Cage against the Machine, it's not going to happen is it?

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For all that the X-Factor final has left people more empty and unfulfilled than even last year, are the people all gong out and downloading the ambient sound of a concerthall as a protest?

I mean, protests are *in* right now...

are those two in the photo young revolutionaries amber + alice getting their riot on

I'd like to imagine that seconds later the TV was kicked in 'Why Don't You...?' style.

And in answer to the thread title question, no. As evidenced by the fact that an ILX thread devolved into joeks even faster than normal.

xpost*2 yes, there was a John Cage installation at the Baltic, Newcastle. So, they know all about it.

and has this thread developed into joeks faster than usual? Seems about the same...

urgh horrible thought: Wand presenting a reboot of 'Why Don't You...?'. But at least then they'd be wearing name tags so that I could tell apart the two who aren't Harry, Liam, or Zain..

while i'm supportive, it's a bummer that this has ruined the pseudo-intellectualism of quipping "ah, 4'33" is it?" whenever there's silence in a dj set or such. (cf. Obvious jokes/puns that people always make as though they were the first persons to think of them )

although maybe this means it'd actually be funny to some people again, rather than the people who hear it either a) not getting it or b) having heard it a thousand times.

^ this is one of the most reliable dad jokes imo, its obviousness is part of what gets the affectionate lol

Not gonna happen - too many other "protest" records out there, the Trashmen etc, will split the vote.

Be nice for someone to get Christmas number one for a normal bog-standard single at some point, this sort of X-Factor protest is still buying into the hype.

What, like the BEP's or Willow just happening to outsell?

nineties indie astroturfers fuck off imo

http://www.mixmag.net/2010/12/13/cage-against-the-machine-hits-itunes-today/

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There’s no Christmas without that Christmas Number One, and with the likes of Aeroplane, Crystal Fighters and Riz MC joining forces with producers and living legends Paul Epworth (Friendly Fires/Florence & The Machine) and Charlie Rapino (Take That, Kylie Minogue) we might have a challenger on our hands…

Artists turned up in numbers for the re-recording of Paul Cage’s classic ’4’ 33′ fittingly titled ‘Cage Against The Machine’. Documented by none other than Dick Carruthers (of Led Zeppelin and Oasis fame) the star roster shared 4.33 minutes of complete silence in the studio (save breathing and the occasional BlackBerry buzzing in the background) and included names such as

AEROPLANE / CRYSTAL FIGHTERS / DUB PISTOLS / FENECH SOLER / KOOKS / LOOSE CANNONS / RIZ MC / ORBITAL / OU EST LE SWIMMING POOL and many more

good bit from The Quietus http://thequietus.com/articles/05438-silence-why-john-cage-s-4-33-is-no-laughing-matter

currently #39 on itunes. The Trashmen looks a shoo-in for the Top 5.

Fake Blood's 'needle drop' remix is good: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Against-Machine-Version-Blood%60s-Needle/dp/B004G13Q0K

so far that stubbs piece is not going well

it's saying, it's very serious, because john cage said so

it's so serious! so serious

4'33 is shit

Surfin' Bird probably the way to go

to collapse the walls between art and life, in this case to extend the notion of what is admissible as music and what is not to . . . everything. This was an idea that would have confounded the great musical masters of the 19th century and previously, whose overarching assumptions would come crashing down in the early part of the 20th.

whop-de-fuckin-do, how completely fascinating this idea is

god forbid, though, that the great musical masters of the 20th century be contradicted

It sits at precisely the opposite extreme on the cultural spectrum from Cage's work.

to collapse the walls between high and low culture, in this case to extend the notion of what is admissible as music and what is not to . . . everything. This was an idea that would have confounded the great musical masters of the 20th century and previously, whose overarching assumptions would come crashing down in the early part of the 21st.

cage does rhyme with rage tho you have to admit

they should've got [losing x factor contestant] paije to do a song and called it paije against the machine

or the uk independence party leader could've done farage against the machine

mm i agree with some of the naysaying comments in that Quietus piece, but it's a good piece all the same.

Julian Assange The Machine.

In an age in which pop has become the equivalent of the closing chant of "Hey Jude" fading out forever, in which X Factor has successfully altered the very gravity and oxygen levels of the genre to ruinous effect, any sort of opposition to its joyless, stifling, onward march is welcome.

Really?

No, they find it very hard to acknowledge that a song lasts for more than 2 mins.

Unless it's "get at Cheryl" time...

Really?

Sometimes, definitely

In an age in which pop has become the equivalent of the closing chant of "Hey Jude" fading out forever

something that wasn't the fucking Beatles fading out forever wd be rad way for pop to be

god forbid, though, that the great musical masters of the 20th century be contradicted

>>> It sits at precisely the opposite extreme on the cultural spectrum from Cage's work.

to collapse the walls between high and low culture, in this case to extend the notion of what is admissible as music and what is not to . . . everything. This was an idea that would have confounded the great musical masters of the 20th century and previously, whose overarching assumptions would come crashing down in the early part of the 21st.

How did Cage ever exclude pop from "what is admissible as music"?

He used to shoot his telly if Elvis came on

he didn't, i was lightly zinging stubbsy's 'say no to x-factor fakes, vote for some people from radio 6' neo-rockism

A few minutes ago I was - for no particular reason - making anagrams of the word PARTICIPATION*, and the very first thing i came up with was RIP TACIT PIANO and I of course thought of this thread.

* Sme sort of case can probably be made for the relevance participation as related to John Cage's associations with Fluxus and all that.

wth is "Kunt & The Gang - Use My Arsehole As A Cunt"

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omfg yes!!!

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So, I dunno, it sort of happened, didn't it?

I mean, asking people to download nothing as opposed to last year's "message" was a big ask, so number 22 is, um, ok...

Still happy re the Surfing Bird chart hit though.

Curdle still got to number 1. Last year's anti-Cowell effort was focused more or less on RATM, this year it was spread across about a dozen songs.