go for it
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:42 (fourteen years ago)
imo
American GangsterThe BlueprintThe Black Album
...
the other ones
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:49 (fourteen years ago)
well we're off to a good start
― basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:49 (fourteen years ago)
Let's get controversial:
1. Reasonable Doubt2. American Gangster3. The Blueprint4. The Black Album5. In My Lifetime
American Gangster = actual depth of feeling; The Blueprint = crocodile tears
― Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:51 (fourteen years ago)
Yes to JF
― Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:52 (fourteen years ago)
Reasonable DoubtBlueprintVol 1Dynasty: RocVol 3Black AlbumVol 2Blueprint 2Kingdom ComeAmerican GangsterBlueprint 3
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:52 (fourteen years ago)
Reasonable Doubt would likely be my #4, but it's really just at the top of the pile of Jay-Z albums I don't really spin on a regular basis.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:53 (fourteen years ago)
The BlueprintReasonable DoubtIn My LifetimeThe Black AlbumAmerican Gangsterthe rest
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:54 (fourteen years ago)
reasonable doubtlifetime vol 2 (i like this way more than anyone else for some reason)the blueprintlifetime vol 1lifetime vol 3black albumdynastyblueprint 2american gangsterkingdom comeblueprint 3 -- or i'm assuming hated everything i heard and never wanted to hear it
― basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:55 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I'd be surprised if Blueprint 3 wasn't in dead last place on everyone's list.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:59 (fourteen years ago)
Blueprint 3 at least has higher highs than Kingdom Come & Blueprint 2. But yeah.
― Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)
Blueprint 2 has "Excuse Me Miss" though.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)
A meager bill of fare admittedly, but Blueprint 3 had no reason to exist.
Reasonable DoubtBlueprintVol 3Black AlbumVol 1Dynasty: RocVol 2
JAY-Z HAS NO OTHER ALBUMS BESIDES THESE 7
― max, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:02 (fourteen years ago)
reasonable doubtvol2blueprintvol3the other ones i odnt really care i never listen to them as albums
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:07 (fourteen years ago)
Blueprint 3 at least has higher highs than.........Blueprint 2.
That's absolute bullshit.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:09 (fourteen years ago)
reasonable doubtblueprintvol 3vol 2black albumvol 1dynastyblueprint 2
etc etc
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:10 (fourteen years ago)
Reasonable DoubtThe BlueprintVol. 1Vol. 3DynastyBlack AlbumBlueprint 2Vol. 2American GangsterBlueprint 3Kingdom Come
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:10 (fourteen years ago)
xpost
^May be truth, it's been a while. What are Blueprint 2's go-to tracks? I never found any that stuck.
― Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:11 (fourteen years ago)
American Gangster is way better than most of y'all are giving it credit for. How is that album so divisive? Is it just fumes from the Kingdom Come/Blueprint 3 era bad mojo?
― Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)
idg the dislike for it either, but it's an unwinnable argument.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)
Not arguin, just curious.
― Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:28 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think I've ever really made it through any of his entire albums, dude is like a singles artist to me
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:35 (fourteen years ago)
nas is way better.
― historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:36 (fourteen years ago)
The BlueprintReasonable Doubt (tbh these first two depend on the day)Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life (runs a close second as a nostalgic fave, used to listen to this ALL THE TIME)The Black AlbumVol. 3... Life and Times of S. CarterRoc La FamilisThe Blueprint 2 (really, once you edit it down a little)In My Lifetime, Vol. 1American GangsterThe Blueprint 3Kingdom Come
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)
Blueprint BlueprintReasonable DoubtThe Black AlbumVol 2American GangsterVol 1DynastyVol 3Blueprint 2Blueprint 3
Just a guess I am only going from my memory. Never heard Kingdom Come.
