US #1s of 2010

I'm torn between Rihanna songs.

"OMG" over "California Gurls"

with the exception of Ke$ha, the most depressing list of my lifetime.

Ke$ha is the worst artist on this list by far. Worse than Far East Movement.

with the exception of ke$ha?

"Tik Tok and "We R Who We R" are the only ones I'm okay about.

I'm torn between Rihanna songs.
― The Reverend, Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:16 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ke$ha is the worst artist of 2010

the only songs here i totally fux with are

1. rude boy
2. like a g6

then we have to go quite tenuous to say anything positive

- i adore the k. michelle cover/remix of "nothin' on you", i think i've been pimping this all year but it really is special
- i think i would like "california gurls" if someone else was singing it
- spending time in miami made me cave into "only girl (in the world)" a bit, or at least get it stuck in my head all the time
- the cooly g remix of "tik tok" is ok
- i didn't hate "imma be" the first few times i heard it
- i loved it when cher lloyd did "nothin' on you" and "love the way you lie" on the x factor

surely it gets better next year?

nah

ke$ha katy perry is the worst artist of 2010 the decade

ke$ha is the worst artist of 2010

― The Reverend, Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes. i actually half-expected her to redeem herself à la gaga but she's as intolerable as ever

kinda regret not voting for "rude boy" now

top ten ranked:

Ke$ha, "Tik Tok"
Rihanna, "Rude Boy"
Katy Perry, "Teenage Dream"
Ke$ha, "We R Who We R"
Rihanna, "Only Girl in the World"
Usher, "OMG"
Eminem, "Not Afraid"
Katy Perry, "California Gurls"
Pink, "Raise Your Glass"
Eminem, "Love the Way You Lie"

worst:

Far East Movement, "Like a G6"

How many of these will get any votes?

There are 6 of these like a lot (the 3 Rihanna songs, "California Gurls", "Teenage Dream", "Like a G6"), 3 I'm more or less ambivalent about (BEP, Taio, "Just the Way You Are"), 5 I dislike but usually wouldn't turn off if they came on the radio (B.o.B, "OMG", "Love the Way You Lie", Pink, "Firework") and 3 that are the worst shit ever (both Ke$has, "Not Afraid").

Not the worst rate ever.

top 5
1. Rude Boy
2. Teenage Dream
3. California Gurls
4. Nothin' On You
5. Raise Your Glass

bottom 5
5. OMG
4. Not Afraid
3. Tik Tok
2. Firework
1. Love The Way You Lie

"Nothin' On You" would be my second choice, followed closely by "California Gurls". Pretty sure I could live my life happily without hearing any of the rest ever again.

Either of the Ke$has or "Rude Boy".

Was thinking Taio maybe, but no.

read this line by Maura in the VV today, totally agree (against all odds):

Eminem's "Not Afraid" sounded like he went into the studio to try and remake "All the Young Dudes" as a semi-inspirational anthem -- and succeeded.

i'll take all three of the rihanna solo singles before anything else on the list, and "rude boy" is by far the best of those.

imo "Rude Boy" stands so so so tall above the other Rihannas

really surprised alfred doesn't like "teenage dream", i would imagine it being right up his alley tbh.

maura why

Voting Far*East; "Tik Tok" second place.

I like "Like a G6" insofar as the na-na-na-na-na stuttery part sounds like Stacey Q

Or Latin freestyle. But that makes the song for me.

i wish the dudes' rapping wasn't so BEP-level lame in "like a g6" - if it was just a bit better i think i could really love it quite a lot

the chorus is classic 4eva obv. SLIZZARD

or SLIZZERED, who knows

really surprised alfred doesn't like "teenage dream", i would imagine it being right up his alley tbh.

Her voice is the ugliest, most unerotic thing in pop; and the staccato chorus is like getting kicked repeatedly in the shins.

