Taking Sides: Brian Wilson vs. Richard Carpenter

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Quality of vision vs. tenacity with respect thereto/palpable intensity thereof

― J0hn Darn1elle, Saturday, 24 August 2002 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)

For "quality" sc. "nature" not "excellence" or analogues. Also: Lord of the subgenre or Overlord of the Metagenre? Visibility or Invisibility? All-drenching opacity vs. godlike transparency? -Godlike not "praiseworthy" necessarily so much as "similar to how deities are imagined to function."

[pls. let's avoid the sexy-death-icon model favored by Sonic Youth et al]

― J0hn Darn1elle, Saturday, 24 August 2002 19:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one-on-one, hand-to-hand combat- i'd take
brian. he's a bit older but he's fierce.
he's powerful. like a bulldog. he'd gouge
his eyes out.

― dk, Saturday, 24 August 2002 23:45 (twenty-three years ago)

pout mope pout mope I thought this was a pretty good question pout mope mope mope pout

― J0hn Darn1elle, Sunday, 25 August 2002 09:42 (twenty-three years ago)

BW, because wanting to kill your dad is cooler than wanting to fuck your sister if you don't actually do either

― dave q, Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Dave Q to the rescue. I would say more, John, if I knew much more about Richard Carpenter other than that he seems to make Skip Stephenson look and act like Sean Connery.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 August 2002 11:55 (twenty-three years ago)

It IS a good question, damned if I can answer it. I'm not sure, not having heard anything written by Richard Carpenter since the early 70s, about the vision thing. Tenacity? Wilson scores big points.

― matt riedl (veal), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

You know, they say Pet Sounds influenced Sgt. Pepper's...

― A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Sunday, 25 August 2002 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)

haha

― A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Sunday, 25 August 2002 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

So it must be Brian Wilson....

― A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Sunday, 25 August 2002 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, I don't have anything to contribute either. Dave Q's answer is spot on, the clever bastard.

― A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Sunday, 25 August 2002 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Can't decipher the question, but Carpenter has not inspired as many crappy songwriters to hide their tuneless indie pop behind fancy arrangements so he wins.

― Clyde, Monday, 26 August 2002 05:10 (twenty-three years ago)

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