, funny how yall should mention Dru Hill. I can't believe how much crap he'd become over time. Off-topic, but I'm lstening to Musiq Soulchild right now. Now I KNOW this man has talent. C'mon, fellas, give him his props. And I'm out.

"Stand on my left girl, I know you ain't right..." - Nelly

What in the hell...?

I just came to drop some knowledge on you cats. I have seen Nelly's Pimp Juice video and that shit has me rollin. Th video is wack, but it makes his wack ass lines even more hilarious. This nigga says, "You ain't from Russia, so why you rushin?" Russian? Rushin? BOOOOOOOOOOOO! Get off the stage!

Qool, what's your take on Yao Ming now? And trust me, I'm gon be on you like white on rice with my next ferocious, fire ass verse. MTV and BET spokesmen gon be jockin my skills. My next verse gon have you flabbergasted. It'll be something I said...

You know you wanna put ya feet on my rug don't ya? You really wanna put ya feet on my rug don't ya?

I'm out like cuttin her loose. Peace!

What up Faye? Glad you found your way back here. Hillis, Yao is still not that tight to me. People are still hypin' cuz like he is the best thing in the NBA. But with that said, I must say, "I stand corrected." Even if cuz ain't "all that." He is still way, way, way better than I predicted. I just knew he was going to be like you the man you modeled your game after: G. Muresan. So I admit that I was wrong on the point. Cuz is okay. Oh yeah Khalil, Best and Hill brothers? LOL, that was funny. Moving on, did anybody hear Ja's diss to 50 and Em? Or their diss back to him? Ja's best part was the last line when he INDIRECTLY (Hills style, lol) said that Em's daughter will be a (for lack of a better word) slut, while getting at Em's wife and mother in the same line. And on the come back Em and 50 sampled a Pac diss (Nas style) as well as Hail Mary; I can't believe I'm typing this but I think I liked 50's verse better than Em's. It did have me cracking up and maybe that's why I liked it more. Anyway, check it out and let me know what y'all think.

I got the full version with Busta's verse on it (Holla at me at "Ohollyw" on AIM or E-mail me if you want it). Em didn't really devote his fire to Ja on that song. He made this other song on the Green Lantern mixtape called "Oh No U Didn't" IMO he did a much better job on that track than what he did on the Hail Mary (remix). 50's lines was sub-par too, but he got me with that Larry Holmes line when he called Irv flabby and sick LOL! Busta... Well, this nigga is too happy to really get mad at anyone. Kinda expected that when he laid down that verse, the dude ran wit Tribe Called Quest for god's sake! Busta wasn't into it at all, you could kinda tell Chris Lightly put him on to it. Somebody tell me what purpose was it for Ja to diss Lil' Mo for? That shit kinda reminds me of how stupid Pac looked when he devoted a whole song to Wendy Williams all because she said he got raped in jail. It was a funny diss, but it was kinda uncalled for it's not like Wendy was going to go on a record and spit something back. A couple of lyrical stabs would have been enough, but instead he went with the low blow. In the process it made him look like a bully to a lot of people. Suge forced Pac to make stupid decisions like that, and it's not a coincidence Suge is running with Ja now....hmm!

yo yo yo... its the M, the A to the C-K-A/and oh my GOD, i'm back to play!

Just to shout y'all out... 3:16 be BACK... give me a day or 2 to read all the posts and i'll comment on them, but for now i'm busy my peeps!

Peace

"MAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-CKA/remember I told ya/I'm a soldier/drop this in the club and its all over... its all over?... ITS ALL OVER!"

Now you sampled me you can add some credibilty to your joint.

Read all them shits above this... and it dont look like I got much to say at this point. I aint been up to date with the NBA, I aint heard the Ja diss, I aint done shit! ah well...

Dont worry my niggas... i'll be back in a hot minute

Peace

"Cause he got hit like I got hit, but he ain't fuckin breathin..." - 50 Cent

Welcome back 3:16 (U Never Imagined This Evil Dilemma King INvincible Getting Down On a Measure) and Faye (what's the 88 for? lol)! You're just in time to witness me MURK Foolout/All Doubt/No Clout/Quincy Smith, etc. etc...