2nd best mc hammer reference of the year xp

uchkhkkhhhh

pink maybe i guess?

i feel like the genre most of these songs are in should be called "shitsco"

I heard "Only Girl in the World" in a supermarket recently & thought it was the worst thing I'd heard in some time---I couldn't place the artist & was shocked to learn it was Rihanna. What an awful monochromatic mess.

seriously, it bums me out that that song eventually triumphed on the charts

i feel like being opposed to big, brash mersh-dance at this point is kind of pointless? xxp

lol @ me, I actually like/don't mind most of these songs:

Ke$ha, "Tik Tok"
Black Eyed Peas, "I'mma Be"
Taio Cruz, "Break Your Heart"
Rihanna, "Rude Boy"
B.o.B, "Nothin' on You"
Katy Perry, "California Gurls"
Eminem, "Love the Way You Lie"
Katy Perry, "Teenage Dream"
Bruno Mars, "Just the Way You Are"
Far East Movement, "Like a G6"
Ke$ha, "We R Who We R"
Rihanna, "What's My Name"
Rihanna, "Only Girl in the World"
Pink, "Raise Your Glass"

I have no ill will towards any of these and actively enjoy most of them.

Usher, "OMG"
Eminem, "Not Afraid"
Katy Perry, "Firework"

These are the fucking end of the world and should be destroyed immediately.

oh wait i'm just now hearing the LIKE THREE SIX remix of "like a g6" - hurrah this gets rid of lots of the bad rapping

"only girl in the world" took me a minute to get but i pretty much openly love it now

xpost don't even know if I'm opposed to it per se, worse things in the world. Shitsco just feels apt.

i'll take shitsco over butt rock, i mean

three Katy Perry songs? Damn.

I voted for Tik Tok, I actually listen to this on my own for enjoyment which is not applicable to any other song there. The Rihanna tracks are so sad and un-fun.

surmounter made you feel like it's the only song in the world, like it's the only one that you've ever loved

(xpost)

i think i'm voting for "what's my name" on account of the drakeless edit i made for myself.

i do think the three rihanna songs are better than anything else here

Ke$ha is the worst artist on this list by far. Worse than Far East Movement.

― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:20 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

..........

Voting Far*East; "Tik Tok" second place.

― xhuxk, Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:34 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I like "Like a G6" insofar as the na-na-na-na-na stuttery part sounds like Stacey Q

― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:34 PM (8 minutes ago)

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

oh yeah I forgot Drake was on "What's My Name", I guess I do actually have ill will towards that song but I never change the channel when I come across it on the radio (usually because Drake's part is already over, ha)

I guess this is the second year I'll be voting for Tik Tok as #1 of the year. ;-)

1990: house finally breaks us mainstream

2010: the repercussions of jersey shore

1990: house finally breaks us mainstream

lol, had no idea that Maxi Priest song went to #1.

not much house here
― Siegbran, Saturday, January 1, 2011 12:19 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

vogue? plus there were tons of mainstream house hits then that may not have gone #1 but were all over the charts

Deeeeeeee groovy

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vogue? plus there were tons of mainstream house hits then that may not have gone #1 but were all over the charts

The airplay factor in the American charts made it virtually impossible for house songs to go #1. "Pump Up The Volume" apparently was one of the bestselling singles of 1987 in the US, yet was nowhere close to the top of the charts.

twist what geir says and you have a semblance of a point - late 80s thru some point this century adult contemporary airplay is a crucial element for hitting #1, not absolutely necessary but not having it would present a challenge. if you can get ac airplay AND cross over to r&b radio (or more likely vice versa) you can dominate the #1 spot - then you're boyzIImen, you're whitney houston, you're mariah carey to an extent. r. kelly chased this demon from 'i believe i can fly' until the tape broke. that model isn't really present above and ac just isn't the factor it was; the hugest ac songs of 2010 - lady antebellum, train - peaked just shy of #1 (and they were HUGE on ac - the ac still does #1s like the 90s, huge 14 week runs and shit), same thing w/ 2009 (taylor swift, jason mraz). the last ac #1 to also top the hot 100 was 'bleeding love', that last one before that was 'bad day'. i'm not sure the last time someone had a #1 w/ the ac/r&b model but my guess is 'we belong together' (who has the #1 ac song at the moment btw). my guess is w/ boomers (finally) aging themselves out of being a demo anyone would want to program towards radio has shifted toward millenials w/ power hot 100 type stations, which tend to play the above and generally just the above on a loop. there is no way something like 'like a g6' hits #1 in 1987 or 1997, but in 2010 it's not remotely surprising.