― pf smangs (San Te), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:56 (fourteen years ago)
― Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 7:14 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this basically: http://www2.citypaper.com/arts/story.asp?id=14763
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:58 (fourteen years ago)
Vol 2Black AlbumVol 3BlueprintReasonable DoubtVol 1Dynasty: RocAmerican GangsterBlueprint 2Kingdom ComeBlueprint 3
― odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 01:00 (fourteen years ago)
black album number 2??? justify your thug whiney
― *kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 01:38 (fourteen years ago)
Vol 2----Vol 3Reasonable DoubtVol 1----BlueprintDynasty: RocBlueprint 2----American GangsterBlack Album----Kingdom ComeBlueprint 3
lines denote interchangeability
― *kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 01:40 (fourteen years ago)
w/ whiny & helgeson on #2 although im biased cuz thats when i basically 'discovered' dude
id heard his stuff earlier, but it was the first time he felt like a big deal i guess
whiney is a huge black album stan cuz it has the rick rubin run-dmc track on it
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:40 (fourteen years ago)
― The Reverend, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 7:09 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
aside from the fact that blueprint 3 has literally 0 highs, blueprint 2 has WE POPPIN TAGS PIMPIN WE BE POPPIN TAGS
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:41 (fourteen years ago)
anyway
BlueprintReasonable Doubt--Vol 3--Dynasty: RocVol 1Vol 2---Black Album---Blueprint 2---American GangsterBlueprint 3Kingdom Come
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:43 (fourteen years ago)
On To the Next One is clearly a high
― Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)
higher than Hovi Baby, All Around The World, Poppin' Tags, U Don't Know Remix, Some People Hate or Show You How, though?
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:51 (fourteen years ago)
"on to the next one" is a good beat
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:53 (fourteen years ago)
it's an aight song but like...every other Jay-Z album has at least a couple songs way better than it.
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:54 (fourteen years ago)
hmmmmm
1. blueprint2. american gangster3. black album4. reasonable doubt5. vol 1/vol 3/vol 2 (all kinda interchangeable imo)||||<------ big quality gap|||6. blueprint 37. dynasty8. kingdom come
haven't heard the other ones yet sorry (blueprint 2.1? pffffftt)
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:56 (fourteen years ago)
vol 1, 2 and 3 are vastly different albums with different strengths and weaknesses
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:58 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i know they're different, just saying personally i like them all about equally, or the rank could change day to day-- dont have a strong preference for any single one of them
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:59 (fourteen years ago)
That's a great article by Al Shipley on American Gangster, and he makes nothing but cogent points. But I don't value the same things he does in Jay-Z's music. American Gangster is so exciting to me *because* Jay's not quite on point. He sounds like he working something out. You can almost hear his process. And that's enforced by non-pop song structures for the only time in his career, and the Frank Lucas shit--which begins corny, but spins into this echo-chamber of proto-Rick Ross-ian persona bullshit, but with some real emotional weight to it, as opposed to the play-acting he did on The Blueprint. It's Jay's rawest album next to Reasonable Doubt.
Plus, Ignorant Shit.
― Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
y u hate dynasty? xp
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
American Gangster is so exciting to me *because* Jay's not quite on point. He sounds like he working something out. You can almost hear his process.
this is a really nice & sugar coated way of saying "jay sounds old & out of breath & unable to stay on beat"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:07 (fourteen years ago)
Gotta go back and hear those Blueprint 2 tracks, honestly. Excited to now, though.
― Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:07 (fourteen years ago)
wow yeah ilxor thats way underrating dynasty ... any album w/ '1900 hustler' doesnt belong in the same batch as one w/ 'beach chair'
― *kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:07 (fourteen years ago)
i overrated american gangster bcuz 'ignorant shit' is so dope
― *kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:08 (fourteen years ago)
american gangster has three good songs "roc boys" (his last great single), "success" (altho nas has the best verse) & "ignorant shit" -- everything else is TERRIBLE tho, just awful
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:09 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i kinda shortchanged dynasty..... never really clicked w/ me, there were 4 great albums before it & i just didnt spend that much time w/ it b/c it didnt seem as great as the others. and then a year later was blueprint, etc. etc., so then i REALLY had no reason to look back. i should play it again
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:09 (fourteen years ago)
heads up, important poll
Worst Jay-Z Album
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)
important question: does your copy of reasonable doubt have umlaut above the 'Y' in 'JAY-Z'????
― tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
underrated BP2 track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ5A2aKmZhI
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
is it as good as the movie?
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
otm symsymsym that was one of my fav tracks on that album
― *kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
tho according to e-music, it is "a complex story song that many Jay-neaologists call his best ever". but nothing will ever be as good as the movie, ilxor
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
reasonable doubt--vol 3vol 1vol 2--the blueprint--dynasty: roc la familiathe black album----the rest
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago)
Still bewildered by people thinking The Black Album is way better (or even any better) than BP2.
― Tim F, Friday, 7 October 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago)
^
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago)
tbf i've only heard BP2 once or twice and i like some of the singles
i'm more bewildered by ppl thinking the black album is any better than any of the albums i listed above it
― k3vin k., Friday, 7 October 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago)
the better half of BP2 murders Black Album but you can't just ignore double album bloat
― nəverDirty (some dude), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, but still
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago)
I can't really ignore single album bloat either tho some dude.