"Uh, uh, uh, your flow is gettin perposterous; you're way too overzealous/my J is so WET even WATER gets jealous/on defense I intercept like DEION, I seek passes/if you could SMELL my game, then you know I WREAK (reek) HAVOC//your cross ain't "A-I" and you're just a "B-I" who wants to "B-I"/you don't wanna "C-I" and damn sure don't wanna "D-I"//all my opponents I kill, dead, and hearse em/you suck at hoops, but at least you're a nice person//I'll RAZZLE DAZZLE you with my ABRACADABRA and HOCUS POCUS/your ankles will be yelling, "HELP! HILLIS BROKE US!"//leavin you dizzy and dazed, "clearly" out of FOCUS/my game is heralded like the movie MR. HOLLAND'S OPUS//your jumper's wetter? you rain? nigga, you ain't plausible/even though we are both known to do the impossible/with me, I leave the crowd mesmerized and awed/with you, it's because people didn't think your game could be more flawed//speakin on ETHER, maybe TEAM 3 should take up the CHEER SPORT/I jump so high, I ball at the airport, oops! I mean CLEARPORT//you ain't ready for this level I'm ENTERIN/in the blank next to H3K, you can ENTER "WIN"//and that means QOOLOUT takes the LOSS that's FEROCIOUS/now who's STUCK ON STUPID with the CROSS that's ATROCIOUS? (you, that's who)//you aren't tight, you aren't raw, you AREN'T GOOD/do you actually like basketball? or just the "hard wood?" (lol)//you are an amatuer, ROOKIE, I'm DREAM TEAM ONE/ you beatin me? only on your "Dream" Team, son..."

"I think y'all were really cheerleaders with batons and pompoms" - Qoolout

And then you realized the subject was the great HILLIS 3000 and not some non hoopin DC loser (like yourself).

Dummy.

I'm out like Team 3 in the first round. Peace!

I heard the Hail Mary 2003 joint with Busta. I never really liked him and this verse just reminds me why. Over here, Em's, 50's and Busta's diss to Ja is gettin' plently of air-play but Ja is gettin' zero (like Hillis on the court). I wonder why. Anybody else see Head of State with my boy Chris Rock? "If your child has books from 1960, but the school has brand new metal detectors, that ain't right." LOL

You’re Gar-bo Bro (THIS IS THE REMIX) Volume 33.1

Your flow is too weak, you need to stop lyin'/ Your game's so stupid, it’s double parked by a hydran'/ Ether were some girls, I'll smoke y'all cowards/ Now I know why Squirrel ain’t like most of y'all cowards/ About your "abracadabra," I saw magicians revealed/ So I'll turn you into a CADAVER, which means I'll KILL Hill/ Forget A.I. dogg the kids try to mock me/ I'll chin check you so hard you'd think it's hoc-key/ You ain't hardly better, your J ain't hardly wetter/ If Ether ever played me, I guarantee an up-setter/I'm physical like Barkley, my D is nasty like broccoli/ How could you ever stop me? I ride on enemies like Pac be/Your game's so sloppy; it's no way you can top me/ I'm automatic in the paint and clutch where the arc be/ you couldn't even drop three if you retired 3 jerseys/ I hate hardwood, I play on blacktop/ And you ain't really got heights, you just gotta high flattop/ You can not handle the rock, I'll prove it in flip-flops/ You don't know b-ball and you never met hip-hop/ Team 3 drafted me, I had no say so/ But Ether was handpicked and they still were GAR-BO/ BRO you're "D" is Dumbo, your "O" ain’t even so-so/ And the answer is "no, no" you can't be my Ho, Ho.

"you are an amateur, ROOKIE, I'm DREAM TEAM ONE"- H3K
Then you took off the virtual reality helmet and returned to your real (non hoopin’) life.

"Picture me bein scared of a nigga that breathe the same air as me..." - B.I.G.

LMAO @ "Your game's so stupid it double parked by a hydrant..."

Man, I can't wait to murk you like... like.. like Yao would murk Muresan... lol

I'm out like my game gettin towed. Peace!

"Fee fi fo fum, I smell a ounce of that good and a fifth of rum..." - Ludacris

What the fuck? Where in the hell did everybody go? I make a hiatus and y'all bizounce like Olivia up in this biznitch! Oh well...

There's a lot of shit to discuss. I ain't gon do it all cause I want to at least see if anybody will respond for I go of postin. And plus, I still gotta murk Qool (how? with lyrics that hit like a gun the size of Lil Bow Wow)!