^^good post

"pump up the jam" was a #2 hit in the US, and as i just posted, the 13th biggest hit of 1990

oh n/m i read that wrong. "pump up the volumje", not "pump up the jam"

that one hit #13

I don't think you need to reach the adult contemporary audiences, but you need for radio DJs to feel that the song fits on the car stereo or whatever, not just in the clubs. Which obviously was no advantage for house music.

geir what was the last year the 3 biggest ac hits didn't hit #1 and what was the last year before that the 3 biggest hot 100 hits didn't cross over to ac? also lol at 'radio djs' having any role in what gets played on the radio since at least 10 years before house music existed. get a clue son.

note: when referring to radio i'm reffering to american radio. not really looking to go into yr whole 'the billboard hot 100 is primarily influenced by latvian radio' theory again.

also soundscan changed everything right after 1990. no more "shipped = sales" BS that the industry perpetuated.

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sub in playlist directors for djs and geir's post still works

true, that's more of an impact on the album charts (where the industry was shocked to learn that actually country and rap and metal are crazy popular), but stuff like 'wild thing', 'push it', 'pump up the volume', 'pump up the jam', etc would've only benefited from more accurate accounting. tbh i know alot of ppl hate the us singles charts weighing airplay but i actually prefer that model to the uk model, definitely more accurate measure of 'what is the biggest song in america this week', more honest account of how ppl actually encounter/engage w/ music. obv it could be tweaked and other factors maybe weighed but it seems less prone to distortion than the uk chart.

house music has always sounded fine on my car (factory) stereo, no idea what you ppl are driving. loudness wars comes into it somewhat i guess - nonjersey shore house uses a different sonic palette than the above and even if it started putting out 'lost my job/getting drunk tonight/yay' songy songs w/ whatever the deephouse equiv of uffie would be there's still no way wolf + lamb steez hits top 40. it's funny but back when the ed banger bloghouse shit first hit i found it really fun and refreshing, was the first dj in athens to play 'd.a.n.c.e.' (when it was a demo, who wants to touch me etc) and was very happy when it blew up, and didn't hesitate to defend this stuff to my minimal loving friends that hated this shit even more than they hated dfa shit, and now it's a few years later and that shit is ALL you hear in the club (in athens at least), on the radio, at parties to an extent, and i feel like i'm some guy that pushed hitler out of the way of an oncoming car in 1929 or something.

geir what was the last year the 3 biggest ac hits didn't hit #1 and what was the last year before that the 3 biggest hot 100 hits didn't cross over to ac?

In the US, it seems to me that at least the past 10 years have been largely about hits crossing over from the R&B charts. The 80s were different though, by then it was AOR that dominated the US market. Which is related to adult contemporary, but not quite, as AOR "rocked" more than adult contemporary would do.

But sure, there are usually 2-3 big ballads doing well, and if the beat is not too obvious, those big ballads will easily appeal to 50 year-old housewives as well.

so the beat has to be hidden?

you didn't actually answer the question geir. you can read right?

for that matter what was the last year the 3 biggest hot 100 hits crossed over to aor or active rock radio? i can't picture a case where this happens post-mtv.

"teenage dream" was robbed!!!!

what was the last year the 3 biggest ac hits didn't hit #1 and what was the last year before that the 3 biggest hot 100 hits didn't cross over to ac?

last year and last year, respectively. I don't think you and Geir are really saying anything incompatible? I'm not sure what your argument is.

last year when any of the 3 biggest AC hits hit #1 was 2006 when James Blunt & Daniel Powter did.

last aor or active rock track to hit #1: nickelback - 'how you remind me' 2002

last year 3 (or more) aor or active rock tracks hit #1: 1988 - 'love bites', 'bad medicine', 'sweet child o mine', 'every rose has its thorn' (only 'sweet child o mine' makes the years 5 biggest hot 100 hits and it's fifth).

1982 (the year after mtv goes on-air) is the last year w/ 3 aor or active rock tracks in the top five hits of the year - survivor, joan jett, j. geils band - but two john cougar hits are at 6 and 7 so it seems very fair to say that getting major aor play in 1982 meant a real likelihood of hitting #1 in the same way that winning the sec = a real likelihood at the bcs championship. at the same time 1982 is the most recent year where you can say this, post 1982 it is simply not true.

bah i meant the last year the 3 biggest ac hits hit #1 and then the last year before that the 3 biggest ac hits didn't hit #1. one thing i'm noticing looking at these charts right now: hall and oates (talk about crossover) have still been having hits and i have somehow not been hearing them. also every christmas (or more accurately the week after christmas) some holiday song is number one, like it's the 40s or something.

also the amount of country to ac crossover is much higher than i realized (and i live in the south) and something i haven't really seen remarked upon. it's a mama grizzly format pretty much.

so the beat has to be hidden?

