ITT list passionate music opinions you had 5-10 years ago that you now believe the complete opposite of

1. Jay-Z sucks
2. Rihanna will be a one hit wonder and not worth listening to

3. The Beatles shouldn't fuck off

4. that there's no point purposefully seeking out new music to hear, because the collected volume of old music would make for better pickin'

5. Kool Keith is the best MC alive (I mean I like him but I way overfellated the dude circa 2002)

6. Mystikal just screams a lot, who wants to hear James Brown over a rap beat, lame.

7. A four-to-the-floor drum machine rhythm is inferior to a breakbeat. (I guess I have come round to the opposite point of view just in time for breakbeats to come back in)

Sonic Youth are a fantastic band

9. The guy from Rhapsody (now Rhapsody of Fire) has a mediocre voice.
10. Blind Guardian is just overdramatic lame power metal and they just read Tolkien to nerds on stage.
11. Death metal growls are stupid and anyone can do em (ok I held that opinion more like 12-14 years ago)

springsteen's "the river" is too gloopy 80s pop for me to enjoy

13. there is no good rap under 120 bpm (this is less a passionate musical opinion I had than a completely retarded one)

House and techno and rap are the only 1980s music worth listening to.

(Been listening to nothing but early 80s boogie and disco for the last month.)

you are really branching out there.

Well okay, it wasn't so much a passionate opinion rather than a general indifference towards early 80s club music.

(x-post)

Haha, well I still don't care about rock music of any decade, and I like some 80s synth pop, but I've grown to love boogie which I used to think was kinda too smooth and bland.

15. Rob Halford is better than Bruce Dickinson

a better person?

lol, vocalist. or in bed, your choice

16. Synthes and guitaires shalt not mixe.

heh I made peace with number 16 so that I could enjoy Seventh Son of a Seventh Son

17. Electronic music is inferior to people who play actual instruments (again, more 12-14 years ago, but a really hypocritical opinion too at the time)
18. Metallica's Load and Reload are great albums.

well to be honest for me it was very specific to punk/indie stuff. I was fine with old 70s stuff like Frankenstein.

xp

19. Rap can be used for good if it's done by people who are sensitive or socially aware.

20. Punk sucks (more like 16 years ago)

kkvgz i went through that phase in college. not that I didn't like the blingy rap but I felt conditioned by my peers that I shouldn't like it, so that was my Dead Prez/The Coup phase (although to be fair I still like both)

21. This was more like 15 years ago, but I used to think techno and house (and rap) were the only things worth listening to, and the music made before they were invented was boring, save for a few exceptions (mostly disco). Now almost half of my record collection consists of records made before I was born (1979).

22. Origin suck.
23. Keane are amazing (not so much completely opposite as I think 'pretty good).
24. Radiohead's Amnesiac is boring (no wait, I actually still believe that).
25. Bands should have good musicianship or gtfo the stage.

19. Rap can be used for good if it's done by people who are sensitive or socially aware.

I had almost the opposite opinion when I was in my early 20s, I used to think that only hardcore and gangsta rap was good (though that included Dead Prez and The Coup too, because they were pretty gangsta), and groups like De La Soul or Arrested Development were shite. Nowadays I find the hardcore rap of today mostly boring, but I do still play my old Cypress Hill albums. And I even like Arrested Development.

26. Post-rock was the future

post-rock was most definitely the future of post-rock though. that silent ballet website made me aware of that. still a ton of tortoise-minded people out there. even in 2011.

27. Ninja Tune was the future.

^ was gonna post that or something like it, but tbh was more like 14 years ago

i have since then been otm

28. No good jazz was recorded in the 1970s except by Miles Davis.

29. Mainstream music was on the whole shitty and not worth my time.

def did #29 from about ages 22-24.

30. The 80s were terrible. 10-12 years ago I thought everything about 80s music was awful apart from Sonic Youth, the Fall and the Wedding Present. I still had a guilty fondness for 80s hits I remembered from childhood, but avoided listening to them so I didn't have to think too hard about the discrepancy.

Now last.fm says half my listening is from the 80s and the only one of those 3 exceptions I've listened to in the past couple of years would be the Fall. Still like the others in theory, but don't feel the need to listen to them.

Lyrics are pointless except for how they sound.

(31)

32 townes van zandt is boring

I still think that, but I'm not passionate about it.

it was actually steve earle's new album of all townes songs that made me go back and reconsider dude

i also used to think steve earle was boring but i guess they kinda redeemed each other

33. Notorious B.I.G.'s "Born Again" isn't worth listening to cuz it's just an attempt to bank on his name after death. (not necessarily debating the latter, but it IS worth listening to).

