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What is the Finnish metal scene like? Which subgenres are most represented, what is very unpopular? Turisas is from Finland and they are awesome - how big are they at home? Are CHILDREN OF BODOM taken seriously in Finland and looked up to by aspiring metal bands? Where do people play metal shows? In houses? At venues? Which region makes the most sinister, vile, kvlt metal?

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:46 (fifteen years ago)

I read that as Tuomas is from finland

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

the stock answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N0dIdeXcEY

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzJVFcccZBo

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3L0O7xlZj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLjel4tgMPQ

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvuOiQop_xY

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:51 (fifteen years ago)

Oh right I forgot Skepticism is from Finland. They are probably my favorite funeral doom band. Don't know this Thergothon though...

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:52 (fifteen years ago)

never did find out if wormphlegm were a bit "dodgy" or not. It stopped me buying anything by them at the time though

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:54 (fifteen years ago)

WORMPHLEGM LYRICS
demo: "In An Excruciating Way Infested With Vermin And Violated By Executioners Who Practise Incendiarism.." (2001)
1. In An Excruciating Way Infested With Vermin And Violated By Executioners Who Practise Incendiarism And Desanctifying The Pious

1. In An Excruciating Way Infested With Vermin And Violated By Executioners Who Practise Incendiarism And Desanctifying The Pious
Dark are these halls
and the air that the prisoners breathe tastes so putrid...
So malevolent that it would make even the most immune
feel very nauseous from the very first gasp of air...

Such is the sickening Hail of this pit...
Known to someone as Hell...
Halls of Torture, Eternal Lair of Stillness
where moments of torture feel as mercy itself

Perpetual Monotony

"vomit...flesh...blood...murder...bodies...
ruler...tyrant...obey him"

Fixed Helpless onto these rotting walls
the doomed await the coming torment...

Inhaling the upsetting scent of corpses
and the repulsing smell of sulphur
arising from the pits below their very feet...

Vomiting their lungs out
hoping to die
but they wont...

The master enters his torture chamber
his minions wait for his commands
helpless prisoners moan of fear

everyone the master considered to be tortured,
were tortured, some of them died, some didn't
one day he?ll come back again to torment the
ones he doesn't appreciate

Torture Jew:
Burn swastikas onto his skin 1000 and 1 times with
this burning hot marking iron
-So I shall burn swastikas onto his skin 1000 and 1
times with this burning hot marking iron

Torture priest:
Boil him in 1000-degree hot excrement
-I shall boil him in 1000-degree hot excrement
Penetrate his virgin ass with satan-shaped phallus
-I shall penetrate his virgin ass with S-S phallus

Torture Jehovah:
Tear down his kingdom and destroy his minions
-I shall tear down his kingdom and destroy his minions
Convert his followers or kill them if they resist
-I shall convert his followers or kill them if they resist

Torture Martin Luther:
Destroy his life work and rip all his skin slowly
-I shall destroy his life work and rip all his skin slowly
Beat him and impose thoughts of an anti-christian world on him
-I shall beat him and impose thoughts of an anti-christian world on him

Torture Allah:
Burn down Mecca and feed him all muslims
-I shall burn down Mecca and feed him all muslims

Torture Hindu:
Stick your hand into his anus and pull out his
guts, then feed him with the holy cow
-I shall stick my hand into his anus and pull out
his guts, then feed him with the holy cow

Torture Martin Luther King:
Break His Bones
-I shall Break his bones
Cut off his penis
-I shall cut off his penis
Cut off his tongue
-I shall cut off his tongue
Burn "White Power" onto his forehead
-I shall burn "White Power" onto his forehead

Torture Lars Levi Lestadius:
Incinerate his offspring
-I shall...
Grind his bones while he still breathes and feed
them to Saint Paul
-I shall...

Torture Saint Paul:
Make him blind again and feed him his eyes
-I shall...

