Ages in songs - a piece of complete frippery

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3: "Climb upon my knee, sonny boy / although you're only three, sonny boy / You're mine, mine / And your mother she just never knew " ('The Hand That Rocks The Cradle' - The Smiths)

9: "Some nine year old tough who peddles drugs / I swear to God I never even knew what drugs were" ('The Queen Is Dead' - The Smiths)

16: "Sixteen clumsy and shy / I went to London and I / I booked myself in at the Y..WCA" ('Half A Person' - The Smiths. Look, I'm sorry about this)

'Sixteen' and 'Sixteen Again' - Buzzcocks

'You're Sixteen' - Ringo Starr

'Only Sixteen' - Sam Cooke

etc. etc. Bloody jailbait chasers.

17:

"Well he was just seventeen / You know what I mean" ('I Saw Him Standing There' - Tiffany) "Look at me proud of being, proud of being seventeen" ('The Beatles & The Stones' - The House of Love)

18:

"So young / Just eighteen" - ('Shine On' - The House Of Love)

21:

"Now, oh there's such a lot you've done / And you're only 21, yes you're only 21" - ('Go Out And Get 'Em Boy!' - The Wedding Present)

" I was 21 years when I wrote this song / I'm 22 now but I won't be for long" ('Leaves That Are Green' - Simon & Garfunkel)

22 :

"You've been around since we were 22 / but now you've got the rush, when you're cold and when you're touched / I know things don't mean much." -('No Danger' - The Delgados)

"And I just turned 22 / I was wonderin' what to do" ('Powderfinger' - Neil Young)

"I was 21 years when I wrote this song / I'm 22 now but I won't be for long" ('Leaves That Are Green' - Simon & Garfunkel)

25

"Give me your lies just leave out the reason / I'm only 25 but I'm tired and I'm freezing." - ('Everything Goes Around The Water' - The Delgados)

"A grown man of 25 / He said he'd cure your ills / But he didn't and he never will" - ('This Night Has Opened My Eyes' - The Smiths)

64

Ok, bored now. Does anyone fancy filling in the gaps? Using The Beach Boys' 'When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)' counts as cheating.

Nick, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Save your kisses for me... even though you're only three

Madchen, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One of the strangest-looking questions ever. How do you get that bold type stuff anyway?

The way you repeated 'Leaves That Are Green' was marvellous in its pedantry.

1. 'I'm gonna be / Nineteen forever' - Joe Jackson, 'Nineteen Forever'.

2. 'She looks a little like Jodie Foster: 12 years old with eyes of 35' (Lloyd Cole, 'Wild Orphan').

3. 'Life begins at thirty' - Lloyd Cole, '29'.

4. 'Now That You Are 18' - theaudience, 'Now That You Are 18'.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

David Bowie - "When I'm Five". From his ultra-hokey "Laughing Gnome" period.

Nicole, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

37:

"At the age of 37, she knew that she would never ride thru Paris in a sportscar with the warm wind in her hair": Marianne Faithfull, Ballad Of Lucy Jordan. When I was 20, I found this line unutterably sad — now it seems silly.

mark s, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"At 13 years old / who dyed his hair gold?" - 'I Know Very Well How I Got My Name' - Morrissey

stevie t, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"At the age of 37, she knew that she would never ride thru Paris in a sportscar with the warm wind in her hair": Marianne Faithfull, Ballad Of Lucy Jordan. When I was 20, I found this line unutterably sad — now it seems silly.

I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing now, mark.

Nick, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nick, I love you for quoting Tiffany's "I Saw Him Standing There" rather than that other lot's go at the same song.

Um, there's that Sex Pistols line "You're only twenty-nine you've got a lot to learn"... is the song "Seventeen"?

And "Seventeen" by the Regents ("Seventeen / And not yet a woman").

"I eat hot dogs / I live on pies / I'm forty-five"... Fiery Jack by the Fall.

"Eighties" by Killing Joke, like "Old" by Dexy's, is a touching account of senior citizenship.

Tim, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

last year i was 21 / didn't have a lot of fun / this year i'll be 22 / well my my an-ah bohh hoo. stooges 1969

cw, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

27 see Screeching Weasel catalog. Ben is obsessed with this number.

, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

14

"You act like you're 14 years-old/everything you say is so funny true and mean/I want to be your blow job queen" (Liz Phair, "Flower")

"I've been around the same old scene/my girlfriend Betty, she's just 14" (Iggy Pop, "Dog Food")

Patrick, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't even remember how the line goes, but in Dishes Jarvis Cocker talks about being 33.

Ally, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Now I'm showing my pedigree - "18 and life you got it, 18 and life you know" - 18 & Life, Skid Row.

