"It's hard to imagine a more perfectly realised Wire artefact," says MOJO. Not sure if you Brits lend this mag any credibility. They seem to know a thing or two more than, say, Q Magazine at least, and are less inclined to blindly hype some new band than NME/Melody Maker used to.
I haven't heard it yet, but am curious to hear the thoughts from those who have.....
― Alex in NYC, Monday, 26 August 2002 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 26 August 2002 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)
It's nice, very nice cross between the loud and fast of yore with the electronic assistance of more recent days. It's actually a very nice combination and there's really not enough on the CD to let you get tired of it...BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM, and it's over. It's also a full band project, with all of the originals back in the fold, so it's definitely much better than the Gotobed-less stuff.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 26 August 2002 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Monday, 26 August 2002 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 26 August 2002 22:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle, Monday, 26 August 2002 23:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Miranda, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 00:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 00:55 (twenty-three years ago)
(Which reminds me that I need to get around to writing my 2nd review for 102 Beats This.)
― sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 01:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 01:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 01:48 (twenty-three years ago)
PS: KILLING JOKE BACK IN THE STUDIO AS WE SPEAK. COMMENCE SHIVERING WITH FEAR, KJ HATERS!
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 01:51 (twenty-three years ago)
Its something we all must do.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 05:48 (twenty-three years ago)
Awwwwww, yeah.
― J0hn Darn1elle, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 09:41 (twenty-three years ago)
#3 any good?
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)
A good look backwards; it's about time Wire started copying their eighties period.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)
!!!
― lukas, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)
The ten minute's of 23 Years Too Late are by far the best, but yeah, the whole thing is like a missing link between 154 and Ideal Copy, hanging closer to the latter.
― bendy, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)
yeah I liked it, been checking out a few tracks on our radio station copy. Still haven't heard the second one!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)
the whole thing is like a missing link between 154 and Ideal Copy, hanging closer to the latter.
OTM, couldn't have said it better myself, and I was trying to come up with an appropriate comparison!
R&B 3 is tremendous, this approach of recording a handful of tracks at a time is producing great results for the lads. Oh, and unlike the first two they say none of R&B 3 tracks will show up on "future recordings".
― Mr. Odd, Thursday, 20 December 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)
I've listened to it now. It is good. Not a bad song on it.
I still haven't heard the 1st 2 R&B EPs - I have Send on CD which is great and covers a lot of the same tracks but I dunno if the versions are any different.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 20 December 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)
They are the same versions.
The "redux" LP has all the songs in shorter versions.
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 December 2007 11:46 (eighteen years ago)
So 23 years puts us in the gap between 154 and Ideal Copy. I'm guessing that that's at least some of what "23 Years to Late" is referring to.
recording a handful of tracks at a time is producing great results for the lads.
Looking over their discography, I was amazed at how much of their output is on EPs. I'm a huge fan of 4-6 song, 20 minute bursts. I guess I miss album sides. But I also think it's the best way to present ambitious rock.
― bendy, Thursday, 20 December 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)
I'm guessing that that's at least some of what "23 Years to Late" is referring to.
I think you might well have got it OTM, etc, as they have done that sort of thing before.
(154 was the number of gigs they'd played up till then, 106 beats that = number of beats in the song, Former Airline = the song based around the chords B E and A, etc...)
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 December 2007 12:30 (eighteen years ago)
I don't get it. What does a 23 years have to do with the gap between 154 & Ideal Copy? I'm dumb.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 20 December 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)
Nothing
― Tom D., Thursday, 20 December 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)
23 years ago Wire were between those 2 albums?
― toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)
lol
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 December 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)
Anyway, as someone disappointed by Send, this is a welcome surprise. Especially "Our Time."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 December 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)
I didn't like "Send" much either
― Tom D., Thursday, 20 December 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)
2007-23=1984.
Could the lads be commenting on our fucked up society?
― kwhitehead, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)
ah!
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)
23 years since the release of "Whilst Climbing Thieves Vie For Our Attention", the intermittently fine album by P'o.
