Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me and subsequent album (2011)

http://soundcloud.com/tpbsecretleaks/01-hold-it-against-me

she's such a robot, she will never stop sounding exactly like this. i guess it still works.

struck by the mix of super-bubblegum melody (the lift on "if we could escape the crowd somehow…") and vworp vworp bass production that i'm sure will sound immense in HQ.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpO9Oa-sSpI

oh my god

the chorus to this song is the old cheesy pick-up line?!??!

OF COURSE IT IS

i think this is pretty lame - the only good thing about it is the confused, stuttering breakdown and plaintive trance-style re-entrance to the song but neither really goes far enough

DUBSTEP BREAKDOWN

i want to hear britney deal with a breakdown like the one starting at about 1:30 here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcxVyiHFDe4

Can't watch this in Australia for inscrutable copyright reasons :-/

Don't understand why Sony Australia can't talk to Sony rest-of-the-world.

brits kindof stuck in a moment she cant get out of imo

it is kind of amusing to hear the faux dubstep breakdown segueing seamlessly into a standard trance snare rush..

yt not accessible in the us
http://www.mediafire.com/?xm5y1k3nlhcgey8

one of the sites i went to to try and hear this directed me to ryan seacrest's facebook page. to listen you have to 'like' him. i thought really long and hard about it but went elsewhere.

brits kindof stuck in a moment she cant get out of imo

yeah but i'm hearing it, now, as just blithely doing what she always does, almost regardless of what's going on elsewhere. this is very...comfort food pop.

also she went dubstep already, like 4 years ago, so that is really not a notable thing

idk this kindof feels super whooshy at a moment when that is finally starting to drain out of the pop hegemony

i dont deal w/ whooshy well

The beats on this are sterner than I expected. Very Tiesto.

ugh

i mean tiesto is someone i want to like for contrarian reason but

Also the dubstep breakdown is hilarious.

also she went dubstep already, like 4 years ago, so that is really not a notable thing
that's fine but it's still hilarious

Very Tiesto.
yeah that's all i can think. has the original single been such an outright bad trance dance-mix before? i can't recall disagreeing this much with anything she's done other than womanizer but that was still more pop.

im surprised @ u lex bc this is a lot more popjusticey than i thought u had a stomach for

the whooshiness is what saves this i think? it gives it a gliding lightness that's usually absent in our current age of guettapopjusticepop

Agree with "gliding lightness", still... I think the problem with going straight out the gate bad-trance-dance is that the beats aren't really serviced by her vocals so much (which worked better with the lethargic slop of "Gimme More").

Bad-trance-dance sounds better with pitched-up, sped-up vocals. Like, if this actually sounded like the Ultrabeat remix of Sugababes' "About You Now" I'd probably love it.

what's wooshy, you kids and your lingo

like boshy but w/ a gliding lightness

whooshy >>>> boshy

produced by dr. luke + max martin

dr. luke remixed the mortal kombat film theme

everything is clear now

As people are kind of pointing out, it sounds like a Bangin' Club Remix of a normal pop song from 10 years ago.

also she went dubstep already, like 4 years ago, so that is really not a notable thing

She never actually went dubstep, that was just Dissensus dudes overreaching.

But Matt, it says on the liner notes to my copy of Android Soundzzz that it was Britney's dubstep turn in 2006 that influenced Cassie to work with Salem.

she did the wobble thing when it was hip

i dont think ppl really expect anything more from the idea of "britney doing dubstep"

she hasn't actually gone dubstep here either. like "freakshow", "hold it against me" just contains one obvious dubstep element

Dubstep doesn't have a monopoly on "wob wob wob" noises. It was a coincidence.

Matt, you don't get it.

All wob wob wob noises = influenced by dubstep.

All fiddly beats = influenced by grime.

A sampled voice that is not the singer's = influenced by Burial.

idk thats p overly simplistic, at that moment wob wob noises DID kinda mean dubstep.

i've been told that "it's pop music - don't overthink it. we'll all be dancing to this at the club."

you're all informed.

can't think what that tune bit reminds me of... maybe viva la vida ?!

it is kind of amusing to hear the faux dubstep breakdown segueing seamlessly into a standard trance snare rush..

lol i totally agree, i like it though.

if they do a good video for this single it could possibly be elevated to amazing status.

It starts off really fun with the goofy "VOO!! VOO!!" saw noises on the upbeats, but then it becomes totally generic at the "If I said my heart was beating loud..." part. They should put the saw noises in a better song.

might be the only one who hears Solid HarmoniE in the chorus. It's the staccato harmony and the near a cappella. it's really strange; I keep expecting Max to throw in some of his old piano stabs too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2xg5U8UJkM

yeah the thought never crossed my mind. i remember that song though, haha

Blackout and Circus were good but they were both released at a time where the Dance sound wasn't over saturated, so I actually considered both albums good. As long as this doesn't turn out like Bionic, she should be fine. Britney always seems to be one step ahead with her sound compared to everyone else in the Pop scene. She gets a lot of criticism because she doesn't write her own songs but screw it, some of the best vocal artists of the past 25 years only wrote half of their catalogs anyway.

maybe I'm just not in the mood or maybe I shouldn't have paused a Third Eye Foundation album to listen to this, but I think this is straight up hot garbage

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Agreed, MintIce. If she appears to be even the slightest bit late on the whole Dance music bandwagon, her album will suffer the same fate as Bionic. The "dubstep" breakdown is just the absolute worst. It's like this song is pulling from conflicting genres of electronic music that are hot for popstars to ape right now. She shoulda gone chillwave or witch house (Italo, even!) if she wanted to stay ahead of the pack.

has any other US popstar released a song which directly apes from dubstep though ("freakshow" did on blackout, and so did some Rihanna songs but they were never released)? this could actually be the first of many dubstep influenced pop songs in the charts.