― Tim F, Friday, 7 October 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago)
Black Album is very patchy but it's also his shortest album so 'bloat' isn't really the right word
― nəverDirty (some dude), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago)
Hm. I can't think of The Black Album as bloated.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:29 (thirteen years ago)
xpost no maybe not - I just mean that when I'm listening to TBA it doesn't seem any less patchy than either disc of BP2, so it comes across as one disc of a second bloated double album.
― Tim F, Friday, 7 October 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago)
oh wait no reasonable doubt is 4 seconds shorter than the black album, but still
― nəverDirty (some dude), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago)
if BP2 maintained the level of quality it starts with throughout, it'd be up there with LAD or AEOM.
― Neanderthal, Friday, 7 October 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago)
yeah that's the thing, it has lots of good songs but the moment you hold it up to any classic rap double album measuring stick you realize how much filler it has
― alan2dyk (some dude), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:53 (thirteen years ago)
ha!
http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/jayz-ranks-his-solo-album-collection/
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago)
that's actually not terrible, i like how he realizes his newer work is mostly shit
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago)
were those captions from the man himself or from whoever wrote that post?
he's gassed off magna carta tho
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago)
no yeah those are from jay
Ranking American Gangsta and Magna Carta ahead of both Vols 1 and 3 is some crazy shit.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago)
even in their most honest moments you probably can't get them to say anything bad about their last album after less than 6 months. overall pretty respectable.
― deez the season (some dude), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago)
it's pretty silly how "Sunshine" is this huge strike against Vol. 1 in his (and most people's) eyes but nobody puts an asterisk next to The Black Album for "Change Clothes"
― deez the season (some dude), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago)
I like to read the thread title with 'rank' working as an adjective
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago)
http://www.whudat.com/news/images/jay-z-not-the-prez-big.jpg
"Sorry critics, it's good"
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago)
don't agree with the list 100% (I'm a Vol 3 stan) but those are some pretty perceptive notes.
― g simmel, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago)
1. watch the throne2. dynasty (intro alone...)3. blueprint 24. blueprint5. reasonable doubt6. vol 27. vol 18. vol 39. black album
― dylannn, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago)
12. Kingdom Come (First game back, don’t shoot me)
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago)
#factsonly
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago)
do we all get to insert Magna Carta in our old lists now?
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago)
trying to imagine LL getting away with "First game back, don't shoot me" on "Mama Said Knock You Out."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago)
lol at Jigga's list.
― longneck, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago)
Tim F otm
― Al He Miola (Spottie), Thursday, 5 December 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago)
the way the Jay-Z poll came out was interesting, in both the albums subpoll and how the track totals shaked out by album: JAY-Z ILM TRACKS POLL RESULTS - WORD TO THE HYPHEN IN MY NAME
― deez the season (some dude), Thursday, 5 December 2013 05:02 (eleven years ago)
that poll was the best
― Al He Miola (Spottie), Thursday, 5 December 2013 05:11 (eleven years ago)
word to the hyphen no longer in my name
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 5 December 2013 05:12 (eleven years ago)
that was after hyphengate, the thread title was an act of defiance
― deez the season (some dude), Thursday, 5 December 2013 05:21 (eleven years ago)
nahhhhh jay-z gets no points from me for shading vol 3 like that
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 09:47 (eleven years ago)
all-time album
reasonable doubt
stone-cold classics
volume 1blueprint
great but flawed
volume 2volume 3
hit and miss but with great highs
dynastyblack albumblueprint 2
grandpa, stop
everything else
― k3vin k., Sunday, 18 October 2015 04:09 (nine years ago)
vol 2vol3bp2vol1dinastyrdbp1ba...
― ANU (sisilafami), Sunday, 18 October 2015 10:51 (nine years ago)
in the main I agree with k3vin
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2015 13:49 (nine years ago)
american gangster in the hit-and-miss with great highs cat for me
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 19 October 2015 02:10 (nine years ago)
American Gangster is easily his worst, imo. On Kingdom Come at least he's trying. I'll take an honest failure over its half-assed apology any day.
― longneck, Monday, 19 October 2015 11:36 (nine years ago)
otm
― some dude, Monday, 19 October 2015 14:16 (nine years ago)
or at least AG was his worst when he made it, BP3 kinda dug a trough underneath it
― some dude, Monday, 19 October 2015 14:17 (nine years ago)
Vol 3 is #1
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 00:48 (nine years ago)