I read XXL and Ja and Gotti are all up in it. That shit was straight, but some of it had me sayin, "Negro please." Like when Ja beat 50 with a crutch and had him in a corner. I find that hard to believe. And then Gotti said that Ja and DMX don't sound alike because Ja was risky enough to do all them R&B hits. Yeah... Right... And that Hail Mary track is all over the airwaves. Of course the beat is hot and it's mad entertaining to listen to them use Pac lines. I can't decide if Busta's lines are tight. I mean, lyrically, they're well written, but Busta gettin all emotional and mushy? A G like me can't even call it (23 year old pussy fiendin freakaholic - who said that? lol). But isn't it funny that 50 says "When yo little sweet ass gon come out of the closet?" but that line is originally intended for Dre? I also have to take back when I said 50 was wack. 50 is good. Real good. His album has too many cuts for me to hate on. PIMP, Many Men, Patiently Waiting, Don't Push Me, and now In Da Club has grown on me! 21 Questions and a few others are tight, too.

When I return, I'll go ahead and re-live the original intent of this thread... the Jay-Z/Nas beef. I think now that the smoke is settled, we can all evaluate BP1 (not 2.1 or 7.64) and Stillmatic with clear heads. Well, most of us. Ahem...

I been patiently waitin for a post to explode on...

I'm out like ALL y'all micky fickys. Peace!

"He said one day I'll understand little me, what's inside you's inside me..." - Nas

Oh yeah, I seen Head of State as well. The best part is when the VP was in the office with his assistant and Chris Rock said the VP's mama's ass was so big that when she sit down she three feet taller. The assistant was like he can't talk about yo mama like that and the VP said he ain't care. So the VP's mama came in and smacked and she had this fat ass! I was rollin. I also seen X-Men 2 and that shit was tight. But y'all know I'm waitin for Matrix 2. Me and my boys gon sneak a video camera up in that mug, too. It's gon be on.

Ok, I'm gone for real now.

I'm out like the VP. Peace!

"Its the M, the A to the C-K-A/and if I wasn't I'm about to fuck up your day"

Damn... where is everyone? heeeeeeeellllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooo? no? ok

Just dropping by to check on y'all but there aint shit to check on so I aint got much to say, except you should look up this chick Terri Walker. Trust me. And if you fed up with all these Neptune beats going round (Britney to Busta? what the fuck) and you want to hear a tight beat again, look up the track "Solaar Pleure" by MC Solaar. You won't know the words cos they french but the beat is tight as a mofo

I'm out like side... get it... out, side? oh very funny

Peace

"That ecstacy got all you emotional and mushy..." - Eminem

Fuckin Lakers lost.

Nothin else to say man, fuckin Lakers lost!

Ok, I got more to say. When I returned I planned to discuss Blueprint and Stillmatic (and murk Qool), but these damn Lakers. First and foremost, let me remind you that the Lakers should have won their fourth title. They are better than the Spurs and they gave them this series. I blame...... Shaquille O'Neal. Ever since his first title he has progressively lost his heart and played like ass. His first season he had something to prove and he dominated left and right. Defensively, offensively, assists, blocks, 40 points, 20 rebounds. He was an unstoppable monster who could not be... stopped. Now? He is an overweight, unconcerned center who plays 65%-75% and sometimes (but very rarely, actually) plays above 90%. He didn't want it and thus, the Lakers couldn't get it. No matter how hard Kobe tried to carry this team this year, it could not be done simply because Shaq was bullshittin! All season. See, that's the difference between the Bulls and the Lakers. Michael Jordan hated losing. A loss in the playoffs was as bad as a loss in the regular season. He came to the challenge every time he laced up the sneakers. Shaq? Hardly. Kobe brings it, but he's not Jordan and he can't do what Shaq does. Kobe promotes a stand and watch attitude, but Shaq involves his teammates. But not this year. Shaq's been immovable, in a bad way. He's a slug up and down the court and he simply does not finish. He only got hype once this season. That was to play Yao Ming. Other than that, he had a hum drum year, I pray that this embarassment of the once dominant Shaquille O'Neal fuels his fire to return 20 pounds lighter and with more of a determination to prove the critics wrong who say the Lakers are over. Kobe, Fish, Horry, Phil, and everyone else will bring it. Will Shaq? I thinks so.

Now the Spurs? Good God. I bet they're voted team people least likely want to see win a championship. I used to like Tim Duncan a lot, but now, after watching this crybaby pout and boohoo his way through this series (and undeservingly win the MVP... AGAIN), I definitely don't want to watch him play ball anymore. I might not watch the NBA again, unless AI and Dallas meet in the finals. Still, could anyone imagine a... Spurs versus... Detroit FINAL???!!! Agh! The horror!

