Taking Sides: Genesis With Peter Gabriel vs. Peter Gabriel Solo

I have a huge special place in my heart for Gabriel-era Genesis. Nursery Cryme, Selling England by the Pound, and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway are all amazing.

It's hard to vote as I've lived with the Genesis albums way more than I have with his solo albums, which have also been fantastic. gonna have to wait and do some more field research.

PG solo has a wayyy better hit to miss ratio than most all of his Genesis albums. Also my favorite PG songs tower in greatness over most Genesis material. Like I would pick just "White Shadow" over the first four Genesis albums if I had to choose. Even "So" onwards I find more endurable and pleasant than those first couple Genesis albums. I do like Lamb Lies DOwn on Broadway a lot, tho...I once made my friend a little "action figure" of Rael from polymer clay, w/a removable penis.

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/04/ass_prog.html

This settles it in favour of Genesis as far as I'm concerned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W35wtfcByIY

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I kind of admire rather than like PG solo, A couple of Genesis' albums w PG are all time favourites to me, especially "Nursery Cryme", where they have this church music/english hym dynamic thing going on, so not really a difficult choice for me. That Belgian TV series is awesome, the Genesis one is my favourite, just a little bit better than the VdGG one. Gabriel in the early 70's was ridiculously good-looking!

I once made my friend a little "action figure" of Rael from polymer clay, w/a removable penis.

this is great!

I've got to go with Genesis too, PG's best solo stuff is great but Genesis had some weird magic in their best grooves that I don't think he recreated solo.

I adore PG solo stuff and did so at a formative year (High School) so I have to go with that.

The first two PG albums sound a bit drab and colourless to me, as though he was making a conscious effort to go against the Genesis aesthetic to prove a point. The 3rd and 4th ones are great but after So I lost interest. He needed Banks' melodic sense to turn his visions into persuasive songs.

PG Solo > PG Genesis > Mike & The Mechanics > non-PG Genesis >Phil Collins solo

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I think PG's "Passion" might be the best from either catalog tho

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Genesis with Gabriel is better, although Gabriel solo is way better than Genesis without him nor Steve Hackett.

(Not counting "From Genesis to Revelation" here, mind you....

this poll is painful only because it should be a open and shut case but apparently it is not for everyone

said it before ... i just don't get Gabriel-era Genesis.

Pretend the lyrics don't matter and listen to Selling England by the Pound. I did not get this album at first (and it was my first early Genesis album). But I usually say this is my favorite album of all time

but I'm no different than you about not getting certain music

Yeah, I think I was way off about a solo landslide, anyway.

not much to get about prog-Genesis imo, it's progressive, classically influenced rock music, with plenty of excess and quirkiness. Either you like that sort of thing or you don't. When it comes to it though I really think Genesis's prog was way more immediately ear catching than say, the noisy noodling of King Crimson (who I also love).

when i say that i "don't get" PG-era Genesis, i mean that it seems like they were trying to sound like Yes (a prog band that i DO like) -- only nowhere near as well. i do admit that Peter Gabriel's costumes were pretty nifty, tho'.

I cant choose. I love both early Genesis AND PG's solo stuff, for different reasons. I WON'T CHOOSE DON'T MAKE ME.

...oh ok Genesis then.

I mean come on, "I know what I like in my wardrobe" is such an awesome song.

when i say that i "don't get" PG-era Genesis, i mean that it seems like they were trying to sound like Yes (a prog band that i DO like) -- only nowhere near as well.

I feel like they didn't sound all that much like Yes at all. For starters, Yes were a lot more jazz influenced and slightly more "out there", Genesis were started as a songwriting vehicle and were much more about songs (read: melodies), less about performance and instrumental excel. Also, they had much more of an obvious English folk/medieval music influence than Yes ever had. They were also very careful (at least on albums) to do drum solos or long, intricate, non-hummable instrumental solos. Steve Hackett didn't play half as fast as Steve Howe sometimes would, and instead concentrated on creating melodically beautiful solos.

Mind you, I love Yes as well, but I love Genesis even more and I feel they are not very similar to each other.

yea Yes and Genesis may both be prog bands but they're from very different spectrums.

Yes are fucking shite

Pretend the lyrics don't matter and listen to Selling England by the Pound.