Geoff, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

23 & 28
Jesse honey, is it hard to take
Does it feel so bad to be 28
You were 23 and you could do anything
Grace - Lloyd Cole and the Commotions 32 & 55
I know you're 32
But you look 55.
Right Here - The Go-Betweens

youn, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"When I was 17, it was a very good year."

"When I was 21, it was a very good year."

"When I was 35, it was a very good year."

Is there another?

Also, from "The Ocean" by Zep:

Now I'm singing all my songs to the girl who won my heart She is only 3 years old and it's a real fine way to start

Mark, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just *knew* that Lloyd would help us out here.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I only have a number sixteen and a number 100...in Bon Jovi's "Someday I'll be Saturday Night"...the line goes "i'm only 16 but feel 100 years old."...

Oh and a 23...in "23 Strikes Your Out" by All About Chad...it's about getting kicked out by your parents.

Train of thought...there is a 99 in a Kinks song...I think maybe Autumn Almanac..."this is my street and I'm never gonna leave it if I live to be 99" or something like that!

james e l, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

19th Nervous Breakdown I always though nervous breakdown meant "birthday". That doesn't mean it really does. I just think 18 nervous breakdowns would be a bit much for a young girl to have.

, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

13's been done, but the Lurkers' "Just 13/I'm hurtin'" goes many perilous months better than all the "16" lightweights Nick listed.

mark s, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

13: 'I Want The One I Can't Have' The Smiths 16: 'Age Of Consent' New Order (ahhhh! You see? YOU SEE?!), 'Sixteen' Iggy Pop 17: 'Jubilee' Blur 18: 'Eighteen Till I Die' Bryan Adams

DG, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-nineteen, n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-nineteen." - Paul Hardcastle, "19".

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"I'm Eighteen" Alice Cooper! D'oh!...oh and that Blink 182 song..."no one loves you when you're 24" or was it 23...or 25?

james e l, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"You know it really won't surprise me if you're a wreck by the age of 14" - Eighties Fan, Camera Obscura.

"I was waiting to be 16 when it hit me" - On The City, The Pinefox.

"I remember you at 16, through to 23" - The Wedding Song, Tompaulin.

"We gave up sleep at the age of 17" - My Bag, Lloyd Cole and The Commotions.

"Not to mention her bold intention to keep the bairn, and she's only 17" - Hurley's Having Dreams, Belle and Sebastian.

"I was 21 when I left Galveston" - Galveston, Jimmy Webb.

"24 and there's so much more" - Old Man, Neil Young.

"We buried her at 32" - My Sister, Tindersticks.

"How terribly strange to be 70" - Old Friends, Simon and Garfunkel.

Ally C, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"SHE was 21...". God I love being pedantic.

Ally C, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

17 She's only 17.... Van Halen

Ed, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Son, I'm 30/I only went with your mother cos she's dirty" - Kinky Afro, Happy Mondays. "Sarah was Ninety Years Old" - Arvo Part. "It's Horrible Being In Love When You're 8 1/2" - St Winifred's School Choir's Fellini tribute single.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Abba! Dancing queen, young and sweet, only seventeen, *badum - badum badum badum*

Stray Cats - Sexy+17

DM - Little 15 and Question of Time "now you're only fifteen, and you look good"

Grim Kim, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Who did "18 With A Bullet"?

Mark, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mark : It's Pete Wingfield - I think that song is pretty much all he's known for.

Patrick, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

travis! why does it always rain on me? is it because i lied when i was seventeen?

gabe, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This was all prompted by my turning 28 on Tuesday and not being able to think of any song that gave two hoots about 28 year olds. Now I've remembered that I don't have to stick with Lloyd Cole:

"Surprised at 28 to find myself so late / Changing from a boy into a man / I'm starting to feel guilty that nobody has killed me / Early as my stepfather had planned" ('Bishonen' - Momus)

Thank you Tim for reminding me of that Fall lyric. I love the fact that by the time you're 45, that's all that pop has to offer you. I eat hot dogs / I live on pies / I'm forty-five.

Nick, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nick: why on earth wouldn't you want to stick with Lloyd Cole? But happy birthday anyway. You looked all of 19 the last time I saw you.

Cookie: we forgot about the 12-year-old.

the pinefox, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"I am sixteen going on seventeen..." Greta : Sound of Music "I am seventeen going on eighteen" Kurt : Sound Of Music

Of course she said she needed someone older and wiser to take care of her. He was older, but as his uniformed Nazi stint showed - not necessarily wiser.

"I learnt the truth at seventeen, that love was meant for beauty queens, And high school girls with clear skinned smiles, who married young and then retired" At Seventeen, Janis Ian.

Pete, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, no, no! It was Liesl and Kurt.

I think I'd better run along and make some play clothes out of the curtains...

Madchen, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did I say Liesl and Kurt? I meant Liesl and Rolf, of course. Oh god...