Macka! The man who singlehandedly keeps London Bridge from falling down! What up?!

I'm out like a Spurs/Pistons series. Peace!

It looks like the board has really reached its end. I mean REALLY this time. Well, it was fun while it lasted for me. Hillis, I don't think I'm releasing another volume, even if I did have the perfect name for the 3mix. "You're Junk Punk," (Junk, Junk, Junk) B2K style lol. Anyway, a brother got a new J-O and they GAVE me a FREE cell and a two-way (but I don't know another soul with a two way, so I just gotta walk around with it, unable to two-way anybody else, lol) and I've been busy. So I come back to the board and it looks like everybody rolled outtie. I just had to post anyway because the LA Fakers finally lost and I had to let Hill know this info. Kobe was the only one that worked on his game and thus they got that L. Them bammas were crying! LOL, that was funny, sad but funny. I know I can't talk because the Wiz ain't even win 40 games and then this clown Abe Pollen fires MJ, the 1st real spark that Washington B-Ball has had in years. This clown is trying real hard to make me cheer for another team. But enought about that... and more about rap. Jay-Z had took two already good R&B songs and turned them into great songs. He did it with Mya's "Best of Me" and with R. Kelly's "Fiesta" (outshining my dogg JadaKiss in the process both times) and now he's hooked up yet another one, which I predict well be as hot as the two mentioned. His verse on Beyonce's Crazy in Love is tight. Matter of fact, most of the stuff I've been hearing from him lately is on point. I can't stand Excuse Me Miss, but just about everything since then has been above average. Oh yeah, what's up with cuz Angelous sounding just like him? I'm sure someone heard of him before now, but his song A.N.G.E.L was my 1st intro to him. And on that song he can flow, but sounding just like Jay ain't the way to go about it. Aw-ight y'all; I'm gone. It was fun. Holla at me if there is another good rap thread out there on the World Wide Web.

"Have you seein doubles like Noah..." - B.I.G.

Well, it does look like it may be comin to an end, but I'll try and give it a few more zaps in the heart. But I been meanin to speak on BP and Stillmatic so here goes...

The Blueprint and Stillmatic are without a doubt classics. How can they not be? The impact both these albums are right up there with Illmatic, Doggystyle, 400 Degreez, Marshall LP, etc. At first I thought it was bogus that The Source gave BP and Stillmatic 5 mics. But I can see their point now. To me, BP is at least 4 1/2 and Stillmatic is 4. The production on BP was 6 mics and Jay-Z laced most tracks quite nicely. My favorite song on it was U Don't Know. Takeover, Renegade, Song Cry, Girls rmx, Girls, Jigga That Nigga, Hola Hovito, and Izzo. Plus my sleeper, All I Need, were all fire. And with the disappointing Roc La Familia, as well as Volume 3 falling short to its "Thriller" prediction, just made it more memorable. Stillmatic had some fire tracks as well. My favorite is 2nd Childhood. Ether, Rewind, You're Da Man, Destroy and Rebuild were all classic to me. One Mic got a TON of love (even though I hate it) so it's pretty clear that these two albums deserved the hype. I personally still feel Jay is better, BP is better than Stillmatic, and I think Ether and Takeover tied. That being said, I would have to say Nas won this battle. Not because his diss(es) were better, but because of how his diss(es) affected Jay. Jay came back with tons of one liners, a mix he recanted on, and a diss called BP2 that showed that he had his feelings hurt. He even tried to battle Nas on PPV! Nas, on the other hand, moved on content that he had used Jigga to re-establish the buzz around his forgotten name. As Qool put it, that man Jay sounded like he wanted to cry (nicca).

So there is my assessment of the 2 albums that started all this here ish. If anybody sees this well written piece of literary art remains to be seen. But there it is, as I promised.

I'm out like this thread will soon be. Peace!

If this shit is ghost then who the fuck am I supposed to confirm the fact that Rugby whoops American football all over the shit... who can I inform that Dirty Sanchez whoops Jackass... ah well

Lets look back then my fellas...