34. Jazz is boring
35. Classical music is boring
36. Only intelligent people can make good music
37. Disco is corny

38 Jazz-rock fusion is the worst of both worlds

39 Heavily compressed, distorted guitars in pop music sound really great.

40. DJ jazzy jeff and fresh prince Code Red is a good album (it's not)

Oh yeah, #38 TOTALLY

41. The Gotan Project are so classy and sophisticated! I can't play La Revancha Del Tango enough!

42. 'the soft bulletin' is the BEST ALBUM EVERRRRRRR

55-57 OTM

26. Post-rock was the future

Yeah I remember discovering post-rock around the same time a lot of post-rock-inspired movie scores were getting made and thinking this. I was kind of excited by the idea that every hard-hitting action thriller from then on was going to sound kinda like GY!BE, but now I have seen the future of film music and it goes "mrrrrwwwwrrrr.... THOOOWWWMMMP"

60. "First Impressions of Earth" (The Strokes) will be regarded as landmark album 5-10 years in the future.

61. Britney Spears sucks and Christina Aguilera is pretty good. Christina didn't record Blackout.

51. Fuck a mixtape. I'll listen to your shit when you make a real album.

Mixtapes are of terrible quality and I no longer waste my CD-Rs or hardrive space on that crap. Not to mention most of it is recycled and there are only around three DJs that are decent at making what is basically NOW That's What I Call Hip-Hop and R&B! compilations.

xpost I used to think that tho I still don't like Britney Spears' music.

re: pop singers, I remember this pretty LOL article after Jessica Simpson first came out saying she had the vocal talent akin to Mariah Carey and was ergo superior to Christina. Hope dude was fired from his job after that.

thread would be better if ppl proved actual ilx posts from 5-10 years ago

like

In 30 years, what band(s) will be considered most influential? Radiohead?

i'll do it if other people promise to.

I'm no indie kid. I have hated Jay-Z's music from the beginning. He is a mediocre MC at best and he occasionally benefits from the decent beat, but that's it.
I hated him from the first moment I saw him, even when I was a youngster who thought MTV was god, eons and eons ago.

― uh, Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:33 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

political opinions of bands you liked were worth considering

This is a great thread! Interesting to see a softening attitude over time.

62. Content = Quality.

63. The only good dance music is "intelligent"

I'm no indie kid. I have hated Jay-Z's music from the beginning. He is a mediocre MC at best and he occasionally benefits from the decent beat, but that's it.

I hated him from the first moment I saw him, even when I was a youngster who thought MTV was god, eons and eons ago.

― uh, Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:33 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the timeline of this is fucking me up. do you mean, like when you saw him in the "hawaiian sophie" video or something??!?

64 (why are these being numbered btw?) UK garage is boring and cheezy

name your favorite unrecognized musical genius

yeah, no

the timeline of this is fucking me up. do you mean, like when you saw him in the "hawaiian sophie" video or something??!?

pretty sure I was talking out of my ass, the first time I'd even seen dude in a video was Big Pimpin, and that was only like 3-4 years prior

I criticized your rather ridiculous original statement, but not in a way I namecalled you, I just mentioned you really missed the point of the article. That, and calling someone a fuckwit, are different things.
I don't see much in the way of stylistic diversity on pop radio. Keep in mind I work in a store that plays that crap daily on the loudspeakers, and I hear it daily. It sounds just as boring and stale, not to mention generic, as it did to me 4 years ago.

― uh (eetface), Sunday, May 9, 2004 3:38 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

55-57 OTM

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:08 (16 hours ago)

OTM, but sad.

65 Synth pop / electropop is for teen girls and gay college students.
66 Post-rave German electronic music has no emotional pull.

Honestly I could reel off a dozen of these for my opinion reversing from age 17 to age 27. The last decade, not so much.

55-57 otm, but

67. house music is stupid
68. springsteen/fleetwood mac/grateful dead = snoozy dadrock
69. ryan adams is a worthwhile musician
70. pfork's estimation of an album's worth is something i should pay attention to
71. the only rap worth listening to is backpacker rap (i'm white btw)

72. country/metal is for racists/heshers

I guess I am repping for 55-57 bcz I think it was a good epiphany for me that opinions on music were not a make-or-break deal. Like I can respect someone who has totally different opinions on music than me. I am still interested in forming and discussing them, but I am not going to get really baffles or whatevs about someone disagreeing with me. Por ejemplo, my brother got married two years ago to a delightful woman who really loves all the contemporary country that I couldn't stand growing up, and who imparted that love to him. I think that five years ago, I would have seen my brother buying tickets to an Alan Jackson concert as some kind of tragic betrayal, but now I am just happy he is enjoying himself.