I know you are being snarky Brainwasher. :P The whole situation was pretty silly in retrospect. The person actually stopped talking to me after that discussion.

Another incident I had at a party, someone said "Fuck you" to me when I mentioned Britney's live performances were lacking big time.

The girl has die hard supporters. She needs to retire for her sake.

die hard

that's pretty crazy that he stopped talking to u bc u thought janet was cooler than brit

it's like, woah, way to take a situation out of hand, broth

was at local club the other night, and can confirm that Til The World Ends is pretty fuckin rad.

"the 30 seconds or so after "dj, what you waitin for" are just precision engineered for artifically straightened hair to whip around on a strobe-lit dancefloor as mooky dudes kind of chunter along on the periphery, day-glo wristbands around their chunky wrists, clappin along, but if you're in the middle of it and the dry ice gushes out and catches the lasers as all of this is happening then this song must be such a fuckin rush at that point"

:D

won't u give me somethin to remember
baby shut ur mouth and turn me inside out
even tho we couldn't last forever
baby
u know what i want right now
hit me one more time it's so amazin
how you shook my world and flipped it upside down
you're the only one who ever drove me crazy
cuz you know me inside out.

this "burning up" cover is SO BAD

like "oh god my ears when is it going to end" level bad

is it worse than the 'i can't get no satisfaction' cover?

The first four tracks are just ace. Then things get dicey. "Inside Out" and "I Wanna Go" - yum. I've been listening to "I Wanna Go" on repeat for days.

too kesha for me. til the world ends is admittedly a very good song but it remains too kesha for me as well. i can't.

Don't hate any of it, don't love any of it. Meh.

this "burning up" cover is SO BAD

I just played 15 seconds of it and was appalled

is it a cover of the madonna song burning up?

"cover" is too charitable

"wholly misconceived attempt to update a song that didn't need updating" is more accurate

I am shocked that an artist who's recorded exactly two good songs in her entire career couldn't pull a rabbit out of the hat with this one

lol

"2 good songs" is some hilarious shit

Well, the point that she's put out a bunch of overhyped shit is a valid one to make (then again I'm still the only person on Earth who still doesn't like "Toxic")

if I accept djp's anti-"Toxic" stance then the only thing left is "Lucky"

uh huh

haha okay I can see the redeeming value in "Toxic" even though it's not my thing but "Lucky" is kind of the textbook definition of "Britney poopburger"

(and I do think she has more than 2 good songs, it's just that I generally like her when she's an afterthought on the track)

lucky is good bc it is so disney

i like the AND THE WORLD KEEPS SPINNING AND SHE JUST KEEPS WINNING part in lucky

Madonna's voice and force of personality (with all her early chutzpah and hunger) is so key to "Burning Up" that I can't really see anyone doing it justice, but Britney's version is particularly horrific. "I'm not the others, I'll do anything" sounds really quite sad coming from her now, emphasising her complete lack of autonomy post-conservatorship that is the very opposite to Madonna's statement of intent and control all that time ago. Plus, it needs guitars!

Her cover of "Satisfaction" is great though! That and "Don't Go Knock My Door" was a really good two song sequence.

"I'm not the others, I'll do anything" sounds really quite sad coming from her now, emphasising her complete lack of autonomy post-conservatorship

i got sad just reading this. i can't really deal with britney's music anymore, because of her life.

You can't separate life from art?

britney sounding completely bored/dead/medicated on Femme Fatale makes it somewhat harder this time round (ie the life, or the non-life, is in the art now)

"art"

I see it the other way around, hence why she's made the second best album of her career.

Its predecessor, however, was nattering and listless.

i'm not defending Circus, lol

it bums me out too when i get the impression britney is just doing things because people are telling her to, which is why i like "mmm papi" even though it's a silly one-off of a song. she participated in the writing and she sounds invested in it and it find it enchanting.

ha ha, i went to wikipedia to verify her writing credit and found this gem:

"Mmm Papi" received negative reviews from music critics. Many said the song represents Spears' trouble with men, while noticing its lyrical content as a go-go romp with daddy issues and the nexus of cock-hungriness.

ok someone at ILM is responsible for that

it's not as good a nexus of cock-hungriness as "get naked"

You can't separate life from art?

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, June 24, 2011 4:16 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm not saying it's a reasonable response on my part, and i'm not like this about everyone, but she just makes me sad.

This still holds up.

I voted "Till the World Ends" on the ILM year-end poll, since it seemed like the consensus favorite, but the best track on here is really "Trip to Your Heart," which is gorgeous.

It is glorious, like a Lisa Frank folder come to life. I think you're right that "Till the World Ends" is more popular, but I voted for "Trip to Your Heart" anyway. That last "trip to your hear-aar-aar-aart" gets me every time.

don't know if we have a more recent britney thread, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAxY9sjpMM

so it's intended for the smurfs 2 soundtrack, but i swear i'm hearing the lyric "we don't fuck 'til we got enough" in there. maybe if they play it during the movie they'll change "fuck" to "smurf."

pretty sure it's "we don't STOP til we got enough"

offcut yeah but still this is garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVcSNnqRD0c

video for the smurf single is ultra-terrible & the height of laziness, but brit's so cute and lively in it that i love it anyway. jayden and sean preston's presence is awkwardly cute too.

like the Smurf single

http://25.media.tumblr.com/5abb084c87e52fa46258e19172c04a4f/tumblr_mps55iK73L1qa03y5o1_500.gif

best bit, just hammin' it up for the kids. also people are saying that's jamie-lynn's daughter maddie in the row behind them?

Video was as awkward as something made by ARK music imo

"children's movie" now translates to "katy perry" apparently. welcome to america thank you and goodnight

disappointing single tbh