Jay-Z started the shit to put himself in the history books. To be the best you got to beat the best... who was the best, other the hove, hmmm... Canibus, hell no... GZA, nope... oh, NAS! Thing is, after the whole summer jam shit, Nas reacted but real subtle and shit, Jay probably took it too far so it made it look like nas was just punking him out. All the other rappers affiliated with the two, mobb deep, beans, bleek etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc, took it upon themselves to make a name for themselves. Hove brought beefin' back into the mainstream. ffwd a bit, and for a shit long amount of time, us on here been discussing it.

Jay-Z vs Nas

Blueprint vs stILLmatic

BP2 vs God's Son

The ROC vs half of QB

Who won? On lyrics alone, Jay, the way each reacted to it, Nas. This shit is evens man.

all that shit has been on here, plus a shitload more... And in five years when some dude releases volumes 1 to 1943882347, any of mines, any of Back (AH SHIT!!!! - Boob... BEST!), Ill Hill, J to the Dolo and all these mans, i'm getting this shit printed out and getting a mil in publishing and shit...

Is this the last? DAMN!

Leaving y'all with a famous line from the MACKA 3:16 book of rhymes

"Whatever the sport I'm forever ahead of the game"

I'm out like...

Peace

"Is you sick from the dick or is it the flu?" - EDI Ahmin

Oh, hell no! You know how tight the NFL is, young MACKA! I ain't tryin to hear tis rugby/soccer/etc. nonsense! Martin Johnson don't want it with Warren Sapp! Ask Martin, he don't want it with Sapp! NOOOOOOOOO!!!

Oh, by the way, that EDI Ahmin quote could have been one of them other Outlawz with 2Pac, I don't know. But it does remind me when Best said the only career that Pac murdered was the Outlaws because they haven't put out anything remotely close to mediocre since his death. LMAO! That had me rollin. And it was even funnier because I didn't think they put out anything remotely close to mediocre BEFORE he died!

Qool, before this dies, I will still murk you and your three mixes.

I'm out like the Outlaws murdered career(s). Peace!

"Seen a movie made in LA, now everybody menaces..." - Grand Puba

Matrix Reloaded reviews? Anyone?

I'm out like Neo. Peace!

For the LAST damn time...."It's him!"..."Who, who is it?"....The Best niggaz. Well, we've been keepin' this shit going for almost two years, and I feel this would be a legit stopping point. I think I've made my mark on this joint. When you niggaz(well NIGGA/CAUCASIAN/LATINO/WHATEVER YOU ARE, specifically speakin' of one individual) tell your friends about this thread BEST believe the gawd will be mentioned in high regards...lol...just playin'...wait, no I'm not...Anyway, there's no need for me to speak on Nas vs. Jay or BP vs. Stillmatic because you niggaz already know how I feel...even though Jay has been blazin' every track he's been on lately, and Nas has returned back to himself and disappeared from the spot light AGAIN. I know I've said that I wasn't going to post anymore previously, but this time is official...A nigga FINALLY got his BS in Electrical Engineering with an emphasis in Computer Science, and I'm about to start my long awaited career at Proctor and Gambel Technology in Dallas...Damn I'm still going be DOWN HEAH, and now it's even worse because Texas is the home of DJ Screw, and the horrid UGK...I have to listen to pricks talk about how "rappers" like Pimp C and Tela are the GOAT's...lmao...Well that should do it for me...Oh wait one last thing, You niggaz heard that new wack south joint entitled "Like A Pimp" by David Banner and Lil' Flip...well that David Banner fag went to Southern U. and he was mad queer in every aspect of life(he use to wear slacks and flannels buttoned to the brim, and fall in love with skeeos, not to mention his rhymes were terrible..lol)...with that said, I guess there givin' record deals to anybody these days. Well I'm out, I guess I'll see you niggaz around....I'M LIEING! I'm leaving you dudes with some words of wisdom...2 Wack still SUCKS!!

"Life's a BITCH, but God forbid the BITCH divorce me"-Nas

Congratulations Best. Dallas is BORING tho!! (Except for Dallas Dead Girl, she posts on "I Love Everything" and despite her name is decidedly neither dead nor boring)

UGK are "horrid"??? Go listen to "Corruptor's Execution" and tell me again with a straight face! That song is all over Outkast!! except for E-40's "teeter totter" part, ulp

It has been something else checking in on you guys from time to time... it's like a back room of your house where there's a poker game always in progress whever you open the door, 3am, 6am, August, October, calendar pages flipping, cards still shuffling, chips still falling. Haha can't believe after all this it's a "tie".