ALSO good (#57) because IMO it got kind of exhausting to form opinions on all this music I wasn't really that passionate about. Like feeling I had to be on top of all music, all the time, was really draining. Also expensive. It is okay not to have heard an album, is how I feel now.

so otm — for the longest time I felt like I had to be a ~mirror of the world~ and have an informed opinion about everything in art. now I think it's okay to just not like some things. like "there's too much music to hear and you're never going to hear all of it, but that's okay"

Yea that attitude can make music feel like a chore.

When I wrote reviews for a metal site years ago, often I'd shop for cds, and sometimes I'd see one I was in the mood for now and one that I wasn't but was an "important" release in the genre, and I'd buy the latter out of a feeling of near obligation.

Now I just listen to what I feel like at that time.

73. Mainstream r&b is boring and shallow. The artists involved are not smart and talented. Neo-Soul and conscience rap will be the future of urban music as those people are keeping "real" music alive.

Ok I was 15 and into Talib Kweli, Eryka Badu, Common and their ilk. I'm glad my sister told me to get over myself on that one. Plus, I realized that my perception of "mainstream and "neo-soul" was well not smart basically.

74. Electronic music is only worthwhile if it's A. hard, fast and relentless, B. ridiculously complicated / self-consciously smart a la IDM. (this is about 8-10 years ago).

71. the only rap worth listening to is backpacker rap (i'm white btw)

― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:47 (Yesterday)

think that's implicit!

75. i should restrict myself to listening to a select bunch of artists/genres and not make an effort to hear and appreciate as much music as i can (closer to 10 years ago than 5 probably)

76. Lil Jon sucks cuz he's not lyrical like Public Enemy (actually a quote here about him I made somewhere)

77. radiohead

Mixtapes are of terrible quality and I no longer waste my CD-Rs or hardrive space on that crap. Not to mention most of it is recycled and there are only around three DJs that are decent at making what is basically NOW That's What I Call Hip-Hop and R&B! compilations.

I was talking about artist mixtapes like Trunk Muzik, K.R.I.T. Wuz Here, Roachy Balboa, etc. (Though 5+ years ago it was Public Enemy #1, We Got It 4 Cheap 2, and Dedication 2.)

(Though 5+ years ago it was Public Enemy #1, We Got It 4 Cheap 2, and Dedication 2.)

first sentence to ever make me feel old.

Wow, you have all closed yourselves off to so much music!

78. that i still needed to buy canon albums when i saw them, as if BEST ALBUMS EVER lists were my little secret. fuck you van morrison and whoever wrote about him for stealing my pocket money when i could have bought drugs instead.

haha yeh. I think we all went through cannon fodder phases, no? Actually, "artists you checked out cos they're cannon, only to find out that they're shit" thread might be funny until it turns into straight-up sacred cow bashing.

There's already a thread for dissing canon albums:

What was the last classic album you got and weren't knocked out by?

fuck you van morrison and whoever wrote about him for stealing my pocket money when i could have bought drugs instead.

delightfully OTM

Lester Bangs jacked me for my stash.

79. minimal techno will take the world and the charts by storm (ten years ago).

i guess i've reversed myself so many times on so many things i don't even write stuff off (or try not to)...also why i never sell stuff used cuz i never know when it's gonna end up grabbing me later

Wasn't there thread once about records you sold to a used shop, only to change your mind and buy the very same record back later?

i think it's worth hearing "canon" albums when one has the chance, so long as such lists are not taken as gospel. i mean, i'm glad i checked out the clash, van morrison, etc. all those years ago. i found them to be shit, but i'm glad i at least gave them a shot!

i think there's something in that, but yeah it was much more regrettable when you spent your hard-saved teenage cash on some bucket of shite.

80. If I like an album the first time I hear it, it must be mediocre. All great albums are difficult to get into.

I'm pretty much the opposite now

It depends on genre for me, but with metal it often takes me three listens to know whether the album is special or not...

Rap I can usually make a base, nonanalytical decision on first listen, but even then I've been known to have a vastly different experience from first to second listen (especially with something like Enter the Wu-Tang).