Torture all:
Vomit on everyone, Crush everyone's bones
Rape everyone, Burn everyone
post-mortem for everyone
-I shall.....

everyone left alive still wait for the next time.
the waiting is even more horrid than the torture
itself.

one of the dead corpses still commits an act of diarrhoea

one of the hanging bodies still bleed a mixture of excrements and blood

Thanks to whateverhappenedtovilene for sending these lyrics.

Submits, comments, corrections are welcomed at webmas✧✧✧@darklyr✧✧✧.c✧✧

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 01:59 (fifteen years ago)

Torture Jew:
Burn swastikas onto his skin 1000 and 1 times with
this burning hot marking iron
-So I shall burn swastikas onto his skin 1000 and 1
times with this burning hot marking iron

that was definitely the bit i read about them before that made be not check em out further.

lol that i unwittingly posted that video

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 02:03 (fifteen years ago)

oh wait i didnt phew

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 02:03 (fifteen years ago)

Sarcofagus!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSQTR7ARVcA

You sure slapped some meat in their eyes, Jimmy. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 February 2011 06:23 (fifteen years ago)

Torturium are probably my favorite black metal Finns. Up until the (so far) last album "Black Lunatic Chaos," he always had some weird little twist or refinement that broke up the orthodox grimness (check out the weird, slide guitar-sounding bit 2:50 in that transforms the song, it's pretty great).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FIcwfdzlU

You sure slapped some meat in their eyes, Jimmy. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 February 2011 06:32 (fifteen years ago)

Also blah blah Ildjarn are great even if people copying that style gets old really quickly. And here's some Sort Vokter, which was Ildjarn-related and probably where Striborg got some of his ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KLFDsHDFAE

You sure slapped some meat in their eyes, Jimmy. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 February 2011 06:36 (fifteen years ago)

Mörkö are pretty awesome but I couldn't find their stuff on youtube. Their "IV" album is like super-minimalist black metal, really entrancing and noisy and weird. "III" is sludgy, heavier stuff with lots of vocal insanity and, uh, noisiness.

You sure slapped some meat in their eyes, Jimmy. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 February 2011 06:41 (fifteen years ago)

Um I really liked Wyrd early on but stopped paying attention. "Huldrafolk" was really good epic black metal forest-y stuff.

You sure slapped some meat in their eyes, Jimmy. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 February 2011 06:42 (fifteen years ago)

pretty sure sort vokter were norwegian.

cb, Saturday, 26 February 2011 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

The metal scene here is really big. It's not just the freaks and geeks who listen to it, it's probably the most popular genre of music at the moment. Metal albums regularly make it to the top 10 on sales charts. Though metal is more popular in smaller cities/towns and in Northern Finland than in the South. Hipsters tend to look down on metal, and it's less popular in hipper cities such as Helsinki and Turku. Still, there must about 5-10 different metal clubs/pubs in the Helsinki centre alone. Besides the metal clubs metal is often played at "regular" rock clubs too, being as popular as it is. And I think there are about 10 different rock festivals dedicated to metal alone.

For someone like me who grew up on dance music and rap, this situation is not very appealing. Thankfully I live in Helsinki, where's the a lot of variety in clubs and live venues, in a smaller town it might be harder to escape metal. Though to be honest, I can live with it as long as the music doesn't get overtly nationalistic or proto-fascist... Unfortunately there are some bands like that, though not among the most popular metal acts (I think).

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

pretty sure sort vokter were norwegian.

Yeah, and Ildjarn. Sorry y'all! Long day.

You sure slapped some meat in their eyes, Jimmy. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 February 2011 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

request thread's blessing to post nsfw image of completely awesome Finnish metal band "Ride for Revenge"

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 26 February 2011 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

Reverend Bizarre got a #1 single ergo Finland rules.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

Tuomas, do you know which style of metal is the most popular though? is it gothic girly metal stuff like Nightwish rather than the stuff posted in here? or is it metalcore like everywhere else?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

I've had a few killer nights out in Metal Corner in Helsinki, although one of those nights a guy did welcome me with the alarming phrase, "Ah, your accent is from the North Of England - do you follow Liverpool Football Club? Heil Hitler!" Complete with salute.