Madchen, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"You were 16 and I was 12, All that Summer we were so in love" - Sister Sledge, Frankie.

"Speed jive, don't wanna stay alive when you're 25" - Mott The Hoople, All The Young Dudes (surely we've had this one but I couldnt see it)

IS ANYONE COMPILING THESE? I want this for an article. I smell hits, heh heh.

Tom, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm kind of compiling them in my head. When everyone's run out of ideas, I was going to order them all and see what's missing. I could even write an article to go with it if you like (maybe!).

Nick, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"When I'm 64" the Beatles!!!

james e l, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Err, yes James. I kind of put that in my original post, but couldn't bring myself to mention the word 'Beatles' without reference to the House of Love.

Nick, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'she's only seventeen'--winger(i can't remember any of the rest)

keith, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Thirteen" by Big Star and "Nineteen" by Smog. "Janie said when she was just a little girl 'bout five years old, you know there's nothing going on at all" -- "Rock N Roll" by The Velvet Underground.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What does it take to turn you on now he has gone? Now you're over 21? Animal Nitrate - Suede

Audrey, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ooh, ooh, 'He had a stroke at the age of 24' It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career - Belle & Sebastian

Audrey, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wildside "Hang On Lucy" - "Sellin' her soul to the world since she was just 16."

Vixen "Hard 16" - "Soft to the touch but she's seen too much / She's hard 16 / Will her soul run dry by 17?"

Smashed Gladys "17 Goin' On Crazy" - "You're 17 and you're going insane / Meat on the table / Just another horse in the stable."

Kill for Thrills "Paisley Killers" - "I was seven years old, I didn't care at all / My teachers were loaded."

Ted Nugent "Jailbait" - "I don't care if you're just 13 / I just know that you're probably clean."

AP, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"When Yer 22" by Flaming Lips...

kate the saint, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am only five years old/and my babys three

Jan and Dean 'Baby Talk'

Steven James, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Point of order: "Horrible being in love when yr 8 and half" was by Claire and friends, not St Winifreds. also "22 now but i won't be for long" - New England by Billy Bragg

And "I'm 23 will i ever live to see 24, the way things are going i don't know" - Gangsters Paradise Coolio. Happy birfday Nick :)

carsmilesteve and starry, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Shadow/you're only 14 years old..." - R.Dean Taylor, super creepy early-70s creepiness.

duane zarakov, Monday, 7 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

12, by girlfrendo and the mag fields one that i can't remember the words, but its something about 'bored and lonely at 17'. must listen to the tape again

alix, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"I'm 93 and you're 16" - Kiss, 'Goin' Blind'.

tarden, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

40

Life begins I'm forty now

Tom T Hall

anthony, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"I was 37, you were 17/You were half my age, the youth I'd never seen" - 'Come Live With Me', Heaven 17. Not strictly correct, that second line, is it? Perhaps he's speaking from a point three years on.

"And 24 keeps pounding at my door..." - '24', Red House Painters (from an album released when 24 was pounding on *my* door; also featured a track called 'Michael'. It's like, he was articulatin' my pain, man.)

What are we missing, Nick?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We're missing:

1,2,4,6,8 (do we allow 8 and a half?),10,11,20,26,27,31, 34,36,38,39,41-44,46-63,65-69,71-89,91,92,94-98,101-

Nick, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I could, potentially, kill myself for knowing this, but Lonnie Donegan's "My Old Man's A Dustman" mentions the age of 86. I think.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A- ha, yes.

"Though my old man's a dustman he's got an 'eart of gold. He got married recently, though he's 86 years old."

Come on - there must be songs with those missing 20s and 30s ages. If you don't come up with them soon I'll have to commission them from the pinefox...

Nick, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

6 : "Marie is only 6 years-old", Chuck Berry "Memphis"

20 : "J'ai 20 ans, qu'est-ce que j'fais, qu'est-ce que j'fais", Plastic Bertrand "Stop ou encore"

50 : "She was nifty, shifty, she looked about 50", Rolling Stones, live "The Spider and The Fly" from Stripped

Patrick, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There might be a track on "Wu-Tang Forever" that mentions the age of 36. But I'm not sure.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bit of an obscurity this one, but there's a fantastic record called Mike The Bike by The Claim (featuring Vic Templar) which contains the words "I ain't got a woman, I mean, look at me, I'm 57, I like rum and ricard and garlic and me pipe. What would they want with me, eh?"

So that's 57. And here's 10: I've looked at the thread and I can't see the following, but can't believe no-one's noted it already. "At the age of ten / She looked like Greta Garbo / And I loved her then / But how was she to know that?" (Lloyd Cole & the Commotions, 'Perfect Skin'). Pinefox, where have you been?