― Tom D., Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)
"23 Years (was Colin Newman's age when Wire released Chairs Missing, which ends with) Too Late"
― dad a, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)
Good skillz
― Tom D., Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)
Just listened to this on my way to the post office. I have to say that I barely see the comaprison to the band's 80's output. This has far more energy and relies less on the cloying "atmospherics" of those 80's records.
Gotobed shines, unlike on those 80's records. He does more w/a small kit than most drummers can muster on their standard sets. Keep in mind that at some point during the lackluster "Manscape" era Gotobed said eniugh and quit the band because they weren't using his skills enough. This is nothing like those reords.
"No Warning given" sounds like something from Colin's "Not To' or "A-Z' records and "Desert Diving" feastures some snakey keyboards that Colin used to great effect on his "Bastard" record.
Can't wait to see this stuff live.
― kwhitehead, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)
Where I hear 80s Wire is in the textures- lots of layered, heavily processed sounds. But yeah, the energy and clear vision are more like A-Z. Also, he Newman doesn't do that moany Depeche Mode style-singing that sinks much of the 80s stuff for me.
― bendy, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)
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Ow! You gooood!
― Mark G, Friday, 21 December 2007 07:59 (eighteen years ago)
Just ordered this, looking forward to it.
I liked Send, but they left some of the best EP tracks off. 'Raft Ants' is one of the best things they've done.
― S-, Friday, 21 December 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)
Also, he Newman doesn't do that moany Depeche Mode style-singing that sinks much of the 80s stuff for me.
Most of this kind of singing was by Graham Lewis, no?
I haven't heard A-Z in years, but you're right: this EP has more in common with that.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 21 December 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)
hmm, just made me double check on iTunes, 'cause I don't have those records, but Newman is doing it too on "Ahead" and such, though not as affectedly as the Lewis songs. Overall, it doesn't seem as offputting to me now as it did at the time, but I sure prefer the Wire 3.5 take on it. A-Z is really worth digging up- "Life on Deck" is one of my fav tracks in the Wire neighborhood.
― bendy, Friday, 21 December 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)
OTM
I really like the new Read & Burn.
― latebloomer, Friday, 21 December 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)
Read And Burn 03 is the best non-trilogy Wire thing, by such a massive distance, that I've heard - <333333333333
― kate bush fan (acoleuthic), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
It's really, really good. But have you heard the "Vien" EP? Completely forgotten piece of the puzzle.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:29 (fifteen years ago)
'03 disappointed me badly, especially after listening to the first R&B ep.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:30 (fifteen years ago)
Wire always seem to defy expectations. You gotta be prepared for the unexpected and follow them or not. Heck, I skipped the WIR album when it came out but stripped of expectations it's about half great and half not so much.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 22 January 2011 02:07 (fifteen years ago)
03
on repeat
foreverrrrrrrrrrr
― acoleuthic, Friday, 4 March 2011 04:25 (fifteen years ago)
sonic paramedics weep
― nakhchivan, Friday, 4 March 2011 04:27 (fifteen years ago)
there's no other way this 28-page project is gonna get done. btw 'desert driving' is sufficiently anthemic to leave me mindlessly punching the air as one might be expected to herald a BDI banger
― acoleuthic, Friday, 4 March 2011 04:44 (fifteen years ago)
*diving, even
cyberpunk is generally ill-served by music. 'send' and its surrounding eps are the glorious exception. refute, amend, etc
― imago, Thursday, 31 January 2013 15:19 (thirteen years ago)
I prefer the Read & Burn EPs as separate entities, they really work as a short, sharp glorious racket. I've resisted buying "Send Ultimate" for that reason.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 31 January 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)
I had that "Send" LP, shortened versions of most of the songs.
― Mark G, Thursday, 31 January 2013 15:52 (thirteen years ago)
The new Wire album is ace by the way...
― Doran, Thursday, 31 January 2013 16:53 (thirteen years ago)
Oh such a tease! It's two more months until the release...
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 31 January 2013 16:55 (thirteen years ago)