I've been out drinking with Korpiklaani a couple of times and they're like next level drinkers. I saw one of them fall off stage and land on his girlfriend and another member laughed so hard, that he also fell offstage. Their sound guy started beating the bass player up because he'd been sick in his trainers but then it turned out two other members of the band had also vomitted in his shoes so he had to just abandon the punishment.

I've been out on the lash with Bodom a few times as well. Their guitarist told me that he used to be in a band called Spider Kicker.

I'm listening to Circle right now... although this is neither (strictly speaking) metal or representative of most Finnish music. I've gotten on with every single Finnish band I've ever met and some of them (69 Eyes, Hanoi Rocks, H-I-M) have been really good company, a pleasure to hang out with but that really romantic, melodic strain of metal isn't really my core thing.

Chap With Wings... Five Rounds Rapid (Doran), Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

I love hanoi rocks and circle

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvsOghA2Rrs

Thijs, Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

yes!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

Tuomas, do you know which style of metal is the most popular though? is it gothic girly metal stuff like Nightwish rather than the stuff posted in here? or is it metalcore like everywhere else?

I think the melodic stuff is quite popular...? Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, they seem to sell really well. I think those kind of bands (as well as bands like Kotiteollisuus that blend metal with "suomirokki", a specific type of Finnish rock'n'roll music) are popular among the general population, whereas the more extreme metal subgenres are only popular among actual metalheads. I'm not an expert on the subject at all though, I don't even know what "metalcore" is.

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

thank your lucky stars. I wish I didn't.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Folk metal is really popular in Finland isn't it? Turisas,Finntroll,Korpiklaani & Moonsorrow and loads more

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

Mordy & Jeff know more about this stuff. they are the biggest folk metal fans on ILM

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

Browse band list by country - Finland
Total: 2656 bands
http://www.metal-archives.com/browseC.php?c=73

NYCNative, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

Folk metal is really popular in Finland isn't it? Turisas,Finntroll,Korpiklaani & Moonsorrow and loads more

There are a lot of those kind of bands, but I don't think they are super popular the way Nightwish and Stratovarius and Kotiteollisuus are.

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

No love for Amorphis?

NYCNative, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

Is Tarja's solo career popular, Tuomas?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know, sorry.

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

Looking at the Finnish album charts, her album "My Winter Storm" made it to the #1 spot, though it stayed there for only one week. And her 2010 album made it to #7, but after one week dropped from the top 10 altogether. So I guess she's relatively popular, but not quite as popular as Nightwish.

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Nightwish's Once spent ten weeks at #1. I'm pretty sure they're the most popular Finnish metal band of all time in Finland, at least among bands that sing in English. Out of the Finnish-speaking metal bands, I think only CMX might've outsold them in Finland, though obviously on a global scale Nightwish is probably the most biggest Finnish band of all time.

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

If metal is so popular in Finland do any pop/rap/dance groups ever incorporate metal guitars in their songs? Or maybe there's some lame pop group who wears metal gear?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think there are too many groups like that... Because metal is so popular, and because dance and rap tend to be more underground (with an occasional mainstream success), dance/rap artists often consider metal to be kinda boorish, so they keep a distance to it. But there have been some crossovers, especially with the more popular dance/rap acts, who don't have to care about underground credibility. Just a few weeks ago the popular "smut rapper" Petri Nygård relased a collab single with the popular metal band Mokoma:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MevnblrgqB4

The video parodies some well known metal album covers too.