Tim, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
"He'll always be 23" - Local Boy In The Photograph by Stereophonics and "25 - don't recall a time I felt his alive" from Wake Up Boo! by the Boo Radleys. Hope it helps. xxx

Jenni M, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

have we had "22 Going On 23" by the Butthole Surfers yet? a very scary song.

er, "99" by Toto.

"at the tender age of 3, i was plugged to a machine/just to keep my mouth from spouting junk" (Hyperactive by Thomas Dolby)

rener, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anybody done "All broken up at 17" by Manic Street Preachers from Stay Beautiful yet?

Jenni M, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've, um, been to London to see Queen.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

More Boo Radleys:

"Baby's gone, but there'll be more/I'm only 23" - Leaves and Sand "28 but I feel much younger" - Jimmy Webb is God

Missus Mo, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oooh and another one:

"I remember when I was 5 and you where 10 boy / You knew that I was shy / You teased and made me cry / But I loved you" - I'm Still Waiting, Diana Ross

Missus Mo, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four months pass...
"I'll be free when I'm 53, and I bet I'll be a lot tougher." - ('Ben in the Pen' - "Stompin'" Tom Conners)

Stage Coach, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"I think it's time I saw the world, I'm 34 years old." - I Go to Spain - covered by the Fall - (don't know the original.)

"I'm not the cat I used to be, I got a kid, I'm 33 baby" - Middle of the Road - Pretenders

Dave225, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

seven months pass...
I remember when i was 5 and you were 10 you knew i was shy so you teased and made me cry. Diana ross. song 'i'm still waiting'

sid crowe, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Eminem's "Without Me" fits the "36" criteria.

Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"I'm 22 and I don't love you anymore" - softies

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"When I was five I took a dive. When I was ten I walked again. When I was fifteen I kept my motor clean. When I was twenty I got plenty. When I was twenty-five [ominous guitar aquealing!!!!!]"

"25" by Veruca Salt

aaron, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

17:
"I'm seventeen and I'm tall for my age, I think with my heart and my mind's in a cage" - 17 - Simon Turner 74:
"We talked about growing old gracefully and Elsie who's seventy- four said 'A: it's a question of being sincere and B: if you're supple, you've got nothing to fear' then she swung upside down from a chandelier and I couldn't have liked it more" - I've Been To A Marvellous Party, Noel Coward

jamesmichaelward, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Saw him standing there by the record machine. Knew he must have been about 17.

Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, "I Love Rock and Roll"

Sean, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"You've been telling me a genius ever since you were seventeen/ And in all that time, I still don't know what you mean" "Reeling In The Years" Steely Dan.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus Momus Momus! Apart from the "Bishonen" bit mentioned already:

"Then at 18 I decided I wanted to be a commercial photographer / I rented a studio down by the docks, which I shared with a friendly pornographer" ("The Charm of Innocence")

"The pupil is 12, attractive, withdrawn, in a midnight blue school uniform" ("The Guitar Lesson")

...and the cleverest of them all, from "Three Wars":
"The first war, the war of 14 to 18, begins with an uprise of adrenaline..."
and
"The second war, the war of 39 to 45, begins when you identify your own inner Third Reich..."

So there's your 39, Nick, and if you're struggling, maybe it could serve for 41-44 as well?

OleM, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"As for mine, I'll be 60 in my prime, still sciencing theories and dropping rhymes on time" "The Platform", Dilated Peoples

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

six months pass...
who farted

jason wallmart, Friday, 24 January 2003 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

"You know my heart keeps telling me, your not a kid at 33" "Goodtime Charlies Got the Blues." "Well hes 39 and holdin, holdin everything he can..." "39 and Holding" "Well I'm eighteen and I know what I want" "Eighteen"

Ken, Sunday, 26 January 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

When She Turns 50 I'll bake her bread -- GBVs

Sixteen Candles -- The Crests

When I was five I took a dive.
When I was ten I walked again.
When I was fifteen I kept my motor clean.
When I was twenty I got plenty.
When I was twenty-five......... Veruca Salt

christoff (christoff), Monday, 27 January 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

30
  • Yes, I'm cooking for my son and his wife / It's his 30th birthday - Cibo Matto, Shut Up And Eat

10, 14, 16, 18

  • Protect me from ravagement / I'm ten years old / I don't know what to do / Protect me myself / I'm fourteen / There's nothing to do / Protect me yourself / I'm sixteen / Protect me from starving / I'm eighteen - Sonic Youth, Protext Me You

Also I can hear Frank Black saying "I was just ___" in my head or something similar, can anyone think of a Pixies song?

Lex, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

9 & 10

"You were only nine years old, And I was barely 10"
- "The Summerhouse", The Divine Comedy.

23 & 24

I'm 23 now but will I live to see 24? The way things are going, I don't know"
- "Gangsta's Paradise", Coolio

Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)


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