The lyrics are one of my fave things abt Gabriel-era Genesis! WHen I can make them out, anyway. Like I could not tell you wtf one contiguous chunk of "Harold The Barrel" says. Maybe I should rock that album again.

The best thing about Genesis: their records are plentiful & cheap in used record stores!

Well that's not "the best" at all but it's nice you could drop $15 on good copies of most of the PG-era discog.

I like the bit in Harold the Barrel where he cut off his toes. Or someone elses toes. I forget now.

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I like PG Genesis lyrics too but I remember the first time I heard 'Battle of Epping Forest'. I played it with some friends in the room and it was utterly weird to hear "just like any picnic...... picnic..... picnic...... picnic". It was one of those 0_0 moments. Along with the rest of the song. "You're telling me!"

lol, not a good song to spring on to people. I hadn't heard the album yet either

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....a FLOWER!?

Can I mention that Peter Gabriel used to be like a crazy incredibly hot dude.

Heck yes did he ever!

http://www.worleygig.com/wp-content/images/peter-gabriel.jpg

http://starling.rinet.ru/music/sleeves/zap_gabriel.jpg

http://www.rockofages.uk.com/stock/22028.jpg

http://mitkadem.homestead.com/files/genesis_peter_gabriel.jpg

that pic of him with triangle eyeliner (!!!!) and the flute is great

Mmm that Solsbury Hill one is tasty.

"Return of the Giant Hogweed" always sounded like metal played on non-metal instruments. always loved that one.

PG with Genesis for me, even though III and IV/Security are like, towering career-making highlights and genius. But so are Selling, Foxtrot, and Lamb.

also, though he obviously did some silly shit with Genesis, none of it was as bad as "kiss that frog" or "barry williams show"

^ total truthbomb right there.

I adore PG solo stuff and did so at a formative year (High School) so I have to go with that.

This--and 'Passion' is one of the most fucking fantastic instrumental albums ever

Passion is gorgeous, co-signed

genesis w/ gabriel is alright but maaaan, PG solo, some of my favorite music on earth, easy vote

Voted for solo Gabriel. I especially love the dank creepiness of those first few solo records. And Larry Fast on synths was a much better sonic partner than T. Banks. Gabriel in Genesis also too wordy and tweeee.

Just look at this list of ppl who helped on PG3. I always wated to know more abt Dave Gregory's role in the album.

Personnel

* Peter Gabriel – vocals, piano, synthesizer, bass synthesizer, percussion
* Kate Bush – backing vocals on "No Self Control" & "Games Without Frontiers", uncredited on "I Don't Remember"
* Jerry Marotta – drums, percussion
* Larry Fast – synthesizer, bass synthesizer
* Robert Fripp – guitar on "No self control", "I Don't Remember" & "Not One of Us"
* John Giblin – bass
* Dave Gregory – guitar
* Tony Levin – Chapman stick on "I Don't Remember"
* Phil Collins – drums on "Intruder" & "No Self Control"; snare drum on "Family Snapshot"; surdo on "Biko"
* Dick Morrissey – saxophone
* Morris Pert – percussion
* David Rhodes – guitar, backing vocals
* Paul Weller – guitar on "And Through the Wire"
* Dave Ferguson - screeches on "Biko"
* Steve Lillywhite - Producer

Just listening to "In the Cage" on heaphones at the moment. Such a fantastic sense of tension. Such a weird album.

Argh. Can't choose. Can't vote against either of them.

You're making me vote against either "The Cinema Show" or against "And Through the Wire." You cruel, cruel people.

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Just listening to "In the Cage" on heaphones at the moment. Such a fantastic sense of tension. Such a weird album.

Out of the 5:1 mixes done with the remasters a couple years back, I'd say "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" was the most interesting one.

I must get round to giving that a listen on a 5.1 system at some point.

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ILX got it wrong

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Not surprised that the result was the wrong one. But, OK, Peter Gabriel alone is also great, just not quite as great as he used to be with Genesis.

That "Music Box" live performance is amazing!

I was like:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183115_10150147384761098_585871097_8198113_2348824_n.jpg

Too bad Music Box didn't last, although I guess today it'd just been full of reality TV and soaps, just like MTV.....

yeah.. (sigh)

Sorry, "Musical Box" obv.

climax of "Musical Box" is one of the reasons why this poll got it wrong