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

Though IMO this single by Notkea Rotta was a better attempt to marry Finnish rap with metal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgxktOURwNs

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

the album covers bit is great!!! especially the nirvana - nevermind bit

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

I cant imagine living in a country where metal is mainstream and isn't just a cult underground thing.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

dance/rap artists often consider metal to be kinda boorish, so they keep a distance to it.

that is the kind of world we live in.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

Well TBH, I can't remember too many successful examples of metal/dance hybrids ever being made anywhere in the world.

Except, of course, Eskimos & Egypt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrDjVw8w48&feature=related

Tuomas, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

c'mon guys can I post this Ride for Revenge pic or not

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:33 (fifteen years ago)

it truly expresses what Finnish black metal is all about

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

I guess ILM's most profilic Finn is just about as much of a fan of Finnish metal as ILM's most profilic Norwegian is of Norwegian metal. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:42 (fifteen years ago)

Go for it uabiho.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 27 February 2011 02:56 (fifteen years ago)

wouldn't it be better if you just post the url so those who don't want to see it can avoid it? Rather than limit the amount of discussion on this thread because those at work cant participate anymore.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 03:05 (fifteen years ago)

I thought of that but then I wept because the impact of this image on the thread would be huge lol whereas the method you propose is compromised minimal lol

still, ladies and gentlemen, outstanding Finnish metal act Ride for Revenge, whose album Wisdom of the Snakes is among the best metal efforts of recent years:

http://muslib.ru/pb/95/955421/ride-for-revenge_734692.jpg

bonus:

http://www.metal-archives.com/images/4/8/3/0/48305_photo.jpg

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 27 February 2011 04:05 (fifteen years ago)

sorry, "Wisdom of the Few" -- "The King of Snakes" was '07

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 27 February 2011 04:06 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.metalfromfinland.com/

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

Im kinda surprised tuomas wasn't a young teenage metaller since metal is the most popular genre in finland.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

Tuomas - my teenage metalhead self, entirely surrounded and oppressed by dance music, desperately wants to change places with you. Can it be arranged?

m the g, Monday, 28 February 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

Amorphis was the first band I thought of. Their debut The Karelian Isthmus was the first Relapse album I ever bought. It's total Bolt Thrower worship, but very well done, especially considering the band were teenagers at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wnVwbJQr0k

The sophomore album Tales from the Thousand Lakes is where they brought in the moogs and the prog. I couldn't stomach it at first, but now I consider it a masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxG5pjI8wLk

Nate Carson, Monday, 28 February 2011 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

Im kinda surprised tuomas wasn't a young teenage metaller since metal is the most popular genre in finland.

It wasn't when I was a teen. Obviously a lot of kids listened to metal, but stuff like Eurodance and rap and techno were still more popular in the 90s. Metal (especially metal made in Finland) didn't become as prominent as it is until the 00s. Which gives me hope that it's mostly a fad, and that metal will soon become a subcultural thing again.

Tuomas, Monday, 28 February 2011 07:26 (fifteen years ago)

people be saying metal (and techno & rap) is just a fad since they began. None are going away anytime soon.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

Rep rep rep for Finnish black metal. Beherit, Horna, Behexen, Barathrum, Aanal Beehemoth, Archgoat, Oranssi Pazuzu. Tons of weird, twisted black metal from the land of saunas.

Brooker T Buckingham, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

And Sarcofagus is amazing, especially Envoy Of Death. It's like BOC gone kraut rock.

Brooker T Buckingham, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

Here's the Discordance's leaderboard for Finland...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

I liked Disgrace early on. Apparently they went "punk" at some point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_GxWkX8-aU

Aquarian Necromancer Octopus (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 3 March 2011 04:39 (fifteen years ago)

goddamn the behexen half of the split w/ horna is so good

re Satanic Warmaster: being genuinely sketched out by a guy calling himself Satanic Tyrant Werewolf is a weird, complex feeling.

CharlieS, Thursday, 3 March 2011 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

hey glenn no posting him videos!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 7 March 2011 19:07 (fifteen years ago)


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