Before contemporary RnB, ballads didn't have a beat.

Try again.

OK, let's have a look at Lionel Richie's development here:

Archetypical slow pre-contemporary-RnB-ballad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ILDFp5DGA

Typical contemporary slow RnB ballad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s47n8E2BuWc

The first one you couldn't dance anything but slow dancing to. The latter you can dance the exact same of dance to that you can to midtempto songs.

And the point is, the latter is still supposed to be among his slow, silent songs. He just doesn't make the kind of "drumless" songs like "Hello" anymore because R&B acts aren't supposed to do so anymore.

Just heard "Like a G6" yesterday. Applebee's should totally rewrite it as "like a cheese stick" for an ad campaign.

Jeez ppl this discussion isn't getting better. Point I was trying to make: I've been coming to the US regularly since the early 90s, I go out w/ colleagues, relatives and friends, drive around listening to radio & talk to ppl about music - and as a regular Eurodude it always surprised me that the house tunes that were ubiquitous all over the world were so ghettoized in specially labeled Euro/house/trance nights and specialist radio channels. Among US friends/colleagues the whole lifestyle of going clubbing and dancing yr face off on the floor to 130+ bpm tunes til 4 was def not a shared experience like it was among Europeans/etc growing up in the 90s/00s. This year was the first time I really noticed the Euro house sound of Guetta et al being *everywhere*, in background music in stores, etc and w/ the attitude that it's cool to go clubbing, instead of "look it's Madonna doing a silly dance with some NYC gay dudes, and hey, some more people doing silly dances with Bootsy in 70s costumes".

Now back to yr scheduled programming: argueing with Geir.

i kind of agree w/ the point that in the early 90s there was a big pop-dance crossover moment, tho

yeah, it went quickly though, enough so that by 97 i could be ecstatic that something as house as 'together again' could go #1. and of course unclaimed dance music like la bouche, dj sammy, whatever has kept a presence on the radio and in certain clubs. tbh i'm not really sure what the difference is sonically between that and jerseyshore shit like guetta. not sure who you were hanging w/ in america but ppl definitely did go out to the club and dance until 4, the breakadawn, or, in atlanta, 8 in the morning. the difference is they didn't dance to house (whatever def you want to use) really. they danced to hip-hop.

don't even want to get into how the fuck ke$ha is cooler than madonna, nyc gay dudes, dee-lite, or bootsy collins.

you couldn't even have dancing til 4 here (WA) if you wanted to, the bars/clubs have to close at 2 :(

yeah athens is like that now, it used to be last call was 2 but the clubs did late night disco and closed whenever they felt like but a few fights shut that down about ten years back so now its the burgeoning afterparty scene which is better really though i still bitch about them outlawing late night disco.

ppl definitely did go out to the club and dance until 4, the breakadawn, or, in atlanta, 8 in the morning. the difference is they didn't dance to house (whatever def you want to use) really. they danced to hip-hop.

Americans more puritanical than pagan-rooted europeans shockah

americans more puritanical than catholic europe

siegbran what is yr point then cuz you were saying that clubbing wasn't a thing stateside but it was, ppl in atlanta or houston or miami or la just weren't listening to the same thing ppl in helsinki or amsterdam or berlin or whatever were. different continent, wildly different demographics = different aesthetics. shocker. "nobody listens to techno". and the same is true today - how many euro acts on that list above? still not sure how ke$ha is cooler than madonna and dee-lite or how doing the stanky leg is puritanical. feel free to clarify. 2010 = the year house broke still makes less sense than 2002 = the year grunge broke.

not completely sure dee-lite counts as house tbh

also "how many euro acts on that list above?" -- isn't that the point? not saying that house music has never crossed over, but there is something pretty striking about the uniformity of sound across these records, and also they feel more kinda trancey/ravey, which is something something different from 'vogue'

"Vogue" is a pop song with verse and chorus and all. Yes, it is house influenced, but surely not house.

House = has verses and choruses, all that. Middle 8 is optional.

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